Saint-Armstrong Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 What songs have been ripped off and ruined, OR are just totally awful? I think a lot of the modern hip-hop rapper stuff is awful. Singing about the same things all the time or killing some one elses song. What the hell is this crap? [video=youtube;2YYF0j-FV3c] The original is much better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 To be fair, it couldn't be any worse than the original. I nominate Madonna's cover of American Pie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swKhPHzPIoU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 What songs have been ripped off and ruined, OR are just totally awful? I think a lot of the modern hip-hop rapper stuff is awful. Singing about the same things all the time or killing some one elses song. What the hell is this crap? [video=youtube;2YYF0j-FV3c] The original is much better... It shows how talentless a lot of the modern "artists" are when all they do is make awful covers or have to heavily sample other people's music to make hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA_c1o5Y95o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 Scissor sisters should have been publically executed for what they did to Comfortably Numb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 Everything in the charts these days is absolute f*cking sh*t. It's mainly black artists singing sh*t rap or r&b. It then leads to white lads listening to it, speaking with a Jamaican accent and suddenly thinking they're hard. If they want to be black they can move to Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 What's race got to do with it? Find a genre of non-classical contemporary music that's exclusively white in origins; I'll go listen to that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 What's race got to do with it? Find a genre of non-classical contemporary music that's exclusively white in origins; I'll go listen to that... Any lads you see that wear tracksuits, Nike trainers, speak with a Jamaican accent and generally are chavvy little c*nts all listen to rap music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 Any lads you see that wear tracksuits, Nike trainers, speak with a Jamaican accent and generally are chavvy little c*nts all listen to rap music. Remove the accent, add a touch of casual racism to their demeanour; they're bound to listen to a whole different genre of music. Take 'A Clockwork Orange'; the scamps in there take inspiration from Beethoven. It's not the music, nor the culture of the music that inspires what you dislike (unless you are purely marking out territories based on racial influence, using musical influence as an unsubtle pretense), merely traits apparent in youth in itself. Find a culture, a time, in which there did not exist a scampish element of youth. What you base your argument on is flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 Scissor sisters should have been publically executed for what they did to Comfortably Numb. To be fair at least it was different to the original - I can't see the point of doing a cover version otherwise. That said I didn't like it.......but I don't like the original either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 Everything in the charts these days is absolute f*cking sh*t. It's mainly black artists singing sh*t rap or r&b. Total agreement mate. Last week I forgot to take my headphones to the gym so I was forced to listen to the utter garbage that was playing on the PA and accompanying the videos on the large screens. I really felt sorry for today's kids knowing that this is the crap they are being force-fed by the record industry. One of the terrible things I saw/heard was a guy 'singing' (obviously auto-tuned... why do people actually think that sounds good!?) a dodgy version of The Banana-boat Song over the top of the backing track to Robin S's Show Me Love. It was painful to listen to. Can nobody come up with anything original any more!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 To be fair, it couldn't be any worse than the original. I nominate Madonna's cover of American Pie This. What the hell was the point of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 Also, the flying pickets managed to take a wonderful yazoo song, Only You, and turn it into a bland slice of mainstream ear candy. And who was it that took Say hello wave goodbye by soft cell, and somehow contrive to alter the chord sequence thereby completely wrecking the song? (the unusual chord change being the whole point of it), some american singer I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 I thought that Hendrix's version of All Along the Watchtower ruined Dylan's version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch of Maycomb Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 I agre with Griffo. If you like something from another country, move to that f*cking country. My son told me that he wanted 'sushi' for dinner last night. I told him to f*ck off to Japan or eat his bread dripping like a good boy. And if people want to listen to black music, they can f*ck right off to africa with all the other blacks. Or at least 'black-up' like my dad used to when he wanted to listen to soul or jazz music. White people that like black music are f*cking traitors. In about two years there wont be any white people left in the world, except in zoos or museums (stuffed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 Also, the flying pickets managed to take a wonderful yazoo song, Only You, and turn it into a bland slice of mainstream ear candy. And who was it that took Say hello wave goodbye by soft cell, and somehow contrive to alter the chord sequence thereby completely wrecking the song? (the unusual chord change being the whole point of it), some american singer I think. For me though the biggest crime of cover versions is when they do something exactly the same as the original - what's the point? At least something different stands on it's own artistic merit whether you like it or not. Doing something exactly the same offers nothing except a shed load of cash to record companies and bands too lazy to come up with their own ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 Everything in the charts these days is absolute f*cking sh*t. It's mainly black artists singing sh*t rap or r&b. It then leads to white lads listening to it, speaking with a Jamaican accent and suddenly thinking they're hard. If they want to be black they can move to Africa. *sits back and waits for the liberal elite to notice these comments and mount their 50 foot stalion whilst making all sorts of accusations* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 For me though the biggest crime of cover versions is when they do something exactly the same as the original - what's the point? At least something different stands on it's own artistic merit whether you like it or not. Doing something exactly the same offers nothing except a shed load of cash to record companies and bands too lazy to come up with their own ideas. Thats fair enough, but some covers do actually add to the song. Case in point, the beautiful south did basically a straight cover of everybodys talking about me by nilsson, but with a venom that fundamentally changed the tone and meaning without altering it musically. What I meant about the soft cell one was the chord change during the "take your hands off me...." chorus, where the cover reversed the chords from the original. That was a shame because apart from that I really liked the cover version. And I'm surprised none of our older members has mentioned sid vicious belting out My Way yet...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 At the beggars fair in Romsey, a couple of guys played Wonderwall, except they just played the same four chords from the intro under the entire vocal. That was pretty ****ing horrendous to listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 *sits back and waits for the liberal elite to notice these comments and mount their 50 foot stalion whilst making all sorts of accusations* Give it a rest, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 Give it a rest, please. He's right though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 He's right though. Not really, just tedious and dull. Can we get back to talking about cover versions now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 Not really, just tedious and dull. Can we get back to talking about cover versions now? I was doing just that, but got sidetracked. Any thoughts on the couple I mentioned in response to your post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 Rolf Harris with Stairway to Heaven makes me cringe and I don't care if LZ claimed to like it either, I hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 *sits back and waits for the liberal elite to notice these comments and mount their 50 foot stalion whilst making all sorts of accusations* Why? Even fully paid up members like myself knows what a wigga is and that's what the boy is on about. Not sure many listen to African hip hop though and aspire to live in downtown Lagos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN3MGN899yE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 Why? Even fully paid up members like myself knows what a wigga is and that's what the boy is on about. Not sure many listen to African hip hop though and aspire to live in downtown Lagos. I agree with him, although i am sure some on here will find it offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 Thats fair enough, but some covers do actually add to the song. Case in point, the beautiful south did basically a straight cover of everybodys talking about me by nilsson, but with a venom that fundamentally changed the tone and meaning without altering it musically. What I meant about the soft cell one was the chord change during the "take your hands off me...." chorus, where the cover reversed the chords from the original. That was a shame because apart from that I really liked the cover version. And I'm surprised none of our older members has mentioned sid vicious belting out My Way yet...... I was doing just that, but got sidetracked. Any thoughts on the couple I mentioned in response to your post? I've got to be honest I didn't think the Beautiful South's version was that different - I certainly didn't get any sense of venom but then it's all a matter of interpretation. It did remind me of Mariah Carey stripping out any emotion with her wretched cover of "without you" though. I say reminds but only in the sense that they were both Nillson songs. Carey's cover added no musical interpretation whatsover just a cackle of warbling designed to mimic emotion and not recreate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 I thought that Hendrix's version of All Along the Watchtower ruined Dylan's version. I like U2's version of it though (Rattle and Hum album).... also really like Taylor Swift's rendition of Mumford and Sons White Blank Page http://youtu.be/YIWTm6FVc4A, it gives it a new personality when sung from a female perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 I like U2's version of it though (Rattle and Hum album).... also really like Taylor Swift's rendition of Mumford and Sons White Blank Page http://youtu.be/YIWTm6FVc4A Ahh U2s Rattle and Hum - the album I was listening to one Saturday morning years ago, when my then 2 year old son picked up my mug of boiling black coffee I just placed on the table - said coffee spilt all over his chest, he ended up in hospital and I ended up in the doghouse....I haven't played it since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 (edited) anyway, as for covers that are bad, i heard one on Radio 1 today by Kanye West and Jay Z.....ok, it wasn't a 'cover' per se, but it used a sample of Otis Redding's Try a Little Tenderness...............f**k me it's one of the most God-awful things i've ever heard!!.......if you think i'm exagerrating, have a listen.....http://youtu.be/WnnehVcJN4g Edited 25 July, 2011 by saint boggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 (edited) why??!? Edited 25 July, 2011 by saint_bert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 Noel Gallaghers acoustic covers of The Smiths, There is a light that never goes out and The Jams To Be Someone are fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 anyway, as for covers that are bad, i heard one on Radio 1 today by Kanye West and Jay Z.....ok, it wasn't a 'cover' per say, but it used a sample of Otis Redding's Try a Little Tenderness...............f**k me it's one of the most God-awful things i've ever heard!!.......if you think i'm exagerrating, have a listen.....http://youtu.be/WnnehVcJN4g Never heard this "cover" before....I had to turn it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 anyway, as for covers that are bad, i heard one on Radio 1 today by Kanye West and Jay Z.....ok, it wasn't a 'cover' per say, but it used a sample of Otis Redding's Try a Little Tenderness...............f**k me it's one of the most God-awful things i've ever heard!!.......if you think i'm exagerrating, have a listen.....http://youtu.be/WnnehVcJN4g That is truly horrific. They both deserve to die a slow and painful death for this act of sacrilege! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 I've got to be honest I didn't think the Beautiful South's version was that different - I certainly didn't get any sense of venom but then it's all a matter of interpretation. It did remind me of Mariah Carey stripping out any emotion with her wretched cover of "without you" though. I say reminds but only in the sense that they were both Nillson songs. Carey's cover added no musical interpretation whatsover just a cackle of warbling designed to mimic emotion and not recreate it. Have another listen sometime and you'll see what I mean. They added an edge to the song that wasnt really there in the original, another example of that was when Del Amitri did a live version of "Nothing ever happens" on R4 a few years ago on loose ends, the singer absolutely spat out the lyrics with true vitriol, I had never realised the bitterness of that song til then, it had just washed over me like another piece of MOR. (Point of interest, I did a bit of work for the del amitri keyboard player last weekend, he was in lymington for the evening.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 The George Michael cover of True Faith by New Order that came out for Comic Relief was horrific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hamster Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 Any lads you see that wear tracksuits, Nike trainers, speak with a Jamaican accent and generally are chavvy little c*nts all listen to rap music. Sounds like my grandson, nice kid. chavvy but not that other word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 I thought that Hendrix's version of All Along the Watchtower ruined Dylan's version. Ruined it so much that Dylan publicly said how much he admired it and changed the way he performed the song to reflect Hendrix's arrangement. Seriously, this is nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 The George Michael cover of True Faith by New Order that came out for Comic Relief was horrific I thought it was an interesting cover, as covers go. Certainly a different slant on the original which is what you always hope for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locksheathsaint101 Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G4jnaznUoQ&ob=av2e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 Thats fair enough, but some covers do actually add to the song. Case in point, the beautiful south did basically a straight cover of everybodys talking about me by nilsson, but with a venom that fundamentally changed the tone and meaning without altering it musically. What I meant about the soft cell one was the chord change during the "take your hands off me...." chorus, where the cover reversed the chords from the original. That was a shame because apart from that I really liked the cover version. And I'm surprised none of our older members has mentioned sid vicious belting out My Way yet...... The song's called Everybody's Talkin'. Nilsson's version (1969) - used in the film Midnight Cowboy - is actually a cover of Fred Neil's original (1966). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 I used to know Mark Morrison and his thuggish entourage. And as unfeasible as this may sound, one rainy night they left a club, leaving his raincoat behind. He later returned, demanding its return. No, really. Regarding poor cover versions, I'd suggest The Corrs best selling version of Old Town, written and originally record by the late Phiil Lynott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 Not many bands could make an ABBA song sound worse but Erasure managed it c1993 with their ABBA medley. And not forgetting anything Robson and Jerome did FFS. All covers, all awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 How about UB40's entire career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 Or West Life's Career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 I detest Blondie's version of 'The Tide is High'. A rock-steady classic by the Paragons from the early 70s, which Debbie and her chums took and made into an anodyne slice of faux-reggae, a common thing in the early 80s. The worst thing is that so many people assume that Blondie's version is the original. Jimmy Summerville's version of 'Don't Leave Me This Way'. The original (by Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes) oozes soul and hurt; Jimmy put a bouncy, up-tempo beat on it and somehow contrived to make it sound like a cheerful little ditty. It's a song about having your heart torn into shreds, for god's sake. On the subject, Simply Red did a horrible cover of anther Harold Melvin song, 'If You Don't Know Me By Now'. As Bexy said above, UB40 have made a career out of crap covers, though in truth I never cared for their earlier, original stuff too much either. Just didn't like Ali Campbell's voice. On the other side of things, I remember hearing Bread's original 'Anything I Own' and thinking how drippy it sounded compared to Ken Boothe's cover, which I'd heard first. Soft Cell's version of 'Tainted Love' is great; can't remember who the original is by, but it's a good song too. Towards the end of his life, Johnny Cash recorded a load of stuff with Rick Rubin, most of it covers. Some, like 'One', are brilliant - and I hate U2 with a passion. Others are awful. So it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swansea_Saint Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 Anything that f*cking glee sing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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