Roger Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Are we overlooking all of his mistakes because we are at this moment doing well?? I was very much against lowe and have really been thinking cortese is brilliant up to very recently but a line has to be drawn somewhere. Dubious things are: pardew debacle-although adkins looks much better. Banning echo no pictures other than own guy. Not attending 125 years event-poor. Parking charge! Season tickets going up steeply. Players not agreeing terms allegedly. Not a lot of money spent this summer. Putting himself on programme. I think as things are going very well we are tolerating it. However, if they weren't I reckon we wouldn't be happy or maybe we are tired if years battling lowe and haven't got the puff. Opinions? What price success? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 There's already a thread for a cortese-*****fest, we don't need another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 What about the positives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 hahaha....what a **** and yet...near on sell out today...despite what you say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Are we overlooking all of his mistakes because we are at this moment doing well?? I was very much against lowe and have really been thinking cortese is brilliant up to very recently but a line has to be drawn somewhere. Dubious things are: pardew debacle-although adkins looks much better. Banning echo no pictures other than own guy. Not attending 125 years event-poor. Parking charge! Season tickets going up steeply. Players not agreeing terms allegedly. Not a lot of money spent this summer. Putting himself on programme. I think as things are going very well we are tolerating it. However, if they weren't I reckon we wouldn't be happy or maybe we are tired if years battling lowe and haven't got the puff. Opinions? What price success? You mean the one that was nothing to do with the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 6 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Positives= saving club appointing pardew and adkins good buys winter 2010 gaining promotion under him best players signing contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 And all of your points are flawed by the way, but don't let that get in the way of a good Cortese bashing. I believe some people are desperate for things to start going tits up, just so they can justify their outlandish views. This forum represents quite a small % of the fan base, and I'd be inclined to believe that these guys are in the minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 6 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Getting attendances up! Dell days how are u sure we have 29k sold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Oh dear. Chairman sacks underperforming manager shocker Player fails to agree terms shocker Promote club puts up ticket price shocker Etc etc And your 125 year thing is a load of nonsense. What kit did we wear last season? What was written on our badge? And the programme is just f*cking hilarious. I bet we sell more programmed tomorrow than we have for years, everyone is talking about it and what might be inside. When has that ever happened about a matchday programme? Another brilliant move from nicky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Are we overlooking all of his mistakes because we are at this moment doing well?? I was very much against lowe and have really been thinking cortese is brilliant up to very recently but a line has to be drawn somewhere. Dubious things are: pardew debacle-although adkins looks much better. well, you answered your own point Banning echo errr....really.. no pictures other than own guy... so no picture ever other than that of NC...maybe he features heavily in the programme passing on a message Not attending 125 years event-poor... was it a club organised event..? Parking charge!..park outside Season tickets going up steeply...still, we are not the most expensive....keeping lallana, lambert, fonte, OxO costs alot of money...shall we go down the pompey way..? Players not agreeing terms allegedly...allegedly.....yet cork, de ridder, lallana, lambert, davis, fonte, jaidi, connolly all have..??? Not a lot of money spent this summer....you are right...lets do a pompey (or leicester) Putting himself on programme....point above somewhere I think as things are going very well we are tolerating it. However, if they weren't I reckon we wouldn't be happy or maybe we are tired if years battling lowe and haven't got the puff. Opinions? What price success? please....give it a rest....we are on the up for once and have a great bit of team spirit, top players wanting to stay long term etc etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 6 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 6 August, 2011 How do I want things to go wrong? I've had a season ticket for 24 years. Still bought one. But just canvassing opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Great, another negative club bashing thread:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 How do I want things to go wrong? I've had a season ticket for 24 years. Still bought one. But just canvassing opinion well, the opinion in the main is that NC is a great custodian of the club....ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Try this for a dose of reality, ask any Leeds fan today what they think of their chairman and his record and then ask yourself which club is better off. Repeat this procedure at other games during the season and you might come to a slightly different view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFSFC Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Are we overlooking all of his mistakes because we are at this moment doing well?? I was very much against lowe and have really been thinking cortese is brilliant up to very recently but a line has to be drawn somewhere. Dubious things are: pardew debacle-although adkins looks much better. Banning echo no pictures other than own guy. Not attending 125 years event-poor. Parking charge! Season tickets going up steeply. Players not agreeing terms allegedly. Not a lot of money spent this summer. Putting himself on programme. I think as things are going very well we are tolerating it. However, if they weren't I reckon we wouldn't be happy or maybe we are tired if years battling lowe and haven't got the puff. Opinions? What price success? What a total helmet you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 I think Don Cortese will be putting a horses head in you bed.. ha ha ha Think he is quality. COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Try this for a dose of reality, ask any Leeds fan today what they think of their chairman and his record and then ask yourself which club is better off. Repeat this procedure at other games during the season and you might come to a slightly different view. leeds west ham cov derby blackpool (player revolt going on...court cases for non payments of bonuses) brum pompey ffs christ, there are loads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 People knocking Cortese must remember that he is a business man from a money making background. He makes decisions accordingly. He will upset people in his business dealings, and some of those he upsets will be fans. Some decisions may not be the best, and some may bite him and the club on the arse. Thats the nature of business. I would much rather have Cortese at the helm than someone with no business acumen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 6 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Okay. I've not got a problem just balancing put my views if u read positives. Dell says ur right most of the things you say. How did Morgan play at Yeovil as he's usually one if you're favourites and you said Hammond should start? Also as I asked is there defo 29k today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Are we overlooking all of his mistakes because we are at this moment doing well?? I was very much against lowe and have really been thinking cortese is brilliant up to very recently but a line has to be drawn somewhere. Dubious things are: pardew debacle-although adkins looks much better. Banning echo no pictures other than own guy. Not attending 125 years event-poor. Parking charge! Season tickets going up steeply. Players not agreeing terms allegedly. Not a lot of money spent this summer. Putting himself on programme. I think as things are going very well we are tolerating it. However, if they weren't I reckon we wouldn't be happy or maybe we are tired if years battling lowe and haven't got the puff. Opinions? What price success? Don't forget banning season ticket holders with no explanation something which the independent ombudsman said was unacceptable. I wouldn't expect the vast majority on here to accept anything that you say since the only thing a lot care about is winning at any cost. Such a shame but that's modern football for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Okay. I've not got a problem just balancing put my views if u read positives. Dell says ur right most of the things you say. How did Morgan play at Yeovil as he's usually one if you're favourites and you said Hammond should start? Also as I asked is there defo 29k today? morgan was quite good at yeovil...played the whole game...always wanted the ball, and made a few telling passes... I think it will be hammond and cork today.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Don't forget banning season ticket holders with no explanation something which the independent ombudsman said was unacceptable. I wouldn't expect the vast majority on here to accept anything that you say since the only thing a lot care about is winning at any cost. Such a shame but that's modern football for you... a ST holder...and he would be banned from my business they way he goes on...so would you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 But just canvassing opinion Hows that going BTW. Typical bed wetting fan. Subconciously you miss the Lowe days so you could sit around moaning all day. Probably was jubilant when Wilde turned up and "saved" the club. We have a superb Chairman who has turned the club around. He doesnt mind treading on a few toes and from what I can see most of the people he has ****ed off deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 imo this season will be the big test for NC. in the previous 2 seasons we have been successful on the pitch and for one of them we had ML to discuss things with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Are we overlooking all of his mistakes because we are at this moment doing well?? I was very much against lowe and have really been thinking cortese is brilliant up to very recently but a line has to be drawn somewhere. Dubious things are: pardew debacle-although adkins looks much better. Banning echo no pictures other than own guy. Not attending 125 years event-poor. Parking charge! Season tickets going up steeply. Players not agreeing terms allegedly. Not a lot of money spent this summer. Putting himself on programme. I think as things are going very well we are tolerating it. However, if they weren't I reckon we wouldn't be happy or maybe we are tired if years battling lowe and haven't got the puff. Opinions? What price success? Absolutely agree. all of those points listed are clearly more important than the club developing a great infrastructure, building a team of talented individuals and the club finally feeling like its on the up and being run like a premier league side. Get rid of him now i say and bring back all of those other indoviduals that did far better ..... lowe , wilde etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Are we overlooking all of his mistakes because we are at this moment doing well?? I was very much against lowe and have really been thinking cortese is brilliant up to very recently but a line has to be drawn somewhere. Dubious things are: pardew debacle-although adkins looks much better. Banning echo - but admitting his mistake and backtracking, fair play to people admitting when they're wrong no pictures other than own guy. - see above Not attending 125 years event-poor. - 125th anniversary kit + official club event Parking charge! - you don't have to park there + extra revenue stream for club is no bad thing (don't people park there and walk into town centre for work on weekdays?) Season tickets going up steeply. - you'd be moaning more had ST prices stayed the same and we had not got promotion + the recent BBC Price of Football article shows that our prices are nowhere near the most expensive in the league Players not agreeing terms allegedly. Not a lot of money spent this summer. - 1. How do you know? 2. Bids of £3.25m(ish) for Sharp/Maynard reported by club/player themselves? 3. Did you also moan when we didn't spend a lot in January? Putting himself on programme. - do people just enjoy moaning? That's the conclusion I've come to about us Brits. Why not consider what the guy has done for charity (Saints Foundation etc.) before getting your knickers in a twist over him being on the front cover of the preogramme? Keep calm and support the Saints I think as things are going very well we are tolerating it. However, if they weren't I reckon we wouldn't be happy or maybe we are tired if years battling lowe and haven't got the puff. Opinions? What price success? Please see above comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Don't forget banning season ticket holders with no explanation something which the independent ombudsman said was unacceptable. I wouldn't expect the vast majority on here to accept anything that you say since the only thing a lot care about is winning at any cost. Such a shame but that's modern football for you... That was one person. He is a helmet so imo it was a good decision. Yes the ombudsman agreed with him, but not every decision is correct. I mean, someone allowed you back on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Mabes Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 I think considering very few people actually know what cortese is really like, they just see the things he does as positive if they're a half full kinda person, or negative if not. I'd love to fully support cortese but my friend who works within the club has made it very clear he's a power hungry cretin so I'm always a little wary and a little more inclined to believe some of the stranger cortese stories! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Are we overlooking all of his mistakes because we are at this moment doing well?? I was very much against lowe and have really been thinking cortese is brilliant up to very recently but a line has to be drawn somewhere. Dubious things are: pardew debacle-although adkins looks much better. Banning echo no pictures other than own guy. Not attending 125 years event-poor. Parking charge! Season tickets going up steeply. Players not agreeing terms allegedly. Not a lot of money spent this summer. Putting himself on programme. I think as things are going very well we are tolerating it. However, if they weren't I reckon we wouldn't be happy or maybe we are tired if years battling lowe and haven't got the puff. Opinions? What price success? You can please some people all of the time and all people some of the time! Never all of the people all of the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 I genuinely think it is not the chairman that people like but the fact that he has money from the liebherrs which means he can do the positive things. If he had the same level of finance as say Lowe had to deal with then I wonder who would be preferred then looking purely at their approaches. I think it would be a close run thing. (cue a load of posters suggesting I said I would prefer Lowe to cortese which isn't what I said at all.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 6 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Hows that going BTW. Typical bed wetting fan. Subconciously you miss the Lowe days so you could sit around moaning all day. Probably was jubilant when Wilde turned up and "saved" the club. We have a superb Chairman who has turned the club around. He doesnt mind treading on a few toes and from what I can see most of the people he has ****ed off deserve it. manji can weake friends now? I don't miss the lowe days at all. I think cortese is a different level. Who would you play today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 (edited) I genuinely think it is not the chairman that people like but the fact that he has money from the liebherrs which means he can do the positive things. If he had the same level of finance as say Lowe had to deal with then I wonder who would be preferred then looking purely at their approaches. I think it would be a close run thing. (cue a load of posters suggesting I said I would prefer Lowe to cortese which isn't what I said at all.) what has lowe got to do with any of this.. I like NC the good things he has done waaaaay out do the few negative things...you are such a bed wetter.. Brought Leibherr to the save the club run the club in a professional manor and does not pander to fans with big egos does things differently upsets the super fans who feel they need an ear at the club brought in pardew who laid the foundations for an even better prospect (imo) in adkins backed adkins by getting him onboard long term got promoted on his watch won a wembley final on his watch bought players like fonte signed up our best players long term (instead of selling them) will NOT be bullied by arsenal etc about OxO...if he goes it will be for a silly fee and most/all up front saints 125 kit/celebrations saints foundations ST dinners does things his way...no "fan on the board" no special treatment to super fans, no bull**** so no, feck all like lowe Edited 6 August, 2011 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 That was one person. He is a helmet so imo it was a good decision. Yes the ombudsman agreed with him, but not every decision is correct. I mean, someone allowed you back on here. So he has made some wrong decisions. Maybe we have made a breakthrough. I'll ignore the personal and play the ball not the man if that's ok with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 imo this season will be the big test for NC. in the previous 2 seasons we have been successful on the pitch and for one of them we had ML to discuss things with. And if the programme cover is anything to go by then he's up for it. As to being blind to NC - no I'm not. He has good traits and bad ones same as the rest of us but he has been instrumental to where we are now and that is on the up - while that continues I'll not knock him for his (alleged) faux pas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 the good things he has done waaaaay out do the few negative things Nutshell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Are we overlooking all of his mistakes because we are at this moment doing well?? I was very much against lowe and have really been thinking cortese is brilliant up to very recently but a line has to be drawn somewhere. Dubious things are: pardew debacle-although adkins looks much better. - Something was clearly wrong at the beginning of last season, so if you think Cortese was wrong to dismiss AP then you are on your own. Banning echo - Wow, lets get out and protest in anger. What a disgrace. FFS. no pictures other than own guy. - Big fuss over nothing. Not attending 125 years event-poor. - I didn't attend, does that make me a bad guy? Parking charge! - ARE YOU F*****G SERIOUS!? I'm beginning to think you are a wind up. Season tickets going up steeply. - You are seemingly bistfully unaware that we were succesful last season and You'll be pleased to hear we got promoted, hense the increase. Players not agreeing terms allegedly. - FFS. You are losing more respect with each section. Not a lot of money spent this summer. - Are you on a day release? Putting himself on programme. - It's the first game of the season and the feature inside always has the star of the feature on the front. Todays will be Cortese. I think as things are going very well we are tolerating it. However, if they weren't I reckon we wouldn't be happy or maybe we are tired if years battling lowe and haven't got the puff. Opinions? What price success? I cannot believe I spent a second of my life responding to you, but there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 So he has made some wrong decisions. Maybe we have made a breakthrough. I'll ignore the personal and play the ball not the man if that's ok with you. of course he has made wrong decision...name a single chairman, manager, human being that does not....its the big picture..and the few wrong decisons he makes.....illingsworth, echo, pictures etc fall waaaay by the wayside compared to the good he has generally been for the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 I like the fact that Cortese tries to extract the maximum amount of £££ he can from everyone - including Arsenal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Would you prefer he upped and left, the Liebherr's sold the club on, and we ended up being owned by Pinnacle, or a hedge fund? I'm astonished by people who cannot see what a lucky position we're in at the moment. Have a quick search across other teams forums and you'll start to realise what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 How do I want things to go wrong? I've had a season ticket for 24 years. Still bought one. But just canvassing opinion I would suggest you ask people at SMS if they think NC is doing a great job, and you will get a true reflection, you are not getting a true reflection on here, you need to cover the bigger fan base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 what has lowe got to do with any of this.. I like NC the good things he has done waaaaay out do the few negative things...you are such a bed wetter.. Brought Leibherr to the save the club run the club in a professional manor and does not pander to fans with big egos does things differently upsets the super fans who feel they need an ear at the club brought in pardew who laid the foundations for an even better prospect (imo) in adkins backed adkins by getting him onboard long term got promoted on his watch won a wembley final on his watch bought players like fonte signed up our best players long term (instead of selling them) will NOT be bullied by arsenal etc about OxO...if he goes it will be for a silly fee and most/all up front saints 125 kit/celebrations saints foundations ST dinners does things his way...no "fan on the board" no special treatment to super fans, no bull**** so no, feck all like lowe Spot on The hysteria over cortese is ridiculous, and I've yet to see anyone propose an alternative.. how about milky fialka and that tony bloke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 I will do an in-depth and balanced scientific survey of Cortese's popularity around the great pubs of Southampton and surrounding districts. Will report back in due course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 And if the programme cover is anything to go by then he's up for it. As to being blind to NC - no I'm not. He has good traits and bad ones same as the rest of us but he has been instrumental to where we are now and that is on the up - while that continues I'll not knock him for his (alleged) faux pas. SUMS up my view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 please....give it a rest....we are on the up for once and have a great bit of team spirit, top players wanting to stay long term etc etc... plus one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 I don't like the man but as long the club keep going forward I won't let my feelings get in the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 6 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 6 August, 2011 I would suggest you ask people at SMS if they think NC is doing a great job, and you will get a true reflection, you are not getting a true reflection on here, you need to cover the bigger fan base. No dont worry Im not massively pro cortese or massively anti. I just want to know why delldays says that they have sold over 29k cos I am creaming myself about having a big crowd today lo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 No dont worry Im not massively pro cortese or massively anti. I just want to know why delldays says that they have sold over 29k cos I am creaming myself about having a big crowd today lo. because a few people on here claim that many have been sold.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 Don't forget banning season ticket holders with no explanation something which the independent ombudsman said was unacceptable. I wouldn't expect the vast majority on here to accept anything that you say since the only thing a lot care about is winning at any cost. Such a shame but that's modern football for you... Half agree with this, but it was a season ticket holder, and a season ticket holder who has supported Saints for years. Like most on here I do not have a problem with Nick and even though he puts his point across he never represents how I feel about sfc the same as anyone else who speaks to the press. I do not think he should be banned as he is a paying customer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 No dont worry Im not massively pro cortese or massively anti. I just want to know why delldays says that they have sold over 29k cos I am creaming myself about having a big crowd today lo. That's funny I have seen you having a pop at Cortese on other threads so I don't belive you. I put it to you that you are the blind one, who has a specific agenda on cortese... Are you one of the dark forces? I think he should ban you too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 6 August, 2011 Share Posted 6 August, 2011 I will do an in-depth and balanced scientific survey of Cortese's popularity around the great pubs of Southampton and surrounding districts. Will report back in due course... I will do the same today with the people I meet to go to the game with and the people around me at the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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