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there are 2 situations to consider, where will the best place to be to learn your trade and where will you make most money.

If you really are serious about becoming a top player you should think long and hard where you can learn.At 17 playing in the Championship every week would get you ready for the next level.

If money is your first priority then Arsenal is the place to go

 

Arsenal will not throw him in at the deep end - do not be ridiculous he will be brought in slowly and trained at a great academy at the Arsenal. They have a proven track record of bringing in young talent and nuturing it. If playing at a top tier club is the answer then Arsenal is the place to go vice playing at a second tier club - simple. No I am not an Arsenal fan but admire their style of play.

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Arsenal will not throw him in at the deep end - do not be ridiculous he will be brought in slowly and trained at a great academy at the Arsenal. They have a proven track record of bringing in young talent and nuturing it. If playing at a top tier club is the answer then Arsenal is the place to go vice playing at a second tier club - simple. No I am not an Arsenal fan but admire their style of play.

 

Hello Mr Chamberlain, bet your bank manager was happy to see you. If you expect me to insanely happy about a talented youngster leaving then you have rocks in your head. I would wish him well if he had handled the whole thing a bit better and as for Arsenal being the place to go out of all of the top 4 clubs and Liverpool it is the place at the moment I'd least like to be as a youngster. Particularily as a young winger when they have a 100 of them on the books.

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Arsenal will not throw him in at the deep end - do not be ridiculous he will be brought in slowly and trained at a great academy at the Arsenal. They have a proven track record of bringing in young talent and nuturing it. If playing at a top tier club is the answer then Arsenal is the place to go vice playing at a second tier club - simple. No I am not an Arsenal fan but admire their style of play.
playing with their reserves will not give hime the grounding that playing every week in the Championship will.He seems a decent young lad but having more money than sense and the distractions at a young age may well damage him. Money will be the major consideration on the decision IMO.
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Arsenal will not throw him in at the deep end - do not be ridiculous he will be brought in slowly and trained at a great academy at the Arsenal. They have a proven track record of bringing in young talent and nuturing it. If playing at a top tier club is the answer then Arsenal is the place to go vice playing at a second tier club - simple. No I am not an Arsenal fan but admire their style of play.

 

Leaving aside that you sound a bit like Oxo's dad, he's gone to Arsenal at precisely the time that Wenger is being forced to reconsider his ambition to make the club the Crewe Alexandra of the Prem. They HAVE to win trophies the season - the pressure has never been greater, from fans, the board, and the players. I doubt you'll see AOC in any more than an occasional Carling Cup and subs' bench cameo for a couple of seasons yet.

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Arsenal will not throw him in at the deep end - do not be ridiculous he will be brought in slowly and trained at a great academy at the Arsenal. They have a proven track record of bringing in young talent and nuturing it. If playing at a top tier club is the answer then Arsenal is the place to go vice playing at a second tier club - simple. No I am not an Arsenal fan but admire their style of play.
it also seems to me that his father enjoys wallowing in the lads sun. Perhaps not being in the limelight for a long time has been missed.

I am happy as our club has recieved a massive injection of funds and so thank-you Ox, I hope you have made the correct decision(his father)

The Arsenal fans I have spoken to are not that enamored as they want experienced players not potential for this season, not for 5 years time

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playing with their reserves will not give hime the grounding that playing every week in the Championship will.He seems a decent young lad but having more money than sense and the distractions at a young age may well damage him. Money will be the major consideration on the decision IMO.

 

This debate was in full swing on another thread. This regular first team football playing every week stuff is nonsense. Players do not need to be playing every week at 17 in order to develop to their full potential.

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IMO that is an excellent bit of business and whilst I'm sure he will make it to the very top, I would bit their hand of for £12 mil up front + £3m.

As others have said it must surely establish us (if not already) as one of the best clubs in the country for youngsters and ww will hopefully be

able to continue the chain of talent that we are clearly able do.

 

Good luck Alex, Well done Nicola now lets do this thing!

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Leaving aside that you sound a bit like Oxo's dad, he's gone to Arsenal at precisely the time that Wenger is being forced to reconsider his ambition to make the club the Crewe Alexandra of the Prem. They HAVE to win trophies the season - the pressure has never been greater, from fans, the board, and the players. I doubt you'll see AOC in any more than an occasional Carling Cup and subs' bench cameo for a couple of seasons yet.

 

I wish I was his dad! The irrationality of the comments on here astounds me. However you make my point for me - thank you - he will probably only play in the ocassional match - that is how they will bring him on s l o w l y and progressively. S ounds like a good plan to me or am I missing something? Playing for SFC and getting seven bells kicked out of him week in week by donkeys and journeymen on the way down does not sound like such a good plan does it?

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Next! I couldn't care less about what happens to Chamberlain now, no interest whatsoever. If you listen to Wenger or Redknapp you would think that Walcott and Bale were products of their respective academies and not poached - Chamberlain will be just the same. The positive here is the fee, and very well done to Cortese for standing firm and getting a team building sum of money for a young player who has only ever faced third division opposition on a regular basis. The side proved during last season's run in that he was a luxury we could do without, and underlined it emphatically last Saturday.

 

As Adkins has said, no one player is bigger than the club, and our club is what we should focus on. Onwards and upwards...

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Leaving aside that you sound a bit like Oxo's dad, he's gone to Arsenal at precisely the time that Wenger is being forced to reconsider his ambition to make the club the Crewe Alexandra of the Prem. They HAVE to win trophies the season - the pressure has never been greater, from fans, the board, and the players. I doubt you'll see AOC in any more than an occasional Carling Cup and subs' bench cameo for a couple of seasons yet.

 

Which is an excellent way for him to gradually get introduced to top-level Premier League and (potentially) Champions League group games. Although I disagree that he'll only play a handful of games, I think it will be more than that.

 

There are plenty of parallels with AOC and Theo, though AOC played more games for Saints than Theo did (in fact almost twice as many). In Theo's first full season following his transfer he played 30-odd games for Arsenal's first team, many of them as a substitute admittedly, but still an ideal way to introduce a young player to top level football.

 

So, despite all the whingeing going on here, you have to ask yourself: what is the best way to nurture a young player and get him used to a new playing style, a new set of team-mates, and a massive step-up in level from effectively League 1 to top of the Premier League and Europe? is it:

 

Play 40 odd games in a league one level below the league your current side plays in.

 

or

 

Play 30 odd games (some starting, some as a sub) among your new team-mates in the Premier League and Europe, surrounded by international players every day in training, coached by a manager and team who have one of the best histories of bringing through young talent to the top level in recent times.

 

I know which one I'd choose.

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I wish I was his dad!

 

So, if you're not his dad (or closely connected to him), where did you get your "inside information" from last year.....?

 

What I also know for FACT is that NC drove AP very hard however AP had the respect from the changing room. I would therefore surmise AP was pushed before he was jumped. I also know NC is not a nice man (FACT and inside knowledge) and as we now all know exceedingly ruthless.....but I still completely disagree with losing Pardew at this point in the season.

 

Not a fan of Mr Cortese then....? ;-)

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You are a complete and utter sh8t talker - given the chance to move to a prem club in the top 4 or stay at SFC what would you do? Yeah I am sure you would have stayed....NOT you dunce!!! Get real - this is the real world, I despair at some of the complete idiots on this board. You should be wishing the lad well - he did fantastically well for the club last season and we got a cracking load of money. I for one wish him all the very best and Alex if you are reading this board ever (which I sincerely hope you don't or you might think this crazy fool represent genuine fans) - laugh at them all the way to the bank. Do well for us kid...play for England first team....you are a great player in the making - keep you feet on the ground!! Best wishes to you for the future - I will watch with great interest.

 

So you think it's unreasonable for fans to show discontent that a kid we nutured from a very young age was looking for a move within a couple of months of playing for the first team? I think the fee we got is amazing and I'm not that concerned that he left but the principle of young players trying to get away having barely broken into the first time is the annoying part.

 

There is no loyalty in football.....unless you're Adam Lallana

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saints sub can I ask you if you are now no longer following saints and have instead will change your allegence to the gunners

its disappointing he has gone and has had his head turned. I trust you are a genuine saints fan .

Who do you think we should get into improve the team. from my angle I would want to see a players/players who wish to be part of squad and have the team as a priority and not someone who only wants to feed their own ego.

 

AOC's off the bus and there is now a spare seat for someone who whats to be part of saints for the right reasons.

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Arsenal will not throw him in at the deep end - do not be ridiculous he will be brought in slowly and trained at a great academy at the Arsenal. They have a proven track record of bringing in young talent and nuturing it. If playing at a top tier club is the answer then Arsenal is the place to go vice playing at a second tier club - simple. No I am not an Arsenal fan but admire their style of play.

 

Behave. Arsenal have ruined just as many careers as they have saved.

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I don't blame him for moving, but in my eyes anyone that leaves SFC for something better is dead to me. I don't wish him well, but equally I don't wish ill of him. I do though thank his Dad for selecting Saints rather than them down the road, otherwise they'd be the ones £12m richer this morning. Now where's that thread talking about replacements...

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As far as I am concerned, he ceased to exist as he signed on the bottom line. Not interested in other teams players. Dont care if he is successful, dont care if he gets a career-ending injury.

 

24 hours on, the only slight concern I have is that this is the first time we have sold under the Cortese/Liebherr era; I hope this isnt the start of a trend.

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I wish I was his dad! The irrationality of the comments on here astounds me. However you make my point for me - thank you - he will probably only play in the ocassional match - that is how they will bring him on s l o w l y and progressively. S ounds like a good plan to me or am I missing something? Playing for SFC and getting seven bells kicked out of him week in week by donkeys and journeymen on the way down does not sound like such a good plan does it?

 

I don't know what you class as 'irrational'. The only point I'm making is that the tide has gone out at Arsenal for this kind of sign-now-and-develop-later signing. If anything, it shows the enduring power of Wenger in the face of all this pressure on him to win big this season.

 

The reason the signing has not gone down well with Arsenal fans - and on the whole, it seems, it hasn't - is that they want trophies. And to get that, for all their talents, they need players who can deliver now - in all areas (they have problems of one sort or another in so many positions - from hopeless goalkeeping, injury- and accident-prone defenders, want-away midfielders and a thin, injury-prone forward line.)

 

The other thing to bear in mind is that Wenger, despite his reputation, does not have anything like a 100% record in nurturing young talent.

 

I hope AOX does well. It would actually be good for Southampton because it keeps the academy in the forefront of people's minds. But I think the chances of that are only 50/50 at best.

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24 hours on, the only slight concern I have is that this is the first time we have sold under the Cortese/Liebherr era; I hope this isnt the start of a trend.

 

if a player has his head turned and the transfer money is right, then more Saints players will be sold as we go forward. We have been paying huge wages and that's what has kept Lallana here.

 

I'm not sure of your opinion on Morgan, but if he doesn't sign a new deal and leaves on a free that will feel exactly the same as us selling a player to me.

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24 hours on, the only slight concern I have is that this is the first time we have sold under the Cortese/Liebherr era; I hope this isnt the start of a trend.

 

Apart from Puncheon, of course...

 

I hope it is the start of a trend of getting rid of players who don't want to be here. Be it AOC, Puncheon or anybody else. If they are here, they should be committed (on the bus, if you like) and if they aren't, they can leave. If we can extort a ridiculous fee out of it at the same time, happy days.

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Apart from Puncheon, of course...

 

I hope it is the start of a trend of getting rid of players who don't want to be here. Be it AOC, Puncheon or anybody else. If they are here, they should be committed (on the bus, if you like) and if they aren't, they can leave. If we can extort a ridiculous fee out of it at the same time, happy days.

 

Has Puncheon left, then ? I thought he'd been relegated to playing keepie-uppie with the kids.

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if a player has his head turned and the transfer money is right, then more Saints players will be sold as we go forward. We have been paying huge wages and that's what has kept Lallana here.

 

I'm not sure of your opinion on Morgan, but if he doesn't sign a new deal and leaves on a free that will feel exactly the same as us selling a player to me.

 

You know what ? I used to get crap for posting highly negative stuff and sounding like I was revelling in it.

 

I had nothing on this post of yours.

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Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but the 12 million plus 3 million add ons is a stunning enough figure achieved by Don Cortese, but I have also read on quite a few sites that he also managed to get between 30-40 % sell on clause. This could bring in a signifcant amount of money in the future, when Mark Chamberlain realises he needs more money for his "retirement" and that Real Madrid would be a great place for him to "future his career and improve his playing skills".

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Not all that worried. AL is a better player but thank God, Wenger didn't notice........

 

I'm pretty sure wenger did notice. Fortunately for us, Adam Lallana is a character in the MLT mould, saints through and through and with a sense of loyalty and team spirit.

 

I said before that i hope AOC does well at arsenal. I fear that he wont, and will do a theo by sitting on the sidelines during his best years.

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As far as I am concerned, he ceased to exist as he signed on the bottom line. Not interested in other teams players. Dont care if he is successful, dont care if he gets a career-ending injury.

 

24 hours on, the only slight concern I have is that this is the first time we have sold under the Cortese/Liebherr era; I hope this isnt the start of a trend.

 

Could be bonuses for Saints if he and Arsenal do well. So worth keeping an eye on.

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So you think it's unreasonable for fans to show discontent that a kid we nutured from a very young age was looking for a move within a couple of months of playing for the first team? I think the fee we got is amazing and I'm not that concerned that he left but the principle of young players trying to get away having barely broken into the first time is the annoying part.

 

There is no loyalty in football.....unless you're Adam Lallana

 

No sorry I do not think it reasonalble....Adam only stays because of the money FACT. There has been no loyalty in football for a long time....it is their job not a saturday afternoon pass time for the likes of you and me. Money and playing at the highest level possible is what counts, sad but true. Good luck AOC thanks for getting us back in the Championship we owe you and I will applaud you loudly if ever we have the chance to see you at SMS again. The big clubs do this and we will get some cracking players for the money if NC opens the purse strings.

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I'm pretty sure wenger did notice. Fortunately for us, Adam Lallana is a character in the MLT mould, saints through and through and with a sense of loyalty and team spirit.

 

I said before that i hope AOC does well at arsenal. I fear that he wont, and will do a theo by sitting on the sidelines during his best years.

 

As much as I'd like to agree with that, if Arsenal came in with a big bid for Lallana he'd be gone. And I'm not saying he's not loyal, but if you were in a position where you were working a job that you enjoyed, but a much bigger firm with much bigger prospects came in and asked you to join them on 4x your salary, what would you say?

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Good luck AOC thanks for getting us back in the Championship we owe you and I will applaud you loudly if ever we have the chance to see you at SMS again.

 

Good for you. Sadly, I fear you might be in a minority because childish small-mindedness will win the day. God, we've even seen one half wit on here hoping he gets injured.

 

I always admired how the Liverpool fans, for all their faults, would pay their respects to former players - and then rejoice in beating their teams.

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Good for you. Sadly, I fear you might be in a minority because childish small-mindedness will win the day. God, we've even seen one half wit on here hoping he gets injured.

 

I always admired how the Liverpool fans, for all their faults, would pay their respects to former players - and then rejoice in beating their teams.

 

Agree with the broad sentiment- but AOC didn't do enough for us to deserve that kind of respect (i'm not saying I hope he gets injured). Not true of other formers players whose service has been roundly and wrongly fotgotten. Ultimately I'm indifferent to what AOC does - he'll be given the same respect or disrespect that any other opposition player gets. Even though he was with us since a kid, he played so few competitive games that he never really established a bond with me.

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Agree with the broad sentiment- but AOC didn't do enough for us to deserve that kind of respect (i'm not saying I hope he gets injured). Not true of other formers players whose service has been roundly and wrongly fotgotten. Ultimately I'm indifferent to what AOC does - he'll be given the same respect or disrespect that any other opposition player gets. Even though he was with us since a kid, he played so few competitive games that he never really established a bond with me.

 

And I respect that, Shurlock. Treating him like any other opposition player is fine. What I have no time for is the booing and jeering that some see fit to direct at anyone who once played for us, even when they gave us good service. It's childish and immature and it makes us all look that way. It also probably motivates them to play well against us better than their manager ever could, so it's kind of self-defeating as well.

 

Yes, I'm sorry AOC has gone but he was fun to watch, he helped us to get promoted, he brought greater respect to the Club and its Academy, and his time here has left us much better off. Damn right I wish him well.

 

As for the "I hope he gets injured" brigade, they are people with a few screws loose.

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No sorry I do not think it reasonalble....Adam only stays because of the money FACT. There has been no loyalty in football for a long time....it is their job not a saturday afternoon pass time for the likes of you and me. Money and playing at the highest level possible is what counts, sad but true. Good luck AOC thanks for getting us back in the Championship we owe you and I will applaud you loudly if ever we have the chance to see you at SMS again. The big clubs do this and we will get some cracking players for the money if NC opens the purse strings.

 

I'm sure Adam could have got similar money else where and I believe there were other factors in his decision to sign on with Saints for another 4 years....like the fact that he likes it here and wants to help get us back to the prem. Obviously I don't know this as fact but what I do know is that he has been here for years and has never publically tried to instigate a move else where. Particulary when he had only just broken into the first team.

 

I know money talks and that players want to play at the highest level but it's not as if he was in the blue square on 50 quid a week. I'm sure as a 17yr old he was already better off than most on here and I'm sure if he signed a new deal with Saints, we wouldn't have needed for much.

 

I'm not advocating anyone booing him or abusing him but I can see the frustration of some as it's a shame that at the first opportunity he was looking elsewhere. Afterall, this is the team we support and would love nothing more than to have the skill and ability to pull on the shirt in addition to getting paid thousands a week for the privilege.

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We've got very good money for him to be fair but I'd rather have the player than the cash in all honesty. But if a player is really determined to leave in the modern game then in reality there is precious little any football club can do to keep them. Although it's not our problem it seems to me that AOC is exactly the type of player Arsenal do not need at this time - but far be for me the question the wisdom of the great Arsene Wenger's transfer policy.

 

... oops I just did.

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No sorry I do not think it reasonalble....Adam only stays because of the money FACT. There has been no loyalty in football for a long time....it is their job not a saturday afternoon pass time for the likes of you and me. Money and playing at the highest level possible is what counts, sad but true. Good luck AOC thanks for getting us back in the Championship we owe you and I will applaud you loudly if ever we have the chance to see you at SMS again. The big clubs do this and we will get some cracking players for the money if NC opens the purse strings.

 

And has he told you this himself? If not, then it's conjecture and not fact (whether or not you choose to capitalise the word).

 

There are, I would say, very few absolutes in life - things are very rarely as cut and dried as your comment above makes out. It's perfectly possible that a part of the reason that Lallana signed a new contract a few months ago is that he likes being here and playing for Saints. It's also pretty likely that he would be less happy to stay if he weren't paid decent money, and would perhaps seek a move (or at the very least let Adkins and Cortese know that he considered himself underpaid) in those circumstances. My guess would be that it's a combination of being paid well and being happy where he is, but as I say that's just a guess.

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Thanks and good luck Oxo and best wishes for your future career

 

He had kind words to say about saints and we should also reciprocate with kind words of thanks to him and his family

Dont really understand why we have to pick on his father Mark as surely he only wants what all fathers want for thier sons? and anyway he did take Oxo out of Pompey and bring him to us, as a result of which we have made £15m so still a result

 

now we move on and spend some of the money effectively!

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