wireframebox Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 This guy is having a cracking season in the Japanese J League. He's second top scorer over there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Havenaar He's tall at 6'4", half dutch, so no trouble getting a work permit. HCDAJFU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 Has he been linked or is this just a suggestion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 The J League is no guage of someones potential. Arsne Wenger managed there before Arsenal and look how he has failed over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 This guy is having a cracking season in the Japanese J League. He's second top scorer over there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Havenaar He's tall at 6'4", half dutch, so no trouble getting a work permit. HCDAJFU My brother was top scorer in his Sunday League. We may as well sign him up whilst we're at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 1 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 August, 2011 The J League is no guage of someones potential. Arsne Wenger managed there before Arsenal and look how he has failed over here. Someone should tell that to the Bundesliga, as they are snapping up Japanese players all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 You're havenaar laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 1 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 August, 2011 Ignorance is bliss... *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 To be fair the J league is of a pretty high standard now-a-days as is the Japanese national team. This was proven in their performance both against England before the world cup and during the world cup. There is a culture in the UK that if he is not a big name or on the cover of a magazine, he is not a good player. Look how the English 'superstars' get on internationally to see how true this theory is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 20 goals in 30 games is good, promotion and continued a goal every two games this season. http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/5577/38/ This is quite a good article in WSC, 3% of World Cup players play in the J-League, comparable with Brazil and Turkey. However the comment below the article does say there is very little movement from the J-League to europe, but then the same could be said of our league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jim Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 To be fair the J league is of a pretty high standard now-a-days as is the Japanese national team. This was proven in their performance both against England before the world cup and during the world cup. There is a culture in the UK that if he is not a big name or on the cover of a magazine, he is not a good player. Look how the English 'superstars' get on internationally to see how true this theory is... I have to disagree. I regularly watch the A-League and seeing the J league teams playing in the Asian Champions league against the Australian teams I think their players in general are are some way off the standard required for us as we are looking to push, over the next couple of years, toward the EPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 he must score lots of headers...the average centreback must be about 5'1 tall.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 Remember being in the Milton End as a kid and hearing we were about to sign Lineker from Grampus 8 before the game only for the deal to have fallen through due to his dodgy toe by half time. Gutted, along with Gazza, Shearer and Le Tiss he was my favourite player as a kid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alki_in_korea Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 the j-league is quite weak compared to must other asian leagues. there are some good signings out here though, so wouldnt write anyone off untill seeing them play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 Hmmmm. Second top scorer in the J-League, I just have trouble getting excited about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 To be fair the J league is of a pretty high standard now-a-days as is the Japanese national team. This was proven in their performance both against England before the world cup and during the world cup. There is a culture in the UK that if he is not a big name or on the cover of a magazine, he is not a good player. Look how the English 'superstars' get on internationally to see how true this theory is... It's a poor league. Probably similar standard to the SPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 I have to disagree. I regularly watch the A-League and seeing the J league teams playing in the Asian Champions league against the Australian teams I think their players in general are are some way off the standard required for us as we are looking to push, over the next couple of years, toward the EPL. I think you are right, that in general they are some way off the standard required. However, the very best players are definitely good enough higher NPC lower Prem. This has been proven over the years with players such as Nakata and Nakamura. I would rate Park ji Sung (I know he is not Japanese) as one of Man Utd's better players and Ryo Miyaichi as one of Arsenal's best young prospects. I am not saying this guy would be a world beater (I don't know much about him) just that the standard is not pub team as many 'little Englanders' think (by no means a dig at you St Jim). A couple of the younger players at the right price are definitely worth a gamble or at least a trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 I take it all back. The level of goal keeping is sh!t, we could all score 30 over there... http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/world-of-sport/article/63153/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 there is no problem getting the players over for a trial just think Hassan Kachoul or Marian Pahars both never heard of both great players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 1 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 August, 2011 It seems that Havenaar is currently training with the Japanese National team for the first time today. http://www.sponichi.co.jp/soccer/news/2011/08/01/gazo/G20110801001329720.html I'm also informed that there are reports of a bid from Aston Villa today in the Japanese newspaper Sponichi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 Has he been linked or is this just a suggestion? I wish people starting threads with suggested names that CDAJFU would put HCDAJFU in the bloody title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 1 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 1 August, 2011 Sorry to keep on, but he's very good in the air, but has a good touch too for a big guy. Crouch anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 Great name. Sign him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 This absolutely does not merit a separate thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 2 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Sounds like he's off to England, not sure he's up to Aston Villa levels though? http://futebolnippon.blogspot.com/2011/08/mike-havenaar-na-mira-do-aston-villa.html?spref=tw ps. Staggered by how miserable some of you are! Can I have my £5 back please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seany S Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 His father is called Dido. As someone previously mentioned, I think someone on here is Havenaar laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 3 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 August, 2011 They seem to think he's having a trial at Aston Villa on their forums? http://www.villatalk.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=70134 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashby Saint Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 They seem to think he's having a trial at Aston Villa on their forums? http://www.villatalk.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=70134 Are you his agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 3 August, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Are you his agent? Nope, just find it random that I suggest him as a good signing the day before he gets mentioned as being on trial with Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 11 October, 2011 Author Share Posted 11 October, 2011 He just scored his first goal for the Japanese National Team. #justsayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 11 October, 2011 Share Posted 11 October, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 October, 2011 Share Posted 11 October, 2011 He just scored his first goal for the Japanese National Team. #justsayin One out of the 8 that Japan put past Tajikstan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 11 October, 2011 Author Share Posted 11 October, 2011 One out of the 8 that Japan put past Tajikstan Two actually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 24 December, 2011 Author Share Posted 24 December, 2011 Ahem... http://www.goal.com/en/news/462/netherlands/2011/12/21/2812586/official-vitesse-sign-japan-international-mike-havenaar "Vitesse had been following the 24-year-old attacker for the last six months and beat the likes of Wolfsburg and Stuttgart to Havenaar's signature." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 wierd he turned down bigger teams to play for Vitesse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 24 December, 2011 Share Posted 24 December, 2011 Ahem... http://www.goal.com/en/news/462/netherlands/2011/12/21/2812586/official-vitesse-sign-japan-international-mike-havenaar "Vitesse had been following the 24-year-old attacker for the last six months and beat the likes of Wolfsburg and Stuttgart to Havenaar's signature." I feel your pain. I started a thread several years ago about Rickie Lambert.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 (edited) Saints were trying to organise a medical and hotel room for a player from the J league just prior to xmas eve....seems unlikely it was this geezer though. Edited 26 December, 2011 by kpturner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 Saints were trying to organise a mediacal and hotel room for a player from the J league just prior to xmas eve....seems unlikely it was this geezer though. Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 Source?The person they usually contact to sort out medicals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 The person they usually contact to sort out medicals As I have said before, a month ago, maybe two, I did see an asian man, suited and booted, being shown around on a match day before kick-off. He posed for a photograph with Nigel Adkins at the end of the tunnel too. He may well have been signed and put in the development side, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 As I have said before, a month ago, maybe two, I did see an asian man, suited and booted, being shown around on a match day before kick-off. He posed for a photograph with Nigel Adkins at the end of the tunnel too. He may well have been signed and put in the development side, who knows. If you saw an "asian" man it certainly wasn't Havenaar who is dutch. Asian men are seldom 6'4'' and named Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 If you saw an "asian" man it certainly wasn't Havenaar who is dutch. Asian men are seldom 6'4'' and named Mike. Racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 If you saw an "asian" man it certainly wasn't Havenaar who is dutch. Asian men are seldom 6'4'' and named Mike. Havenaar has a Dutch father and Japanese mother. He looks Eurasian, is 6'4" and is called Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 If you saw an "asian" man it certainly wasn't Havenaar who is dutch. Asian men are seldom 6'4'' and named Mike. When did I agree that it was Mike Havenaar? I believe I was following on from kpturner who said "seems unlikely it was this geezer though". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 As I have said before, a month ago, maybe two, I did see an asian man, suited and booted, being shown around on a match day before kick-off. He posed for a photograph with Nigel Adkins at the end of the tunnel too. He may well have been signed and put in the development side, who knows. Ryoichi Maeda would be my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 26 December, 2011 Share Posted 26 December, 2011 Ryoichi Maeda would be my guess. Hmm, he's 30 according to my best Googling, this guy looked early 20s. Without wishing to go through the whole 'ear lobes' debate which I sparked a few years back, this guy had spiky hair. From what I can see on Google, Mr. Maeda prefers the longer barnet. We have been scouting in asia though, that is for certain. A few months ago I spoke to a kid playing in Hong Kong who was scouted by Saints, he said at the time he was waiting to talk to someone from the academy about a potential move when he's older. Chelsea had been sniffing around too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 Josh Kennedy has been top scorer in the J League for last couple of seasons I think and he is ****ing gash. Says a bit about the standard. Hope its an up and coming talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 Josh Kennedy has been top scorer in the J League for last couple of seasons I think and he is ****ing gash. Says a bit about the standard. Hope its an up and coming talent. Ah Josh Kennedy. That name takes me back. FM2010 with Nagoya Grampus Eight. I used to sell him, always got about £2m plus. For some reason the Swiss clubs were lining up for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niemster Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 Do we maybe mean Arsenal youngster Ryo Miyaichi who impressed at Feyenoord last season? Just a guess though and it would have to be a loan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 27 December, 2011 Share Posted 27 December, 2011 Do we maybe mean Arsenal youngster Ryo Miyaichi who impressed at Feyenoord last season? Just a guess though and it would have to be a loan... Have to say, he has the same build and is the same height as I remember. Hair is spiky. It's all hearsay though, could have been absolutely anyone, but I know what I saw! Apologies to wireframebox for hijacking the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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