JackFrost Posted 28 July, 2011 Posted 28 July, 2011 Seriously what a **** http://www.metro.co.uk/music/870664-morrissey-says-norway-massacre-nothing-compared-to-actions-of-kfc
sambosa75 Posted 28 July, 2011 Posted 28 July, 2011 To be fair, whilst I don't agree, he is known for his involvement in animal rights issues and I'd imagine he's seen for himself the conditions the animals reared for us at McDonalds and KFC have to endure before being slaughtered. I can imagine them being absolutely horrific.
saint francis Posted 28 July, 2011 Posted 28 July, 2011 "We all live in a murderous world, as the events in Norway have shown, with 97 dead. Though that is nothing compared to what happens in McDonald’s and Kentucky Fried S*** every day." He makes a point.
This Charming Man Posted 28 July, 2011 Posted 28 July, 2011 I love his music but the bloke talks some utter sh*te at times.
Mao Cap Posted 28 July, 2011 Posted 28 July, 2011 I love his music but the bloke talks some utter sh*te at times. Indeed.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 28 July, 2011 Posted 28 July, 2011 I love his music but the bloke talks some utter sh*te at times. This. He makes a point about the rights of animals but it's in poor taste to compare it to Norway. He does seem to prefer animals to humans- when he played a gig in Canada (I think) and smelt meat cooking on a BBQ he said something like 'I can only hope it's human' before walking off.
scotty Posted 28 July, 2011 Posted 28 July, 2011 I love his music but the bloke talks some utter sh*te at times. Thats odd, I cant stand his music but I also think he talks utter sh*te.
saint francis Posted 28 July, 2011 Posted 28 July, 2011 As humans, I suppose it's natural to see the value of life from a human perspective. I presume another animal would, in turn, see it from its own. Is it reasonable to see the loss of human life and the loss of animal life as at least comparable? It's complex for me, but I'm not offended by Morrissey's words.
sotonjoe Posted 28 July, 2011 Posted 28 July, 2011 Can't see what all the fuss is about tbh. Most of the criticism is coming from people who seem to suggest that he has implied the Norway killings weren't a bad thing, which he clearly didn't say and doesn't think. His point, whether we agree or not, was that the daily slaughter of animals by major fast food chains is on a much larger scale than the one-off death of 97 humans. In all, he was trying to stress how murderous a society we live in. I can't help thinking that many who claim his remarks are offensive have actually missed the point. FWIW worth, I'm not a vegetarian and had a foot-long turkey and ham sub from Subway today so I guess I'm 'guilty'.
Hatch Posted 28 July, 2011 Posted 28 July, 2011 Morrissey only said this cos he was copying the thread of 1976 the other day.
sambosa75 Posted 29 July, 2011 Posted 29 July, 2011 I bet he still enjoys a Big Mac though. I think he'd prefer a Marr-s Bar.
This Charming Man Posted 29 July, 2011 Posted 29 July, 2011 Where's Turkish when you need him? I'd like to hear his opinion on this.
This Charming Man Posted 29 July, 2011 Posted 29 July, 2011 Thats odd, I cant stand his music but I also think he talks utter sh*te. Not really. There will be far more people in the world that dislike him rather than like him.
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 29 July, 2011 Posted 29 July, 2011 As humans, I suppose it's natural to see the value of life from a human perspective. I presume another animal would, in turn, see it from its own. Is it reasonable to see the loss of human life and the loss of animal life as at least comparable? It's complex for me, but I'm not offended by Morrissey's words. No.
Sheaf Saint Posted 29 July, 2011 Posted 29 July, 2011 http://newsthump.com/2011/07/29/your-leather-sofa-is-worse-than-the-holocaust-insists-morrissey/ :lol:
Dog Posted 29 July, 2011 Posted 29 July, 2011 http://newsthump.com/2011/07/29/your-leather-sofa-is-worse-than-the-holocaust-insists-morrissey/ :lol: I have to agree with him on that one, it just clashes with the curtains.
Special K Posted 29 July, 2011 Posted 29 July, 2011 http://newsthump.com/2011/07/29/your-leather-sofa-is-worse-than-the-holocaust-insists-morrissey/ :lol: I bought a sofa from DFS and didn't sit on it for 364 days. But i will tomorrow. That's part of the deal, pay no interest for a year.
FloridaMarlin Posted 29 July, 2011 Posted 29 July, 2011 He might love animals, but how does he feel about Lions and Tigers and other carnivores? In the natural world, there are food chains and food webs. Within them, there are natural predators and prey. Predators are there to keep the prey species in check. It's a natural order of things. I'm no expert but you only have to think of examples where insecticides have killed predators and as a result prey species have run out of control. Ladybirds and Aphids, anyone? Some species are there purely as prey. What other useful purpose does plankton and krill serve, other than as a food source for fish, whales, etc? Is Morrissey happy with what Lions, Tigers and other predators do? Or would he like them exterminated? I know the argument with human vegetarians is that as conscious animals we are able to divine that we can survive without eating meat, and that we can make a decision not to do so. But we evolved as true omnivores, and it's only the fact that now as a higher species we are able to think about predation that gives Human vegetarians that get out. I was shocked to see a TV programme not too many years back that showed Chimpanzees are not only carnivorous, but will prey on other species of monkey or ape. It shocked me out of my perception that chimps were just jolly consumers of bananas and cups of tea. As for linking the consumption of meat with what happened in Norway, he's just an insensitive knob, who has probably got an upcoming album to get publicity for.
Danny R Posted 29 July, 2011 Posted 29 July, 2011 All Morrisey needs is some nice Foie Gras coupled with a desert wine; afterwards, animals don't seem so important. Like him or not, he does know how rile people into making headlines regarding his beliefs.
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 29 July, 2011 Posted 29 July, 2011 Thats odd, I cant stand his music but I also think he talks utter sh*te. me too
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