SNSUN Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 The Puncheon offer from QPR for cash + Gorkss got me thinking whether player exchanges are a good idea or a bad idea. I see today in the BBC Gossip column that Tottenham are after Christopher Samba, and are offering cash and any of Defoe, Bassong, Keane or Bentley in exchange. At first glance, I would take all four of those as an exchange deal, but the wages and player's willingness to defer to Blackburn would have to be taken into account. I was racking my brains thinking about the times we have had a player exchanged for one of our players. We all reckon we got stiffed by Tottenham when we pulled off the masterstroke of getting Forecast in as part-exchange for Bale, but I remember at the time with the re-signing of Kevin Davies (and the loss of Ostenstadt) that it seemed like a good deal considering their ages and potential. Graeme Le Saux was a fairly decent stop gap for Bridge's departure to Chelsea too. Are there any more examples of a Saints player-exchange that I've forgotten, and do you think it is a good idea to sign a player in exchange that may not want to be here in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Martin Chivers for Frank Saul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 If a player doesn't want to go to a club then he will simply refuse to do so. QPR cannot force Gorkss to come here. He will only come if HE wants to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Martin Chivers for Frank Saul I know who got the best part of that deal Mike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Stern John for Kenwyne. Beattie for Davies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 memory might be a bit hazy, but was Mark Dennis a player exchange? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 memory might be a bit hazy, but was Mark Dennis a player exchange? Is that you Mark? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huge Baboon Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 I seem to remember that David Speedie was part of the Shearer, though I could be mistaken. Bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huge Baboon Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Shearer sale to Blackburn, that was supposed to read! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 I seem to remember that David Speedie was part of the Shearer, though I could be mistaken. Bad. Think it was speedie and dixon as well. I suppose it seemed like a good idea at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Lee Barnard + £'s for Matt Paterson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huge Baboon Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Think it was speedie and dixon as well. I suppose it seemed like a good idea at the time. I think Dixon was a separate deal from Chelsea, but yes, they were billed as the replacement for Shearer. Speedie was a decent player at the time, if knocking on a bit, but he never really wanted to be here. Dixon was sadly just past his best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Lee Barnard + £'s for Matt Paterson Wasn't it Lee Barnard for Matt Paterson + £'s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Egil Ostenstadt for James Beattie plus Saints got cash! Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Larkin Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Andrew Davies for £s + Anthony Pulis I know the club denied that the two deals were linked, but I don't honestly believe that we would have bought a player as godawful as Pulis unless we were forced to as part of the deal where Davies went Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Egil Ostenstadt for James Beattie plus Saints got cash! Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk IIRC we brought Beattie for 1m with the cash from selling Davies to Blackburn and then swapped Davies for Ostenstad (either with us or them getting some small fee as well) a season or so later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 4 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 4 August, 2011 Overall it sounds like the club selling the key player in the deal most often gets screwed over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 August, 2011 Share Posted 4 August, 2011 (edited) Martin Chivers for Frank Saul Not sure if you've got that the right way round ? Martin Chivers transfer fee (Jan. 1968) was a (then) British club record. (£125,000). Unfortunately, the downside was the highly inflated valuation of Frank Saul.. at £45,000.. based only on the strength of his earlier Cup Final goal (for Spurs). Ted Bates said that selling Chivers was the only transfer deal he was ever sorry about...but it was BIG money in those days. In reality Frank (who was quite a nice guy off the field), was that he only ever scored regularly for Saints in cup games. 61 apps. scored 12 goals (10 in cup games) Saul disappeared off to QPR 18 months later. My selection for "worst deal " was another "record sell " . Alan Shearer to Blackburn for £3.6 million was a record fee in 1992., although when you consider his eventual £15 million sale to Newcastle 4 years later it put him in the Andy Carroll category of sale, and one wishes Saints'd had some sort of " sell-on % " in that deal. The downside to that was that Blackburn sold us "two duds" instead of one. We got David Speedie and Kerry Dixon at a cost of £1 million EACH ...and they scarcely managed 25 games between them before they disappeared. going back a bit ...other "good deals " must have been Cliff Huxford in from Chelsea for the "hot shot " Charlie Livesey in 1959, CH was one of the hardest and fittest men I've seen in a Saints shirt. Nice guy, too. In the middle of the 1965-66 we(sadly) sold top scorer, George O'Brien to Leyton Orient, then but got 20 year old defender David Webb as part of the package. Anyone who saw the exciting, aggressive Webb in action didn't easily forget him. A type of " Dennis Wise style" he helped us win promotion that season, before moving onto Chelsea two years later and later scored a winning goal in an FA Cup Final. Edited 4 August, 2011 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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