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alpine_saint

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Chez's attempt to draw parallels between Cortese and Lowe are truly f**king bizarre.

 

The situation is COMPLETELY different.

 

Cortese isnt trying to prop up the share price and dividend for a barely-solvent exchange listed company. And if the rumours about big bids and possibly big signings already being lined up are true, its clear that big transfer fees will be ploughed back into the club by him, rather than being using as income in the accounts to show a profit.

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Arsenal fans are not happy

 

for example clarky1 (arse fan wrote) another kid to add to the list of youngersters who either never play or go out on loan then get sold. I appeciate he may be a hot prospect for the future but it is the NOW we should all be worried about. Wenger you have completely lost the plot. We need experienced defenders and a world class striker - NOT KIDS. Arsene, I'm begging you - PLEASE RESIGN!!!

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forever a red and white

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Really couldn't care less. A very talented playe no doubt and will have no trouble in the prem, but if he really doesn't want to be here and the money is good then there is no good reason not to except it. Adkins continously talks about a positive atmosphere, team spirit and togetherness etc, and we should not allow one quality player within the squad to jepordise that.

 

Slightly irritated by his behaviour but he is young and perhaps ill-advised, and Arsneal is an attractive option.

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A brilliant piece of business strategy. Buy AOC's replacement before he left, so we don't get held to ransom, and we maintain continuity. For those of you expecting the money to be spent straight away, then think again. Part of this has already been spent. This is a business that has to balance its books, and not just in transfers. The investment in the Academy, sports science team etc and the long term deals that many have signed over the summer all need to be financed. Once the dust settles then invest again, buit only IF the the right player is available at the right price.

 

You will get slaughtered, posting a sensible post like that on here!

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Good luck to Chamberlain. Cant hold it against a player wanting to move on. Whether we think he should have stayed another season is irrelevant. Good luck to him and doesnt sound as if we will do too badly from deal. Will only help us strengthen the squad and all said and done, good as he is, he would have made mistakes as well is still learning his trade. Who will be his replacement on the bus?

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I knew he was off sooner than later this week when Nigel was being interviewed yesterday on R5L 'Sportsweek'

and refused to confirm or deny to that annoying little **** Garry Richarson that Oxo was off to the Arse.

His silence spoke a thousand words.

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The9

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My Gooner nemesis just asked me who Ox plays like.

 

I suggested "Shaun Wright-Philips".

 

Unfair or apt?

 

I think that's pretty accurate actually, though SWP has a few more tricks.

 

As for the rest of this thread, I haven't seen such childish petulance since... actually Friday on here with the endless use of "bed-wetter", but anyway. Seriously, we're selling a player, big deal. Unlike the various other times this has happened in the past 15 years, it's going to make barely any negative difference to our on-field performances. This is not losing our game-changing marauding left-back (Bale and Bridge), or our only hope (Theo), it's not even shedding the likes of Beattie. Oxlade-Chamberlain is a talent, and he's an explosive and good young player - but he's barely played for 6 months, during which we've been promoted, beaten a couple of sides from the leagues above us and won our opening game without him against a play-off candidate from last season.

 

I don't see the need to slate the player OR his agent, or Arsenal, or whoever else. The only problem I'd have with this is if we didn't sign 2 or 3 players with the proceeds.

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It was always gonna happen. Just like Bridge, Walcott & Bale - I thought all of them should have had a season longer with us, but the cash was calling. He is clearly an excellent player now with bags of potential. I feel his development would have been better served with us, at least initialy, but his big mouthed father got what he wanted.

Good luck to him, but better luck for us. If we can get 2 or 3 quality players in as replacements that will be great........................

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Hand of Arsenal cleanly bitten off here!

 

Would have loved to see him develop here but 12m is 12m can't argue with such an over the top price as that.

 

Think Wenger has had a slight moment when a young black kid turns up when he'll shout "I WANTED THE WHITE GUY THAT EVERYONE SAID MADE MESSI LOOK ****" mad old man that he is...

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St Marco

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Reading the Arsenal forum i did not realise the level of pressure on Wenger right now. A lot of really angry fans!

 

The thing is it could actually get a lot worse before it get's better. Fab off, Nasri off and then they start the season with Newcastle away, Liverpool at home and then Man Utd away. If they get off to a poor start i think the pressure will become too much and Wenger could walk. Signing a 17 year old kid for £12m who has never played above the third division is a huge gamble. It is a lot of money.

It is understandable why their fans are angry about it. If we did something similar (although on a lot smaller scale) we would all be angry too! It would be like Adkins spending £4m on a player from league two who would then go into our reserves/under 18s squad. You would much rather he spent that on someone who could do a job for us this season.

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Didn't Bridge win the league the season after leaving us? Maybe the season after. But his first year or two at Chelsea he was class.

 

He was older, more established and spent several years learning his trade with Saints, and proabaly took a bit longer to show then AOC. But a valuable apprenticeship. AOC has taken a route that Walcott did and reamins to be seen (and can never be proven) it is best for hsi devlopement. But best for his short term bank balance and car bling fund.............

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Just let him go and take the cash. Let's move on from the lad. Saw his chance at the big time and grabbed it, can't blame him for that.

 

Who should we buy to replace him?

 

I have a feeling we've already signed him.

 

 

 

Agree with your sentiments.

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Reading the Arsenal forum i did not realise the level of pressure on Wenger right now. A lot of really angry fans!

 

The thing is it could actually get a lot worse before it get's better. Fab off, Nasri off and then they start the season with Newcastle away, Liverpool at home and then Man Utd away. If they get off to a poor start i think the pressure will become too much and Wenger could walk. Signing a 17 year old kid for £12m who has never played above the third division is a huge gamble. It is a lot of money.

It is understandable why their fans are angry about it. If we did something similar (although on a lot smaller scale) we would all be angry too! It would be like Adkins spending £4m on a player from league two who would then go into our reserves/under 18s squad. You would much rather he spent that on someone who could do a job for us this season.

 

I think it says a lot about his father that he would happily throw his son into that cauldron.

 

Not only does he have to cope with all the expectations that come along with the price tag - he's also becoming the innocent lightning rod for fan anger with Wenger.

 

Think about the pressure on the kid.

 

If there was any doubt that the father's motivation was purely financial, it's all gone now.

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A player who we didn't miss for 3 months of last season worth near on £10 Million??? Beyond me. The most important time of his career and he will be lost in Arsenals reserves. Shame. If I was an Arse fan I would be livid.

 

Agree- its an absolute f**king steal.

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The Kraken

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Gordon Simpson has re-tweeted:

 

Willing to hold my hands up if wrong info on medical...but still told that line was premature, tho he is at Arsenal & deal close

 

Someone else called arsenaljeff on GS's twitter followers has posted:

 

AoC passed medical. Will wear Number 33.
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Reading the Arsenal forum i did not realise the level of pressure on Wenger right now. A lot of really angry fans!

 

Hardly surprising. Their captain off to Barcelona, Nasri off at the end of the season, Clichy gone, no decent goalkeeper or centre half, forward to partner VP sadly lacking.....oh and they will need a quality midfield player to replace Fabregas.

 

So Wenger buys a 17 year old who has never played above League 1....and that was for half a season.

 

Would you be happy ?

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It's a shame, but if the figures being talked about are true, it's probably the best situation all round. I don't agree with people now coming out and saying we won't miss him, or that he wouldn't get into our side. He is a class player and we will miss him, but it's not a catastrophe. I would be absolutely distraught if we were losing Lallana, who for me is far and away our best and most important player. The signing of De Ridder as a replacement for less than a £1m looks genius now, no chance of us being held to ransom. If AOC and Puncheon are both gone though, we could possibly do with another player who can play wide (unless Holmes is going to miraculously not get injured)

 

Let him go and move on. It's a bloody good time to be Saints fan at the moment and there's a real sense of optimism around the club. Let's not anything ruin that.

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Every player at every club is available at the right price, if the figures quoted 12mill then that is a ridiculous amount for a 17/18yr old only proven at the 3rd tier of English football.I happen to agree with the posts above from St Marco & Canada Saint & ask why his father is putting him into such a position at Arsenal?? Surely Man Utd would be a better club for the lad. The purple nosed emperor is never scared to throw kids into games if they are good enough & he would get a better grounding IMHO at Old Trafford. Arsenal are in a transitional period & Wenger's vision could all go completely pear shaped this season. If they lose Fabregas & Nasri as looks likely & replace them with cheaper unproven foreigners & unproven kids again then it could get ugly at the Emirates this year.

As for the Alex good luck hope it works out for you, but we move on & I don't think we really missed him on Saturday.

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Every player at every club is available at the right price, if the figures quoted 12mill then that is a ridiculous amount for a 17/18yr old only proven at the 3rd tier of English football.I happen to agree with the posts above from St Marco & Canada Saint & ask why his father is putting him into such a position at Arsenal?? Surely Man Utd would be a better club for the lad. The purple nosed emperor is never scared to throw kids into games if they are good enough & he would get a better grounding IMHO at Old Trafford. Arsenal are in a transitional period & Wenger's vision could all go completely pear shaped this season. If they lose Fabregas & Nasri as looks likely & replace them with cheaper unproven foreigners & unproven kids again then it could get ugly at the Emirates this year.

As for the Alex good luck hope it works out for you, but we move on & I don't think we really missed him on Saturday.

 

Prawn sandwiches on the pitch?

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VectisSaint

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Shame to see a young lad go, but 12mill, take the money and run right now. Of course it would be good for him to remain at Saints, but honestly will we miss him if we replace him with some of the Arse money? Probably not, exciting prospect that we will see develop elsewhere after a couple of years bench warming. Lesson to be learned: don't take kid into Academy who has ex-Skate money-grabbing parent, long term it will never work.

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Shame to see a young lad go, but 12mill, take the money and run right now. Of course it would be good for him to remain at Saints, but honestly will we miss him if we replace him with some of the Arse money? Probably not, exciting prospect that we will see develop elsewhere after a couple of years bench warming. Lesson to be learned: don't take kid into Academy who has ex-Skate money-grabbing parent, long term it will never work.

well, it has worked...costs nothing (other than wages) and get £12m for him after 1 season in division 3.....

 

we wont and never will keep all players

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Arsenal fans are not happy

 

for example clarky1 (arse fan wrote) another kid to add to the list of youngersters who either never play or go out on loan then get sold. I appeciate he may be a hot prospect for the future but it is the NOW we should all be worried about. Wenger you have completely lost the plot. We need experienced defenders and a world class striker - NOT KIDS. Arsene, I'm begging you - PLEASE RESIGN!!!

 

Wenger does seem to like the kids ALOT doesn't he ;)

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It's a shame he's off after barely a season but it's a good price for him. On the positive side at least all the negative speculation is over *****il we find another gem). Can we replace him? Well realistically we're never going to get anyone with that talent and potential but de Ridder sounds as if he can fill in pretty well and it gives us a chance to considerably strengthen attack and defence. I'm not happy AOC is off but it's probably the best we could do and we've already proved we can cope without him.

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Hardly surprising. Their captain off to Barcelona, Nasri off at the end of the season, Clichy gone, no decent goalkeeper or centre half, forward to partner VP sadly lacking.....oh and they will need a quality midfield player to replace Fabregas.

 

So Wenger buys a 17 year old who has never played above League 1....and that was for half a season.

 

Would you be happy ?

 

To be fair i think it has a lot to do with timing. I think that has a lot to do with why they are so ****ed off.

In the past Arsenal have done the job on the pitch. When you win things nobody questions your transfers.

If Arsenal had won the league last year then i doubt they would care that Wenger has gone for another kid. But they didn't win it. They imploded. If you formed a table based on the last 8 games of last season Arsenal would of been 14th. They now have a tough game against Udinese to get into the Champions league. That could be without Fab and Nasri because if they become cup tied their value drops a lot. If they get knocked out of the CL before it has really started, lose the first 3 games or fail to win any of them then you have to fear for them.

Every thing Wenger does now will be in the spotlight like never before. They are going into the 7th year without a cup. This will be the 9th season since Arsenal won the league last.

 

The question i think is will being around that kind of pressure actually help Alex to progress? Everytime he steps onto the pitch for Arsenal the fans will be expecting massive things. They will be expecting the same level as someone like Nasri who they also paid £12m for. And as good as the kid could maybe oneday be he is nowhere near that level. It is when you look at it like that when you realise if we get £10m-£12m for him that we actually have done really well. If he progresses or not will not be our problem anymore. If he doesn't then you would have to blame his dad. Is a quick pay cheque more important to him? Based on his comments and that of Alex you would have to say yes it is.

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Gutted to lose Oxo, if our aim is to be in the Premier League in two years or so, not only would he have got us there, he'd have lit it up for us too.

 

That said we will be very quids in with this move, big money that's needed nowhere else but in the playing squad. While I don't envisage too many signings this month, January could be well interesting...

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shame..but it seems he was always going to go...for once, I feel that nearly all of the money will be available to nigel now and in january..

 

I can see us making 1 more signing and another in jan...we also have the loan market should it all go wrong..

 

hope the kid does well......but if this was lallana going, I would have a little cry

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If AOC goes to Arsenal - I feel it is a huge mistake - lets face it - exactly what have they done over the last few seasons - If he wants success sign for Man Utd or Barcelona / Real Madrid even - If he is that good might as well play for the best - AOC is NOT going to change the fact that Arsenal are years behind the above mentioned teams and I personally can't see them hitting the jackpot of a premiership title for a quite a few years to come

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If AOC goes to Arsenal - I feel it is a huge mistake - lets face it - exactly what have they done over the last few seasons - If he wants success sign for Man Utd or Barcelona / Real Madrid even - If he is that good might as well play for the best - AOC is NOT going to change the fact that Arsenal are years behind the above mentioned teams and I personally can't see them hitting the jackpot of a premiership title for a quite a few years to come

 

going to spurs never stopped bale being awesome...

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Whilst not unexpected, I was beginning to believe the fact that we were doing things a little differently from other clubs and selling AOC is a blow to this theory. I really hope we use the money to sign a cracking right winger for competition, a 20 goal a season striker and a solid cb. If we do then we will be in the playoffs no doubt.

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The very fact that the arsenal fans are livid with this deal should tell us that we have just picked their pocket.

 

Not necessarily. In itself it's probably a fair value of his current and future worth, with the market the way it is right now.

 

Arsenal fans are rightly up in arms because it's not the signing they need right now. They clearly have problems at CB and maybe also if Fabregas and Nasri go. Using up to £12M for a non-essential signing while neglecting other key areas that need addressing is what they're getting their knickers in a twist about.

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