Will the police ever learn!

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Well, there you go...joint statement between club and Police regarding Millwall game...

 

 

The following statement is made after consultation with Hampshire Police, The Safety Officer and Safety Management Team at Southampton Football Club.

 

"....... to have held supporters back without good cause would have meant impeding those supporter’s human rights. Having carefully considered the situation, taking into account there was no violence prior to the match, nor intelligence to suggest any pre planned disorder after; supporters were released on the conclusion of the fixture"

 

Millwall categorised "medium risk"...guffaw.

 

Without good cause? Carefully considered the situation?

 

Were there actually enough officers on duty to effect a better operation than that which we witnessed?

 

Yeah you'd never have thought Millwall might have kicked off would you, they're not really known for it and didn't give any hints with their behaviour during the game......

 

After all, it was only some netting, it's not as if their fans really wanted a row with the Northam now.... was it?

 

I wonder if they considered the 'human rights' of the families caught up in the incidents by knowingly letting the moody Millwall crowd out at the same time last week?

 

Well, those 'moody, but loveable, Millwall scallywags' obviously have more 'human rights' than those innocents caught up in their 'after match chat' !

 

I would think there were very few inside St Marys last Saturday that thought those nawty Londoners would walk quietly home...even if they hadn't been bubbling away for the past hour and half.

 

Yup, our beloved O.B. certainly felt there'd be no trouble. Certainly not pre-planned! Oh there might... just might.. be a flare up but those 'pwoppa nawty lads' can take having a bit of banter without resorting to violence.... can't they?

 

What's the bet after all this fuss, the next time the 'north' car park is closed, people will moan and complain about it, like they usually do.

 

Sadly, some will because they will forget this and anyway, their tea is going cold on the table so they'll not want to walk around!

 

Finally, as UmPahars says, the Police will learn from this. After all we only have West Ham, Brum, Bristol city, Skates, Cardiff, Boro, Forest and Leicester (among others) to come but none of them are as 'nawty' as our East London scallywags!

[Sour Mash]

Well, there you go...joint statement between club and Police regarding Millwall game...

 

 

The following statement is made after consultation with Hampshire Police, The Safety Officer and Safety Management Team at Southampton Football Club.

 

"The last time Southampton and Millwall met at St Mary’s was on 08 August 2009. A total of 2,242 Millwall fans attended the fixture, which ended in a 1 – 1 draw, and there was no disorder before, during or after the fixture.

 

In advance of this season’s match, Southampton Football Club and Hampshire Police assessed the fixture in keeping with normal practice, and the match was categorised as medium risk.

 

There were no reported incidents of disorder in the City before the game and both sets of supporters made their way to St Mary’s Stadium monitored by the Police and the City CCTV. However, during the game there were 7 ejections from the ground (1 home supporter and 6 away supporters for various breaches of ground regulations)

 

When Southampton scored on 18 minutes the temporary netting – introduced as an additional measure on the Millwall side of the permanent Northam segregation netting – was breached by a surge of volatile Millwall fans. At no time was the permanent segregation netting breached and Southampton Football Club are more than happy with the current segregation netting that is in place, which is similar to those in use at many if not most other stadiums in the country.

 

There was no intelligence suggesting that there would be any violence after the match and to have held supporters back without good cause would have meant impeding those supporter’s human rights. Having carefully considered the situation, taking into account there was no violence prior to the match, nor intelligence to suggest any pre planned disorder after; supporters were released on the conclusion of the fixture.

 

A closure of the stadium north car park closure was discussed; however, as the Police Cordon Trailers were not part of the pre match planning they were not available on the day. This will be reviewed for future fixtures and will be in place for any further visit from Millwall. The closure of the north car park often causes issues with home supporters, however, safety is of course paramount and if it is deemed necessary in future then it will be enforced.

 

Three Millwall supporters were arrested in the north car park post match and another in the City later that evening. A Police enquiry is ongoing and Southampton Football Club will assist Hampshire Police with evidence to follow up this incident with further arrests that we hope will lead to Football Banning Orders."

 

 

Millwall categorised "medium risk"...guffaw.

 

Where was this statement published? Can't find it in any of the obvious places, Echo, Official Site etc.

[dune]

That statement defies belief. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that when clubs like Millwall or Cardiff travel there's a fair chance of trouble. As for the 'human rights'excuse it is just that - an excuse. When some Millwall fans tried to cross the netting it was bloody obvious that after the game the atmosphere wouldn't be cordial. I can see it, everyone else could see it, the only people who supposedly couldn't see it were the police.

[StDunko]

My human rights have been impeded every time I've been to the New Den, so I'm confused as to why we can't treat their fans in the same manner.

[explorer saint]

Christ no apology from the club or police what a dsigrace, really hope their kids and family dont caught up in something soon, must all be labour human rights supporters I give up and want to emigtae but I will have a speckled hen first

[Gemmel]

And there was me thinking it was a Cat "C' game until the middle of the week the game was played..... Silly old me

 

I'm sure hampshire police and SFC can confirm it was never a Cat C game....ever ever

[dune]

Christ no apology from the club or police what a dsigrace, really hope their kids and family dont caught up in something soon, must all be labour human rights supporters I give up and want to emigtae but I will have a speckled hen first

 

This.

[StDunko]

Christ no apology from the club or police what a dsigrace, really hope their kids and family dont caught up in something soon, must all be labour human rights supporters I give up and want to emigtae but I will have a speckled hen first

 

Wow this Con-dem gov must be very weak indeed if the opposition party are in control of the Police and Southampton Football club!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so disgusted by this I'm going to write to the Daily Mail about it.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Christ no apology from the club or police what a dsigrace, really hope their kids and family dont caught up in something soon, must all be labour human rights supporters I give up and want to emigtae but I will have a speckled hen first

 

Looks like you had a few before posting this, do you not spell check?

 

Nice troll style to draw certain others though!

 

Would it be helpful if we started a collection for those who want to emigrate? You know, one way tickets and all that?

[The Majestic Channon]

This.

 

Yes of course, obviously it's the labour party that let millwall out at the same time as saints

Get off the net and sample real life for once

Give me strength

[Prince Jazzbo]

Yes of course, obviously it's the labour party that let millwall out at the same time as saints

Get off the net and sample real life for once

Give me strength

 

Apparently there was a motion at last years Labour Party Conference on the issue of whether Millwall fans should be kept in after their game with Southampton.

[dune]

Yes of course, obviously it's the labour party

 

This.

[Sour Mash]

Well, there you go...joint statement between club and Police regarding Millwall game...

 

 

The following statement is made after consultation with Hampshire Police, The Safety Officer and Safety Management Team at Southampton Football Club.

 

"The last time Southampton and Millwall met at St Mary’s was on 08 August 2009. A total of 2,242 Millwall fans attended the fixture, which ended in a 1 – 1 draw, and there was no disorder before, during or after the fixture.

 

In advance of this season’s match, Southampton Football Club and Hampshire Police assessed the fixture in keeping with normal practice, and the match was categorised as medium risk.

 

There were no reported incidents of disorder in the City before the game and both sets of supporters made their way to St Mary’s Stadium monitored by the Police and the City CCTV. However, during the game there were 7 ejections from the ground (1 home supporter and 6 away supporters for various breaches of ground regulations)

 

When Southampton scored on 18 minutes the temporary netting – introduced as an additional measure on the Millwall side of the permanent Northam segregation netting – was breached by a surge of volatile Millwall fans. At no time was the permanent segregation netting breached and Southampton Football Club are more than happy with the current segregation netting that is in place, which is similar to those in use at many if not most other stadiums in the country.

 

There was no intelligence suggesting that there would be any violence after the match and to have held supporters back without good cause would have meant impeding those supporter’s human rights. Having carefully considered the situation, taking into account there was no violence prior to the match, nor intelligence to suggest any pre planned disorder after; supporters were released on the conclusion of the fixture.

 

A closure of the stadium north car park closure was discussed; however, as the Police Cordon Trailers were not part of the pre match planning they were not available on the day. This will be reviewed for future fixtures and will be in place for any further visit from Millwall. The closure of the north car park often causes issues with home supporters, however, safety is of course paramount and if it is deemed necessary in future then it will be enforced.

 

Three Millwall supporters were arrested in the north car park post match and another in the City later that evening. A Police enquiry is ongoing and Southampton Football Club will assist Hampshire Police with evidence to follow up this incident with further arrests that we hope will lead to Football Banning Orders."

 

 

Millwall categorised "medium risk"...guffaw.

 

Still can't find where this statement was published/actually came from - link anyone?

[Turkish]

The bit about Human Rights is laughable. How come this only applies at SFC and when the police are trying to justify f*cking up like they did last saturday and against Pompey?

 

The statement also lies, there was trouble after the game in 2009. I was even discussing this with a Millwall mate of mine who i met for a pint before the game last week.

 

No intelleigence to suggest trouble after the match?? I take it they missed Millwall trying to get through the netting then!!

 

Im sure there will be plent of back slapping and self contratulations by them when they give a few more bans out to fall guys as there always is. Probably a big article in the echo with a grand statement about this sort of behaviour not being tolerated.

 

Clueless.

[Prince Jazzbo]

Still can't find where this statement was published/actually came from - link anyone?

 

It was on page 2 of yesterdays Echo.

[Daren W]

My over-riding memory of the Millwall game was the look of fear on the police officers faces as they "co-ordinated" the fans heading up Britannia rd. They had their batons drawn shouting at fans to keep back. The fans being about a hundred or so ordinary fans with families, an old lady and me and a mate. Totally over the top as to be honest we weren't "surging" up the road we just wanted to go back to the pub.

The police here just don't seem to have any experience on how to deal with these sort of crowds/situations. One Millwall fan was on the ground, his leg was bloodied (I'm assuming it a dog bite) and he was shouting at the police to let him stand up as he had done nothing and to be fair I saw no evidence he actually had. The impression I had was that the police were genuinely spooked by the whole thing and just don't know what to do.