benjii Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Laughably, some Saints fans seem to think it wasn't a filthy, violent challenge and shouldn't have been a red and that we would have a decent chance of succesfully appealing it! Can we have a poll please mods to see just how cycloptic some SFC fans are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 if a barnsley player did it, we would be cowing for a red (if one had not been given) it was clearly a dirty challenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Went for the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 14 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Went for the balls Corrected it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Does that mean they use bicycles for glasses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Corrected it for you. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Red card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromdayone Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Went for, got the ball, studs up, followed through, had time to pull out of connecting with player, chose not to...... Red card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wedge Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Went for, got the ball, studs up, followed through, had time to pull out of connecting with player, chose not to...... Red card. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelkel31 Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 if you look at the movement of chaplows leg i think he made a decision that he could get away with it, obviously couldnt and right to be red carded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 He made contact with the ball and it went clear - but looks to me as though he left his foot in for the player to run into!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Stonewall red card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints67 Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Watched it several times on SSN and looks like he went for a mid air stamp on the player. deserved the red and now will be banned for 3 games (i believe). Think the lad made a big mistake and hopefully he'll learn from it. I can't believe he was so dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Castration by studs attempt...good effort but definitely red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 straight red, no arguments. Really poor from Chappers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 14 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 14 August, 2011 I remember watching him in a televised cup match playing for Preston (think fatty Parkin scored some goals, against Liverpool?) and he was one of the dirtiest players I had seen. This was after his initial loan spell with us and I don't remember him being that dirty then. It's almost as though he felt the need to develop a "niche" as a hard-nut. Not doubting that he is a bit of a hard-nut but he doesn't need that side to his game as he is not really subtle enough to do it effectively. You can be as nails as you want but if you're sat in the stands or in an early bath it's little use! He needs to concentrate on this issue or he will never be reliabe enough to be more than a bit-part player at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 A pity because its not the style NA is building or the reputation we want, maybe its good to have him out of the reckoning for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 A definite red card and a stupid, pointless follow through from Chaplow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 It was a clumsy challenge, but no intent in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Straight red, no question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 I'm not unhappy. I would rather have Morgan in there than Chaplow anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 :rolleyes:Chappers is a real angel and would not doooo anyone... At most, needs to hold back very slightly and he will be even more effective.. Times to jockey and times to hit hard...... Seen many of those in the premier go without punishment and at most what I saw was a yellow card and a finger wagging... Last week we saw many Dirty Leeds challenges go unpunished.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 I remember watching him in a televised cup match playing for Preston (think fatty Parkin scored some goals, against Liverpool?) and he was one of the dirtiest players I had seen. This was after his initial loan spell with us and I don't remember him being that dirty then. It's almost as though he felt the need to develop a "niche" as a hard-nut. Not doubting that he is a bit of a hard-nut but he doesn't need that side to his game as he is not really subtle enough to do it effectively. You can be as nails as you want but if you're sat in the stands or in an early bath it's little use! He needs to concentrate on this issue or he will never be reliabe enough to be more than a bit-part player at this level. He's definitely added more of an aggressive element to his game. I watched him play for WBA on a few occasions (my dad is a baggies supporter) and he was often the energetic midfielder, bursting into the box, scoring goals and spraying the passes left to right. A technically outstanding player in those days - he's still got that in him, but this dirty edge to his game goes a bit too far these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamRed Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Definite straight red, but having one lunatic in the side may be be a bad thing. Remember when we were here last time and we got bullied every week? Won't happen with Chappers. 8-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asaint4ever Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Dirty and don't wanna see this from Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Definite red and pure stupidity. Sure NA will give him a good talking to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Looked pretty horrible, no complaints or excuse for it really. That said, the situation could have been avoided had the referee clamped down on some pretty hefty and late tackles (from players on both sides) in the minute or two leading up to the red card. The ref let everything go which seemed to indicate that anything was fair game at that stage. Had it been nipped in the bud earlier, I'm pretty sure Chaplow wouldn't have felt the need to leave his mark on McEveley there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Definite straight red, but having one lunatic in the side may be be a bad thing. Remember when we were here last time and we got bullied every week? Won't happen with Chappers. 8-) Kind of agree with this. Was a red card for sure so no complaints. Agree that our team does need a bit of steel in it too though. Don't think it needs to be with the studs though. Chappers could of taken the ball then left his leg up so his body crashed into the player and no action would of been taken. Making the point of the strong part of our game would of been made. Don't want to see a nasty side of our game at all so hopefully the red will teach a quick lesson and I hope NA will also make the point behind closed doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycrow Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 A definite red. I don't think he made any kind of decision to hurt the player prior to the challenge though, it was a split second choice while he was in the air and he made the wrong one. Deserving of red and at least 3 game ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilko Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 It looked like he got the ball from where I was, but i was at the back of the stand and a few sheets to the wind. I haven't seen the highlights yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilko Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Just watched the highlights. It was a definite red card. Having said that, I'm not going to get all wet about it. Sometimes footballers put in bad tackles. That's just the way it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stcappy Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 At the time yesterday it looked from the away end like a harsh decision- he got the ball and had no where to go as the oppo player charged at him. First viewing on tv shows him clearly leave his foot there. Definate red. Very silly boy given how hard it will be to get a place in our midfield this year when all are fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Unprofessional from Chappy, but it was hillarious. It's good that we have someone uncompromising as a midfield option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 He took the ball first & had time to pull back, from going through studs first. He would probably clattered the player anyway, but no action would have been taken if he'd dropped his foot. It was a poor challenge & rightly red carded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Agree with majority, a dangerous challenge is a dangeroiuys challenge, regardless of whether the player makes contact with the ball. Not the first time Chaplow has been guilty of a reckless challenge and he needs to remove it from his game altogether for the obvious reason that a fellow professional footballer could suffer a severe injury as a result. Of less importance is the fact that it could easily have cost Saints 2 points but I wouldn't argue if he is punished by the club more severely than the suspended games as he needs to learn the lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Sending off. No mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Straight red, fo' sho'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockportsaint Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Hmm, defo a red. Seemed to leave his foot in there to hurt the guy on purpose. Will prob. be a 3 match ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 When i first saw it live at the game, i thought not a red. Having seen it back, it is a red for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Rubbish poll, it was both a deserved red card AND he was unlucky to be sent off. Letter of the law says it was reckless, but he clearly got the ball and it takes two to be reckless in a collision. The opponent deserved at least a yellow for simulation given his rolly-aroundy jumping up and carrying on after the card behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 He made contact with the ball and it went clear - but looks to me as though he left his foot in for the player to run into!!!! As opposed to pulling out of the tackle and getting clattered by someone running straight into him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Hmm, defo a red. Seemed to leave his foot in there to hurt the guy on purpose. Will prob. be a 3 match ban. Will definitely be a three match ban as it would be violent conduct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 14 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Rubbish poll, it was both a deserved red card AND he was unlucky to be sent off. Letter of the law says it was reckless, but he clearly got the ball and it takes two to be reckless in a collision. The opponent deserved at least a yellow for simulation given his rolly-aroundy jumping up and carrying on after the card behaviour. There was only a collision because he booted the other player. Your post makes no sense at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 There was only a collision because he booted the other player. Your post makes no sense at all. The other player was running straight at him and had Chaplow not booted the ball (and then put his boot down on the opponent), they'd have just run into each other. If his opponent wasn't near enough for a collision, how was Chaplow able to make contact ? I think he was unlucky, the natural defence against a collision is to put something up to fend off the impact (usually an arm), Chaplow in the split second after playing the ball held his boot there because it was already raised and between his body and his opponent's. He was slightly off-balance and falling forward, and led with the boot he'd put up into the player's thigh area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 I was at the game and to be honest when i saw it i thought that both went for the ball and then their guy just fell over. At the time thought it was really harsh. However now seeing it on tv i didn't know he did the follow through kick/stamp. I don't think he meant any real intention to hurt the guy but it was pretty nasty and could of done some serious damage if there was more power behind it. It was a straight red and was a stupid challenge really. I don't think anyone can blame the ref on that one. If someone had done the same to say Lallana and he was then injured for a long time people would be wanting blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Clear red card, but I agree with those above questioning the intent behind it. A three match ban is plenty imo. I also agree with Fareham Red fwiw. Chaplow reminds me a bit of David Prutton, certifiable but an asset to the team, and willing to put 100% into every game and every tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 How is it not a red ? He blatently kicked out at him in mid air ? No the9, he kicked out, it was stupid and petulant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Albert Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 I must admit at the time I thought it was a 50 50 but we didn't have a great view as it was down t'other end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 at the time I thought it was an obvious red, he clearly followed through when he could have pulled out and I was therefore dissappointed that the vast majority of Saints fans applauded him off. He was an idiot and very unprofessional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Definate yellow, but not deserving of a straight red. Look at it this way - he went for the ball, not the player and the opposing player was running into the challenge wholeheartedly so there was little time to get his foot out of the way. He didn't and perhaps he deliberately didn't try to move his foot out of the way fast enough, but it was not in the same league as some of the potentially leg breaking tackles I have seen in the past that have only received a yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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