saint lard Posted 18 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Let's not get carried away; as I mentioned a few posts above, you're only in tenth place for now...... You are of course quite correct,i was just using it to point out there is a long long way to go. *nother thing is,i have predicted us to win all our games,somewhat unlikely but.....??? Strange i should predict these victories if i think the sqaud and adkins not upto the task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 You are of course quite correct,i was just using it to point out there is a long long way to go. *nother thing is,i have predicted us to win all our games,somewhat unlikely but.....??? Strange i should predict these victories if i think the sqaud and adkins not upto the task. Yes it is strange. Especially as you started this thread about how apprehensive you are not too long ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 And here is the reason i no longer pay the fiver,couple that with an attrocious 'product' on a matchday. I have been unable to post due to the 3 post rule in 24hrs,but of course that would not dawn on either of you,or others,even though it clearly states registered user. Well aren't the billy big balls out display when there is an opportunity to points score,lol.Quelle surprise. I strongly suspect this thread would have consigned to the realms of obscurity if our start had not been so bright.Again,quelle surprise. Well, now that all the people who obviously have extra sensory perception could please now give me the lottery numbers. I wish i had been so certain of such a cracking start,but then when this thread started a ball had not been kicked in anger. Damn me for having a cause for slight apprehension,thankfully that has been completely dispelled by the fact we are on a world beating 'unbeaten in the league for 3 games' run. Bloody good start by adkins and all concerned at SFC,long may it continue,especially as i am doing rather well in the prediction league,strange that eh......might as well give me the trophy now...seasons over obviously. Really great start to the campaign,we have the winning habit and hopefully that can be maintained,will be interesting to see how we react after a defeat.....but who knows when that will happen? Keep it up Nigel,looking good early doors,well done. And to those who claim i have not poured enough adulation on NA,i have done so on other sites,as some can vouch,the sites that are free and the server can cope. You might find a little sarcasm in my post,i make no apologies. Well that is another post used up. Carry on ladies,I enjoy the attempts at point scoring,but the only points i care about are the ones acumillated on the pitch. Here is the reason you no longer pay a fiver? Because you don't like it when people make assertations based upon your posting history? Oh bless, I wonder how you would have reacted if, say, someone had called you a f..king tosser nobody? I am not at all surprised you responded to those two posts whilst yet again ignoring the more relevent, fact based ones, posted previously. Why am I not surprised? Because it is your style to do the 'boohoo, they're picking on me' thing, as opposed to holding healthy debate and responding to given facts. But then again, despite your saying you only wanted to debate things in a grown up manner without anyone resorting to childish behaviour your only input was 'I think so because I think so' whilst ignoring valid reasons contrary to your beliefs and then it was YOU who resorted to name calling when you couldn't win an arguement. Maybe it is simply that you don't know how to debate things in a proper, adult, manner? Well, here are some tips: 1. Resorting to posting things like this: 'Well aren't the billy big balls out display when there is an opportunity to points score,lol.Quelle surprise. I strongly suspect this thread would have consigned to the realms of obscurity if our start had not been so bright.Again,quelle surprise,' isn't the way to do so. I mean, in this you are stating that you are surprised by something that hasn't, nor ever will, happened. How is that proving a point? 2. Again posting things like, 'Well, now that all the people who obviously have extra sensory perception could please now give me the lottery numbers,' really doesn't help your cause. To the best of my knowledge, NOBODY predicted we would start the season by winning our first 3 league matches (4 in total) whilst scoring 9 goals (13 in total) including thrashing Ipswich 5-2 away. All some of us said was that we thought we hold our own in this division, something which has yet to be proved - we might yet be wrong, and if so I am sure you will be back to tell us all. 3. Rewriting history is also not a way to go about it. That is so Corp Ho! For example, 'Damn me for having a cause for slight apprehension,thankfully that has been completely dispelled by the fact we are on a world beating 'unbeaten in the league for 3 games' run.' Slight Apprehension? You made some pretty damning accusations early on in this thread. Things like: Adkins will be out thought tactically by the more experienced in this division; Adkins, his coaching staff and the players will underestimate the teams in this division; Chamberlaim, Connolly, Davis, de Ridder, Forte, Guly, Hammond, Jaidi, Lallana, Lambert, Richardson and Seaborne are not good enough to play in this division. That sounds more than 'SLIGHT' apprehension to me. As for your derisory "wolrd beating 'unbeaten in the league for 3 games' run" statement, again, that is so Corp Ho. It is not somply 3 games unbeaten in the league, IT IS A 9 GAME WINNING STREAK. A 'SLIGHT' difference there. 4. This is much better: 'Bloody good start by adkins and all concerned at SFC,long may it continue,especially as i am doing rather well in the prediction league,strange that eh......might as well give me the trophy now...seasons over obviously. Really great start to the campaign,we have the winning habit and hopefully that can be maintained,will be interesting to see how we react after a defeat.....but who knows when that will happen? Keep it up Nigel,looking good early doors,well done.' Except of course for the 'might as well give me the trophy now bit'. (Maybe they gave out trophies for coming 10th where you went to school though?) Nice to see a bit of humility from you and giving Nige a little bit of praise. However, it does 'slightly' contradict you aforementioned 'world beating, 3 games unbeaten' comment. 5. Instead of just responding to posts that don't actually prove anything either way, but just upset you a little bit, you could try responding to ones which actually have some basis to the matter being debated. For example, if someone said they believed the manager would underestimate the opposition and a few days later a quote from the manager is posted catagorically stating that he never does this - is something worth responding to. You are of course quite correct,i was just using it to point out there is a long long way to go. *nother thing is,i have predicted us to win all our games,somewhat unlikely but.....??? Strange i should predict these victories if i think the sqaud and adkins not upto the task. Yes it is strange. Especially as you started this thread about how apprehensive you are not too long ago As for these bits, I know plenty of people who back Saints to lose matches. I know Saints fans who bet on the Skates to win, and Skate fans who do vice versa. It gives them a little something to cheer them when the results go the way they don't really want them to. So, perhaps just a similar 'reverse psycology' thing, is one possible anser? Another possibility is that you were/are not really so apprehensive and are just an attention seeking WUM. And yet another reeason could be that you thought about all the counter arguements given against your 'beliefs' on here and realised that you were wrong; yet, just like Corp Ho, you can never admit to being wrong. Come to think of it, I am sure Corp said he had another personality/user name on here. One who posted primarily on the main board, and occasionally on the Skate takeover one. A user name which he had paid a fiver for, to trick people into thinking he was a Saints fan, but that he wouldn't renew the subscription once it expired. Moreover, the more I read your posts the more you seem as far up your own arse as Corp is up his. But I think this is the final piece of evidence reqired: Corp Ho almost always finishes his posts by calling everyone else on here ladies. And did you finish the post above? - 'Carry on ladies,I enjoy the attempts at point scoring,but the only points i care about are the ones acumillated on the pitch.' Game's up Lardy; Oooops, sorry, Corpy!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 I like the cut of your jib Columbo. I don't think any Saints fan could realistically, unless baiting people, say that they think all of the above players were not good enough for the Championship. Also, unless taking the pi5s for the prediction competition, why predict victories in every single game for the entire season? Even if your ascertain that Lardy is Ho proves to be incorrect, he is an odd kettle of fish regardless, and makes a strange Saints fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billyboy Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Sensible article here. http://www.fanhouse.co.uk/2011/08/18/southampton-norwich-championship-rickie-lambert/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 It's still early days but the start is certainly very encouraging and it appears NA is keeping everyone grounded and is not getting carried away with such a great start to the season, The points scoring and *****iness on this site continues to be a pain in the arse - wish there more posters like Minty..... It's not point scoring at all. It's simply pointing out where someone's argument has been so far off the mark its untrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 It's still early days but the start is certainly very encouraging and it appears NA is keeping everyone grounded and is not getting carried away with such a great start to the season, The points scoring and *****iness on this site continues to be a pain in the arse - wish there more posters like Minty..... Would be a pretty boring site if everyone simply agreed with one another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 No it wouldn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 As has already been mentioned, saint lard is/was Corp Ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 As has already been mentioned, saint lard is/was Corp Ho. What a very sad/strange life he must lead if that is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Probably should have added "probably", as i've no idea really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 [/b] Would be a pretty boring site if everyone simply agreed with one another No one is asking for people to all agree with each other - Do you think I agree with everyone else? Given the breadth of views, that's impossible. I think washsaint simply meant it would be nice if people could respect different views and accept that we're all wrong from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 No it wouldn't I agree with Hutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 [/b] Would be a pretty boring site if everyone simply agreed with one another If our run continues like this, it might be difficult to disagree with anything but the MOST inane posts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 19 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 19 August, 2011 So now i am accused of being Corp Ho,lol. I think some of you need to have administered a rectal diazepam and have a lie down in a darkened room. And you have dedused this by what exactly? On my sons life i have no affilliation with skates or anyone else connected with them. I think my post history on various threads would over the last 5/6 years would show that. I would be quite proud as it would be a fantastic rues for such a long period,especially regarding my aforementioned previous posts. It would almost be funny if it wasn't so sad that some believe it possible. I've predicted another good victory tommorrow,just can't bring myself to back against us,never could,never will. The good run will falter i suspect at some point,just don't want to predict when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 20 August, 2011 Share Posted 20 August, 2011 So now i am accused of being Corp Ho,lol. I think some of you need to have administered a rectal diazepam and have a lie down in a darkened room. And you have dedused this by what exactly? On my sons life i have no affilliation with skates or anyone else connected with them. I think my post history on various threads would over the last 5/6 years would show that. I would be quite proud as it would be a fantastic rues for such a long period,especially regarding my aforementioned previous posts. It would almost be funny if it wasn't so sad that some believe it possible. I've predicted another good victory tommorrow,just can't bring myself to back against us,never could,never will. The good run will falter i suspect at some point,just don't want to predict when. You would say that, wouldn't you Corpy? Or, if you're not Corp Ho.... Does your predicting that Saints would win their matches mean that you now think the likes of Connolly, Lambert, Lallana, et al, ARE good enough for the Championship? Or perhaps you now concede that the players DO respect and play for Adkins? Or that Adkins, and his staff, do not underestinate the opposition? Or that Adkins is more tactically aware than you earlier gave hin credit for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 20 August, 2011 Share Posted 20 August, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 20 August, 2011 Share Posted 20 August, 2011 I think you could apply that to most threads! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 20 August, 2011 Share Posted 20 August, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 2 October, 2011 Share Posted 2 October, 2011 You would say that, wouldn't you Corpy? Or, if you're not Corp Ho.... Does your predicting that Saints would win their matches mean that you now think the likes of Connolly, Lambert, Lallana, et al, ARE good enough for the Championship? Or perhaps you now concede that the players DO respect and play for Adkins? Or that Adkins, and his staff, do not underestinate the opposition? Or that Adkins is more tactically aware than you earlier gave hin credit for? Hmmm, Lardy, you never did answer these questions. Anyway, are you still apprehensive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 25 March, 2012 Share Posted 25 March, 2012 Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 25 March, 2012 Share Posted 25 March, 2012 ANOTHER Lardy zombie thread!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 25 March, 2012 Share Posted 25 March, 2012 We will be champions by March. What a gem. Although intended in his usual sarcasm, Turkish was not far off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 25 March, 2012 Share Posted 25 March, 2012 Would i rush out to buy Lambert,Guly,Hammond,Jaidi,Davis,Connolly,Richardson,Seabourne,Oxo,Forte,i could go on i suspect, and say look a promotion winning side,nope.But that is what we haveat our disposal. Oxo,unproven in the league above,De ridder unproven in English football,Lallana only ever relegated from the Championship. Adkins has no pedigree of success besides league one,Whereas Errikkson and Big Sam have proven credentials in leagues above, and beyond in Errikksons case. Whatever you think of Cotterill he has kept a side in the championship,again more than Adkins has done. Lets just hope it all goes to plan and we have a stunning campaign. But lets just bare in mind,we are just as possible to succombe to struggling as anyone else in this league,i wish i could be in the camp of let's just consolidate but i do want more....but i am not going to be nieve enough to think that cosolidation is a given. I want more of the feeling of success that last season brought i can assure you. This is my all time favourite. The list of players above that he wouldn't sign, to hinting he'd rather have cotterill than Adkins. There's also one somewhere in which he hints he's not confident we can even stay up. Saints lard is a hero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 25 March, 2012 Share Posted 25 March, 2012 This is my all time favourite. The list of players above that he wouldn't sign, to hinting he'd rather have cotterill than Adkins. There's also one somewhere in which he hints he's not confident we can even stay up. Saints lard is a hero To be fair Oxo is still unproven in this league................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 25 March, 2012 Share Posted 25 March, 2012 That was a f-ing hilarious re-read. On some thread somewhere I predicted we'd end up about 12th though, so glass houses and all that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 25 March, 2012 Share Posted 25 March, 2012 Lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 25 March, 2012 Share Posted 25 March, 2012 I still think we can hold our own this season. I think we will finish in the top ten. It will be hard but we might push for a play off place I think the skates will finish in the top two, They are a club on the up . (or should I now say down) !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 March, 2012 Share Posted 25 March, 2012 People didn't trust this squad at the start of the season, and people underestimated how important a 'team' is - rather than big name individual stars. I think we've all had a lesson in that this year. Leicester's squad is expensively assembled, so is West Hams, much more than ours - yet they struggle, Leicester especially, because they haven't that bond and team ethic which breeds success. The lads we have here have been used to winning every week for 3 years, that is huge - don't underestimate what a huge psychological advantage that provides, and it gives players who aren't world beaters an extra 10% which makes them winners. The spine of this team has been together so long, and they're all at good ages too. We've intelligently supplemented the spine with additions such as Jos, Cork, Sharp.....not spending megabucks, because we didn't need to, but buying 1 or 2 players that create competition but don't harm the team spirit. Adkins got the balance spot on and the people jealous of the spending Leicester were doing in August need to have a look at the table now, and appreciate that we did it the right way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperm_john Posted 25 March, 2012 Share Posted 25 March, 2012 call me niave, and likely to be proved wrong, but i dont understand a) why so many people think we are going to finish mid table, b) why people think the squad isnt strong enough and c) why they think cortese, adkins or the squad (including people like ricky lambert who seems so up for this season like its all he's ever wanted to play in the chumpionship) will accept mid table? we could go all the way like norwich, or it could be a tough season, but lets not go in to it assuming we are going to be mid table ...if we can beat leeds saturday surely we can be leicster forest all the rest etc? *retweets* lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 March, 2012 Share Posted 25 March, 2012 We will be champions by March. Almost... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 March, 2012 Share Posted 25 March, 2012 Quite pleased with my opinions again. No club sale, no massive injury crisis (though the one we did have cost us a few games in January) and "a push for promotion in the right circumstances". We also signed a quality partner for Fonte and a striker with Championship or better experience (sort of, in Lee and/or Sharp). Didn't see Lambert's ascendancy to general Championship awesomeness though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 25 March, 2012 Share Posted 25 March, 2012 We will be champions by March.What a great shout that was - so very nearly right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 25 March, 2012 Share Posted 25 March, 2012 Surprised there's been no posts moaning about bringing up an old thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 March, 2012 Share Posted 25 March, 2012 What a great shout that was - so very nearly right! Hardly, it's a mathematical impossibility, and he probably didn't know the season was ending in April this year at the time - thus making it much more likely someone could win the League in March - either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 25 March, 2012 Share Posted 25 March, 2012 I had been thinking about this thread over the past few days bit decided not to resurrect it. However, as it is here............. This is my favourite quote: Do i think the coaching staff will underestimate other sides,you bet ya. Top managers are often undone by underestimating the opposition,Adkins is not yet a top manager but he will come up agaist more tactically aware managers/coaches and this will be a learning curve and the acid test of his abilities outside league one. Even now, Adkins states before every match that he has never and will never unerestimate the opposition. I wonder if he read this thread all those months ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 25 March, 2012 Share Posted 25 March, 2012 Hardly, it's a mathematical impossibility, and he probably didn't know the season was ending in April this year at the time - thus making it much more likely someone could win the League in March - either. Even if made tongue in cheek, it's the most accurate prediction I've seen on this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 25 March, 2012 Share Posted 25 March, 2012 Hardly, it's a mathematical impossibility. No it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 25 March, 2012 Share Posted 25 March, 2012 No it's not. Really? How can we become confirmed champions before April falls? I'm intrigued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted 25 March, 2012 Share Posted 25 March, 2012 Really? How can we become confirmed champions before April falls? I'm intrigued. Well, how about both Reading and West Ham go into administration with massive points penalties, etc...........? Not very likely, but not a "mathematical impossibility" either - I think you'd have to agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 26 March, 2012 Share Posted 26 March, 2012 We will walk this league. Seriously I think we have the squad to beat anyone already, and that's before any additions are made in August and January. Losing Oxo would be a blow, but I think overall people are being over-cautious. Look to finish first this season, anything else, bar relegation battles, is a good season. I should've left off "seriously" at start of the second paragraph, but I'm content with my words. Could anyone have genuinely believed we'd be top by five points with a far superior goal difference at this stage of the season? As Saints fans we could, perhaps, we all want what's best for our team, but if you'd told me to put money on us being top now, I'd have said no. (Unsurprisingly, since I'm a terrible gambler.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 26 March, 2012 Share Posted 26 March, 2012 Thanks for a good reasoned reply, instead of the abuse i often get. I know that the premiership is a very tough league, but so is the Championship if you are newly promoted. I don't think Adkins should be sacked if we finish 17th or 18th as i believe we have still some way to go before we build our championship winning team. Indeed, i am positive that Adkins will learn from this season and consolidation is success. I will try not to moan and slit my wrist after the first couple of defeats. However, I will not bury my head in the sand either. I also think it is fair that if we nail our views and predictions to the mast before the season starts and then are proved right, that we have the right to remind people of this fact. BTW, i will enjoy the season and can't wait. I dream of saints finishing champions, but at the moment i know that this is probably just a dream. So I was proven wrong, but lucky me. Read the last line, I could only but dream ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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