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He is worth what the demand for him suggests, for instance, there are rumoured to be 3-4 teams after him, why would they want to accept less than what they consider to be A. Worth it and B. What people are prepared to pay ??

 

Yes he is in the last year of his contract but if they are prepared to let that run down than it doesn't really matter. He still has a year to potentially sign a new one, fire them clear of relegation and perhaps even up the league.

 

He is a decent player, with the current valuations going around (£30 Million for Carroll) then 5 Mill for this talented, young, English striker is probably about true IMO

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He is worth what the demand for him suggests, for instance, there are rumoured to be 3-4 teams after him, why would they want to accept less than what they consider to be A. Worth it and B. What people are prepared to pay ??

 

Yes he is in the last year of his contract but if they are prepared to let that run down than it doesn't really matter. He still has a year to potentially sign a new one, fire them clear of relegation and perhaps even up the league.

 

He is a decent player, with the current valuations going around (£30 Million for Carroll) then 5 Mill for this talented, young, English striker is probably about true IMO

 

There are rumoured to be several teams after him but clearly none are prepared to pay over the odds or he would've gone by now. He will probably move at the end of the window for a fee somewhere between what I said and what has been quoted in the rumours.

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Pretty sure that Leicester will spunk £6m on him, which is crazy money but fair play to BCFC if they get that for him.

 

The question is though; are we better off with £6M in the bank, or with Maynard on our books? Or Rodriguez, for that matter. If (and its a big if) spending that £6M buys us promotion, then it's £6M well spent.

 

We are the Arsenal conundrum, on a smaller scale of course. We (arguably) have a couple of areas where we need to improve, at CB and CF. Do we spend little on a young player who'll improve over the years? Or spend big on a player who can come in and have an immediate impact? Tough one to call, but I'm almost at the stage where I think it's better to have the player than £6m of cash in the bank.

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£6m for a player who will be free in less than 12 months who is a division 2 player also.....

that costs as much as hernandez 12 months ago

 

crazy prices and I hope saints dont spend it on maynard

 

I don't disagree it's overpriced. But are we better off with the money in the bank and not getting a player like that right now, or getting a youngster in who needs to improve? The football market seems to move on at an exponential rate, Hernandez now would probably cost £15 - £20M.

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6m seems a lot of money nut f we go up to the premier, this word be worth £90 million.

 

I think to some extent our ambition is revealed by our caution in the transfer market. That is to secure our position in the league with the current squad and build gradually within the 5 year framework. Nothing wrong with that at all, but some fans will need to be a bit more patient.

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The question is though; are we better off with £6M in the bank, or with Maynard on our books? Or Rodriguez, for that matter. If (and its a big if) spending that £6M buys us promotion, then it's £6M well spent.

 

We are the Arsenal conundrum, on a smaller scale of course. We (arguably) have a couple of areas where we need to improve, at CB and CF. Do we spend little on a young player who'll improve over the years? Or spend big on a player who can come in and have an immediate impact? Tough one to call, but I'm almost at the stage where I think it's better to have the player than £6m of cash in the bank.

 

A perfectly sound argument and I find myself in agreement with you but spunking £6m on him doesn't sit comfortably with me for some strange reason and, if I'm honest, my knowledge of NPC players is such that I cannot give a really informed verdict on any of the strikers linked to us/us to them.

 

All I can say is that we deffo, 100% have not made any enquiry for Ebanks-Blake and Wolves have no intention of selling him.

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6m seems a lot of money nut f we go up to the premier, this word be worth £90 million.

 

I think to some extent our ambition is revealed by our caution in the transfer market. That is to secure our position in the league with the current squad and build gradually within the 5 year framework. Nothing wrong with that at all, but some fans will need to be a bit more patient.

 

Do you have to post that on every thread? Not that I disagree or agree with you but you keep posting the same message.

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A perfectly sound argument and I find myself in agreement with you but spunking £6m on him doesn't sit comfortably with me for some strange reason and, if I'm honest, my knowledge of NPC players is such that I cannot give a really informed verdict on any of the strikers linked to us/us to them.

 

It doesn't for me either. As I said, I'm convinced its the right way to go at all. However, it looks like it's either pay that amount or go without a top Championship striker (at least one that we're currently after). Which is why I wonder if its better to spend money we clearly have, rather than gambling and letting it just sit in the bank. I don't know what the correct answer is.

 

Personally I'd prefer we go for Ebanks-Blake if we're talking that type of money, but you've outlined that situation quite well!!

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It doesn't for me either. As I said, I'm convinced its the right way to go at all. However, it looks like it's either pay that amount or go without a top Championship striker (at least one that we're currently after). Which is why I wonder if its better to spend money we clearly have, rather than gambling and letting it just sit in the bank. I don't know what the correct answer is.

 

Personally I'd prefer we go for Ebanks-Blake if we're talking that type of money, but you've outlined that situation quite well!!

 

All I can say is that we deffo, 100% have not made any enquiry for Ebanks-Blake and Wolves have no intention of selling him.

 

That comes from the player and MMc.

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A perfectly sound argument and I find myself in agreement with you but spunking £6m on him doesn't sit comfortably with me for some strange reason and, if I'm honest, my knowledge of NPC players is such that I cannot give a really informed verdict on any of the strikers linked to us/us to them.

 

To be fair I don't think many of us can make a too detailed assessment of most NPC players. I think Maynard's good but 6M worth, probably not. The other thing to remember is NPC strikers are quite hit and miss - the game is littered with ones who have had a decent season and then not lived up to their earlier promise. I'd also rather not pay a premium just because the player is based in England. There must be some very, very good players around for half as much as Maynard is supposed to be worth. Imagine what 4M abroad would get you?

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Nigel Adkins clearly feels very differently to you about whether we need a striker or not.

 

Not sure how you work that out. We would obviously like to have one, as would I, but only stupid or needy clubs pay silly money for players. We are neither.

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Not sure how you work that out. We would obviously like to have one, as would I, but only stupid or needy clubs pay silly money for players. We are neither.

 

 

I'm not sure how you deny it. We've had a £3M plus bid accepted for Sharp, and a rumoured bid in excess of £4.5M turned down by Burnley for Rodriguez. So I theorise from that that adkins want to spend a bit of cash on a striker, and as we haven't spent that sort of money on other position he deems it as a bit of a priority. maybe he's changed his mind as the summer has progressed though, but I don't see it personally.

 

Silly money, yes I agree, £6M for Maynard or Rodriguez is over the odds. But it'd a definite conundrum, is that money better in our bank, or is it worth our while spending it. Particularly if doing so could (massive could here) gain us promotion to the bigger bucks.

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I'm not sure how you deny it. We've had a £3M plus bid accepted for Sharp, and a rumoured bid in excess of £4.5M turned down by Burnley for Rodriguez. So I theorise from that that adkins want to spend a bit of cash on a striker, and as we haven't spent that sort of money on other position he deems it as a bit of a priority. maybe he's changed his mind as the summer has progressed though, but I don't see it personally.

 

Silly money, yes I agree, £6M for Maynard or Rodriguez is over the odds. But it'd a definite conundrum, is that money better in our bank, or is it worth our while spending it. Particularly if doing so could (massive could here) gain us promotion to the bigger bucks.

 

I'm not denying we want one. I'm denying we need one. Which is why we won't be shafted over a particular player.

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I'm not denying we want one. I'm denying we need one. Which is why we won't be shafted over a particular player.

 

Depends on how you categorise need, I suppose, and what the expectations are. A proper shot at promotion, I think we need another striker for the whole campaign. Who knows, Barnard could be that striker. But I think the fact NA has targetted as an area to spend big money suggests he sees it as an important area to bring in a top player.

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Its obvious we need a striker, Connolly is never far from an injury, Lambert may burn out (imo) which leaves Barnard who as yet is not fully match conditioned. Guly isn't the answer so imo we NEED a decent striker, Adkins clearly agrees with me.

 

I think we'll get Rodriguez on deadline day, probably for 5m odd. Burnley will sell him to someone

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but the fees are ridiculous in England, just look at what Liverpool paid for Henderson, or what Arsenal paid for AOC

 

Supply and demand. Young talented English players always sell for a lot more than others. Just look at shearer all those years ago. It's bot really ridiculous to buy Rodriguez for six million because if he continues to progress as seems likely, he will be worth a lot more and any clubs buying him from us in a few years will be paying over the odds then due to his nationality. It's the way it is.

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but the fees are ridiculous in England, just look at what Liverpool paid for Henderson, or what Arsenal paid for AOC

 

But both those clubs need to have a percentage of "English" qualified or Academy players, I recall reading somewhere that we don't. We already have (one of) the highest percentages in NpC so we do NOT have to buy English. It helps with team spirit etc but we could find a foreigner.

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But both those clubs need to have a percentage of "English" qualified or Academy players, I recall reading somewhere that we don't. We already have (one of) the highest percentages in NpC so we do NOT have to buy English. It helps with team spirit etc but we could find a foreigner.

 

yep, get that but £20 mill of Henderson! And how much did the pay for Andy Carroll?

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But we hadn't made any changes for that game, so how does it make any indication of our strength in depth?

 

I would suggest that we would not have made certain changes whatever the previous result (the likes of lambert are virtually guaranteed a starting spot) simply because we don't have sufficient enough players to replace them with.

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I would suggest that we would not have made certain changes whatever the previous result (the likes of lambert are virtually guaranteed a starting spot) simply because we don't have sufficient enough players to replace them with.

 

Why? Surely it made sense to keep the same side that won so convincingly at Ipswich. We were also able to sub our captain and best player without any major disruption.

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I would suggest that we would not have made certain changes whatever the previous result (the likes of lambert are virtually guaranteed a starting spot) simply because we don't have sufficient enough players to replace them with.

 

We have 2, maybe 3 positions, where making a change would weaken us significantly. How many other clubs in this league can make 8/9 changes to a team and still be confident?

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