niceandfriendly Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Once again you seem to be confusing your fantasy computer game world with real life. Hate to defend MLG but I'm pretty sure he's spot on with what he said. Why would another club offer more once they know 7mil is acceptable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Looked at the YouTube video posted on this thread and he looks the business with good composure. Looked at his stats 15 goals in 36 starts in Championship is decent Shots on target 52 so converts 1 in 3 thereabouts meaning 2 out of 3 saved. Shots off target 61. Lambert, Lallana, Sharp and Connelly had a beter on target than off so his accuracy and composure not so good as the video demonstates. Only 3 assists suggests his mind set it selfish. Not a big problem for an out and out striker but needs to be addressed. May be many of those 61 off target could be converted to goals by team mates (and credit more assists to him) That can be addressed in training/coaching. Overall, young hungry English qualified striker at £7m with add ons. I can see why Adkins wants him. Gets my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Just another update. We need to get this wrapped up ASAP with other clubs such as Newcastle, Everton etc interested. Also interesting Re: Paul Lambert being a keen admirer of Jay and whether he'll bid if he becomes new Villa boss. http://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/football/burnley-fc/rodriguez-set-for-southampton-talks-1-4601453 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Just another update. We need to get this wrapped up ASAP with other clubs such as Newcastle, Everton etc interested. Also interesting Re: Paul Lambert being a keen admirer of Jay and whether he'll bid if he becomes new Villa boss. http://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/football/burnley-fc/rodriguez-set-for-southampton-talks-1-4601453 TBH if his agent knows those clubs are interested he surely has a duty to his client to find out what they are offering. I Imagine if there is genuine interest from other teams Jrod will want to know what they're offering which means he is unlikely to wrap it up with us quickly if there are offers on the table no doubt Newcastle or everton would look attractive to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 If he has a choice of us or Everton he goes to Everton. Villa won't have the cash to buy him unless they off load 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrimd Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Everton dont have £7mill. Newcastle wont spend £7mill on an unproven Championship striker when they have a scouting network that uncovers Cisse at just £2mill more. Villa need to sort out their manager before spunking that sort of cash. Personally, I think we are the only ones prepared to pay the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 It's all about opinions isn't it, but mine is that JRod is head and shoulders above Hooper. My Burnley supporting mate says he's genuine class and the best player he's seen in a Burnley shirt for 20 years - although admittedly they've been sh1t for much of that time . My only fear about the deal is that he's a real home boy and it may be that he'd much rather stay in the north-west and if someone else comes in he'd take it. But if that is the case, then it's probably better we don't sign him in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Everton dont have £7mill. Newcastle wont spend £7mill on an unproven Championship striker when they have a scouting network that uncovers Cisse at just £2mill more. Villa need to sort out their manager before spunking that sort of cash. Personally, I think we are the only ones prepared to pay the money. keep hearing this the same was said in january, yet they sign jelevic. the same was said about west ham last summer...then look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Hate to defend MLG but I'm pretty sure he's spot on with what he said. Why would another club offer more once they know 7mil is acceptable? Simply to OUTBID us Simples Burnley aren't going to turn an extra £1M or £2M down in a bidding war are they The bottom line is, how badly do the purchasing club actually WANT the player ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Simply to OUTBID us Simples Burnley aren't going to turn an extra £1M or £2M down in a bidding war are they The bottom line is, how badly do the purchasing club actually WANT the player ? they have already accepted an offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 they have already accepted an offer. OK, but that does not mean he IS coming to us does it If the player indicates he does not want to come to us, then Burnley can quite easily also accept another offer from another Club, at a higher price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 OK, but that does not mean he IS coming to us does it If the player indicates he does not want to come to us, then Burnley can quite easily also accept another offer from another Club, at a higher price but that is the point. why on earth is another club going to offer £8m when £7m is clearly enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrimd Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 keep hearing this the same was said in january, yet they sign jelevic. the same was said about west ham last summer...then look Everton generally only bring players in after sending players out. Jelavic was spending Arteta money. I would be amazed if they spent this sort of money, this early in the window. But of course I may be wrong! As for West Ham, every sane person expected them to cut their cloth, they just chose to do things the Pompey way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Everton generally only bring players in after sending players out. Jelavic was spending Arteta money. I would be amazed if they spent this sort of money, this early in the window. But of course I may be wrong! As for West Ham, every sane person expected them to cut their cloth, they just chose to do things the Pompey way. be funny if wet ham go back down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stattmeister Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Everton generally only bring players in after sending players out. Jelavic was spending Arteta money. I would be amazed if they spent this sort of money, this early in the window. But of course I may be wrong! As for West Ham, every sane person expected them to cut their cloth, they just chose to do things the Pompey way. And looking at their system, you could argue they have their striker now in Jelavic and more pressing is to secure Steven Pienaar's service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 For those that think another club will outbid us for the transfer fee, they are just wrong. All clubs now know the acceptable bid. If others want JR they can outbid us on personal terms, or throw JR an extra million as a signing on fee or whatever, but transfer fee won't go up. The only exception that would muddy the waters is if there was a player exchange in the deal as in; Everton offer 6 mill + a n another (And then we could all argue about how much a n other was actually worth. Just seeing his initials as JR like that, if we do get him, I assume our resident songsters could apply the right lyrics to the theme tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Isn't an either/or. Think players you need the likes of a J-Rod and Lambert to get the best out of pacier players i..e to hold the ball up and let runners break beyond them. Even better if your target man can pick a pass. Reading who have bags of pace were much more dangerous when Roberts gave them that option. I've suggested Lambert could play as a false nine already on this thread. I'd rather our link man was also able to get into the box (see the Rooney discussion), but yes, it's perfectly feasible that we could do that. We'd need to sign some pacy wide players though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Have you watched many Premiership games this season?? The standard of football for half the division is no different to that at the top of the Championship. The margins between the quality of the players is wafer thin until you get to the real world class players - then everyone struggles! Players like Nathan Dyer and Delap are doing well in the Premiership but weren't rated here, for example... If you're asking us how we will attack against Vidic and John Terry, the answer is with the same difficulty as Tevez, Dzeko, Rooney and Ageuro, and Messi... If you're saying that Lambert (and our general play) are not quick enought to outwit Fulham, Villa, Swansea, Sunderland, QPR, West Ham, Reading and Norwich, are you sure? You talk about 'the Premiership' as a standard. But it isn't is it? West Brom, for example, are they 'Premiership standard'. Or Wigan? I'll be surprised if anyone's watched a Premiership football match since 2007, never mind this season. The point is that overall football is a meritocracy, the better players play for the teams higher up the leagues. We are stepping up a league, and need to be confident that we are able to compete. I'm saying nothing about "outwitting", I'm talking about the practicalities of moving the ball more quickly and having strikers in goalscoring positions as well as linking play, and of maximising opportunities to score. If you have a player who can create his own openings and is fast enough to set up play and get to a loose ball in the box a matter of seconds later, you have a bigger threat than someone who can only do one or two of those things. It's perfectly possible that what we have is good enough, and I'd like to think that our existing players are capable of improving themselves further, but given the massive strides they had to make from League One to challenge for the Championship, are the ones who we had in League One going to be able to find that bit more again to threaten in the Prem ? And I assure you I haven't once spoken about the "Premiership" in this thread other than to point out that it doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_TOAST Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 when is he going to hurry up and sign ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Burnley fans will be gutted. They love him. Local lad and loyal as hell to Burnley. Oh the power of the Premiership! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Burnley fans will be gutted. They love him. Local lad and loyal as hell to Burnley. Oh the power of the Premiership! Must... resist... temptation... Obvious... wind up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Must... resist... temptation... Obvious... wind up... Don't knock it. Otherwise we won't be able to use that old chestnut about all the ships leaving Portsmouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd_barrett_saint Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Must... resist... temptation... Obvious... wind up... Man I'm really looking forward to many loooong seasons of Saints in Premiership action. I bet you are too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 when is he going to hurry up and sign ffs. He is away on holiday so even if can can agree personal terms from afar, he won't sign until he has his medical, so it oculd be a week or so yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 "Premiership. We're having a laugh." Need to get the Northam singing that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfc Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 This has probably been posted a few times already but it's worth watching twice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O194V1nvTCY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 He is as interesting to listen to as Shearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 This has probably been posted a few times already but it's worth watching twice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O194V1nvTCY If we are posting repeat videos, I prefer this one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 [h=2][/h] Originally Posted by merrimd Everton dont have £7mill. Newcastle wont spend £7mill on an unproven Championship striker when they have a scouting network that uncovers Cisse at just £2mill more. Villa need to sort out their manager before spunking that sort of cash. Personally, I think we are the only ones prepared to pay the money. keep hearing this the same was said in january, yet they sign jelevic. the same was said about west ham last summer...then look Everton really are in the financial straight jacket. You only had to took at the manoeuvres to get Jelevic in. Players having to be sold and the wage bill restructered by moves. But fair play to Moyes and Kenwright, they have done an amazing job. If it was not because Jelevic was owned by Rangers I doubt that deal would have been done. Most buys are done with a series of instalments that only end up as hard cash years down the line, so we my have a big edge here. A lot of these clubs like Everton and West Ham would need to create moves and loans to fit the purchase into their operating plans, not that easy. Then you have to ask if they will be prepared to make the effort for what would be viewed as a significant risk. Looking at Newcastle, Rodriques looks highly over priced for what they have managed in the market so far. Then someone like Lambert who if installed at Villa, would he want to take that sort of risk? If Burnley want the cash up front, I doubt they will get many other takers and it will then come down to the player. From the players perspective I believe we have a good chance of signing J Rod as I don't believe anyone will offer him a guaranteed start. Saints won't offer a nailed on start, but from the long term interest and known desire we have for the player, he's going to be pretty certain of a more than fair shake. Our style of football will definitely attract him and I am sure he has had a few tweets from friends in the team to get on the bus. I still feel J Rod is a risk and how he will fit into the first team, unless there is an even more high profile striker to come. Feel confident we will get him as everything looks like it is just being left for the final medical when he comes down. Looking at the video I am still wondering about who will lead the line, as a lot of J Rod involves breaking through from midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Can we stop calling him J Rod? It just sounds so lame. Are we all 12 year old Americans on here now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Can we stop calling him J Rod? It just sounds so lame. Are we all 12 year old Americans on here now? Oh the ironing. Still, JRod isn't half as bad as 'Chambo'. Personally I'd have given him to Arsenal free just so I didn't have to read that pseudonym on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Can we stop calling him J Rod? It just sounds so lame. Are we all 12 year old Americans on here now? Was just about to make the same point. Sounds ridiculous. Same goes for using player's and manager's first names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Without knowing who we are likely to sign, I would like to see how Rodriguez up front with Sharp, Lee wide on the right, with Lambert as an attacking midfielder with a strong holder behind would work out. I like Tom Ince with his pace/bite and ability to switch sides and would like him out right but that is a longshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 when is he going to hurry up and sign ffs. He is away in Mexico at the moment so don't expect to hear anything more on his decision until next week when he is due to return back to England and discuss terms apparently. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/9733188.Saints_wait_for_J_Rod_to_jet_in/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 He is away in Mexico at the moment so don't expect to hear anything more on his decision until next week when he is due to return back to England and discuss terms apparently. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/9733188.Saints_wait_for_J_Rod_to_jet_in/ The terms will be sorted out whilst Rodriguez is on holiday by his agent back in England, all Rodriguez will have to do is sign the paperwork and have a medical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 The terms will be sorted out whilst Rodriguez is on holiday by his agent back in England, all Rodriguez will have to do is sign the paperwork and have a medical. Yeah I realise that is possible but he can't officially put pen to paper until next week when he returns back to blighty can he? Or can he fax it in? Either way I assume he will probably want a face to face meeting with Adkins and Cortese before he signs to see if he feels he can work with them. Also to see if he gets a good vibe for the place and the club. I can imagine leaving Burnley will be tough if he is a local lad and has supported them all his life too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Can we stop calling him J Rod? It just sounds so lame. Are we all 12 year old Americans on here now? yeah dude, I agree, high 5, this is soooooo lame! We are not all like,......12, duuuuuh. Can we just like call this dude by his 2nd name, I mean come on man, we are not American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Yeah I realise that is possible but he can't officially put pen to paper until next week when he returns back to blighty can he? Or can he fax it in? He needs to pass a medical before he signs anything, so the paperwork can wait until he is back in the country for the medical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Can we stop calling him J Rod? It just sounds so lame. Are we all 12 year old Americans on here now? I Agree, it's rubbish we should be using his proper name. Let's call him Jay Rod from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Hate to defend MLG but I'm pretty sure he's spot on with what he said. Why would another club offer more once they know 7mil is acceptable? Once its common knowledge that a player is available it becomes an auction, at least partly. The selling club may find a bid of 7m acceptable, does that mean they wouldnt rather get 8m? Or more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 I met the mother of my child in Cancun. I also got put in jail for the night for urinating up a palm tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 And looking at their system, you could argue they have their striker now in Jelavic and more pressing is to secure Steven Pienaar's service. Totally agree. They can't afford JR & SP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Once its common knowledge that a player is available it becomes an auction, at least partly. The selling club may find a bid of 7m acceptable, does that mean they wouldnt rather get 8m? Or more? It becomes an auction with the clubs upping the ante on what they offer the player in terms of wages, signing on bonus etc etc. Not by continually upping the purchase price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 totally agree. They can't afford jr & sp. full names please!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 I met the mother of my child in Cancun. Happy coincidence or had you planned to meet her there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 when is he going to hurry up and sign ffs. he's still on holiday - in Mexico (apparantly), but he's in the driving seat as Burnley are willing to sell, but he needs to convince himself...never mind, first step inside SMS and a Nigel Adkins' smile should do the trick... Hi Jay, welcome to this wonderful football club, here's your ticket ..for the bus ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 According to Saintswebs Paul Chuckle, JR is in the building! Excited! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 Can we stop calling him J Rod? It just sounds so lame. Are we all 12 year old Americans on here now? I haven't, yet. Although I am considering doing this more often from now on. Can't wait to see A Lal in the P Lea, and hope we can tempt G Sig away from S Cit now B Rod has gone to L Foo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 He needs to pass a medical before he signs anything, so the paperwork can wait until he is back in the country for the medical. oh yeah I forgot about the medical. Probably the most important part of the transfer system too, Doh! For 7 million they don't want a sick note just warming the bench from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 31 May, 2012 Share Posted 31 May, 2012 According to Saintswebs Paul Chuckle, JR is in the building! Excited! Less reliable source than Stevo, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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