Mattio Posted 9 August, 2011 Share Posted 9 August, 2011 What a load of sh*t that is... was stood for 20/30 minutes waiting for my money in a queue of about 20 people not moving, the girls behind the til looked like they didn't even know what they were doing. Can we get Ladbrokes back please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 9 August, 2011 Share Posted 9 August, 2011 It's ridiculous; you write your bet (with odds) on a bit of paper, hand it over to the girls who then (both of them) try to decipher what you've written, followed by working out if the odds you've written are correct. With Ladbrokes it was done and dusted in 15 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 9 August, 2011 Share Posted 9 August, 2011 Skate C*nts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Doubt we'll bet in the ground anymore, crappy amatuer skate ****s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 (edited) and a point drop in odds for RL first goal - feels like a definite backward step The Betting Room offers you the best prices in one place from Ladbrokes, William Hill, Betfred and Coral. Well they didn't! Edited 10 August, 2011 by whelk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Agreed. Total joke. Three people all trying to work out what you'd won on ONE CALCULATOR. They need to sort it out, god knows how they coped on Saturday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 They seemed to be making it up as they went along on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Ah, So this is why I use the Corals on Northam high street! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 mate had 3-1 to saints, a tenner, he got 120 quid, but i noticed ladbrokes window had a special b4 the game, a tenner pays 190! thats a massive difference. Why does NC constantly try to fix things that aint broke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamms_schmitz Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 They had no idea. I felt like helping out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 The girls on the counter didn't have a clue what they were doing. They even had to text their boss at one point to get the odds. Surprised Cortese went for such an amateur, tinpot organisation. Won't be using those skate c*nts again. Oh and the odds are sh*t. I'll stick with my on-line accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokingFun Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Easy answer, put your bets on at a bookies before you get in the ground. Inside football grounds is always shorter prices due to a captive audience especially when the bookmaker is an independent. Surely not something to bash NC or Saints with a stick about though given progress we have made on the football side of things?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Easy answer, put your bets on at a bookies before you get in the ground. Inside football grounds is always shorter prices due to a captive audience especially when the bookmaker is an independent. Surely not something to bash NC or Saints with a stick about though given progress we have made on the football side of things?! Cortese out. This is the final straw for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Easy answer, put your bets on at a bookies before you get in the ground. Inside football grounds is always shorter prices due to a captive audience especially when the bookmaker is an independent. Surely not something to bash NC or Saints with a stick about though given progress we have made on the football side of things?! It isn't a direct criticism of the club, more so the suppliers they use. In fact, these new lot may actually be paying more than Ladbrokes used to, as Ladbrokes apparently refused to meet the price demands of Cortese. So there's the possibility that it's actually a good move for the club, in terms of revenues. The down side of course is that, while the Ladbrokes system certainly had it's flaws, their biggest criticism (the waiting times for bets and payouts) has gotten even worse. And now the odds seem pretty poor in comparison too. In any case, the club shouldn't really lose out; they'll get their money from The Betting Room nonetheless. But having such an outdated system and untrained staff for an environment where speed of service is key makes little sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 It isn't a direct criticism of the club, more so the suppliers they use. In fact, these new lot may actually be paying more than Ladbrokes used to, as Ladbrokes apparently refused to meet the price demands of Cortese. So there's the possibility that it's actually a good move for the club, in terms of revenues. The down side of course is that, while the Ladbrokes system certainly had it's flaws, their biggest criticism (the waiting times for bets and payouts) has gotten even worse. And now the odds seem pretty poor in comparison too. In any case, the club shouldn't really lose out; they'll get their money from The Betting Room nonetheless. But having such an outdated system and untrained staff for an environment where speed of service is key makes little sense. You're forgot to add that they are skate ****s to your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 10 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 10 August, 2011 You're forgot to add that they are skate ****s to your post. Are they sh*t at Krap Nottarf aswell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Are they sh*t at Krap Nottarf aswell? Much fewer customers there though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Much fewer customers there though.... With no money to give out on wins, presumably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 It isn't a direct criticism of the club, more so the suppliers they use. In fact, these new lot may actually be paying more than Ladbrokes used to, as Ladbrokes apparently refused to meet the price demands of Cortese. So there's the possibility that it's actually a good move for the club, in terms of revenues. The down side of course is that, while the Ladbrokes system certainly had it's flaws, their biggest criticism (the waiting times for bets and payouts) has gotten even worse. And now the odds seem pretty poor in comparison too. In any case, the club shouldn't really lose out; they'll get their money from The Betting Room nonetheless. But having such an outdated system and untrained staff for an environment where speed of service is key makes little sense. Source ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallington Saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 I agree the service was poor, I had to wait 20 mins after game. Their email is marketing@thebettingroom.co.uk. Probably a good idea to let them know about flaws in their system, and give them a chance to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 It isn't a direct criticism of the club, more so the suppliers they use. In fact, these new lot may actually be paying more than Ladbrokes used to, as Ladbrokes apparently refused to meet the price demands of Cortese. So there's the possibility that it's actually a good move for the club, in terms of revenues. The down side of course is that, while the Ladbrokes system certainly had it's flaws, their biggest criticism (the waiting times for bets and payouts) has gotten even worse. And now the odds seem pretty poor in comparison too. In any case, the club shouldn't really lose out; they'll get their money from The Betting Room nonetheless. But having such an outdated system and untrained staff for an environment where speed of service is key makes little sense. The contract will be costing The Betting Room a fortune (comfortably into five figures), so they'll need to recoup that money through getting enough punters betting with them. Also, where they're such a small company, they'll probably have to recruit temporary staff for matchdays due to the number of booths they have to operate, whereas Ladbrokes used to just use their shop staff as they've got more resources available to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 The contract will be costing The Betting Room a fortune (comfortably into five figures), so they'll need to recoup that money through getting enough punters betting with them. Also, where they're such a small company, they'll probably have to recruit temporary staff for matchdays due to the number of booths they have to operate, whereas Ladbrokes used to just use their shop staff as they've got more resources available to them. I agree. I am surprised the club went with someone so tin-pot, I can only think it can have been motivated by extra money. As I said the queues were by far the worst factor with Ladbrokes, which weren't helped by the fact that the betting kiosks were all run with manual slips. As per the high street stores, this could be speeded up by using the scanners and pre-printed forms. Of course, The Betting Room don't have these; they don't even have the facility for online betting. And no other way to redeem a winning bet than wait for ages Or until the next game) at the ground, take your slip to a shop in Pompey, or mail it by registered delivery. Very poor options for the customer. The Betting Room will only justify their outlay if they can get customers served quicker, and not put them off by long queues and comparitively poor odds. Having a captive audience will only get them so far, they still have to perform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 mate had 3-1 to saints, a tenner, he got 120 quid, but i noticed ladbrokes window had a special b4 the game, a tenner pays 190! thats a massive difference. Why does NC constantly try to fix things that aint broke? TBF, your mate has done well there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 I can imagine an independent cutting the odds on the home team but to have slow and clueless service? That's just ummm, clueless. A lot of the potential action is from blokes who've been down the pub and get in the ground shortly before kick off. Flash up 'x to score 1st and Saints to win 5-1' at odds of 33/1 and still some of em would put a fiver on. Not if they can't actually get served though. At least now perhaps people will use sites like oddschecker.com & bestbetting.com to find the best odds and get their bets on before going to the game. Fancy Saints to win 3-0? Get the best price online. It'll probably be 10 points bigger than at the ground. Putting a tenner on? That's 100 quid more in your sky rocket if you win. Gives you 10 'free' tenner bets over the season. Gotta be done ey? Betting online ain't the same as getting the Nelson Eddies put into your grubby little mits but when the price difference is so big it's gotta be done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 What's the rules about betting on non-televised games these days? Is it just a free-for-all online or in proper shops too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 What's the rules about betting on non-televised games these days? Is it just a free-for-all online or in proper shops too? Singles have been allowed on all games for ages! I do remember the minimum trebles or minimum 5-folds (if you included a home game) though. Was always a pain. I think it mainly stopped when cameras went to every game. It's a lot harder for a game to be fixed (not impossible - but harder....). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK the 2nd Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 Singles have been allowed on all games for ages! I do remember the minimum trebles or minimum 5-folds (if you included a home game) though. Was always a pain. I think it mainly stopped when cameras went to every game. It's a lot harder for a game to be fixed (not impossible - but harder....). Gosh ... you guys are going back years. All changed with the advent of internet betting around 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 I appreciate it's a bit crap but, having not won, I haven't yet had to queue for winnings. Like any operation I suspect they might be having a few launch issues and hope that they can correct after a few weeks. Controversial though it may be, I suggest we give them a few weeks before jerking the knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 I agree. I am surprised the club went with someone so tin-pot, I can only think it can have been motivated by extra money. As I said the queues were by far the worst factor with Ladbrokes, which weren't helped by the fact that the betting kiosks were all run with manual slips. As per the high street stores, this could be speeded up by using the scanners and pre-printed forms. Of course, The Betting Room don't have these; they don't even have the facility for online betting. And no other way to redeem a winning bet than wait for ages Or until the next game) at the ground, take your slip to a shop in Pompey, or mail it by registered delivery. Very poor options for the customer. The Betting Room will only justify their outlay if they can get customers served quicker, and not put them off by long queues and comparitively poor odds. Having a captive audience will only get them so far, they still have to perform. It wouldn't have been for the extra money, but the fact they are local. I remember when Cortese first joined he said he wanted the club to use local businesses to integrate back into the community. It started with the sponsor, now the bookies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 (edited) The problem with betting at football ground is that the bookies cannot use the sort of technology they have in shops. They have to go back to old fashioned systems where the bet is processed and settled manually. The Ladbrokes slips had odds printed so no need for employees to check them, a criticism of 'thebettingroom'. Also despite the queues, Ladbrokes was very efficient, as somebody was sat throughout the game in every booth settling bets as and when things happened during the match. This meant any already winning bets were ready to pay and any losing bets were put to one side. This actually sped up the pay out time at the end of the game. In any case, if you don't like the queues then bet in a shop before the game, otherwise just put up with the fact it is a completely different system and you WILL have to wait around. Edited 10 August, 2011 by SaintNeil90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 I agree. I am surprised the club went with someone so tin-pot, I can only think it can have been motivated by extra money. As I said the queues were by far the worst factor with Ladbrokes, which weren't helped by the fact that the betting kiosks were all run with manual slips. As per the high street stores, this could be speeded up by using the scanners and pre-printed forms. Of course, The Betting Room don't have these; they don't even have the facility for online betting. And no other way to redeem a winning bet than wait for ages Or until the next game) at the ground, take your slip to a shop in Pompey, or mail it by registered delivery. Very poor options for the customer. The Betting Room will only justify their outlay if they can get customers served quicker, and not put them off by long queues and comparitively poor odds. Having a captive audience will only get them so far, they still have to perform. You really think a betting company would use the same form and computers/scanners they use in shops just for a couple of hours work in a stadium every other week. It would cost a fortune and isn't as easy as you seem to think. Like I have said above though, if you aren't a patient person don't bother betting in the stadium, use a shop before the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 The Ladbrokes slips had odds printed so no need for employees to check them, a criticism of 'thebettingroom'. Also despite the queues, Ladbrokes was very efficient, as somebody was sat throughout the game in every booth settling bets as and when things happened during the match. This meant any already winning bets were ready to pay and any losing bets were put to one side. This actually sped up the pay out time at the end of the game. And what's stopping the new guys doing the same? It's perfectly logical to do, doesn't really take a great deal of effort and will improve their efficiency immeasurably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 August, 2011 Share Posted 10 August, 2011 You really think a betting company would use the same form and computers/scanners they use in shops just for a couple of hours work in a stadium every other week. It would cost a fortune and isn't as easy as you seem to think. Like I have said above though, if you aren't a patient person don't bother betting in the stadium, use a shop before the game. Being as I've used bookies in other stadia (and other sports) that are more up to date, I'm pretty sure it's not as complicated as you want to make out. Not simple I imagine, but for a larger company like Ladbrokes I'm sure it wouldn't involve a huge amount of logisitics. And why are you getting uppity about it?! "Don't like it, don't use it then" is a silly statement to make when there are valid criticisms to make. Please tell me what is wrong with wanting a service I've previously used to be better and more efficient. I assume when someone complains about the queues at half-time for beer and food being too long, you tell them "Well don't use them then". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 5 October, 2011 Share Posted 5 October, 2011 Are this mob still around, has it improved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 5 October, 2011 Share Posted 5 October, 2011 God, don't you lot whinge. The strategy of the club is to use local companies for as much as possible. The Betting Room are a local (South Coast) company. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 5 October, 2011 Share Posted 5 October, 2011 Are this mob still around, has it improved? Still not as good as the previous lot. That fat guy in the Northam used to be lightning quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveygwyatt Posted 5 October, 2011 Share Posted 5 October, 2011 tip for you all, open account with paddy power or ladbrokes and down load i phone / android app. I use ladbrokes app, and bet whilst in the ground, I wait for teams to be announced then choose my bets, usually loads of options.... score cast correct score first/last scorer etc... infact more betting options than when ladbrokes were in the ground. No queues either !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 October, 2011 Share Posted 5 October, 2011 God, don't you lot whinge. The strategy of the club is to use local companies for as much as possible. The Betting Room are a local (South Coast) company. End of story. they seem to have a penchant for skate companies these days with the Bettingroom and Bishops printers the most recent additions to their supplier list. Are there no decent Southampton outfits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 October, 2011 Share Posted 5 October, 2011 I'm yet to find a valid reason for betting at a ground. Worse odds, big queues. Why? people forget, then after a few beers at the pub they fancy a tipple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 5 October, 2011 Share Posted 5 October, 2011 I'm yet to find a valid reason for betting at a ground. Worse odds, big queues. Why? Just go to another shop or more sensible, find the best odds online and get it done in seconds?? Makes sense but after a day on the sauce, nothing beats entering the ground with blind, drunk optimism and wacking a tenner on Saints to win 5-1 and Kelvin Davis to score the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Malc Posted 5 October, 2011 Share Posted 5 October, 2011 tip for you all, open account with paddy power or ladbrokes and down load i phone / android app. I use ladbrokes app, and bet whilst in the ground, I wait for teams to be announced then choose my bets, usually loads of options.... score cast correct score first/last scorer etc... infact more betting options than when ladbrokes were in the ground. No queues either !!! If you can get a decent signal on your phone! On Saturday it took over half an hour to place 5 small bets on the Ladbrokes phone app which was pretty tedious. In fact Ladbrokes in the stadium had more options than the phone app as it had special bet A and special bet B as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveygwyatt Posted 5 October, 2011 Share Posted 5 October, 2011 check the bets mate.. ladbrokes app has far more bets than used to be in stadium. I get good signal and place bets very easy. As for special bet (a) etc. Usually saints win 2-0 skates lose 2-0 or south coast special... you know you can put those bets on your self, not exactly difficault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 October, 2011 Share Posted 5 October, 2011 Ladbrokes used to employ proper bookmakers from shops that knew what they were doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Malc Posted 5 October, 2011 Share Posted 5 October, 2011 check the bets mate.. ladbrokes app has far more bets than used to be in stadium. I get good signal and place bets very easy. As for special bet (a) etc. Usually saints win 2-0 skates lose 2-0 or south coast special... you know you can put those bets on your self, not exactly difficault. I, personally, totally disagree with everything you say. But if it works for you........... great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 5 October, 2011 Share Posted 5 October, 2011 Nothing wrong with the new company. I slagged them off at first but their prices are fair and coupon better than the Ladbrokes one and at least has a carbon copy now. Scoring at any time odds being the main addition. (5/4 Rickie always worth a punt) They pay up just as promptly as well so i ahve grown to like them. O2 signal is bloody unreliable in the Kingsland - flits in and out for every game I have been to in last 3 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 6 October, 2011 Share Posted 6 October, 2011 they seem to have a penchant for skate companies these days with the Bettingroom and Bishops printers the most recent additions to their supplier list. Are there no decent Southampton outfits? True true! Obviously not, which is sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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