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I haven't once seen a site that the travellers have left in a tidy, clean order. I don't know where these decent travellers are.

They are scum. Make life as difficult as possible for them so they can f*ck off back to Ireland.

 

Maybe you should drop the judgemental superiority complex you seem to have and embrace them. I am sure if you spoke to them, embraced their cultural and learned from it then you would become more rounded and humble as a human being. when you start accepting people for what they are then you will start to see the good in them. That would mean humilty from you though and i fear your bigotory is too far engrained for this to happen.

 

Just remember one thing, Hitler hated Gypsys too, it's not a good example to follow.

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It's nothing to do with 'race'.

 

The facts are that they 'do' leave **** left behind to be cleared up by your tax money and crime rate does increase in the local area when they arrive. There are good and bad in all society, but 'travellers' are bad news, end of.

 

Traditional Romany gypsy must hate them too for dragging their name into the dirt.

 

Please prove this.

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Come on Dune, do me a favour.

 

Like the Jews, the Rom Gypsies were chosen for total annihilation just because of their race. Even though Jews are defined by religion, Hitler saw the Jewish people as a race that he believed needed to be completely annihilated. The Rom Gypsies also were a nomadic people that were persecuted throughout history. Both groups were denied certain privileges in many European countries. The Nazis believed that both the Jews and Gypsies were racially inferior and degenerate and therefore worthless. Like the Jews, the Gypsies were also moved into special areas set up by the Nazis. Half a million Gypsies, almost the entire Eastern European Gypsy population, was wiped out during the Holocaust.

 

http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/romgypsies.htm

 

This thread has exposed all the forum NAZI's.

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You want a written document? Speak to the police. There's your proof.

 

Turkish me thinks your on a wind up.

 

I want you to prove your sweeping statement that crime goes up when travellers move into the area. Given that so many people on here seem to hate them, i wouldn't have thought it would be too big a task for you. There must be plenty of people on here that have been victims of them to have formed such strong opinions.

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Like the Jews, the Rom Gypsies were chosen for total annihilation just because of their race. Even though Jews are defined by religion, Hitler saw the Jewish people as a race that he believed needed to be completely annihilated. The Rom Gypsies also were a nomadic people that were persecuted throughout history. Both groups were denied certain privileges in many European countries. The Nazis believed that both the Jews and Gypsies were racially inferior and degenerate and therefore worthless. Like the Jews, the Gypsies were also moved into special areas set up by the Nazis. Half a million Gypsies, almost the entire Eastern European Gypsy population, was wiped out during the Holocaust.

 

http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/romgypsies.htm

 

This thread has exposed all the forum NAZI's.

 

* sits back and waits for the racists to start making excuses that their viewpoint is nothing like Adolf Hitlers and is in some way justifed.*

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I want you to prove your sweeping statement that crime goes up when travellers move into the area. Given that so many people on here seem to hate them, i wouldn't have thought it would be too big a task for you.

 

 

The Nazis believed that both the Jews and Gypsies were racially inferior and degenerate and therefore worthless. It's sad that in the 21st century we still have neanderthals that use baseless claims to feed their fears and intolerances.

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The Nazis believed that both the Jews and Gypsies were racially inferior and degenerate and therefore worthless. It's sad that in the 21st century we still have neanderthals that use baseless claims to feed their fears and intolerances.

 

Indeed, just in the few posts on this forum they've been labelled Scum, all bad news and accused of increasing crime wherever they go. Clearly lessons from the past have not been learned and society has not moved on.

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Indeed, just in the few posts on this forum they've been labelled Scum, all bad news and accused of increasing crime wherever they go. Clearly lessons from the past have not been learned and society has not moved on.

 

Don't worry. Verbal, Super Mikey, Saintandy666 and the boys will soon be on here to ride to the rescue and restore our faith in humanity.

 

Jonnyboy and solenstars have sadly shown their true colours though.:(

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Maybe you should drop the judgemental superiority complex you seem to have and embrace them. I am sure if you spoke to them, embraced their cultural and learned from it then you would become more rounded and humble as a human being. when you start accepting people for what they are then you will start to see the good in them. That would mean humilty from you though and i fear your bigotory is too far engrained for this to happen.

 

Just remember one thing, Hitler hated Gypsys too, it's not a good example to follow.

 

I would definitely take anything of value off my person if I engaged in a conversation with these dirty thieving bastards.

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Don't worry. Verbal, Super Mikey, Saintandy666 and the boys will soon be on here to ride to the rescue and restore our faith in humanity.

 

Jonnyboy and solenstars have sadly shown their true colours though.:(

 

Nice try, but Ive made no comment on the matter

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Like the Jews, the Rom Gypsies were chosen for total annihilation just because of their race. Even though Jews are defined by religion, Hitler saw the Jewish people as a race that he believed needed to be completely annihilated. The Rom Gypsies also were a nomadic people that were persecuted throughout history. Both groups were denied certain privileges in many European countries. The Nazis believed that both the Jews and Gypsies were racially inferior and degenerate and therefore worthless. Like the Jews, the Gypsies were also moved into special areas set up by the Nazis. Half a million Gypsies, almost the entire Eastern European Gypsy population, was wiped out during the Holocaust.

 

http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/romgypsies.htm

 

This thread has exposed all the forum NAZI's.

 

This would be a half-decent attempt to get a rise were it not for one important point dune: that this thread is about a single group of Irish travellers who have pitched up in Hedge End. Nobody has mentioned Romany Gypsies.

 

five out of ten for trying though.

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Like the Jews, the Rom Gypsies were chosen for total annihilation just because of their race. Even though Jews are defined by religion, Hitler saw the Jewish people as a race that he believed needed to be completely annihilated. The Rom Gypsies also were a nomadic people that were persecuted throughout history. Both groups were denied certain privileges in many European countries. The Nazis believed that both the Jews and Gypsies were racially inferior and degenerate and therefore worthless. Like the Jews, the Gypsies were also moved into special areas set up by the Nazis. Half a million Gypsies, almost the entire Eastern European Gypsy population, was wiped out during the Holocaust.

 

http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/romgypsies.htm

 

This thread has exposed all the forum NAZI's.

 

Thank you for telling us what your far right groups you belong to preach and bow to your expert knowledge

 

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This would be a half-decent attempt to get a rise were it not for one important point dune: that this thread is about a single group of Irish travellers who have pitched up in Hedge End. Nobody has mentioned Romany Gypsies.

 

five out of ten for trying though.

 

The sweeping statements that they are all scum, criminals etc has the same undertones though don't you agree?

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The liberal elite are very quiet.

Guess the gypos have the wrong colour skin for then to make any effort in defending them.

 

 

Where are travellers supposed to live ?

 

How are they supposed to leave a clean site without sanitation and other basic facilities?

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The liberal elite are very quiet.

Guess the gypos have the wrong colour skin for then to make any effort in defending them.

 

Watching you trying to be a liberal is like watching a walrus trying to do the ironing.

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Ok i thought for awhile if i should post it but fook it i think i will seeing as we have a few defending them on here.

 

 

These travellers moved into one of the fields near ours in curdridge. One of the ones on the left as if your on your way to Botley from Bishops Waltham. The field they moved into was a really well kept field. Had some very nice horse stables next to it. The owner clearly looked after it as the hedges were trimmed and the grass was cut.

 

When they left the owner went into his field to find the gate ripped off, fences ripped up and used for fire, brick and rubble dumped in a corner. Litter on the ground, in hedges and pretty much everywhere, needles thrown on the floor, trees cut down and the best bit of all lot's of human **** and **** to clean up.

 

Now i got nothing against travellers. It is nothing to do with race, where they come from, their background etc.... what i have a problem with is that a bunch of people think they can cruise around and rip off your gate and then move in.

It is like you coming home from work one-day to find your door kicked in, your porch door missing and loads of strangers in your house who when asked to leave tell you to **** off. You obviously then go to the cops who say you have to wait for an eviction order.

 

And finally about a week later when that comes through and they have moved on your left with a totally ****ed house which you have to pay to fix. The way i see it these people should be arrested. They are breaking and entering and in some cases stealling items from the place.

When they were moved on from Curdridge they went a few miles up the road to Shedfield. While there they might have broke into an industrial unit and stole some machinary including a friends motorbike that was stored there. He tells me that they have the people who stole it caught on cctv and the police are "investigating". On this video it shows how they got into the building. They cut through the fence wires, broke the door off its hinges and simply walked inside.

Now it might not be them but it would be huge coincidence that it happens while these people are right next to it. Especially considering it has never happened before.

 

They have now been moved on from Shedfield and a policeman told that friend they think they are now heading to Hayling Island.

 

Now the thing is it is actually ilegal now in Ireland to do what they do. They would be arrested. Eventually the same law will come in here and you have to say it can't come soon enough.

 

As far as i am concerned i have no sympathy for people who break into properties by ripping off the gates then setting up blockades to stop people getting in. Then ask for respect when they are there.

 

 

The people who want to travel about and just live off the land (without being dodgy) then i can understand why they would want to do that. Sounds fun. But sadly in this day and age you can't do it. You have to have your own land to do that.

 

There are a lot of decent travellers too don't get me wrong. I am talking about the groups who think just moving into any old field without permission is ok.

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I live near the university. We've had different sets of students living next door every year. During the summer the house owner keeps the garden clean and tidy. As soon as the students this year moved in it becomes full of rubbish, they didn't cut the grass once in the whole year meaning by the time they left it was about 5 foot high. Out the front on the drive the left a mountain of rubbish, bits of wood, food that was god knows how old, all piled up in the drive and on the pavement, they had cars, why not do what all normal people do and go to the dump rather than expecting tax payers money to be used to clean it up?

Whilst they lived there they were a total pain, rude, noisy, ignorant. The old lady the other side said she was often kept up until 4 in the morning by their loutish behaviour, just being drunk, loud and obnoxious.

Now I've nothing against students, most of them are okay but why do they think they can rock up in a nice street behave how they want and upset all the locals then leave the place an absolute sh*t hole. This is supposed to be the cream of our youth, the future of out country. The government should bring in laws to evict them.

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Where are travellers supposed to live ?

 

How are they supposed to leave a clean site without sanitation and other basic facilities?

 

Exactly. If the locals embraced them and the council welcomed them to the area, provided them with Portaloos and skips on their arrival rather than peddling rumours and myths to frighten the local residents and trying to get rid of them straight away then perhaps that would hp them. They'd feel welcome rather than being treated worse than animals.

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How are they supposed to leave a clean site without sanitation and other basic facilities?, well if they did not rip out the copper then they would be able to leave it clean but as in most perm sites they take anything of any value which they did at all the site in and around Wiltshire and Somerset.. I just wish the liberal elite would wake up. Untill you have to deal with the travelers which i have you have no idea what a bunch of nasty people they are. Ever noticed on TV when they go after dodgy builders the roofers and gardeners etc are always travelers. So in a nut shell they rip of OAP's proven fact, they trespass and destroy peoples land fact, they steal fact, they leave crap where ever they have been fact.Involved in major drug crime Fact, Defend that.

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On another note and without wishing to sound like hypo, there have been a number of racist comments on here, must have been quite a few infraction points dished out last night.

 

I don't think these vile racialists should be infracted, but should be allowed to post their bigoted views so we can educate them and if it falls to me to start a fight to cut out the cancer of vile and twisted ignorance in our country with the simple sword of truth and the trusty shield of British fair play, so be it. I am ready for the fight. The fight against bigotry and those who peddle it. My fight begins today. Thank you and good afternoon.

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How are they supposed to leave a clean site without sanitation and other basic facilities?, well if they did not rip out the copper then they would be able to leave it clean but as in most perm sites they take anything of any value which they did at all the site in and around Wiltshire and Somerset.. I just wish the liberal elite would wake up. Untill you have to deal with the travelers which i have you have no idea what a bunch of nasty people they are. Ever noticed on TV when they go after dodgy builders the roofers and gardeners etc are always travelers. So in a nut shell they rip of OAP's proven fact, they trespass and destroy peoples land fact, they steal fact, they leave crap where ever they have been fact.Involved in major drug crime Fact, Defend that.

 

 

 

I'm not prepared to defend your allegations. You tar (no pun intended, honest) all travellers with the same brush. I know many travellers and showmen. They have Families including kids and elderly folk. Are they also to be classed as drug dealers, thieves,vandals etc ?

 

For completeness, please also tell me where you say travellers should live.

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How are they supposed to leave a clean site without sanitation and other basic facilities?, well if they did not rip out the copper then they would be able to leave it clean but as in most perm sites they take anything of any value which they did at all the site in and around Wiltshire and Somerset.. I just wish the liberal elite would wake up. Untill you have to deal with the travelers which i have you have no idea what a bunch of nasty people they are. Ever noticed on TV when they go after dodgy builders the roofers and gardeners etc are always travelers. So in a nut shell they rip of OAP's proven fact, they trespass and destroy peoples land fact, they steal fact, they leave crap where ever they have been fact.Involved in major drug crime Fact, Defend that.

 

Such bigoted stereotypes were used by the NAZI's in the build up, and during, their persecution of people who were different. Do you have a final solution too?

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Ui

 

 

 

I'm not prepared to defend your allegations. You tar (no pun intended, honest) all travellers with the same brush. I know many travellers and showmen. They have Families including kids and elderly folk. Are they also to be classed as drug dealers, thieves,vandals etc ?

 

For completeness, please also tell me where you say travellers should live.

 

In normal houses, with normal jobs, paying normal taxes, like normal people.

 

F*ck it, I'm going to live in a motor home, do dodgy driveways/tree felling and not pay tax. Oh and steal the occasional garden ornament that I spot whilst out trying to flog my dodgy services.

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In normal houses, with normal jobs, paying normal taxes, like normal people.

 

F*ck it, I'm going to live in a motor home, do dodgy driveways/tree felling and not pay tax. Oh and steal the occasional garden ornament that I spot whilst out trying to flog my dodgy services.

 

 

Silly me for not seeing that glut of social housing going spare, those readily available mortgages, the piles of cash for deposits, the well paid jobs, and the obligation to give up a culture.

 

I'm not condoning the behaviour of some travellers but people need to think about what the realistic alternatives before posting utter bolloc@s.

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On another note and without wishing to sound like hypo, there have been a number of racist comments on here, must have been quite a few infraction points dished out last night.

 

The only potential racist comment I have seen is from TDD referring to them as 'Gypos', although he appears to be in your camp of trying to get a rise out of the Liberal Elite ™ on the issue.

 

You will need to improve on your trolling skills in this case methinks.

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I don't think these vile racialists should be infracted, but should be allowed to post their bigoted views so we can educate them and if it falls to me to start a fight to cut out the cancer of vile and twisted ignorance in our country with the simple sword of truth and the trusty shield of British fair play, so be it. I am ready for the fight. The fight against bigotry and those who peddle it. My fight begins today. Thank you and good afternoon.

 

What about people who laugh at disabilities?

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?30907-Things-that-make-you-say-OMG&highlight=palsy

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I strenuously deny laughing at his disability. People like you assumed this. It speaks volumes about people like you that look at him and immediately focus on his disability.

 

Shame on you.

 

Then perhaps you could enlighten us as to exactly what you were laughing at, seeing as you successfully evaded the question on at least four occasions on that thread.

 

Then again, perhaps you can't... or won't.

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Then perhaps you could enlighten us as to exactly what you were laughing at, seeing as you successfully evaded the question on at least four occasions on that thread.

 

Then again, perhaps you can't... or won't.

 

Rebecca please keep on topic. We are discussing the persecution of the travelling community by narrow minded nimbys in this thread. Thanks.

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ho ho ho, the Liberal Elite suddenly spring into action yet not one of them come to the defence of the travelling community.

 

You avoided any reply on the original thread. Here you're 'denying' laughing. That's surely a bare-faced lie, isn't it?

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ho ho ho, the Liberal Elite suddenly spring into action yet not one of them come to the defence of the travelling community.

 

Dune how old are you? seriously?

 

For what it's worth, seeing as I must be a member of your Liberal Elite about which you seem to have such an unhealthy obsession, I personally do defend the rights of people to live their life according to whatever values they wish, as long as it dos not impinge on the rights of others to do the same. As many posters have already confirmed, this particular group of travellers under discussion have no doubt already caused many problems within the communities they have chosen to inhabit, as do many others. It isn't racism, or any kind of 'ism' as far as I am concerned. Although, it has not gone un-noticed by me that one of the very first people to mention the term Gypsies on this thread was you.

 

The simple fact is that a large majority of travellers are thieves who force their way onto private land, steal property and leave a huge mess behind them when they are finally (rightly) evicted. Therefore it is not unreasonable for people to be extra vigilant with the security of their property when there are travellers in the area. This is not to say that all travellers are like this... I know that isn't the case. But you and your sidekick Turkish appear to be advocating that we should all just drop our guard and welcome them into our communities with open arms because they have the same human rights as the rest of us.

 

Now, any chance of you ever explaining what it was about Paul Maynard's speech you found so hilarious?

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You avoided any reply on the original thread. Here you're 'denying' laughing. That's surely a bare-faced lie, isn't it?

 

No it isn't. The Labour MP's accused of mocking him stated that they were unaware of his disability. I too was unaware of his disability until it was pointed out by the Liberal Elite on here. How is one to know he had a disability without being in knowledge of it?

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No it isn't. The Labour MP's accused of mocking him stated that they were unaware of his disability. I too was unaware of his disability until it was pointed out by the Liberal Elite on here. How is one to know he had a disability without being in knowledge of it?

 

What utter crap. You were laughing at him - your claim (and that is putting it at its best) that you didn't know the precise nature of his disability is beside the point. You were laughing at him, and what made it funny for you was that he 'talked funny' because of a disability.

 

Your odd behaviour on this thread also suggests someone who's found a welcome distraction from the uncomfortable fact that your extremist views coincide at far too many points with those of a mass murderer.

 

So why don't you go off into a corner, hang your head in shame, and allow some proper discussion, rather than attempting to hijack the thread with childish finger-pointing.

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What utter crap. You were laughing at him - your claim (and that is putting it at its best) that you didn't know the precise nature of his disability is beside the point. You were laughing at him, and what made it funny for you was that he 'talked funny' because of a disability.

 

Your odd behaviour on this thread also suggests someone who's found a welcome distraction from the uncomfortable fact that your extremist views coincide at far too many points with those of a mass murderer.

 

So why don't you go off into a corner, hang your head in shame, and allow some proper discussion, rather than attempting to hijack the thread with childish finger-pointing.

 

As ever the holier than thou Liberal Elite try to divert attention away from their own prejudices. Instead of welcoming the tolerant views of myself, Turkish and to a lesser extent Delldays, you choose to ignore the bigoted views directed towards our travelling peoples.

 

Anyway i'm off to cut the hedge. I suggest you think long and hard about your fears and intollerances because it isn't clever.

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Are you Nick Griffin?

 

Do you have any statistics to back up this racist claim?

 

Dune, stop it now - really. You're just being a childish pr1ck, as usual. There is absolutely nothing RACIST in what I posted and you damn-well know it.

 

No I do not have any statistics because there probably aren't any official ones, seeing as most of the people involved do not exist as far as the state is concerned. How do you keep statistics about people who do not appear on any databases? You just need to ask the experiences of the local residents where travellers have been living nearby and you will have all the information you need.

 

Still evading the question about Mr Maynard I see. Quelle surprise. :rolleyes:

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As ever the holier than thou Liberal Elite try to divert attention away from their own prejudices. Instead of welcoming the tolerant views of myself, Turkish and to a lesser extent Delldays, you choose to ignore the bigoted views directed towards our travelling peoples.

 

Anyway i'm off to cut the hedge. I suggest you think long and hard about your fears and intollerances because it isn't clever.

 

LOL watch him squirm.

 

Having been a Tory voter for a while it says more about your political views if you describe me as a member of the "Liberal Elite".

 

By the way you'd do yourself more favours if you did answer the question about Maynard, even if your breathtaking hypocrisy has been exposed

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This thread seems to have turned into a slanging match.

 

fwiw, my opinion is that Turks has a point about anybody having the right to choose the way they live their lives, (and I strongly suspect that he's on a marathon wind-up session,) but with the enormous proviso that they do so within the laws of the land.

 

Bexy also makes a good point, that crime statistics relating to traveller sites are unreliable because very few of them are registered in the normal way. Practically all the claims made about crime rising in the vicinity are anecdotal for that reason alone, however from personal experience I can say that burglary definitely increases whenever the travellers pitch up in rownhams/lordshill/baddesley. We have very few problems around here normally, but as soon as the travellers arrive there they are scouting around, especially anywhere that has a van parked up in their driveway. We had a group of four of them trying the back doors of the van at 1am, when me and my neighbour went out and asked them what the f*ck they thought they were doing they replied "looking for the golf course". Phoned the police who replied wearily that "the gypsies are in town", came round and took some details and told us they had the same problems all over the area since they arrived.

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