Saint-scooby Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14435251 WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 Yep. Shocking. There was a quote from one bloke saying "Think this might be our last night in Tottenham. Don't know how they allowed this to happen." Thing is, absent a massive display of force, most riots are almost impossible to stop once the seeds have been planted. First, there is normally a genuine reason for people being aggrieved. Second, people like to break and steal sh*t. They do seem to be more common under a Tory watch, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 I recall Rupert Lowe saying something about "North London yobbos" - was he predicting the future? wooooooo spoooooooky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mao Cap Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 Gonna party like it's 1985... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 Idiots, I bet at least half didn't even know why they were there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 Agreed. I am quite happy to support a bit of structured civil obedience when there's a need, but you could see the vast majority of people there (I watched some if it live last night, including the bit where the Beeb reporter got punched by the sound of it) were just idiots with their hoodies up, swearing at the camera, saying 'brap' and stealing things. It had nothing to do with the bloke who got shot. Worst kind of mob violence, really. Gives good rioting a bad name, frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 Agreed. I am quite happy to support a bit of structured civil obedience when there's a need, but you could see the vast majority of people there (I watched some if it live last night, including the bit where the Beeb reporter got punched by the sound of it) were just idiots with their hoodies up, swearing at the camera, saying 'brap' and stealing things. It had nothing to do with the bloke who got shot. Worst kind of mob violence, really. Gives good rioting a bad name, frankly. Stump up your fiver mate, youd be able to edit your posts. And agrees/w scooby, WTF???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 I was agreeding with Mattio. Plus I stumped up money for a few consecutive years, but really don't play, or have any time / use to play, enough of a role here to pay for it nowadays. And yes. I meant disobedience. Thanks for pointing that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 42 arrested. If found guilty give them 15 years each. Scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 Gives good rioting a bad name, frankly. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-scooby Posted 7 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 7 August, 2011 Google Mark Duggan for images.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 I used to live up that way when I was at uni, Tottenham/Wood green is a sh!t hole. Looks way better in flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 I think this goes hand in hand with society being really peed off at the moment. Protests are more widely common under Tory government. Yes some of it has to do with the bloke that was shot by the police, but most will be society looking for a reason to show they are not happy with a lot of things at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 multiculturalism at its finest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 multiculturalism at its finest Is this anything to do with that? I thought the police just shot dead a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 yeah, who had a shot at the old bill.....bullet lodged in Police radio the BBC reporting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 multiculturalism it most certain twas!! Was a completely peed off society right across the board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 multiculturalism it most certain twas!! Was a completely peed off society right across the board! Not really. No surprise that a certain part of the "community" in that part of London is playing up again, whereas 99% of the rest of us get on with our lives working as hard as we can etc. Absolutely dire area, should nuke the whole lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 are they protesting (some) at the police for shooting dead a man who shot a copper..? really...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 the revolution will not be televised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 Kicking off in Enfield now, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 Initial ballistics tests on the bullet that lodged in a police officer's radio when Mark Duggan died on Thursday night show it was a police issue bullet, the Guardian understands. The Guardian's crime correspondent, Sandra Laville, reports: The revelation will fuel the fury in Tottenham about the killing of Mark Duggan by armed officers. It also undermines suggestions that there was an exchange of fire between Duggan and the police before he died. The bullet which was found lodged in the radio of one of the officers at the scene is still undergoing forensic tests. But reliable sources have said the first ballistics examinations suggested it was a police issue bullet. These are very distinct as the Metropolitan Police uses dum dum type hollowed out bullets designed not to pass through an object. The early suggestion from the IPCC was that the Met officers had returned fire after someone in the minicab opened fire. But the result of the ballistics early test suggests both shots fired came from the police. It's going to get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 multiculturalism at its finest Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 are they protesting (some) at the police for shooting dead a man who shot a copper..? really...? I think there is way more to this than that. Details are still sketchy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 I was agreeding with Mattio. Plus I stumped up money for a few consecutive years, but really don't play, or have any time / use to play, enough of a role here to pay for it nowadays. And yes. I meant disobedience. Thanks for pointing that out. I had worked that one out mate, hence the winky/smiley thing. No offence intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stthrobber Posted 7 August, 2011 Share Posted 7 August, 2011 I think this goes hand in hand with society being really peed off at the moment. Protests are more widely common under Tory government. Yes some of it has to do with the bloke that was shot by the police, but most will be society looking for a reason to show they are not happy with a lot of things at the moment. As with all protests these days, it was hijacked by violent thugs hell bent on causing mayhem. It was probably those on benefits that needed a new 42inch plasma that just happened to be on display in Comet that caused the mindless violence of last night. If the protests are more common under the Tories, I think it's likely at 14 years or so of Labour's rather misguided policies on diversity, multiculturalism, human rights and benefit scroungers and all the other left wing liberal things that have left the vast majority of indigenous Joe Public so hacked off. So far, the Tories have failed to right the wrongs and I think that tempers are flaring because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefunkygibbons Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 Police need to knock some more heads together before someone dies in one of those stupid fires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 Police need to knock some more heads together before someone dies in one of those stupid fires They should have the power to shoot the protestors on sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 They should have the power to shoot the protestors on sight. They're rioters dunce, not protestors. If you had been watching the news/reading the newspapers you would have noticed that the family of the man shot by the police led a peaceful march/protest which, much like the student demos, were hijacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 They should have the power to shoot the protestors on sight.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Anders_Behring_Breivik_in_diving_suit_with_gun_(self_portrait).jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 They're rioters dunce, not protestors. If you had been watching the news/reading the newspapers you would have noticed that the family of the man shot by the police led a peaceful march/protest which, much like the student demos, were hijacked. What have they got to riot/protest about? There was a woman on SKY news saying how many coloured youths are in their 30's and have never worked because the opportunities weren't there for them. Yeah right. They've never worked because they've never wanted to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 What have they got to riot/protest about? There was a woman on SKY news saying how many coloured youths are in their 30's and have never worked because the opportunities weren't there for them. Yeah right. They've never worked because they've never wanted to work. The shooting of an innocent man? Persistant infringements of their right to walk the streets without being harrassed by the police? How about the assumption that all afro-carribbeans are guilty until proven innocent? Or did that escape your Daily Express bubble? This is what they were protesting about in the first instance, and as I've already said, their protest was hijacked. By the way, 'coloured youths? FFS mods, do your ****ing jobs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 The shooting of an innocent man? How do you know he was innocent? If he was, are you really saying that rioting and looting are appropriate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Pedro Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 Calm down dear ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 By the way, 'coloured youths? FFS mods, do your ****ing jobs! It's an accepted non racist term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch of Maycomb Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 How are an innocent society supposed to react when the police start shooting us dead for no reason? The rioters need to kick some copper ass so until they realise they can't just shoot us dead whenever they like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 It's an accepted non racist term. If the year is 1972, yes. Also, ballistic reports from the bullet that hit a police officer's radio before they shot Mark Duggan have shown it was police issue, so Duggan could not have fired it. Which means he was shot illegally, and murdered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 If the year is 1972, yes. Also, ballistic reports from the bullet that hit a police officer's radio before they shot Mark Duggan have shown it was police issue, so Duggan could not have fired it. Which means he was shot illegally, and murdered. In response to renaming the dog in Dambusters: Mervyn Hallam, curator of RAF Scampton museum, today slammed the change and accused Fry of trying to ‘rewrite history’. He said: ‘It’s not a problem with coloured people it’s the people in power creating the problem. Sod their political correctness and sod human rights. ‘They should keep the dog’s name the same – it’s ridiculous that they are trying to rewrite history. His grave is still here with his name on it. ‘What they are trying to do is dishonouring ****** and dishonouring the brave men who flew that mission. ‘We have over 9,000 visitors a year at RAF Scampton and many of them are not native to England but none of them are offended. ‘****** is the name of the dog and that shouldn’t be interfered with. In the context of the time and the film it’s not a racist name.’ So there you go. It's only an unacceptable word for Super Mikey and Super Thorpie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 The home secretary has returned early from holiday I see.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14442935 ....shouldn't she have waited for Miliband to demand her return? I think she's getting ahead of herself here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 In response to renaming the dog in Dambusters: Mervyn Hallam, curator of RAF Scampton museum, today slammed the change and accused Fry of trying to ‘rewrite history’. He said: ‘It’s not a problem with coloured people it’s the people in power creating the problem. Sod their political correctness and sod human rights. ‘They should keep the dog’s name the same – it’s ridiculous that they are trying to rewrite history. His grave is still here with his name on it. ‘What they are trying to do is dishonouring ****** and dishonouring the brave men who flew that mission. ‘We have over 9,000 visitors a year at RAF Scampton and many of them are not native to England but none of them are offended. ‘****** is the name of the dog and that shouldn’t be interfered with. In the context of the time and the film it’s not a racist name.’[/i] So there you go. It's only an unacceptable word for Super Mikey and Super Thorpie. Hmm, but 8 words after he says "coloured people", he says "Sod their political correctness and sod human rights." I can only assume from that statement that he might not be 100% up to date on what's acceptable and what isn't anymore. Are you Mervyn Hallam, dune? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 How do you know he was innocent? If he was, are you really saying that rioting and looting are appropriate? What happened to 'innocent until proven guilty'? Have you even read what I put. I said that the protesting was hijacked, I've never condoned the rioting - please keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 The home secretary has returned early from holiday I see.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14442935 ....shouldn't she have waited for Miliband to demand her return? I think she's getting ahead of herself here. I think he's still recovering from his operation, TBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 What happened to 'innocent until proven guilty'? Have you even read what I put. I said that the protesting was hijacked, I've never condoned the rioting - please keep up. A far left UAF activist that doesn't condone rioting. I've heard it all now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 A far left UAF activist that doesn't condone rioting. I've heard it all now. yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 yawn How can you be tired. You're always on holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 The shooting of an innocent man? Persistant infringements of their right to walk the streets without being harrassed by the police? How about the assumption that all afro-carribbeans are guilty until proven innocent? Well, I think they have demonstrated this weekend why the police do (positively, to catch crims) discriminate with stop and searches et al. This is just outright theft by these people, they have lived up to their stereotypes... and then they went out and did it for a second night. National service for these people in my opinion. Not only are they turning our capital into some kind of american ghetto slum, they are now damaging property which we will now have to pay for - regardless of the drain on our stuggling benefits systems... this is not the behaviour of civilised people, this is the work of savages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 It is slightly amusing that the first thing the "protesters" did was to empty out pc world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 There's no excuse for the riots but the some of the MET are a bunch of racist w@nkers. If you are sick to death of being searched there is not many ways of getting your voice heard after writing the pointless letter to your MP and informing the toothless IPCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 By the way, 'coloured youths? FFS mods, do your ****ing jobs! If the mod's "did their ****ing (why always the aggressions btw?) jobs" you'd be banned for the homophobic comments you made on here directed at me recently. Still genuinely shocked that someone with such a "Alf Garnett" view on same sex relationships can teach children in 2011 Britain, seriously what would you do if a confused 15 year old boy or girl came to you and asked your opinion on a crush they were developing on a school friend of the same sex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 8 August, 2011 Share Posted 8 August, 2011 this is not the behaviour of civilised people, this is the work of savages! It's not just London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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