Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 West Ham & Southampton in for Becks! http://www.everton.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=251505 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 I don't see any reason for Everton to let him go, he did very well for them last year. Would love to have him here though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Can't see him coming here. He did alright in the Premiership last season and doubt he would want to drop a league and then not even be guaranteed a starting place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Also, considering Kenwright has come out and said the banks won't let them sign any players, I doubt he'll be letting anyone go - who exactly are they gonna play up front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Also, considering Kenwright has come out and said the banks won't let them sign any players, I doubt he'll be letting anyone go - who exactly are they gonna play up front? Imagine they'll be selling him to raise some funds so they can bring someone else in. They got him on a free, so whatever they sell him for is 100% profit. £3m would be a bargain for him. I'd say he's worth more than Maynard and Jay Rod and they're both being rumoured to be fetching around £6m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 I think he'd do a good job here, but I don't see him as being the team player that NA & NC seem to be going for. I seem to recall he caused a stink in Leeds promotion run in league-1. Didn't he have a massive bust up when subbed against us at Elland road??. Also had a couple of bust ups with Moyes, I don't see him fitting in here at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 I don’t think this will happen, purely because I don’t think he has the kind of character that would fit in with the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbojones10 Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 he is a good player and would score plenty of goals, but hes very moody and arrogant bloke. i can imagine him not going down well with everyone in dressing room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Imagine they'll be selling him to raise some funds so they can bring someone else in. They got him on a free, so whatever they sell him for is 100% profit. £3m would be a bargain for him. I'd say he's worth more than Maynard and Jay Rod and they're both being rumoured to be fetching around £6m. He's 27, Jay Rod is 22 I think and Matynard is 24 I think? Not denying he's scored a couple of prem goals but I'd hardly say he's better value for money and his wages would doubtless be much higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Didn't he divide the Leeds fans with his attitude, a bit of a Puncheon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Far too disruptive an influence. IMO we need a CB & a winger who can play up front, like de Ridder/Jayrod. It would be silly to disrupt a confident winning team with a massive ego. The players we have and are probably looking at are flexible and can play a number of different formations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 As others have said, he's got attitude problems so wouldn't be keen. It seems the dressing room spirit counts for a lot of our success so Beckford does not fit into that. (Strange to be in a possition to not want a player of his quality) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 I remember when we played Leeds two seasons back people saying they weren't very impressed with him. I'm sure time in the PL has made him a better player but back then opinion was he was a light weight who went down very easily and didn't cope well with physical stuff. On top of that as others have pointed out he is an arrogant bastard who seems to cause trouble not the sort we want in our happy little team I'd of thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 West Ham & Southampton in for Becks! http://www.everton.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=251505 Hope not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Anybody coming in would have to fit around the existing system. No moody prima donnas thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 We're only linked because agents know we want a striker, so will want to hike up his price. We probably aren't even interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Think he's overrated - got pace but isn't clinical or skillful enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversaint Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 He's crap. Can't run, lazy, poor movement. Would rather have Barnard. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 I think he'd do a good job here, but I don't see him as being the team player that NA & NC seem to be going for. I seem to recall he caused a stink in Leeds promotion run in league-1. Didn't he have a massive bust up when subbed against us at Elland road??. Also had a couple of bust ups with Moyes, I don't see him fitting in here at the moment. He was dropped for a while and most Leeds fans were just glad to get rid by the end. According to the comment below that article, he had a bust up with Moyes as well. Can't see him as being the kind of player we're after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 I don’t think this will happen, purely because I don’t think he has the kind of character that would fit in with the squad. Agree with this. Can't see NC and Nige wanting another Puncheon type character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Speaking as a top of the league man I say no way, but just imagine if we had lost 1 drawen 2, probably be saying sign him up. IMO seems not our type as stated above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Think the attitude thing is overstated. Adkins had Beckford at Scunny, knows him first hand and, if he we are seriously in for him, obviously believes he can manage his attuitude. Given the importance Adkins places on team spirit, he would not have overlooked the risks of a disruptive personality. Whether he's a good enough footballer as opposed to just a decent poacher is another question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Better option than maynard IMO, would be a great signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Wasn't he given a rather torrid time by saints fans last time played against us - seemed to remember he had a mega moody on and got subbed much to our amusement. Hopefully that will deter him!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 18 August, 2011 I think recent speculation linking us to 6m+ bids has distorted the minds of some? Beckford is a great player - even proven at premiership level! He would be a fantastic addition to any championship side. Some Saints fans are maybe becoming a little unrealistic? Speculation is one thing; reality still shows we have signed only Fox, Cork and De Ridder! Danger is that with all the speculation/links any signing may now be a little underwhelming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 I think recent speculation linking us to 6m+ bids has distorted the minds of some? Beckford is a great player - even proven at premiership level! He would be a fantastic addition to any championship side. Some Saints fans are maybe becoming a little unrealistic? Speculation is one thing; reality still shows we have signed only Fox, Cork and De Ridder!Danger is that with all the speculation/links any signing may now be a little underwhelming? you say that like it's a bad thing ...... If only we could be more like Leicester........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEADAMS Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Hope not Fantastic though to listen to us being linked again to so many players. Hasn't felt like this for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 You can't have too many strikers. He'd be a great signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 No thanks, he's a proper ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 You can't have too many strikers. He'd be a great signing. Still waiting for Michael Owen to make up his mind before we buy anybody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Agree with this. Can't see NC and Nige wanting another Puncheon type character. Adkins worked with him an Sc/nthorpe so if we sign him he'll do so knowing he can manage him. Look at Stan Collymore - an utter c/nt but Barry Fry could manage him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Adkins worked with him an Sc/nthorpe so if we sign him he'll do so knowing he can manage him. Look at Stan Collymore - an utter c/nt but Barry Fry could manage him. Going out of one's way to pander to an individuals requirements to prevent a moody coming on, isn't really in the best interests of the whole squad though is it? anyway I would imagine his wage requirements would put him way off our radar, unless he is prepared to take a huge pay cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 He's crap. Can't run, lazy, poor movement. Would rather have Barnard. Next. Glad not everyone rates him! I think he is massively overated too, guess he could still do a job for us in the Championship, but too disruptive an influence from my opinion, judging by previous occurances. He is one of those that people that I always steer clear in fantasy football competitions coz I just don't rate him, and I wonder why others buy him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Going out of one's way to pander to an individuals requirements to prevent a moody coming on, isn't really in the best interests of the whole squad though is it? anyway I would imagine his wage requirements would put him way off our radar, unless he is prepared to take a huge pay cut. The behaviour of a player is a reflection of a manager. A good manager can manage 'difficult' but talented players. It's a great opportunity if you're good enough to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 He is over-rated in my opinion.... but he does score goals, even at Premiership level. That cannot be denied. If Adkins wants him, that's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 The behaviour of a player is a reflection of a manager. A good manager can manage 'difficult' but talented players. It's a great opportunity if you're good enough to do this. So where does that leave us Re Nigel and Puncheon then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Would rather have maynard. He's younger, more skillful and much better attitude it would seem. That said, I don't think either will come here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Santa Cruz says he wouldnt mind a loan move to the championship!!!!! Not sure Rickie and Santa Cruz would work up front. He definitely isn't the type of striker we're after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyg1950 Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14570624.stm " This summer, Everton rejected an offer of £10m from Arsenal for defender Phil Jagielka and this week turned down a £3m-bid from Leicester for striker Jermaine Beckford. The only transfer activity the cub have undertaken during this transfer window has been to re-sign teenage defender Eric Dier on a season-long loan from Sporting Lisbon." How the other half live ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 No thanks. Overrated and has attitude problems, wouldn't fit in our 'young, hungry, group of professionals'. J Rod and Maynard would be better acquisitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Think the main issue here would be that Beckford wouldnt want to come, rather than would we want him (I'm sure NA would after working with him at Scunny). Beckford is a player who has worked himself up from non-league to PL - which deserves great credit - and he is not likely to give PL football up after just one season, having battled so hard to get there, particularly as he did pretty well last year and with Everton's strikers, or lack of them, he will surely be involved plenty this year too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssaints Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Good player but think he could be disruptive on the team spirit. I would rather have players who are happy to come in like Fox and de Ridder and earn there places. I don't think Beckford would be happy starting on the bench to prove his worth. I think the players we had last year haven't done anything wrong and have been excellent so we have to be careful about who we buy to make sure they are the right fit. In Nigel and Nicola I trust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Wasn't he given a rather torrid time by saints fans last time played against us - seemed to remember he had a mega moody on and got subbed much to our amusement. Hopefully that will deter him!! Yep, ferking hilarious! FWIW I wouldn't want him here because of his attitude, although he is undoubtedly a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 in Nigel i trust, if he brings him here then it will be for the right reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Awful attitude,end of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 in Nigel i trust, if he brings him here then it will be for the right reasons Nice to be able to say that and mean it! In the recent past it has seemed more like a declaration of support than a real belief. Nigel has earnt our trust and I am happy to leave the team development entirely to him and Cortese and concentrate on being a fan of the team. Football is back and it feels good!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 I'm beginning to wonder if we are looking at the wrong sort of striker all together - assuming the rumours have any basis in truth. We have Connolly, Barnard and at a pinch Guly and De Ridder that can play alongside Lambert. What we don't have really is an understudy for Lambert. Shouldn't we be looking less at mobile goalscorers, and more at a big target man, good in the air etc, in case Ricky gets injured, or to give him competition anyway? Virtually every other position in the team has 2 players at least competing for it (about 5 for left back!!!). Who is competing with Ricky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Saint Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 The behaviour of a player is a reflection of a manager. A good manager can manage 'difficult' but talented players. It's a great opportunity if you're good enough to do this. Not at all. Some players - like Puncheon for example - are just arsey. They have no sense of their own limitations or waht it means to work in a team. If Everton really want to get rid of Beckford (and actually I rather doubt that) it suggests even Moyes a great manger of people has had enough of him. Not for us I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 I'm sorry - but as someone else mentioned above, he was rubbish when we played Leeds a couple of years ago. From what I have seen of him (especially in that match at Eland Road), he is just a goal-hanger. While that may get him a fair few goals, he misses shed-loads of opportunities too. That was the opinion of Leeds fans I spoke to at the time too. Nigel's approach seems to be to encourage players to work for the team and I don't think goal-hanging really fits with that system. Lambert, Connolly and Barnard are all better strikers IMO. We need to be looking at players who are either better or have the potential to be better strikers in the next couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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