Dr Who? Posted 13 August, 2011 Share Posted 13 August, 2011 Ok Ok I know this has been posted elsewhere, but I have been through the 10 pages, and I cannot find the old thread. I am not one to start rumours as I cannot see the point of it, but Beattie was out and about in Southampton tonight, and the romour is he is looking for a return! He would love to come back. What is happening with him, is he still on the books at Blackpool on loan, or has he returned to Rangers? Rangers played this lunchtime, so he made a pretty sharpish return to the south coast! If he is still at Blackpool then they are playing tomorrow. Weird one but I think he is out of favour or injured as does not seem to be in any Rangers or Blackpool squads. Seems a waste when he could do a job for us in this league. The way things are going at the moment perhpas we should continue to move forward with Brand new signings and no egos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 13 August, 2011 Share Posted 13 August, 2011 not good enough any more. We have better already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 August, 2011 Share Posted 13 August, 2011 He's a rangers player but nowhere near the 1st team! Been up here a year scored zero! Don't think he score for Blackpool either? Time we moved on, loved him when he was here before - don't however won't him back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 August, 2011 Share Posted 13 August, 2011 That ship has sailed, we got the best out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 13 August, 2011 Share Posted 13 August, 2011 We can do better than him. Good luck to him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 13 August, 2011 Share Posted 13 August, 2011 For the first time since Saints relegation I wouldn't want him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 13 August, 2011 Share Posted 13 August, 2011 Brand new signings with no egos counts out beattie. Imho of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 13 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 13 August, 2011 Think he probably knows that he cannot cut it at the top anymore, but the ego and upsetting the balance of the team would be my worry. The current squad all work well for each other and there seems to be a great team spirit. I have no doubt that he could do a great job in the NPC though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voteforpedro Posted 13 August, 2011 Share Posted 13 August, 2011 Yeah I saw Beattie and Fuller at Mono or Pop or whatever its called last night. I think its highly unlikely we'd sign either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 August, 2011 Share Posted 13 August, 2011 For the first time since Saints relegation I wouldn't want him back. Delighted to agree. I loved Beatts when he was here but that was then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 13 August, 2011 Share Posted 13 August, 2011 SaintsWeb has spoken again, close the thread. Beattie is not wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 13 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 13 August, 2011 Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 13 August, 2011 Share Posted 13 August, 2011 For the first time since Saints relegation I wouldn't want him back. Exactly this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 13 August, 2011 Share Posted 13 August, 2011 Just to go against what seems to be the popular opinion (and as I've said on the last 3 or 4 threads about him) I'd be more than happy to see him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 13 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 13 August, 2011 This is a strange one, because before the season started I would have said take him, but now, we look pretty good. If we go 3/4 games without a win or a goal....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 He was great for us in his time here, but that was then and this is now. You cannot go back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 No thanks next question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 with connelys form and lambert being a better player now i cant see him getting in the team, we need a quick striker if we get a new one fortes are only really quick impact striker we have unless you throw guly up there, but with bannard also to come back it would be silly to buy a striker whos going to expect regular 1st team football, we need to sign a young talent whos going to accept rotation, someone 22/23 not 33/34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 not good enough any more. We have better already. I'm sure he'd love to come back..but who would take him ?...he isn't even first team squad at Rangers PLUS he is already 33 years old ..and we have people on this site claiming David Connolly is TOO OLD ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Take off the Saints tinted glasses for a moment & forget he ever played for us... now would you take a player who is 33/34 but not really played in the last 2 years because he's out of favour and injured at a number of clubs and who hasn't really done anything scoring wise in the last 3-4 years. Plus the fact he's so motivated to get back that he's in a nightclub at the start of the season.... ....move on, there's far better out there. Yes he was great when he was here. I just do not get why people keep harping back to should we sign Beattie other than they've had a few drinks on a Saturday night and haven't pulled. Especially when we're on a record number of wins at sat top of the table at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 I would be a bit disappointed if we did sign him tbh. Cant see it happening anyway, Nigel seems to be getting players onto the bus who are early in their career rather than near the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 I would be a bit disappointed if we did sign him tbh. Cant see it happening anyway, Nigel seems to be getting players onto the bus who are early in their career rather than near the end of it. Agreed. Players making " Messianic or Prodigal " returns to a club looks good in history books and movies but in reality - it rarely happens with any degree of success and often only in dire circumstances by managers who like to sing Auld Land Syne to the fans tune...I think NA is far more realistic than that and doesn't have any sentiment for JB or any former Saints player. the few Saints cases that I can recall directly are; Alan Ball's second time signing, Mick Channon's return and Kevin Davies reverse transfer to/from Blackburn...and the return of Craig Maskell (when Bally was manager)... none of which were very memorable . Sorry Beatts. Nice while it lasted..Find yourself a lower league team where you can get yourself some games..before it's too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 I don't think anybody who has played at the level beattie has should be rejected without at least given a chance to prove they still could be an asset to the club,if he's free and he doesn't demand silly wages then he should possibly be given a go,perhaps on a monthly rolling contract. I think it would be silly to dismiss an experienced footballer just because Of his age......after all it was only a few months ago that lots of you were getting erectile about the Michael Owen rumour and he's about the same age as Beattie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 the few Saints cases that I can recall directly are; Alan Ball's second time signing, Mick Channon's return and Kevin Davies reverse transfer to/from Blackburn...and the return of Craig Maskell (when Bally was manager)... none of which were very memorable . You're right - I'd totally forgotten the years '80 - '82 when he was part of that side that finished 8th, 6th and 7th in the top division. I remember Keegan, Golac, Armstrong, Moran, Williams etc. but had totally forgotten Channon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 No thanks - we have moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Time we moved on, loved him when he was here before - don't however won't him back I'll never forget travelling up to Chelsea on New Year's Day 2002 and watching Beatts take Chelsea apart - with the help of the little Latvian! Beatts scored a superb free kick to open the scoring on 7 minutes - but we still went in at HT 2-1 down. We came out 2nd half though and were on fire. Marian & CMFG added a couple more about the hour mark before Beatts finished the scoring late on with his 2nd and our 4th. Brillaint display - and at a time when Chelsea were red-hot favourites and we (supposedly) had no chance! They had the likes of Terry, Lampard, Hasselbaink, Gudjohnsen, Gallas, etc. Great day for everyone there up from the south coast - and I got a lot of stick up at Stamford Bridge before the game with some nasty mouthy London geezers (without going into too much detail). Still, that was a great display - and it's the one game out of many that I will always remember Beattie for more than any other. He was sheer class that day - sheer class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 I still think he could do a decent job but what we need is a top quality partner for Lambert, preferably with pace. At the moment Connolly suits the job way more than Beattie would. I doubt Beattie would be happy as back-up for Rickie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stkev7 Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 I'll never forget travelling up to Chelsea on New Year's Day 2002 and watching Beatts take Chelsea apart - with the help of the little Latvian! Beatts scored a superb free kick to open the scoring on 7 minutes - but we still went in at HT 2-1 down. We came out 2nd half though and were on fire. Marian & CMFG added a couple more about the hour mark before Beatts finished the scoring late on with his 2nd and our 4th. Brillaint display - and at a time when Chelsea were red-hot favourites and we (supposedly) had no chance! They had the likes of Terry, Lampard, Hasselbaink, Gudjohnsen, Gallas, etc. Great day for everyone there up from the south coast - and I got a lot of stick up at Stamford Bridge before the game with some nasty mouthy London geezers (without going into too much detail). Still, that was a great display - and it's the one game out of many that I will always remember Beattie for more than any other. He was sheer class that day - sheer class. That was a great day, we were superb! On to the topic, sadly he's not good enough anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Agreed. Players making " Messianic or Prodigal " returns to a club looks good in history books and movies but in reality - it rarely happens with any degree of success and often only in dire circumstances by managers who like to sing Auld Land Syne to the fans tune...I think NA is far more realistic than that and doesn't have any sentiment for JB or any former Saints player. the few Saints cases that I can recall directly are; Alan Ball's second time signing, Mick Channon's return and Kevin Davies reverse transfer to/from Blackburn...and the return of Craig Maskell (when Bally was manager)... none of which were very memorable . Sorry Beatts. Nice while it lasted..Find yourself a lower league team where you can get yourself some games..before it's too late. Thinking back, didnt Beattie come back to us from blackburn? And after he couldnt buy a goal for them, he suddenly started scoring for fun here? Seems so long ago now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Thinking back, didnt Beattie come back to us from blackburn? And after he couldnt buy a goal for them, he suddenly started scoring for fun here? Seems so long ago now... That was Kevin Davies (still playing in the premiere now) Beattie was actually a young make weight in the original Davies to blackburn deal. At the time I think he had only played 3 games for Blackburn and was better known as a previous olympic swimming hopeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 I watched the Celtic Legends v. Manure Legends game in mid week on itv4. Henrik Larsen scored a hat trick and bossed the game at times. Agreed he was playing against and alongside mainly ex-players and celebreties, but that in itself means you need to be on your game as they are more unpredictable. His age..................... 39. Most of the taters agreed that he could still do a job at quite a high level. Admittedly Beats was no Larsen but given a mutually agreeable contract he could still provide the squad with some valuable experience if needed. Perhaps a pay as you play arrangement and if he dosen't want that type of deal nothing lost by either party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 You're right - I'd totally forgotten the years '80 - '82 when he was part of that side that finished 8th, 6th and 7th in the top division. I remember Keegan, Golac, Armstrong, Moran, Williams etc. but had totally forgotten Channon.[/quote] ..ssh say that last bit in a quiet voice. Mick was 12 years at The Dell and then for another 3 seasons after his return. He also clocked up the second highest apps. 602.....and holds the club record for most goals 228..unlikely to be beaten nowadays. On!... and Mick's 45 apps. for England (21 goals) was only surpassed by Peter Shilton's 49 caps (whilst he was at the club.) you didn't really forget him - did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 That was Kevin Davies (still playing in the premiere now) Beattie was actually a young make weight in the original Davies to blackburn deal. At the time I think he had only played 3 games for Blackburn and was better known as a previous olympic swimming hopeful. You are correct sir, I'm easily confused nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 He's always been a big head that looks down his nose at people. In his prime he'd be an asset, but now he's past it i'd consider him more of a liability. NA has built a good squad and it's not worth the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 (edited) Thinking back, didnt Beattie come back to us from blackburn? And after he couldnt buy a goal for them, he suddenly started scoring for fun here? Seems so long ago now... JB came to us when he was 20 y.o. A Blackburn sub. who couldn't get a regular game with them (cost £1 million + a 25% sell on clause ) that most of us didn't know about until he was transferred to Everton 7 years later. He managed 5 goals in 22 starts in his first season, but was shut out in the second when the forward line included Mark Hughes, Hassan Katchloul and Stuart Ripley.... and the in-form strikers were Marian Pahars and Kevin Davies. By 2000-01... he had established himself as a regular and was top scorer with 11 goals from 29 starts (incl.10 in 10 games) He was always a bit "in and out" and started the 2002-03 season going 9 games without scoring...then began a blitz with 11 goals in 8 starts (incl.hat-trick) and finished the season with 23 Prem.goals (best English player) and was third in the Golden Boot comp. for top Prem.goalscorer (won by Thierry Henry). As we said ..nice memories, but I can't see NA signing him again ..not even for " Old Time sake." Edited 15 August, 2011 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Would be on huge wages and tbh I think Lambert is better now anyway. He was a great player for us back in the day, but not any longer. Sorry Beatts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggers Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 You're going to see james around at the moment. This is his family home until he formally leaves rangers. There's nothing more in it than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 If he is fit and hungry to play then I would love to have him back. Why? Because age simply is not a barrier in the Championship. Look at KP for example, he's just turned 38 and scored a brace this weekend. He's not had the best couple of years, but at the end of the day he has more than enough quality to add something to our squad. David Connolly has barely scraped 50 appearances anywhere in the last four years, but we've kept him because he is quality - simple as. To suggest he's past it because he's 33 is bonkers really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 You're right - I'd totally forgotten the years '80 - '82 when he was part of that side that finished 8th, 6th and 7th in the top division. I remember Keegan, Golac, Armstrong, Moran, Williams etc. but had totally forgotten Channon.[/quote] ..ssh say that last bit in a quiet voice. Mick was 12 years at The Dell and then for another 3 seasons after his return. He also clocked up the second highest apps. 602.....and holds the club record for most goals 228..unlikely to be beaten nowadays. On!... and Mick's 45 apps. for England (21 goals) was only surpassed by Peter Shilton's 49 caps (whilst he was at the club.) you didn't really forget him - did you? Of course not - it was sarcasm. I know it is the lowest form of wit but I was upset that you said that my all-time favourite Saint's second spell with us was not memorable. I love the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir woody Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Mr.Beattie was at Royal Victoria Country Park in Netley yesterday with his wife and kids and his in laws, i had a quick chat with him because he parked next to me. He is injured at the moment and is hoping for a move back to england from rangers. His agent is offering him to clubs and rangers want him off their books because his wages are too high. He'll probably end up in the championship. I asked him would he like to come back to saints and he said 'of course' if they contacted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marino Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Always liked Beatts and he was very good for Saints - and vice versa. Appreciate he's injured at present but when fit would have thought he would he would walk into the Rangers team considering how dire Scottish football is. Never understood why half decent players -Ledley and Hooper come to mind- want to go to such a footballing backwater - 3 or 4 Old Firm games, an early exit from Champions League and thats the season over and done with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 I would have a fit Beatts back - he could help the cause for certain. However, if he is injured then the issue really is for how long? He would have to be willing to fit in with the salary structure now at Saints if he wanted a move, but also Saints would need to be certain he would have the determination to work hard to get match fit and thus be able to play. I couldn't see more than a one year deal on the table - in fact I wouldn't give him anything more than a pay as you play type deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 We don't need Beattie. He's old, slow and past it. Come on. Get me a young pacy striker any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Better than Beattie would be bringing Kevin Davies back. He's a better player, better character than he was when we let him go. He's just the type of player we need to get us out of the Championship and for the first season in the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Better than Beattie would be bringing Kevin Davies back. He's a better player, better character than he was when we let him go. He's just the type of player we need to get us out of the Championship and for the first season in the Premiership. Of course he's a better player, he's still playing in the Premier League for a start. Not a hope in hell we could get him this year, or any other Championship club for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Saint Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Ok Ok I know this has been posted elsewhere, but I have been through the 10 pages, and I cannot find the old thread. I am not one to start rumours as I cannot see the point of it, but Beattie was out and about in Southampton tonight, and the romour is he is looking for a return! He would love to come back. What is happening with him, is he still on the books at Blackpool on loan, or has he returned to Rangers? Rangers played this lunchtime, so he made a pretty sharpish return to the south coast! If he is still at Blackpool then they are playing tomorrow. Weird one but I think he is out of favour or injured as does not seem to be in any Rangers or Blackpool squads. Seems a waste when he could do a job for us in this league. The way things are going at the moment perhpas we should continue to move forward with Brand new signings and no egos? This good job he could dop for us. As far as I know we have enough turnstile operators and the ticket office seems well enough staffed. I cant think of any others that he would now be able to help us with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Mr.Beattie was at Royal Victoria Country Park in Netley yesterday with his wife and kids and his in laws, i had a quick chat with him because he parked next to me. He is injured at the moment and is hoping for a move back to england from rangers. His agent is offering him to clubs and rangers want him off their books because his wages are too high. He'll probably end up in the championship. I asked him would he like to come back to saints and he said 'of course' if they contacted him. Interesting. In some ways it would be nice for him to come back and help play a part in trying to get us promoted. He didn't exactly leave the club on a high when he moved to Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Better than Beattie would be bringing Kevin Davies back. He's a better player, better character than he was when we let him go. He's just the type of player we need to get us out of the Championship and for the first season in the Premiership. Davies may be a better player but unlike Beattie ..Kevin Davies was glad to get away. Read somewhere, he wanted to " get back up North ".... He didn't hit it off with Strachan, so we don't know what the "aftertaste " of that is, but I wouldn't expect him to be in the top 10 on NAs wanted list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Old, slow, been injured, massive ego, massive wages, only had a few decent seasons in his whole career and he doesn't fit in with the way we currently play. There, 7 reasons why I wouldn't want him back. We have a great team and seem to have great team spirit right now, we don't need anyone to spoil that, we need young hungry players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Why take BT? He's pretty average for the CCC. Where as we could have Jay Rod! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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