Saint-Armstrong Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/news/Be-Pompey-s-Official-12th-Man-2392.aspx Yes, I'm bored and it made me chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 £125? 125. They're obsessed with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 They are so f***ed, that for £125 I'm surprised you can't secure a slot in the starting XI.... Only a matter of time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 I don't get this thread. If you're a Pompey fan it looks like quite a good deal for that price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Please explain why offering fans a deal like this means they are desperate and f*cked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Seems a great way for one lucky fan to tell their grandchildren that they were there when Portsmouth had a football team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 I don't get this thread. If you're a Pompey fan it looks like quite a good deal for that price. Have to agree. 2 x tickets £60 Home shirt & printing £45 Programme £3 That's close to £110 on its own. Sounds a very good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 They're actually doing some fairly good deals for their fans. A good mate of mine was a ST holder there but hasn't renewed this year due to work commitments. But he's bought their 'super 6' deal. £145 for 6 home games of choice before Xmas, which includes the game against us. That's quite a big selling point for them as it guarantees them a ticket for the derby game well in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanthemanfairoak Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 ]sales of the new pompey shirt are not goin to well at the moment only 1750 SOLD SO FAR , source pompey shop lady, [only member of staff] in dvla office portsmouth taxin her car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landford.saint Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 ]sales of the new pompey shirt are not goin to well at the moment only 1750 SOLD SO FAR , source pompey shop lady, [only member of staff] in dvla office portsmouth taxin her car. Obviously not from Pompey as she is taxing HER car. Ie it's het car and not stolen. It must be roadworthy (mot and insurance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Please explain why offering fans a deal like this means they are desperate and f*cked. Exactly, for the social retard in your life it's the perfect gift..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 12th Man? what about the other 4 subs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 I would suggest that the 'Wall of Fame' is a little more desperate. 'Own your own piece of Fratton Park.' Leave it long enough and you can own all the rubble your heart could desire, surely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 And there was me thinking that this was a Saints forum..... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Please explain why offering fans a deal like this means they are desperate and f*cked. It's a fire sale price given the break down of prices...if you've got webbed hands and sleep with your sister it's a great deal....if you're a 'football club' trying to break even it smacks of desperation. Happy to help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 12th Man? what about the other 4 subs? Probably a sliding scale down to a tenner :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 It's a fire sale price given the break down of prices...if you've got webbed hands and sleep with your sister it's a great deal....if you're a 'football club' trying to break even it smacks of desperation. Happy to help! Yes I do think you probably need a little help as Portsmouth appear to be a club which is trying to get more customers with Senior tickets for the over 60s no surcharge for tickets on the day. Good luck to them I say if they are looking after their fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark`` Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 just looked at their first team squad.... they have 15 players LOLLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 If Saints did this, it would be crowned as a "marketing and PR master stroke by Cortese". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 just looked at their first team squad.... they have 15 players LOLLL Clotterill may well get a game this season then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Yes I do think you probably need a little help as Portsmouth appear to be a club which is trying to get more customers with Senior tickets for the over 60s no surcharge for tickets on the day. Good luck to them I say if they are looking after their fans Well, they didn't bother looking after their fans who were also creditors, or the schools, or cancer charities, or St John Ambulance, etc, etc......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 i don't know why some of you are laughing at them, saints should be following their lead, especially with 6 game ticket packages, saints have more supply than demand, they should make more of an effort to fill the seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 and don't worry about the size of their squad, bet they will fill it with some prem loan signings once the 25 man squads have been announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 i don't know why some of you are laughing at them, saints should be following their lead, especially with 6 game ticket packages, saints have more supply than demand, they should make more of an effort to fill the seats. Exactly this. It's a very good deal and good idea from them. If we'd done this people on here would be claiming it is a fantastic idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 It's a fire sale price given the break down of prices...if you've got webbed hands and sleep with your sister it's a great deal....if you're a 'football club' trying to break even it smacks of desperation. Happy to help! Or a well priced deal to encourage fans to sign up to it. Tell me this, if we'd done this, would you say was a masterstroke by Cortese, or say it's a sign we are desperately trying to break even? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Exactly this. It's a very good deal and good idea from them. If we'd done this people on here would be claiming it is a fantastic idea. Completely. I think saints should do more things like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 ]sales of the new pompey shirt are not goin to well at the moment only 1750 SOLD SO FAR , source pompey shop lady, [only member of staff] in dvla office portsmouth taxin her car. And 1700 of those were sold because the spread legs on the shoulder reminded them of their sisters/wives. BTW, there is a short thread in the Lounge where this can all go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Obviously not from Pompey as she is taxing HER car. Ie it's het car and not stolen. It must be roadworthy (mot and insurance). ...and she is paying tax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 i don't know why some of you are laughing at them, saints should be following their lead, especially with 6 game ticket packages, saints have more supply than demand, they should make more of an effort to fill the seats. Exactly this. It's a very good deal and good idea from them. If we'd done this people on here would be claiming it is a fantastic idea. Agree with this. Also how is this Saints related? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Yes I do think you probably need a little help as Portsmouth appear to be a club which is trying to get more customers with Senior tickets for the over 60s no surcharge for tickets on the day. Good luck to them I say if they are looking after their fans So...marketing genius it must be then. 25 extra seats a year sold at a discounted price. they're saved. making losses is easy...they're just doing it whilst maing a diminutive number of inbreds happy in the process-and no- I wouldn't see it as anything different if it was us! I wouldn't take the p*ss AS much but then I'm not a skate apologist .-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Some people really are a bit weird on here and don't seem able to see outside the box; just because clubs are doing something different to us, doesn't mean it's not a good idea. There are one or two good offers going on down the road, the 6 game thing is a very good idea. We, on the other hand, do absolutely nothing in the form of marketing and offers, remove the half-season ticket, and yet because Cortese used to work in a bank we're the ones who are doing it right. Very odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Some people really are a bit weird on here and don't seem able to see outside the box; just because clubs are doing something different to us, doesn't mean it's not a good idea. There are one or two good offers going on down the road, the 6 game thing is a very good idea. We, on the other hand, do absolutely nothing in the form of marketing and offers, remove the half-season ticket, and yet because Cortese used to work in a bank we're the ones who are doing it right. Very odd. All we need is a high calibre, experienced Sales/Marketing Manager.... Oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Looks like a good deal to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Some people really are a bit weird on here and don't seem able to see outside the box; just because clubs are doing something different to us, doesn't mean it's not a good idea. There are one or two good offers going on down the road, the 6 game thing is a very good idea. We, on the other hand, do absolutely nothing in the form of marketing and offers, remove the half-season ticket, and yet because Cortese used to work in a bank we're the ones who are doing it right. Very odd. Hallelujah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billyboy Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Interesting comparison between Brum and our fishy friends. http://www.fanhouse.co.uk/2011/08/02/portsmouths-birmingham-carson-yeung/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 (edited) Some people really are a bit weird on here and don't seem able to see outside the box; just because clubs are doing something different to us, doesn't mean it's not a good idea. There are one or two good offers going on down the road, the 6 game thing is a very good idea. We, on the other hand, do absolutely nothing in the form of marketing and offers, remove the half-season ticket, and yet because Cortese used to work in a bank we're the ones who are doing it right. Very odd. It's a good idea for around 25 people a season for whom it is a good idea...how does that help their situation?...how does it help fill more than the two (discounted) seats they provide in the package? Th OP found it comical, I found it comical...yet some of you are turning it in to an attack on Cortese, the ticketing policy...whatever your agenda happens to be! Lighten up and take a financial reality pill...this does little or nothing for their financial plight and to infer that we should be doing something similar or in some way suggest that we should take steps that don't add up is a recipe for the woes that have beset both clubs in the recent past. The difference appears to be that we have maybe learned not to go down that route again. NB - It is in my Saints supporting DNA to mock those of the PO code affliction. Edited 3 August, 2011 by dronskisaint typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 I'd much rather have a club with ticket taxes, stadium taxes and parking taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Oh FFS. Look, we ALL know why we cannot do something like this at SMS. poopey do it and will just about find 25 mugs to make the offer work through the season at 125 quid. We do it - the demand would be Sooooooooooo high that we'd have 55,000 fans on here moaning that they never got a fair chance to sit on the bench. Alternatively, because of the demand, the package would end up on ebay each week and people would be bidding 5 or 10 grand for it and everyone would be up in arms about fans profiteering, and certain posters would then come back and argue it was only paying the ticket tax/parking/ST increases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 So...marketing genius it must be then. 25 extra seats a year sold at a discounted price. they're saved. making losses is easy...they're just doing it whilst maing a diminutive number of inbreds happy in the process-and no- I wouldn't see it as anything different if it was us! I wouldn't take the p*ss AS much but then I'm not a skate apologist .-) I dont think it is worth discussing anything with you as you appear to have little idea of what the average Pompey supporter is like. But I expect they are in general happy with the way the club is treating them with Senior tickets for the over 60s no surcharge for tickets on the day and other innovations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 The six game deal actually seems like quite a good deal. I cannot visit SMS often enough for warranting a season ticket die to work, and even if I could I'm not sure I could afford it either. I visit SMS about 12 times a season, and that deal at Southampton would seem excellent value, especially as the local derby isn't excluded from the list of fixtures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 And 1700 of those were sold because the spread legs on the shoulder reminded them of their sisters/wives. Image BTW, there is a short thread in the Lounge where this can all go. Excuse me Mr Munster, but please refrain from posting revolting pictures like that. I'm eating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 It's a good idea for around 25 people a season for whom it is a good idea...how does that help their situation?...how does it help fill more than the two (discounted) seats they provide in the package? Th OP found it comical, I found it comical...yet some of you are turning it in to an attack on Cortese, the ticketing policy...whatever your agenda happens to be! Lighten up and take a financial reality pill...this does little or nothing for their financial plight and to infer that we should be doing something similar or in some way suggest that we should take steps that don't add up is a recipe for the woes that have beset both clubs in the recent past. The difference appears to be that we have maybe learned not to go down that route again. NB - It is in my Saints supporting DNA to mock those of the PO code affliction. Well done for ignoring the majority of my post. And quite what "agenda" I have is a bit confusing; I'm perfectly capable of commenting on the good things I believe the new regime have done, just as I am capable of expressing an opinion on things I would like to see improved. I'm not sure what agenda that is, but if it makes you sleep better at night to tar me that brush, you carry on. As I originally said, there are one or two good ideas going on down there that I was highlighting, in comparison with us who don't offer any deals. The removal of the half season ticket, for example (one of which I would own right now if it still ran). The 6-game home deal, which is a good idea. And this £125 deal, while of course not bringing in buckets of money, is a good idea in that it incorporates a fan closer with the club. A big revenue maker? Of course not. But I cannot see any downside to it as a marketing activity, so fail to see any comedy in it. Despite your accusation, this isn't an "attack" on Cortese. As I said, I can recognise the many good things he's done for the club; I'm just unwilling to stick my head in the sand about some things I believe could be done better. If that's an agenda then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Well done for ignoring the majority of my post. And quite what "agenda" I have is a bit confusing; I'm perfectly capable of commenting on the good things I believe the new regime have done, just as I am capable of expressing an opinion on things I would like to see improved. I'm not sure what agenda that is, but if it makes you sleep better at night to tar me that brush, you carry on. As I originally said, there are one or two good ideas going on down there that I was highlighting, in comparison with us who don't offer any deals. The removal of the half season ticket, for example (one of which I would own right now if it still ran). The 6-game home deal, which is a good idea. And this £125 deal, while of course not bringing in buckets of money, is a good idea in that it incorporates a fan closer with the club. A big revenue maker? Of course not. But I cannot see any downside to it as a marketing activity, so fail to see any comedy in it. Despite your accusation, this isn't an "attack" on Cortese. As I said, I can recognise the many good things he's done for the club; I'm just unwilling to stick my head in the sand about some things I believe could be done better. If that's an agenda then so be it. OK,- Not aimed at you specifically any more than your 'weird' comment was necessarily aimed 'just' at me but given that you specifically mentioned that Cortese used to work in a bank in a sarcastically questioning manner maybe it could give that impression? I too believe that both the direct debit payment plan for season tickets and the half-season ticket are good ideas and open the options up for those who can't find all the money at once. The latter, quite naturally, would need to be dependent on knowing how many full season seats were had been sold...quite obviously it makes sense to sell as many of those as you can first. There may (or may not) be sound financial reasons why the club doesn't employ a third party credit agency to offer a 'buy on tick' service. These companies don't have the greatest PR on their interest charges and many on here (maybe you - I can't be a*sed to go looking) find fault with the booking charges levied by the club currently so maybe they don't wish to incur further acrimony by default? I know the arguments on this have been had on other threads but all these credit agencies are available to anyone who has the appropriate creditworthiness so it's a pretty vacuous argument...why should the club become a credit agency when so many are out there? I'm sorry if you feel all my comments were directed at you, personally but I have done you the courtesy of addressing the rest of the points that congratulated me on ignoring. The OP found the 12th man concept funny - so do I and I don't apologise for having a sense of humour about 'them'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 (edited) OK,- Not aimed at you specifically any more than your 'weird' comment was necessarily aimed 'just' at me but given that you specifically mentioned that Cortese used to work in a bank in a sarcastically questioning manner maybe it could give that impression? I too believe that both the direct debit payment plan for season tickets and the half-season ticket are good ideas and open the options up for those who can't find all the money at once. The latter, quite naturally, would need to be dependent on knowing how many full season seats were had been sold...quite obviously it makes sense to sell as many of those as you can first. There may (or may not) be sound financial reasons why the club doesn't employ a third party credit agency to offer a 'buy on tick' service. These companies don't have the greatest PR on their interest charges and many on here (maybe you - I can't be a*sed to go looking) find fault with the booking charges levied by the club currently so maybe they don't wish to incur further acrimony by default? I know the arguments on this have been had on other threads but all these credit agencies are available to anyone who has the appropriate creditworthiness so it's a pretty vacuous argument...why should the club become a credit agency when so many are out there? I'm sorry if you feel all my comments were directed at you, personally but I have done you the courtesy of addressing the rest of the points that congratulated me on ignoring. The OP found the 12th man concept funny - so do I and I don't apologise for having a sense of humour about 'them'. The 12th man thing I think we'll have to agree to disagree. It's no more than a little "fun", not going to make them much money but if just one poor soul decides its for them, then they've brought one person closer to the club. As for direct debit and outside credit agencies, I agree. In terms of the payment plan I think the club have got the idea spot on; it's all managed in house, and there is a slight charge to pay in installments rather than up front. No problem with that at all. A shame that one person c*cked up by sending the wrong tickets out though.... The desire for half-season tickets, well that's a selfish thing on my behalf as I'll be living abroad from Xmas time onwards. But I know of quite a few people who started off with a half season ticket then moved on to a full ST. So there is clearly method there in inducing more customers, i think it was a bad move to shelve it; more so to not actually tell us they were doing it until the last minute, and more than that no explanation why. In recognition of your response, I should also outline that my original Cortese comment was (as per some of your comments) not necessarily aimed at you in particular. More the seeming trend on here to immediately slap down any dissenting voices with the type of comment "Cortese was a banker so I'm sure he knows what he's doing better than you", or the accusation of having an "agenda" (that one still baffles me). I just wish some people could see that it is actually possible to praise the club's operations and still hope for better from them within the same breath. Edited 3 August, 2011 by The Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 It wll be TCWTB week in week out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 I dont think it is worth discussing anything with you as you appear to have little idea of what the average Pompey supporter is like. But I expect they are in general happy with the way the club is treating them with Senior tickets for the over 60s no surcharge for tickets on the day and other innovations. As I said I'm not a skate apologist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 On a slightly different matter, considering the trouble P***ey had last season in filling the bench and seeing how almost all managers are opposed to this move, is this another episode of the League 'helping' P***ey? It's just such a strange decision, with no consultation? Weird... http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,,12606_7074055,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 August, 2011 Share Posted 4 August, 2011 http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/news/Be-Pompey-s-Official-12th-Man-2392.aspx Yes, I'm bored and it made me chuckle. I think we are just a trifle unkind to our near neighbours sometimes...OK I know about local rivalry, and all that..but is it really fair that we make fun of them in this way ...?? BUT..on second thoughts, darn right it is ...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 4 August, 2011 Share Posted 4 August, 2011 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2409787,00.html Here's one for those applauding the phew....when we do something similar it benefits a charity? Discuss..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 4 August, 2011 Share Posted 4 August, 2011 http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/news/Be-Pompey-s-Official-12th-Man-2392.aspx Yes, I'm bored and it made me chuckle. You need to move on from the Pompey obsession thing, if we set our targets on only besting them we'll forget that there are much better clubs in our own back-yard like Reading & Brighton who'll delight in stuffing a self-styled BIG team like us especially as we are local. Make no mistake both have the ability to stuff us big time if we're off guard. Luckily Pompey are "who?" to Adkins so one doubts the team will be as fixated on the blue boys as you. As far as Pompey is concerned, they are in their own mid-life crises and will have to resolve that before they can become serious challengers again, indeed I worry that they may be dropping down a few more leagues yet before they can get their act together, another reason why we need to forget them and get on with our own progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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