S-Clarke Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 You're talking about J-rod, right? Not maynard - Bristol C are in a position of weakness. They know that if they don't cash in on him sooner rather than later, he'll walk on a free. We're in a great position really, as you said Bristol City have the fear of losing Maynard on a free, so I expect them to cash in nearer the end of the window, as his value will just decrease from now. Burnley seem to have a price on all of their players heads, which is good for us. Jay Rod will move to us if we offer Burnley what they want, which isn't too much more than we've already offered. Remember, Brendon flood from Burnley is the guy that said Eagles and Mears wern't for sale....then 2 days later they were sold for £3m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 We're in a great position really, as you said Bristol City have the fear of losing Maynard on a free, so I expect them to cash in nearer the end of the window, as his value will just decrease from now. Exactly, I think it would be a bigger shock if Maynard was still at Bristol City come September than not, particularly if they get a going over at Cardiff today - if they look like having a season of struggle he is likely to favour a move sooner rather than later. I doubt any Prem clubs will be interested so if we want him we must have a decent chance of getting him. And if Rodriguez is our preferred target then, as others have noted, having two irons in the fire puts us in a stronger negotiating position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfclegend Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 out of the two, I'd prefer Maynard not that I'd complain if we got Rodriguez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Maynard starts for City today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Keith Millen ahead of the game against Cardiff on Maynard: - He has a year left on his current contract - They've made a 'good offer' to him on a new contract - It's now in the hands of him and his agent (he said his agent first...) - They hope he signs a new contract - Transfer offers so far for him haven't been anywhere near what they'd accept - Those offers came in 'a while ago' - They don't want to lose him - He is a key part of the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Keith Millen ahead of the game against Cardiff on Maynard: - He has a year left on his current contract - They've made a 'good offer' to him on a new contract - It's now in the hands of him and his agent (he said his agent first...) - They hope he signs a new contract - Transfer offers so far for him haven't been anywhere near what they'd accept - Those offers came in 'a while ago' - They don't want to lose him - He is a key part of the team They sound resigned to losing him if I'm honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Keith Millen ahead of the game against Cardiff on Maynard: - He has a year left on his current contract - They've made a 'good offer' to him on a new contract - It's now in the hands of him and his agent (he said his agent first...) - They hope he signs a new contract - Transfer offers so far for him haven't been anywhere near what they'd accept - Those offers came in 'a while ago' - They don't want to lose him - He is a key part of the team He clearly isn't jumping at the chance to stay with them... which is good for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsteven Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Was at a party last night where there was a senior employee of the coaching staff at Bristol City Who confirmed that Saints have made an official offer for Maynard this week. But did also say that it would come down to if the player wanted to come as the owner is more than happy if he stayed and saw out the end of his contract should he not want to sign a new one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Bristol C are being tonked by Cardiff which might help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 ...as the owner is more than happy if he stayed and saw out the end of his contract should he not want to sign a new one! Well he must be a bit of a numpty then. £4-5 million now or nothing in 10 months time......unless he has got more money than sense but City's squad does not indicate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Well he must be a bit of a numpty then. £4-5 million now or nothing in 10 months time......unless he has got more money than sense but City's squad does not indicate that. Stephen Lansdown is no numpty mate. Equity stake in Hargreaves Lansdown, a business he built with a fella who is a numpty was/is worth £650m. He was the brains behind that business & is a decent poker player. How do I know? He has been a client for 20 years!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Maynard has scored for City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Well we should apparently start hearing things on Monday, if we are to believe the Twitter talk. I'd still prefer Ebanks-Blake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Well we should apparently start hearing things on Monday, if we are to believe the Twitter talk. I'd still prefer Ebanks-Blake. He is more proven, but Maynard and Rodriguez would be more hungry, biggest move of their careers so far whereas for Ebanks Blake it would technically be a step down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 well, those (idiots) who said Long is over-rated and not that good and not what we need....need to see the way he has lead the line for WBA...very good indeed.. shame he is not a saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 He is more proven, but Maynard and Rodriguez would be more hungry, biggest move of their careers so far whereas for Ebanks Blake it would technically be a step down. True. It also occurs to me that there's a chance Maynard could be our record signing. If that's the case, our record spend on a single player could be when we're in the second tier, despite 27 years of top flight football. Does that say something about our ambition back then or does that say more about us now? I think it's a bit of both to be honest. well, those (idiots) who said Long is over-rated and not that good and not what we need....need to see the way he has lead the line for WBA...very good indeed.. shame he is not a saint £7 million is too much for a Championship club though, wouldn't you agree? No doubting his talent though as you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Good finish from him today. I can't believe he sees his future at Bristol C though. They look poor and got dicked again today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 Good finish from him today. I can't believe he sees his future at Bristol C though. They look poor and got dicked again today. And their fans sound retarded too. Gert lush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 According to my oppo at Wolves, who has finally got back to me, Blake doesn't want to "take a step backwards" but Wolves have told him he has no future there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 well, those (idiots) who said Long is over-rated and not that good and not what we need....need to see the way he has lead the line for WBA...very good indeed.. shame he is not a saint He was never going to come to us as soon as an EPL side came a calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westmidlandsaint Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 My wolves supporting work colleague thinks Ebanks-Blake would do a good job in Championship but not cut out for prem. Also said he's in trouble at Wolves for not looking after himself over summer & coming back over-weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 well, those (idiots) who said Long is over-rated and not that good and not what we need....need to see the way he has lead the line for WBA...very good indeed.. shame he is not a saint He was alright -nothing special. Happy to bet he won't score many goals. The other lad -Tchoyi- looked much more dangerous and probably bought for a snip of the £7m spent on Long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 My wolves supporting work colleague thinks Ebanks-Blake would do a good job in Championship but not cut out for prem. Also said he's in trouble at Wolves for not looking after himself over summer & coming back over-weight Would much prefer the other 2 TBH. If SEB isnt good enough for Wolves in the prem he won't be good enough for us surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 August, 2011 Share Posted 14 August, 2011 http://mobile.bcfc.co.uk/runtime/bristolcity/article?articleId=2414301 Bristol City Manager after the game. Sounds like its up to Maynard really. Wonder if we are actually keen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 (edited) http://mobile.bcfc.co.uk/runtime/bristolcity/article?articleId=2414301 Bristol City Manager after the game. Sounds like its up to Maynard really. Wonder if we are actually keen? From the bottom...Looking UP... at the rest of the division, the City Board must be pi**ing themselves. Already 6 points down and that following a weak finish last season. Maynard is their ONLY "golden egg" and they desperately need funds to buy - and quickly!. Whether or not Maynard will come to St. Mary's may be another question...but IMHO ..he will certainly leave Bristol ..and soon. Looking at his career stats. He's 4 years younger than Ricky Lambert and has a better overall goal average than RL (goals /games), but if you consider performances in their last clubs ..before moving to us Ricky scored 51 in 128 starts (Bris. Rovers in L1). Although his personal stats. have improved massively since his time at SMS, of course. Nicky Maynard had (acc.to stats.) scored around 40 goals in 100+ games for Bristol City (in CCC). Accepting that CCC is a tougher challenge he is on a similar level to Ricky..but of course for anyone costing £4 million+ ...one would hope that (we/they) would get their money's worth... Looking at it now....Ricky's deal was a steal..... even if £1 million sounded a lot in L1 at that time. Would we get our money's worth ? ..(doubtful in the first season), but if he ended up within (say) 3-5 goals of our eventual topscorer; (Lambert, Connolly, Barnard. Lallana, Guly... or whoever - if it's not him)... then perhaps we'd look for greater things in seasons 2 and 3 ...before saying he was worth the £4 million outlay. IF... he decides to stay at Bristol City he should realise that being the best player in a team at the bottom of the table is no great honour. Edited 15 August, 2011 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 I've heard he has a dodgy Knee. I never knew he had previous injury problems. So prehaps 4-5 million on a player with an on going injury problem is a bit of a gamble. Before I heard about this I was very keen that we sign him now i'm not so sure he is worth the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Rather us go for Yakubu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 (edited) Looking UP at the rest of the division the City Board must be pi**ing themselves. Already 6 points down and that following a weak finish last season. He is their "golden egg" and they need funds to buy - and quickly!. Whether or not Maynard will come to St.Mary's may be another question...but he will certainly go ..and soon IMHO. Being the best player in a team at the bottom of the table is no great honour. "p155ing themselves" = laughing "sh111tting themselves" = worried. HTH. Stupid conspiracy theory of the day, as just invented by me : Saints let Maynard stay at BC for another week to try and weaken Cardiff's title challenge. Edited 15 August, 2011 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 (edited) Whether or not Maynard will come to St. Mary's may be another question...but IMHO ..he will certainly leave Bristol ..and soon. He has to. Just before he left Crewe three years ago he was supposedly being scouted by Boro (then in the Prem) and Bolton. Time is marching on and he must be thinking things are starting to pass him by. Edited 15 August, 2011 by Verbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 "****ing themselves" = laughing "sh111tting themselves" = worried. HTH. Stupid conspiracy theory of the day, as just invented by me : Saints let Maynard stay at BC for another week to try and weaken Cardiff's title challenge. ****ing themselves..I think there are a few geriatrics on the Bristol board, but my meaning was ..very worried! (bottom of the league and all that ....) wait a week longer...? maybe so, just as long as someone else doesn't come in sooner and begin an auction.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 With Ings going to Burnley could he be a replacement to Rodriguez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 With Ings going to Burnley could he be a replacement to Rodriguez? They've already sold half a team though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 I've heard he has a dodgy Knee. I never knew he had previous injury problems. So prehaps 4-5 million on a player with an on going injury problem is a bit of a gamble. Before I heard about this I was very keen that we sign him now i'm not so sure he is worth the risk. OH please let's put that behind us. We've had our share of historically buying "injured" players. Charlie George from Derby cost £600K ....in 1978(!). You can get your vintage pocket calculators out and work out what that might be in today's money. Charlie managed 50-odd games (14 goals) in over 2 years - after his arguement with the lawn mower. Agustin Delgado (a class 1 Rupert Lowe blunder) cost over £3 million in 2002 and played less than a dozen games under Gordon Strachan and disappeared back to South America after almost 2 years ... with no visible financial return. Let's not go too deeply into the cases of Staurt Ripley and John Beresford either... The relative value of record / or at least very big transfer fees for strikers, is difficult to gauge from one decade to another, but with the exception of Ron Davies 1966-1972..the best/most successful strikers Saints have had cost ..fairly small fees OR ..NOTHING at all. Channon, MLT, Paine, George O'Brien.... (there's a message there ...somewhere) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 I've heard he has a dodgy Knee. I never knew he had previous injury problems. So prehaps 4-5 million on a player with an on going injury problem is a bit of a gamble. Before I heard about this I was very keen that we sign him now i'm not so sure he is worth the risk. Doesn`t NA have a background as a physio? I am sure that IF Maynard were to sign, any past injuries would be taken into account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Not that I am encourgaing buying crocked players, but doesn't insurance offest this. Delgado for example, I can't believe we ended up on the hook for everything (especially considering how careful with cash Rupert was). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 I would prefer J Rod to Maynard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Am I the only one who has never even seen this Rodriguez play (or noticed him playing)?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 From what I heard about Maynard's injury - it was a freak, one-off and not one that is likely to recur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Am I the only one who has never even seen this Rodriguez play (or noticed him playing)?! No, I haven't got a clue about him or Maynard. I bow to the expertise of some of the posters on here who obviously have an in-depth first hand knowledge of both players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Am I the only one who has never even seen this Rodriguez play (or noticed him playing)?! You are not the only one by any stretch.. No idea how he plays or whether he has the promise as his supposed price tag indicates. However, I trust NA's judgement on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 I'd never even heard of him until this bloke tweeted about him last week or whenever it was. Only really heard good things about Maynard from a Cardiff fan I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Well i would be happy with Maynard or Rodriguez....but i tell you what Huseklepp was a player who would be a great fit for saints...is a quick forward who can play either wing or up front and is an established international...with Bari in financial trouble...surely he would be a bargain would be gutted if he went to pompey http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11674_7101171,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Am I the only one who has never even seen this Rodriguez play (or noticed him playing)?! Me neither. Mind you, I had never heard of Rickie Lambert until we signed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 if we do end up getting either of these players - NA is not going to pay all that money and then not play them - that means he will have to drop either Connolly or Rickie - I think it would be very unfair and send out wrong message to drop connolly therefore that means leaving our Rickie which I cant see happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 if we do end up getting either of these players - NA is not going to pay all that money and then not play them - that means he will have to drop either Connolly or Rickie - I think it would be very unfair and send out wrong message to drop connolly therefore that means leaving our Rickie which I cant see happening The things is, this isn't a Sunday League side with a load of mates playing together. It doesn't work like that in professional football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 At 6ft 2 in...he would also be a good replacement for Ricky... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Huseklepp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 From the bottom...Looking UP... at the rest of the division, the City Board must be pi**ing themselves. Already 6 points down and that following a weak finish last season. Maynard is their ONLY "golden egg" and they desperately need funds to buy - and quickly!. Whether or not Maynard will come to St. Mary's may be another question...but IMHO ..he will certainly leave Bristol ..and soon. Looking at his career stats. He's 4 years younger than Ricky Lambert and has a better overall goal average than RL (goals /games), but if you consider performances in their last clubs ..before moving to us Ricky scored 51 in 128 starts (Bris. Rovers in L1). Although his personal stats. have improved massively since his time at SMS, of course. Nicky Maynard had (acc.to stats.) scored around 40 goals in 100+ games for Bristol City (in CCC). Accepting that CCC is a tougher challenge he is on a similar level to Ricky..but of course for anyone costing £4 million+ ...one would hope that (we/they) would get their money's worth... Looking at it now....Ricky's deal was a steal..... even if £1 million sounded a lot in L1 at that time. Would we get our money's worth ? ..(doubtful in the first season), but if he ended up within (say) 3-5 goals of our eventual topscorer; (Lambert, Connolly, Barnard. Lallana, Guly... or whoever - if it's not him)... then perhaps we'd look for greater things in seasons 2 and 3 ...before saying he was worth the £4 million outlay. IF... he decides to stay at Bristol City he should realise that being the best player in a team at the bottom of the table is no great honour. Thank Christ MLT never realised this ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 At 6ft 2 in...he would also be a good replacement for Ricky... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Huseklepp And coming from an Italian club we may well be in contention should he leave. Anyone know if he's pacy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 if we do end up getting either of these players - NA is not going to pay all that money and then not play them - that means he will have to drop either Connolly or Rickie - I think it would be very unfair and send out wrong message to drop connolly therefore that means leaving our Rickie which I cant see happening I'd be more worried if I was Barney or Forte to be honest. If all of Connolly, Lambert, Guly, Barney, Forte + 1 new striker are fit...it would be quite surprising if more than 4 of these are in the matchday squad. I also get the impression NA sees Guly as more of a midfielder rather than a forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 15 August, 2011 Share Posted 15 August, 2011 Originally Posted by richardc if we do end up getting either of these players - NA is not going to pay all that money and then not play them - that means he will have to drop either Connolly or Rickie - I think it would be very unfair and send out wrong message to drop connolly therefore that means leaving our Rickie which I cant see happening The things is, this isn't a Sunday League side with a load of mates playing together. It doesn't work like that in professional football. Until I see it actually happen, I would go along with richardc. I heard Adkins say Ricky will be our main striker this season when being quizzed about him not playing during the Liebherr Trophy. I can't believe we are considering paying this type of money on strikers that can only be considered middle of the road, there must be far better value on the continent. I watched Matty Fryatt score for Hull against Leicester at the weekend and just that level of striker would make so much a difference. A striker that can take on defenders without assistance. Give that striker pace and all of a sudden that back line is no longer pushing up so high and they are not looking at your centre forward as an alternative to the goal post as a safe place to leave their chewing gum when they go up for a header. I am petty sure we are looking at an alternative to Connolly rather than Ricky, which may have a lot to do with the opinion of the medical staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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