Bailey Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 De Ridder? Need two for every position. De Ridder and who for right-midfield? Forte isn't good enough IMO, and Guly is not a winger.
capitalsaint Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 DeRidder? That was quick! Excellent work JustMike. Could you also conjure up a centre back please?
SuperMikey Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Shame if he is going, because he has got untold potential. However, as people have said, if he's had his head turned then it's best to let him go. I reckon we'll get him back on loan for the season though.
SuperSAINT Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Attention now turns to who we get in as a replacement. Needs to be a pacy, direct winger of similar mould to Chamberlain. Not a direct replacement, but would love to add Maynard up top. Adomah was a good shout, earlier.
sambosa75 Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Can't believe his Dad and other "advisors" think Arsenal is a better option than Man Utd. Unlike Walcott, Chamberlain would probably only be the 3rd or 4th player on the teamsheet and a player of his calibre at this moment in time is replaced easily enough. Lets face it, he was always going to leave at some point anyway even if we did get promoted to the Premier League. I trust if he does go that Cortese has got a deal he is happy with. De Ridder looks a good player and judging by Saturday's performance Chaplow also looks capable on the right wing too.
JustMike Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 That was quick! Excellent work JustMike. Could you also conjure up a centre back please? haha ok.... hmmmmm Gorkss?
trousers Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 At least you know with Cortese we won't get ripped off. ^ This
Toomer Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 I thought he was injured? He passed a fitness test on Friday from what I have been told his old man phoned the club and said he (AOX) won't be back, second hand info not sure if any truth in it.
sussexsaint Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Shame if he is going, because he has got untold potential. However, as people have said, if he's had his head turned then it's best to let him go. I reckon we'll get him back on loan for the season though. Has Wenger ever done this out of interest?
Colinjb Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 I just hope the lad doesn't regret going to a club on the wane. He only gets one shot at a career, a move like this will either make or break it.
Nutwood2 Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 What is an Oxlade? Oxbow lakes make no progress at all. Just like all of them. Should have stayed at Southampton!
Mister Neil Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 He passed a fitness test on Friday from what I have been told his old man phoned the club and said he (AOX) won't be back, second hand info not sure if any truth in it. Shame, but it does seem now that the tail very much wags the dog.
revolution saint Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Gordon Simpson reckons AOC is definitely not having a medical today.....wouldn't be the first time everyone else was wrong.
SuperMikey Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Has Wenger ever done this out of interest? No, although he did say he'd be loaning out his young players this season - although that was about 2 months ago now. Doubt he'll chuck Chambo straight into the mixer for the first-team.
rshephard3 Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Attention now turns to who we get in as a replacement. Needs to be a pacy, direct winger of similar mould to Chamberlain. Heard arsenal have a good young prospect in just the mould you just described.... The league cup can be exciting though on a serious note so fair play to him.....
Eaststander Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 A brilliant piece of business strategy. Buy AOC's replacement before he left, so we don't get held to ransom, and we maintain continuity. For those of you expecting the money to be spent straight away, then think again. Part of this has already been spent. This is a business that has to balance its books, and not just in transfers. The investment in the Academy, sports science team etc and the long term deals that many have signed over the summer all need to be financed. Once the dust settles then invest again, buit only IF the the right player is available at the right price.
Wilko Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 We don't need Skate bstrds like him anyway. Onwards and upwards.
david in sweden Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 This has become a distraction I agree but the shame is had he stayed then I am sure he would have played a massive part in us achieving NC's 5-year plan. He is going to be some player you wait and see. I know it will disappoint some people, but a TEAM is more than just one player -isn't it ? We're not expecting to replace Alex with another teenager - are we ? Hopefully... if Nigel has got it right... there be plenty of competition for Alex's shirt.....Forte, Chaplow, Holmes, De Ridder will all be hoping for a move up permanently. They all have good experience and shouldn't be " down-graded " too quickly. Most of the the young starts we've had always start well...we can only hope (for Alex's sake) he has a good career ahead of him, even if it starts on Arsenal's bench occasionally.
Doctoroncall Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Guardian article indicating a £5m now with £5m add ons
The9 Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Doubt it. Smacks of wishful thinking. If we lose Chambo it will be a huge loss psychologically to the team You are the only person that thinks this.
DT Posted 8 August, 2011 Author Posted 8 August, 2011 Personally would prefer a solid centre back like Gorkss or keeper cover/replacement than AOC, anytime.
JustMike Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Guardian article indicating a £5m now with £5m add ons is that £5 mill now and then £5 mill when Fabregas and Nasri go?
Under Weststand Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Its disappointing that he feels at his age he will really improve playing for Arsenal youth & reserve teams. All about the money, so lets get this circus over get the money in & lets get J Rodriguez in from Burnley, And another in CB Gorkss what price Maynard now?? Going to be an interesting few days to come. Just hope we've stuck out for a huge % sell on clause. Perfect replacement already on board in DeRidder so no worries there!
Flyer Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 I think the reason its going through now is that if he moves before his 18th birthday. He counts as an Arsenal youth product for Euro games.
Surman4no7shirt Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 I reckon we'll get him back on loan for the season though. Why do people keep saying that we would get a player back on loan after selling them? It would never happen.
alpine_saint Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Guardian article indicating a £5m now with £5m add ons If that turns out to be true (which I severely doubt) I would question NCs head for business.
Minsk Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Not so fast. I've read many of his posts and when Charlie Wayman starts talking about psychological problems I'm inclined to listen. lol
grammy Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 If, and it's still an if, Chamberlain leaves, is this any different from Lowe selling Walcott? I've read countless times that we are not a selling club (as if) and how great Cortese is for keeping Chamberlain. Well if Alex goes, NC is no better than Lowe on that score is he? By the way I never understood why Lowe was chastised for making good money on a player wanting to leave, so I'm not going to chastise Cortese for it either, but perhaps those that slate Lowe for selling the crown jewels will give it a rest. I have to say I am gutted about this move. Losing Chamberlain is a huge backwards step for us IMO. "Sell and reinvest" is all very well, but we'll struggle to sign anyone as good as him. Having a great team is fine but there is still a requirement for exceptional players to unlock defences and turn draws into wins. Agree with you Chez. I think the fact is that we don't need to sell AOC, but he as made it clear he wants to go to the prem asap so not a lot we can do about that. No point having an unhappy player behind the scenes rocking the bus. I trust NC to get the best possible deal for Saints.
OldNick Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 it may be best that the circus leaves town, we have had it happen so many times it is unsettling to the team. I believe we have a great TEAM ethic and that is all important
saint-crinny Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Problem for us will now be the inflated prices that clubs will demand if we bid for any of their players - they will be well aware that we have at least £5m extra to play with, if not more
Saint Garrett Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Anyone else think he could do a good job in the Prem? Just a thought...
trousers Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 I think the reason its going through now is that if he moves before his 18th birthday. He counts as an Arsenal youth product for Euro games. Incorrect use of full stop mid-sentence, surely?
S-Clarke Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Attention now turns to who we get in as a replacement. Needs to be a pacy, direct winger of similar mould to Chamberlain. Albert Adomah
CanadaSaint Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Problem for us will now be the inflated prices that clubs will demand if we bid for any of their players - they will be well aware that we have at least £5m extra to play with, if not more We've been dealing with that anyway - either we've sold him and we've got a p*sspot full of money or we haven't sold him because we've got a p*sspot full of money.
mattyd Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 A brilliant piece of business strategy. Buy AOC's replacement before he left, so we don't get held to ransom, and we maintain continuity. For those of you expecting the money to be spent straight away, then think again. Part of this has already been spent. This is a business that has to balance its books, and not just in transfers. The investment in the Academy, sports science team etc and the long term deals that many have signed over the summer all need to be financed. Once the dust settles then invest again, buit only IF the the right player is available at the right price. This is why our Chairman has made it clear that we have money. I am sure there will be quick investment with a striker and centre back being a priority. NA has said we are in the market for players and the shirt numbers show this. I do agree however, it will only be players that improve the squad.
toofarnorth Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 BBC reporting likely to be completed later today/early tomorrow http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14448089.stm
Thedelldays Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Doubt it. Smacks of wishful thinking. If we lose Chambo it will be a huge loss psychologically to the team you prove time and time and time again that you have no fuking clue with every post... the one before this when we were going to struggle against leeds as adkins is not up to it and we struggled to beat yeovil you are priceless
jjsaint Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 I've accepted that he may be going, but I feel that £12m (and a hefty sell-on no doubt) is fair. I don't feel that we missed him on Saturday, and provided that we spend at least some of the initial fee on players then I have to admit that this is a good move. Never like the idea of being a 'selling club' but don't feel like we are being shafted this time.
St.Patrik Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Just read on an Arsenal site here in Sweden and they are not happy at all with this deal (if it happends) Since Wenger have promised big name signings before the season starts and Nasri is leaving for Man C... Signing AOC will not shut these people up and be happy again since their pre-season results have been really really poor.
Nexstar Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 simonpeach Simon Peach Just found out the price Arsenal are paying for Alex Chamberlain. Great deal for #SaintsFC, put it that way. Keep you eyes on the PA wire.
Saint Garrett Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 solentsport BBC Radio Solent #Saintsfc update: We gather the reports of Chamberlain's medical at Arsenal are true. £12m move could be wrapped up by the end of the day.
Saint Garrett Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Just read on an Arsenal site here in Sweden and they are not happy at all with this deal (if it happends) Since Wenger have promised big name signings before the season starts and Nasri is leaving for Man C... Signing AOC will not shut these people up and be happy again since their pre-season results have been really really poor. Doesn't get much bigger than having a surname which is 17 letters long !
Saint_lambden Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 £12 million...laughing all the way to the bank.
the wedge Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Update from a trusted journo pal (and Saints fan) who told me that the deal is a fantastic piece of business for us. So I'm happy.
Nexstar Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Arsenal fans seemed annoyed as they've spent so much on a player they feel won't contribute for atleast a season or two. £12m + (Surely?) sell-on fee =
patred44 Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 need two for every position. De ridder and who for right-midfield? Forte isn't good enough imo, and guly is not a winger. puncheon
St Marco Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 If true then i think it shows where him and his dads loyalties lie, with the pay cheque. Which you can't really blame him as that is how football is today. I am sure most of us would do the same thing. But what gripes me is that 12 months ago he was a nobody. The club took a huge gamble putting him in the team ahead of Puncheon who was in the L1 team of the year the previous season. That was the start of the whole Puncheon crying saga. Which still has not been resolved. The club showed a lot of faith and respect in him and that has not been returned by him or his family. He has had one season in the third division and now he is ready to play at the top level in the premier league? I think not. He will sit on the bench and maybe get a few lat 5mins here and there. I hope Cortese sticks to his guns and does not sell him on the cheap i.e £5m now and £5m in 5 years time etc. That does not help us at all. The deal needs to be done from what is best for us not what is best for Alex or Wenger. £7m up front and the rest when either Fab or Nasri go (i.e at the end of the month) would be a good deal. I would also insist for the first year he cannot be loaned out to a championship side. If we then put that cash into getting a fast pacey striker, a replacement winger and a Fonte level CB then i would be pretty happy. Saturday showed we do not rely on AOC. We can get by without him. If losing him gives us a better chance of promotion by re-investing in players to make our weakest areas stronger then i am all for it.
david in sweden Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 (edited) If, and it's still an if, Chamberlain leaves, is this any different from Lowe selling Walcott? I've read countless times that we are not a selling club (as if) and how great Cortese is for keeping Chamberlain. Well if Alex goes, NC is no better than Lowe on that score is he? By the way I never understood why Lowe was chastised for making good money on a player wanting to leave, so I'm not going to chastise Cortese for it either, but perhaps those that slate Lowe for selling the crown jewels will give it a rest. I have to say I am gutted about this move. Losing Chamberlain is a huge backwards step for us IMO. "Sell and reinvest" is all very well, but we'll struggle to sign anyone as good as him. Having a great team is fine but there is still a requirement for exceptional players to unlock defences and turn draws into wins. I'm sure a lot of fans would go along with your sentiments Chez, but to my mind .." not a sellng club " is a phrase from the Dark Ages now. IF a club is strapped for cash, then they have to sell ..to survive. If you have a player who is worth -- so much - and you have a suitable replacement then it's good business. I can recall the uproar when Martin Chivers was sold to Spurs for a British record fee (£125,000 in 1968) but his replacement was a young lad from the Reserves called ...Mick Channon. Then again Alan Shearer's record transfer £3.6 million in 1992 was an offer you couldn't refuse - especially as no other club had that sort of money to fork out and buy him. People forgot we paid 675K for Kevin Davies but the £8 million that Blackburn forked out was another offer we couln't refuse. IF a player of Walcott, or Bale's potential appears, then it is unreasonable to expect them to stay playing CCC level football - if they are genuinely Prem standard. If that is the case with Alex (and we won't know until.... ) I only hope (IF /when ) he moves then he does succeed. One sobering thought is ... that both Walcott and Bale took almost two years to become established in their new sides after they moved. If the same happens to Alex, then he may be anonymous in the Arsenal ranks ....until he turns up in the England squad for the 2014 World Cup. Edited 8 August, 2011 by david in sweden
farawaysaint Posted 8 August, 2011 Posted 8 August, 2011 Really annoyed but not much the club could do here.
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