benjii Posted 23 August, 2011 Posted 23 August, 2011 He's got one year left on his contract. He is worth about £2m-£2.5m absolute max.
Smirking_Saint Posted 23 August, 2011 Posted 23 August, 2011 He is worth what the demand for him suggests, for instance, there are rumoured to be 3-4 teams after him, why would they want to accept less than what they consider to be A. Worth it and B. What people are prepared to pay ?? Yes he is in the last year of his contract but if they are prepared to let that run down than it doesn't really matter. He still has a year to potentially sign a new one, fire them clear of relegation and perhaps even up the league. He is a decent player, with the current valuations going around (£30 Million for Carroll) then 5 Mill for this talented, young, English striker is probably about true IMO
benjii Posted 23 August, 2011 Posted 23 August, 2011 He is worth what the demand for him suggests, for instance, there are rumoured to be 3-4 teams after him, why would they want to accept less than what they consider to be A. Worth it and B. What people are prepared to pay ?? Yes he is in the last year of his contract but if they are prepared to let that run down than it doesn't really matter. He still has a year to potentially sign a new one, fire them clear of relegation and perhaps even up the league. He is a decent player, with the current valuations going around (£30 Million for Carroll) then 5 Mill for this talented, young, English striker is probably about true IMO There are rumoured to be several teams after him but clearly none are prepared to pay over the odds or he would've gone by now. He will probably move at the end of the window for a fee somewhere between what I said and what has been quoted in the rumours.
saint lard Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 Maynard will not be playing for City tonight. Make of that, what you will.
Appy Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 Maynard will not be playing for City tonight. Make of that, what you will. Being rested because it's a nothing game
View From The Top Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 Maynard will not be playing for City tonight. Make of that, what you will. Pretty sure that Leicester will spunk £6m on him, which is crazy money but fair play to BCFC if they get that for him.
LGTL Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 Part of me hopes nobody signs him and he walks away from BC for nothing next year. Would serve them right for being greedy ****s.
The Kraken Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 Pretty sure that Leicester will spunk £6m on him, which is crazy money but fair play to BCFC if they get that for him. The question is though; are we better off with £6M in the bank, or with Maynard on our books? Or Rodriguez, for that matter. If (and its a big if) spending that £6M buys us promotion, then it's £6M well spent. We are the Arsenal conundrum, on a smaller scale of course. We (arguably) have a couple of areas where we need to improve, at CB and CF. Do we spend little on a young player who'll improve over the years? Or spend big on a player who can come in and have an immediate impact? Tough one to call, but I'm almost at the stage where I think it's better to have the player than £6m of cash in the bank.
Thedelldays Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 £6m for a player who will be free in less than 12 months who is a division 2 player also..... that costs as much as hernandez 12 months ago crazy prices and I hope saints dont spend it on maynard
The Kraken Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 £6m for a player who will be free in less than 12 months who is a division 2 player also..... that costs as much as hernandez 12 months ago crazy prices and I hope saints dont spend it on maynard I don't disagree it's overpriced. But are we better off with the money in the bank and not getting a player like that right now, or getting a youngster in who needs to improve? The football market seems to move on at an exponential rate, Hernandez now would probably cost £15 - £20M.
SuperSAINT Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 Leicester + West Ham are the only 2 clubs with owners stupid enough to pay 6m for him.
Dalek2003 Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 6m seems a lot of money nut f we go up to the premier, this word be worth £90 million. I think to some extent our ambition is revealed by our caution in the transfer market. That is to secure our position in the league with the current squad and build gradually within the 5 year framework. Nothing wrong with that at all, but some fans will need to be a bit more patient.
View From The Top Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 The question is though; are we better off with £6M in the bank, or with Maynard on our books? Or Rodriguez, for that matter. If (and its a big if) spending that £6M buys us promotion, then it's £6M well spent. We are the Arsenal conundrum, on a smaller scale of course. We (arguably) have a couple of areas where we need to improve, at CB and CF. Do we spend little on a young player who'll improve over the years? Or spend big on a player who can come in and have an immediate impact? Tough one to call, but I'm almost at the stage where I think it's better to have the player than £6m of cash in the bank. A perfectly sound argument and I find myself in agreement with you but spunking £6m on him doesn't sit comfortably with me for some strange reason and, if I'm honest, my knowledge of NPC players is such that I cannot give a really informed verdict on any of the strikers linked to us/us to them. All I can say is that we deffo, 100% have not made any enquiry for Ebanks-Blake and Wolves have no intention of selling him.
Hopkins Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 6m seems a lot of money nut f we go up to the premier, this word be worth £90 million. I think to some extent our ambition is revealed by our caution in the transfer market. That is to secure our position in the league with the current squad and build gradually within the 5 year framework. Nothing wrong with that at all, but some fans will need to be a bit more patient. Do you have to post that on every thread? Not that I disagree or agree with you but you keep posting the same message.
CanadaSaint Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 There seems to be an assumption that we'd buy him, contract and all. Surely one of the options is to negotiate a new, longer term contract as part of the pre-signing process.
The Kraken Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 A perfectly sound argument and I find myself in agreement with you but spunking £6m on him doesn't sit comfortably with me for some strange reason and, if I'm honest, my knowledge of NPC players is such that I cannot give a really informed verdict on any of the strikers linked to us/us to them. It doesn't for me either. As I said, I'm convinced its the right way to go at all. However, it looks like it's either pay that amount or go without a top Championship striker (at least one that we're currently after). Which is why I wonder if its better to spend money we clearly have, rather than gambling and letting it just sit in the bank. I don't know what the correct answer is. Personally I'd prefer we go for Ebanks-Blake if we're talking that type of money, but you've outlined that situation quite well!!
View From The Top Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 It doesn't for me either. As I said, I'm convinced its the right way to go at all. However, it looks like it's either pay that amount or go without a top Championship striker (at least one that we're currently after). Which is why I wonder if its better to spend money we clearly have, rather than gambling and letting it just sit in the bank. I don't know what the correct answer is. Personally I'd prefer we go for Ebanks-Blake if we're talking that type of money, but you've outlined that situation quite well!! All I can say is that we deffo, 100% have not made any enquiry for Ebanks-Blake and Wolves have no intention of selling him. That comes from the player and MMc.
The Kraken Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 All I can say is that we deffo, 100% have not made any enquiry for Ebanks-Blake and Wolves have no intention of selling him. That comes from the player and MMc. In which case it would be nice to see if a late bid might change their stance.
revolution saint Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 A perfectly sound argument and I find myself in agreement with you but spunking £6m on him doesn't sit comfortably with me for some strange reason and, if I'm honest, my knowledge of NPC players is such that I cannot give a really informed verdict on any of the strikers linked to us/us to them. To be fair I don't think many of us can make a too detailed assessment of most NPC players. I think Maynard's good but 6M worth, probably not. The other thing to remember is NPC strikers are quite hit and miss - the game is littered with ones who have had a decent season and then not lived up to their earlier promise. I'd also rather not pay a premium just because the player is based in England. There must be some very, very good players around for half as much as Maynard is supposed to be worth. Imagine what 4M abroad would get you?
Stattmeister Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 For what it's worth, not in the 18. Am not suggesting this means anything-simply reporting the facts.
whiteleySaint30 Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 For what it's worth, not in the 18. Am not suggesting this means anything-simply reporting the facts. MMMMmmmmm, interesting
itchen_dan Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 For what it's worth, not in the 18. Am not suggesting this means anything-simply reporting the facts. According to their website, he is "injured"
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 According to their website, he is "injured" He's off somewhere then! Still doubt it will be here.
tttdcs Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 Leicester and probably will make his debut against us on saturday.
View From The Top Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 No way will we be paying that sort of coin.
benjii Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 We don't even need a striker so paying well over the odds for one seems like a particularly stupid plan.
The Kraken Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 We don't even need a striker so paying well over the odds for one seems like a particularly stupid plan. Nigel Adkins clearly feels very differently to you about whether we need a striker or not.
benjii Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 Nigel Adkins clearly feels very differently to you about whether we need a striker or not. Not sure how you work that out. We would obviously like to have one, as would I, but only stupid or needy clubs pay silly money for players. We are neither.
The Kraken Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 Not sure how you work that out. We would obviously like to have one, as would I, but only stupid or needy clubs pay silly money for players. We are neither. I'm not sure how you deny it. We've had a £3M plus bid accepted for Sharp, and a rumoured bid in excess of £4.5M turned down by Burnley for Rodriguez. So I theorise from that that adkins want to spend a bit of cash on a striker, and as we haven't spent that sort of money on other position he deems it as a bit of a priority. maybe he's changed his mind as the summer has progressed though, but I don't see it personally. Silly money, yes I agree, £6M for Maynard or Rodriguez is over the odds. But it'd a definite conundrum, is that money better in our bank, or is it worth our while spending it. Particularly if doing so could (massive could here) gain us promotion to the bigger bucks.
benjii Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 I'm not sure how you deny it. We've had a £3M plus bid accepted for Sharp, and a rumoured bid in excess of £4.5M turned down by Burnley for Rodriguez. So I theorise from that that adkins want to spend a bit of cash on a striker, and as we haven't spent that sort of money on other position he deems it as a bit of a priority. maybe he's changed his mind as the summer has progressed though, but I don't see it personally. Silly money, yes I agree, £6M for Maynard or Rodriguez is over the odds. But it'd a definite conundrum, is that money better in our bank, or is it worth our while spending it. Particularly if doing so could (massive could here) gain us promotion to the bigger bucks. I'm not denying we want one. I'm denying we need one. Which is why we won't be shafted over a particular player.
NickG Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 or stay top until January and then get Maynard cheaply?
The Kraken Posted 24 August, 2011 Posted 24 August, 2011 I'm not denying we want one. I'm denying we need one. Which is why we won't be shafted over a particular player. Depends on how you categorise need, I suppose, and what the expectations are. A proper shot at promotion, I think we need another striker for the whole campaign. Who knows, Barnard could be that striker. But I think the fact NA has targetted as an area to spend big money suggests he sees it as an important area to bring in a top player.
Ashby Saint Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 or stay top until January and then get Maynard cheaply? Great if possible but I worry about our strength in depth. We were tiring against Millwall and were fortunate not to have a cup game midweek.
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Its obvious we need a striker, Connolly is never far from an injury, Lambert may burn out (imo) which leaves Barnard who as yet is not fully match conditioned. Guly isn't the answer so imo we NEED a decent striker, Adkins clearly agrees with me.
JoeShmoe Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Its obvious we need a striker, Connolly is never far from an injury, Lambert may burn out (imo) which leaves Barnard who as yet is not fully match conditioned. Guly isn't the answer so imo we NEED a decent striker, Adkins clearly agrees with me. I think we'll get Rodriguez on deadline day, probably for 5m odd. Burnley will sell him to someone
View From The Top Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 I think we'll get Rodriguez on deadline day, probably for 5m odd. Burnley will sell him to someone Probable from what I've heard.
Saint Garrett Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Diego Forlan is going to sign, if not already signed for Inter for 6m euros. Shows how ridiculous the fees are in England at the moment,
hypochondriac Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Diego Forlan is going to sign, if not already signed for Inter for 6m euros. Shows how ridiculous the fees are in England at the moment, Not really considering his age.
capitalsaint Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Probable from what I've heard. Send me your info please.
JustMike Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Not really considering his age. but the fees are ridiculous in England, just look at what Liverpool paid for Henderson, or what Arsenal paid for AOC
hypochondriac Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 but the fees are ridiculous in England, just look at what Liverpool paid for Henderson, or what Arsenal paid for AOC Supply and demand. Young talented English players always sell for a lot more than others. Just look at shearer all those years ago. It's bot really ridiculous to buy Rodriguez for six million because if he continues to progress as seems likely, he will be worth a lot more and any clubs buying him from us in a few years will be paying over the odds then due to his nationality. It's the way it is.
dubai_phil Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 but the fees are ridiculous in England, just look at what Liverpool paid for Henderson, or what Arsenal paid for AOC But both those clubs need to have a percentage of "English" qualified or Academy players, I recall reading somewhere that we don't. We already have (one of) the highest percentages in NpC so we do NOT have to buy English. It helps with team spirit etc but we could find a foreigner.
JustMike Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 But both those clubs need to have a percentage of "English" qualified or Academy players, I recall reading somewhere that we don't. We already have (one of) the highest percentages in NpC so we do NOT have to buy English. It helps with team spirit etc but we could find a foreigner. yep, get that but £20 mill of Henderson! And how much did the pay for Andy Carroll?
beavis17 Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Fourth_Official Fourth Official Leicester's bid for Nicky Maynard will be in the region of £6million, and I believe won't include Waghorn, he's wanted elsewhere #LCFC Crazy if true.
Saint_clark Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Great if possible but I worry about our strength in depth. We were tiring against Millwall and were fortunate not to have a cup game midweek. But we hadn't made any changes for that game, so how does it make any indication of our strength in depth?
hypochondriac Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 But we hadn't made any changes for that game, so how does it make any indication of our strength in depth? I would suggest that we would not have made certain changes whatever the previous result (the likes of lambert are virtually guaranteed a starting spot) simply because we don't have sufficient enough players to replace them with.
shurlock Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 I would suggest that we would not have made certain changes whatever the previous result (the likes of lambert are virtually guaranteed a starting spot) simply because we don't have sufficient enough players to replace them with. Why? Surely it made sense to keep the same side that won so convincingly at Ipswich. We were also able to sub our captain and best player without any major disruption.
Saint Garrett Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 Itkagent1962 ... Still very confident Maynard will be a #LCFC player. Money talks in the end and #BCFC need to strengthen the squad elsewhere. Silly money
Saint_clark Posted 25 August, 2011 Posted 25 August, 2011 I would suggest that we would not have made certain changes whatever the previous result (the likes of lambert are virtually guaranteed a starting spot) simply because we don't have sufficient enough players to replace them with. We have 2, maybe 3 positions, where making a change would weaken us significantly. How many other clubs in this league can make 8/9 changes to a team and still be confident?
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