John Smith Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Here you go guys. Muad 'Dib was released from prison a couple of weeks ago. He was imprisoned for sending the court this video. The UK had him extradited from Ireland on conspiracy charges. However, this video also got him released by a jury of his peers. This video has been proved in court to be a reliable source of evidence for the 7/7 attacks and yet, the government refuse to conduct a public enquiry. Just remember, a conspiracy theory is a conspiracy without evidence or proof, this video is a conspiracy, but, the conspiracy theory has been fed to you by the government, as their version contains no evidence and very little fact. Watch it if you dare, but watch it before it gets removed again from google and you tube. The government don't want you to see this, but, the law courts say it is a relevant piece of evidence of a Governmentr conspiracy. http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=8756795263359807776 Also, if you're in the mood, this will blow your mind, but, remember, there has also never been a public enquiry, just a load of dossiers by a few uneducated, unrelated people. Try listening to the 'experts' like the pilots for the 9/11 attacks. The Bush government was a disgrace, but, the Obama government carries on the lies. One Government, one world. A new world order? http://www.documentarywire.com/911-ripple-effect Then, if you really want to live on the edge, try this for size: http://tulsachange.com/did-the-dimona-dozen-murder-the-fukushima-50 Now, I know some of you have very short attention spans, but, if you have the guts to challenge the party line, then you'll learn a lot. what can we do about all this? Nothing, but, at least respect these guys. Muad 'Dib spent time in prison for telling the 'truth' the american guys get ridiculed on TV daily, this Fukashima guy is being terrorised by the secret forces, they just want you to hear a version of the truth that the government is hiding. Is this illegal, h*ll no! They just don't want you to know. Watch them, I dare you! The truth will set you free... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Muad'Dib, aka John Hill, also claims to be the Messiah, and that George Lucas was made to write the script for Star Wars after receiving it via the Force. CREDIBLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted 14 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Muad'Dib, aka John Hill, also claims to be the Messiah, and that George Lucas was made to write the script for Star Wars after receiving it via the Force. CREDIBLE. If you choose not to watch it, that's fine, but don't be a pr*t. Watch it or leave it, don't fuel the governments name blackening by idle garbage. Watch it, I dare you, and then tell me whether you think THIS is credible or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Freak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted 14 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Freak. To be fair, I expected these kind of responses from ignorant people. you don't even know why you're calling me a freak. You're just scared, and I pity you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Just watched it. What a pile of conspiracy ******s. You'd need to be seriously deluded to believe that sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 The 9/11 conspiracies are all obviously b*ll*x, I watched 2mins of that 7/7 one and turned off - could somone put their idea across in bullet points to save me wasting an hour of my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Typical conspiracy theory moron response. There's no merit in questioning everything and anything just because. Of course things go on we don't know about, of course governments and multinationals lie, but this sort of **** is almost certainly crap. Try to sit up high on that mountain of conceit if you wish, but it is an illusion and to everyone else, you're sprawled on your ass in a pit of scorn. What I pointed out is pretty well documented to be true. You can't always claim everything ever is some massive fabrication, it's like holocaust deniers making up crap. The scale of coer-ups is far too large to have any chance of being real in that case, and it's too outlandish and retarded to boot here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 I was watching the Harry Potter film last night and the ministry of magic said they had notified the prime minister of the escape from Azkaban - but we never get to hear about it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 I heard the 9/11 attacks happened because the US government were desperate to destroy crucial evidence proving that man has never walked on the moon. I doubt any of you are going to believe that, but trust me, a mental person told me it was true over the internet once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Here you go guys. Muad 'Dib was released from prison a couple of weeks ago. He was imprisoned for sending the court this video. The UK had him extradited from Ireland on conspiracy charges. However, this video also got him released by a jury of his peers. This video has been proved in court to be a reliable source of evidence for the 7/7 attacks and yet, the government refuse to conduct a public enquiry. Just remember, a conspiracy theory is a conspiracy without evidence or proof, this video is a conspiracy, but, the conspiracy theory has been fed to you by the government, as their version contains no evidence and very little fact. Watch it if you dare, but watch it before it gets removed again from google and you tube. The government don't want you to see this, but, the law courts say it is a relevant piece of evidence of a Governmentr conspiracy. http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=8756795263359807776 Also, if you're in the mood, this will blow your mind, but, remember, there has also never been a public enquiry, just a load of dossiers by a few uneducated, unrelated people. Try listening to the 'experts' like the pilots for the 9/11 attacks. The Bush government was a disgrace, but, the Obama government carries on the lies. One Government, one world. A new world order? http://www.documentarywire.com/911-ripple-effect Then, if you really want to live on the edge, try this for size: http://tulsachange.com/did-the-dimona-dozen-murder-the-fukushima-50 Now, I know some of you have very short attention spans, but, if you have the guts to challenge the party line, then you'll learn a lot. what can we do about all this? Nothing, but, at least respect these guys. Muad 'Dib spent time in prison for telling the 'truth' the american guys get ridiculed on TV daily, this Fukashima guy is being terrorised by the secret forces, they just want you to hear a version of the truth that the government is hiding. Is this illegal, h*ll no! They just don't want you to know. Watch them, I dare you! The truth will set you free... Nutter alert! A document on Muad Dib's website reveals he believes he is the Messiah and that George Lucas wrote Star Wars after being told telepathically what to write, by the very "Force" to which the films refer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 I pity you.Ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 http://beforeitsnews.com/story/931/331/WNL/Exclusive:_Last_Man_Out_Makes_Shocking_9_11_Disclosure.html . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 http://beforeitsnews.com/story/931/331/WNL/Exclusive:_Last_Man_Out_Makes_Shocking_9_11_Disclosure.html. Oh for heaven's sake (no pun intended) stop it. This is the measure of the level of 'reporting': Once past the heroism, this story begins to slice through the slimy underbelly of a vile, pathological beast that controls our lives, and gives us glimpses of the innards of this creature that grins gleefully at our gullibility and simple innocence while trampling on our most basic human rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Excuse me but I didn't write it, comment on it as to if I thought is is/isn't possible. I only posted the link which someone else passed to me. All I will say however is that it is always interesting to read all kinds of different stories as it can make people at least think. Also I still like my mind being introduced to new stuff as it helps stave off altzimers ( or however its spelt ) A mind that refuses to at least look at new ideas become like a stagnant pond. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Did you know the TV series 'V' was a documentary not a science fiction programme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Do people really believe this tripe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted 15 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Do people really believe this tripe Apparently not, nearly all of you lot on here believe in ghost trains (too much scooby doo if you ask me) and WMD's (those weapons of mass dissappearance). And when this turned out to all be force, we killed loads of those murdering muslims anyways! And who do you all believe after giving me jip? tony B Liar and the Burning Bush, quality. I'll stick to the facts thanks. Oh no, another economic meltdown is about to happen, but it's nothing to do with the government or the banks, must be those pesky kids in Tottenham. I'll get you a scooby snack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Apparently not, nearly all of you lot on here believe in ghost trains (too much scooby doo if you ask me) and WMD's (those weapons of mass dissappearance). And when this turned out to all be force, we killed loads of those murdering muslims anyways! And who do you all believe after giving me jip? tony B Liar and the Burning Bush, quality. I'll stick to the facts thanks. Oh no, another economic meltdown is about to happen, but it's nothing to do with the government or the banks, must be those pesky kids in Tottenham. I'll get you a scooby snack! What looked to be an interesting thread, ruined by errr.... the OP. Translation of the above somebody, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted 15 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 15 August, 2011 What looked to be an interesting thread, ruined by errr.... the OP. Translation of the above somebody, please? Interesting in the way i've been called a freak, a nutter, etc etc. These people haven't even looked watched the link. So, if you are genuinly interested, Muad'Dib, aka John Hill presented this as evidence in the trial in relation to the 'Muslims' that apparently helped the 'suicide bombers' (this is in inverts because those 'suicide bombers were actually shot dead in docklands outside the media buildings as they ran to the press to try and tell their story and seek safety from this set up). The court, instead of viewing the evidence, sent out a warrant for John Hill and extradited from Ireland on the back of this, and his charge? Perverting the course of justice, even though the court never even viewed the dvd. Then. John spent over 150 days in Wandsworth prison where the prison, for some reaon they cannot give, failed to present John to the courts for his bail hearing on 4 seperate occasions. Eventually he was bailed. His trial, which ended about 3 weeks ago, proved that this dvd should be admissable as evidence in a public inquiry. An inquiry which at least 800 victims and friends and family of those victims have been calling for since day 1 and the government REFUSE to call. The government, the last one, at the time led by Tony B Liar, covered up the story, and pushed it as far away from public as possible, whilst the BBC spread their propeganda to millions coverting these muslims as murdering Islamic fundamentalists. And yet, they were nothing of the sort. They were taking part in a planned 'pretend' bomb attack in the capital, organised by MI5 and MI6, the government and the MET. This 'pretend' terrorist attack centred around the proposed bombing of the London underground and the buses. Those trains and buses planned to be hit, were the same tubes and bus that were actually hit. The head of the MET (now resigned after John was released), mistakingly confessed to knowing that these bombings were the work of three terrorists, although when he stated this, NOBODY knew anything of the sort. Also, the judge in the case accusing the 3 men of supporting the 'suicide bombers' (aka those that were shot dead in docklands), declared that those 'suicide bombers' were GUILTY of causing these attrocities even though no formal case has EVER been presented to the courts as their has been no inquiry and those 'suicide bombers' murdered in cold blood in the docklands have never been found guilty of anything (other than HELPING the police in THEIR pretend terrorist attack). John thought that this was a miscarriage of justice, as you and I and all of us are innocent until proven guilty, and not trial by TV and the media, condemnig innocent people of crimes they didn't commit just so we can continue to send our troops to Afganistan to kill more of these non-existant muslim terrorists! You have been duped if you believe the government line, as they have NO evidence whatsoever that these muslims blew up the tube. They only have one crucial bit of evidence that they have pushed out to you all and that was the image of them all entering the Luton train station. the government say that this proves they boarded a specific train which got them to Kings Cross, just in time to board the tube which was the eventual bombed tube. HOWEVER,. this train that they supposebly caught, as per their instructions from the met and the services carrying out this planned terrorist gameplay, WAS CANCELLED, it never ran, it DIDN'T arrive. The supposed 'suicide bombers' turned up on the following train AFTER the explosions had already occured. They smelt a rat and ran to the media as all trains were cancelled and they couldn't get back. they were stranded miles from home, London was chaos and they were the ones supposedly accused of it. they ran for their lives and were brutally gunned down near canary wharf. These are facts. The ghost train INVENTED by the government is a conspiracy theory as it didn't exist. Check with the rail operators if you don't believe me, or watch the ripple effect because it contacted the line operator personally and taped the call, received the cancelled schedule AND have witnesses to thios fact. The government has covered this up. Why, well that's for you to decide. But, don't listen to those scared of the truth, the one's that just name call and vindicate people just for what they do in their lives. This guy obtained the facts and presented them, for which he was extradited, im[prisoned and denied bail. Justice? You decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Quick, hide the tinfoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Hey, I'm an open-minded guy but to be honest, you're clearling a total f*cking nutjob. You question everything but your own weird version of events, which don't stand up to even cursory scrutiny. If you want to question things, try questioning everything equally rather than just the status quo version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Tony B Liar Ooh I say, that's awfully clever! Did you think of that yourself? Or did aliens beam that to your brain, directly to those implants that Buddy Holly and Elvis put there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 I like a good conspiracy theory but that is even worse than the 9/11 one. For starters Canary Warf is over 5 miles from St Cross, you can't go 5 yards in London without appearing on some form of CCTV. And Police can't just gun people down in London Docklands in broad daylight and not get noticed, especially on a day when everyone would be a nervous wreck after the bombings. bonkers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted 15 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 15 August, 2011 I like a good conspiracy theory but that is even worse than the 9/11 one. For starters Canary Warf is over 5 miles from St Cross, you can't go 5 yards in London without appearing on some form of CCTV. And Police can't just gun people down in London Docklands in broad daylight and not get noticed, especially on a day when everyone would be a nervous wreck after the bombings. bonkers Spot on, and they didn't go unnoticed AND the shooting was covered by the news that very day and reported. Howerver, this news was later buried as was the CCTV of the bus bomber entering the LOWER level of the bus. Now, you can call this a theory if you like, but it has more legs than the government conspiracy theory that I repeat has NO evidence or FACTS at all whatsoever linking those muslims with the tube bombings. None, nothing nadda. BTW, this isn't my theory, this is just something that I am sharing with people on here. Yes, I expect the occassional nutjob abuse, of course I do. But, the fact is, no public inquiry has ever been called for. There has been no public inquiry after a supposed 'terrorist' attack on the capital city. There has been no public inquiry even after 800 people of victims and families of victims have petioned the government for one. However you look at it, this has been totally covered up and trialled in the media. This is unlawful. The judge in the case against the supposed assistants of the suicide bomber, who were cleared, labelled the 3 'suicide bombers' as guilty of this atrocity, even though they have never been charged, let alone found guilty of ANYTHING. Let me repeat that again, not because I'm having a go, but because it is very important, the apparent suicide bombers have NEVER BEEN FOUND GUILTY, by the goverment, by the police or by the law courts. They have been tried and convicted in the media, by the likes of the daily mail. Those are facts my friends. So, I leave this to you guys. You have the information in front of you and this has been confirmed by the Law Courts that this evidence IS relevant. You are choosing to ignore the Law and throw insults at me (not you personally aintforever) and those that provide evidence to protect your and mine human rights. one day, maybe your friends or family will be caught up in this, and maybe you will be accused of something you never did, tried and convicted in the media, then, and only then may you remeber that some of us uphold the law and the justice system and campaign for justice where none is provided. Remember, you are innocent until proven guilty, these guys from Leeds, have never been tried let alone found guilty, the reason is, there is NO evidence to convict, only the media that will convince you all that they are guilty and call people like John a fruitloop and accuse others that actually take time to listen, some sort of druggy. And they wonder why the riots happen, ignorance is no defence my friends. Love to you all, and I am happy to leave it there, I am no preacher, just a poster that posted something interesting. It is a shame so many of you on here are very very childish. (again, not directed at you aintforever). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Thing I really love about the nutters is that they cannot accept any sort of criticism or questioning. This one really is a prize nutter. Best one on here for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 i know who is more likely to tell me a pack of lies out of the american or british government and maud dib...and its not the recently released film maker. Governments give us endless unjustified wars, against nebulous enemies(1984 anyone?). The US government sent tens of thousands of its own young men to die in Vietnam...they really don't care who gets in the way of their plans. Things are turning nasty in the world, and we are very very foolish if we turn a blind eye to the outrages perpetrated by those at the top. The government has NEVER tried to clear up what happened on 7/7.....and the allegations against the "bombers" are based on wafer thin evidence at best. Its time for ordinary people to stop buying into the madness our governments give us, and to start demanding things like housing at prices we can afford, food and water for the worlds population, an end to arms sales to despotic , violent governments, an end to reliance on american and middle eastern oil interests, just for starters. The people at the top brought you WW1.....and they continue to treat the worlds population like cattle. oh, and if you want to see lies in action, just look back at the news coverage of Fukushima. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 .and the allegations against the "bombers" are based on wafer thin evidence at best. What like the fragment of Shehzad Tanweer's shin bone found in Philip Duckworth's eye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 The videos (die infidel scum etc)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Just watched the Ripple Effect - got some interesting stuff in there - the 'bus' theory in particular. Other than that, unfortunately I remain one of the BBC brainwashed public - I prefer the reported scheme of events as opposed to the alternate, and somewhat unbelievable, theory that the government decided to kill innocent civilians, blame it on muslims in order to strengthen public resolve in overseas actions. As I say - it is an interesting theory - but let's be honest, there is now a 'conspiracy' behind many major events, few hold much water. My whole problem with such theories is the amount of people who would have to be on the 'inside' for them to be 'sucessful'. You just wouldn't be able to gag them all - somebody would blow thier cover. Would all of those people in high office really be prepared to risk everything on a plan of murder - I doubt it very very much. For the record, I don't think you are a nutter - your opinion is yours, you are welcome to share it with others - but don't expect them to be instantly converted to your way of thinking. A bit like trying to get a Saints fan to support Pompey - never gonna happy in a month of Sundays...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 This Muad Dib blokes been reading too much Frank Herbert if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 This Muad Dib blokes been reading too much Frank Herbert if you ask me. Exactly...and listening to dune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 (edited) I keep an open mind on this stuff. There is plenty of historical precedent for conspiracies actually being true. Granted, there are also cases where the conspiracy theory is wide of the mark, but that doesn't invalidate all of them. The United States House Select Committee on Assassinations concluded that Kennedy was "very likely assassinated as a result of a conspiracy". The 1970s saw Watergate, while in the 1980s we had Iran-Contra. Conspiracies happen all the time. This blog post has a list that have either been proven true, or proven as covered up. Humanity has a bit of previous in the old conspiracy department, and no disrespect to anyone on this forum, few of us, if any, are ever going to get any real power. Who knows how it gets wielded? Really? I don't buy into everything, but there are some interesting matters of record that raise questions. Peter Power in the 7/7 video is interesting. He admitted on Radio 5 that they were doing a drill on 7/7, a simulated terrorist attack with exactly the same scenario and targets of the events that took place that day. Or take the Project For A New American Century paper, "Rebuilding America's Defenses" - produced by a neoconservative think-tank, many of which became part of the Bush Administration. In their preface, they state that a core mission of the US military should be to "fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theater wars". Later on in the document, they state "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor". The document was written in 2000, 9/11 happens a year later and we're knee-deep in Afghanistan and Iraq a couple of years later. Is there a link between the PNAC document and 9/11? I just don't know, but I can see why some would make the link. Ultimately, I think the reason I don't fully buy into these conspiracies is because it'd scare me sh*tless if the larger ones are true. Edited 8 September, 2011 by pap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 16 August, 2011 Share Posted 16 August, 2011 It's interesting in a Dan Brown novel type of way, but all things considered, it's a load of old pony and is spoilt when it comes up with crap like "those who want to enslave you" and banging on about mind control through TV. And the train cancellation is a load of old ******** too, cos if they were going to catch the 7.40 (which was delayed and hence the argument they couldn't have been on the tube) the previous train was delayed and left at 7.42, after they had arrived. Chances are they got on that one, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 16 August, 2011 Share Posted 16 August, 2011 There is a reason why conspiracy theorists are peddled by nutters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$$$ Posted 16 August, 2011 Share Posted 16 August, 2011 watch it before it gets removed again from google and you tube. Really? A quick Google video search shows over 1500 hits for 7/7 Ripple Effect, many uploaded over three years ago including the link you posted. Perhaps someone should show these shadowy government forces how to use Google Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmm Donuts Posted 16 August, 2011 Share Posted 16 August, 2011 Is there a difference between coming up with evidence and picking holes in another version of events? If so, what evidence is there in this video? shadowy figures, train times, stories in papers (credible?), a slip of the tongue by the met commissioner ... There are some interesting points in the film though, some tedious links also, but worth an hour of my time if only to avoid working on my latest assignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 16 August, 2011 Share Posted 16 August, 2011 It's interesting in a Dan Brown novel type of way, but all things considered, it's a load of old pony and is spoilt when it comes up with crap like "those who want to enslave you" and banging on about mind control through TV. And the train cancellation is a load of old ******** too, cos if they were going to catch the 7.40 (which was delayed and hence the argument they couldn't have been on the tube) the previous train was delayed and left at 7.42, after they had arrived. Chances are they got on that one, eh? Completely agree. The rhetoric on some of these videos instantly turn people off, as do the distortions that are employed to sex stuff up. Wholesale adoption of any dogma is ultimately unhealthy for the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithd Posted 16 August, 2011 Share Posted 16 August, 2011 I'll stick to the facts thanks. the what now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 16 August, 2011 Share Posted 16 August, 2011 The rhetoric on some of these videos instantly turn people off, as do the distortions that are employed to sex stuff up. Wholesale adoption of any dogma is ultimately unhealthy for the truth. Best post on the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 16 August, 2011 Share Posted 16 August, 2011 Best post on the thread. I disagree i thought the line "Hey, I'm an open-minded guy but to be honest, you're clearling a total f*cking nutjob" was the best on this thread!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted 8 September, 2011 Author Share Posted 8 September, 2011 So, as the 9/11 anniversary draws ever closer, the conspiracy cover ups continue to be rolled out in the media. If it is insensitive to talk about conspiracies at this time, it is as insensitive to dismiss them out of hand. We owe those people effected, the truth. I wish I knew what it was... Read the article, then read the comments. As you'll notice, there is a large swell of theorists out there, and those numbers grow and grow as you actually look at the evidence not just believe what you are told the evidence could be if it were shown. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/9-11-conspiracy-theories.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 8 September, 2011 Share Posted 8 September, 2011 So, as the 9/11 anniversary draws ever closer, the conspiracy cover ups continue to be rolled out in the media. If it is insensitive to talk about conspiracies at this time, it is as insensitive to dismiss them out of hand. We owe those people effected, the truth. I wish I knew what it was... Read the article, then read the comments. As you'll notice, there is a large swell of theorists out there, and those numbers grow and grow as you actually look at the evidence not just believe what you are told the evidence could be if it were shown. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/9-11-conspiracy-theories.html As someone who's made films about 9/11 and the aftermath, I can tell you that the people whose lives have been most directly affected by events that day are extremely unhappy about the paranoic fantasies of the conspiracy theorists. To give a couple of straightforward examples, I've interviewed the wife of the captain of American Airlines 11 (the plane that hit the north Tower) and the husband of two flight attendants who managed to make detailed calls to the ground as AA11 headed towards the Twin Towers. The film itself was denounced by a number of conspiracy loonies as a 'Zionist psyops operation' (partly because we were the first to tell the story of Daniel Lewin), and the relatives rubbished because in the weird world that is the conspiracy fantasist, no planes hit the Towers, or if they did, they were empty and remote-controlled. The fantasists account for the missing crew and passengers by claiming they were offloaded at Area 51 and executed by the Bush administration. Or some variant on this rubbish. But the relatives themselves, who've had far more access to secret information than anyone outside official circles, this is hurtful garbage. It devalues and diminishes their lost husbands and wives, some of whom - even on AA11 - put up as much resistance as they could in the circumstances and paid for it with their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey-deacons-left-nut Posted 8 September, 2011 Share Posted 8 September, 2011 That's because people on internet forums are generally regarded as "****ing idiots".... and i'm one of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red&White Posted 8 September, 2011 Share Posted 8 September, 2011 Totally agree what a load of tosh ! Just watched it. What a pile of conspiracy ******s. You'd need to be seriously deluded to believe that sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 8 September, 2011 Share Posted 8 September, 2011 These are facts. The ghost train INVENTED by the government is a conspiracy theory as it didn't exist. Check with the rail operators if you don't believe me I don't need to check with the rail operators. I was there. This is the biggest load of toilet I've ever seen in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 8 September, 2011 Share Posted 8 September, 2011 watched the first one , what a load of tosh. My ex wife was there at bus bombing she was one of the medics that gave medical help in tavistock square. Grade A military explosives if that had be used more than just the top of the bus would have disappeared. What a nutter this guy is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 8 September, 2011 Share Posted 8 September, 2011 As someone who's made films about 9/11 and the aftermath, I can tell you that the people whose lives have been most directly affected by events that day are extremely unhappy about the paranoic fantasies of the conspiracy theorists. To give a couple of straightforward examples, I've interviewed the wife of the captain of American Airlines 11 (the plane that hit the north Tower) and the husband of two flight attendants who managed to make detailed calls to the ground as AA11 headed towards the Twin Towers. The film itself was denounced by a number of conspiracy loonies as a 'Zionist psyops operation' (partly because we were the first to tell the story of Daniel Lewin), and the relatives rubbished because in the weird world that is the conspiracy fantasist, no planes hit the Towers, or if they did, they were empty and remote-controlled. The fantasists account for the missing crew and passengers by claiming they were offloaded at Area 51 and executed by the Bush administration. Or some variant on this rubbish. But the relatives themselves, who've had far more access to secret information than anyone outside official circles, this is hurtful garbage. It devalues and diminishes their lost husbands and wives, some of whom - even on AA11 - put up as much resistance as they could in the circumstances and paid for it with their lives. The best non-football related post I've read in while on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 8 September, 2011 Share Posted 8 September, 2011 (edited) watched the first one , what a load of tosh. My ex wife was there at bus bombing she was one of the medics that gave medical help in tavistock square. Grade A military explosives if that had be used more than just the top of the bus would have disappeared. What a nutter this guy is I had a smile at that bit as well. You'd need to be a totally clueless fu ckwit to believe any of that bol loxs. Edited 8 September, 2011 by View From The Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 8 September, 2011 Share Posted 8 September, 2011 Watch it if you dare, but watch it before it gets removed again from google and you tube. The government don't want you to see this, but, the law courts say it is a relevant piece of evidence of a Governmentr conspiracy. Still not been removed yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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