Miffy Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2415391,00.html NA talks about leaving three players up last night, when defnding corners, to counteract Torquay putting big players in our box. I wasn't at the game, is this what happenend? If so I am delighted, it has been v frustrating over the years when we have pulled everyone back to defend corners, giving us no outlets and allowing the opposition to crowd our box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 I noticed it a couple of times, when we left 3 up, they left 3 back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Lindford Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Yep, 3 left up front with Morgan on the D of the area. Certainly meant Torquay had to leave at least 4 players back and one floating to cover Morgan. Refreshing to see as the OP said it is frustrating when we pull everyone back leaving no outlet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 The other thing that annoys me is when we don`t have anyone at the far side of the box when we have corners. We generally have a big bundle of players in the goal mouth but no-one spare on the far side for a ball hit too hard that sails over everyones head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 The other thing that annoys me is when we don`t have anyone at the far side of the box when we have corners. We generally have a big bundle of players in the goal mouth but no-one spare on the far side for a ball hit too hard that sails over everyones head. My son and I comment about both these things every week. How many corners are over hit?! I think with the man up debate for corners, transition is the new buzz word, so having quick players that break away from the penalty area when corners break down is the current trend, and Saints were using Chamberlain as the out ball for that last season. I assume last night that NA was using the ploy of three up top to allow more space in the area for Bart to collect. I am away so did not get to the game, be interested to hear if Bart did collect more corners last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 should leave 9 up the pitch and just leave Fonte (baby) to defend corners alone! imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Of course it works both ways. If their defence is slow you want to draw them into the box and then break quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Of course it works both ways. If their defence is slow you want to draw them into the box and then break quickly. Ah, but that only works if our players are quicker than theirs. I hate to see everybody pulled back to defend a corner. I think it's better to create a space in the goal area so that the keeper can come and claim the ball. Of course, that only works if you trust your keeper to do so. Is it just a coincidence that Bart was playing last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brussels Saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 This tactic is straight out of the Jose Mourinho Inter Milan coaching manual (not seen yet if he still employs it at Madrid). If this is the standard of coach NA is looking up to and stealing ideas from, we might as well accept relegation now. (do I need to do the smiley winky thing?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 should leave 9 up the pitch and just leave Fonte (baby) to defend corners alone! imho ^This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Funnily enough I recently read an article (can't remember where) which stated the opposite. It said that it was better for the defending team for there to be as many players in the box as possible, as it reduced the space for attackers to run into. It said that teams have a better chance of scoring from a corner if they hold a few players back. Not saying I agree, just that I found it interesting as that seems to have been the approach we've taken over the last season or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 I saw Forest two seasons ago leave 5 up. They had Morgan and some other brute at the back winning everything and they were chasing the game so it made total sense. The opposition didn't know what to do so had loads back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 It's always a bit of a psyche-out if you leave a few players upfield, depends entirely on the match situation and score whether it's a good idea or not though. I've noticed whenever De Ridder plays, as the short fast bloke he gets left on half way on his own much of the time, he was up on his own on Saturday after coming on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 We only left 1 on Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 The other thing that annoys me is when we don`t have anyone at the far side of the box when we have corners. We generally have a big bundle of players in the goal mouth but no-one spare on the far side for a ball hit too hard that sails over everyones head. Actually, I have written to NA pointing that out .. although I'm sure he knew about it already, but no-one has learned to do it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Always thought it makes sense to leave Lallana & the other winger who ever it is on half way to defend corners accept that Rickie & barney are good in our box at set plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 We only left 1 on Saturday Yeh but that's an improvement on previous seasons. Frustrated the hell out of me that we would bring all 10 outfield players back into our own penalty area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 I remember seeing Danny and Rod Wallace score loads of goals following break-aways from corners. Good to hear we are doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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