Hatch Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Tragic, but hardly the most surprising news this year.
miserableoldgit Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 I take no joy in hearing this but, if true, it is hardly a surprise. A sad waste.
saintscottofthenortham Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Waste of a life. A talented one at that.
saint lard Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Quelle surprise. The only person that could help her, was herself. She did'nt,so it was inevitable.
JackFrost Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 being reported on BBC news 24 now. She was found dead at 4pm this afternoon. I thought she was taking time off music to get her life back in order and trying to get off the drugs and booze. Obviously no one knows the cause of death yet but sadly 'drug overdose' is a strong possibility
Colinjb Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 A pity. A great pity, talent of this sort can so often be twinned with instability. Feel so sorry for her loved ones, I doubt there would have been anything they could have really done.
skintsaint Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 After watching how fecked she was in that video of her last concert its no surprise. Another wasted talent.
Sour Mash Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 What a wasted talent. I'm actually surprised (maybe a bit naively), as didn't realise she was that badly gone. People around her, including her family should take a look at themselves for not seriously gettting her sorted out once and for all.
rocknrollman no2 Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 You never see an old drug addict. Such a shame as she had a wonderful talent.
JackFrost Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 What a wasted talent. I'm actually surprised (maybe a bit naively), as didn't realise she was that badly gone. People around her, including her family should take a look at themselves for not seriously gettting her sorted out once and for all. Even if her friends and family had done all they could it wouldn't have guaranteed Amy Winehouse getting back on the straight and narrow. Besides it seemed as if that was the case, fellow recording artists are saying it seemed she'd put on a bit of weight and looking healthier. Maybe she relapsed, who knows?
bridge too far Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 You never see an old drug addict. Such a shame as she had a wonderful talent. This
trousers Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 A loss of life is obviously sad, but am I the only one who thought her 'talent' was over-rated?
saint lard Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 A loss of life is obviously sad, but am I the only one who thought her 'talent' was over-rated? Nope,not at all.
Sour Mash Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Even if her friends and family had done all they could it wouldn't have guaranteed Amy Winehouse getting back on the straight and narrow. Besides it seemed as if that was the case, fellow recording artists are saying it seemed she'd put on a bit of weight and looking healthier. Maybe she relapsed, who knows? True, none of us know what has or hasn't happened either way. Definite shame though whichever way you look at it.
1976_Child Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Who's Amy Winehouse? Seriously, never heard of her.
Lighthouse Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Not the least bit of sympathy from me. There are people starving in third world countries, people dying from terrible disease and people suffering repression at the hands of tyrants who would have given anything for the chance at life she had. She threw it all away through shear idiocy, it's pretty much impossible for me to feel sad. My only thought is that hopefully this will be an eye opener for young, impressionable people experimenting with drugs. Sure you may look cool now, but in 10 years you will probably be a highly flamable corpse lying in a pool of vomit in your own living room.
1976_Child Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 I've just looked her up on wikipedia. Apparently she was a pop singer? Was she big? Totally serious here, I've never heard of her until I read about her death on bbc news website.
St Marco Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 No surprises here really as was just a matter of time. The whole binge drinking thing will always catch up with you in the end. She was a great talent though, won 5 grammy's. Sad, but not surprised.
bridge too far Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 I'd never heard of this until just now http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club
JackFrost Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Not the least bit of sympathy from me. There are people starving in third world countries, people dying from terrible disease and people suffering repression at the hands of tyrants who would have given anything for the chance at life she had. She threw it all away through shear idiocy, it's pretty much impossible for me to feel sad. My only thought is that hopefully this will be an eye opener for young, impressionable people experimenting with drugs. Sure you may look cool now, but in 10 years you will probably be a highly flamable corpse lying in a pool of vomit in your own living room. “Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes" If you faced all the pressures she did who's to say you wouldn't turn to drugs and drink when you couldn't take anymore. You think you never would but you don't actually know for sure
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Back to Black was a great album, it is such a shame but as others have said quelle surprise. She joins a tragically great list of others such as Morrison and Hendrix.
Saint-scooby Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 No real surprise I guess, doing the stuff she did is not part of your 5 a day. Yes its a waste, but with over 90 killed by a nutter the day before, its a good time to reflect on the life we all have..
1976_Child Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 No real surprise I guess, doing the stuff she did is not part of your 5 a day. Yes its a waste, but with over 90 killed by a nutter the day before, its a good time to reflect on the life we all have.. He wasn't a nutter. He carefully planned it all in advance. It wasn't the case of someone losing it and blasting the crap out of a crowd. He was/is completely sane. And probably, in his head, gutted that he didn't get a century.
Mattio Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Tragic but not suprising, she could only has herself to blame (not that that makes it any less of a sad thing) I actually said a few weeks ago if this course of rehab doesn't work she's gunna be in serious trouble, sadly proved right. Never liked her music but for what it was it was great... RIP
Sour Mash Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 I've just looked her up on wikipedia. Apparently she was a pop singer? Was she big? Totally serious here, I've never heard of her until I read about her death on bbc news website. Yeah of course you haven't heard of her........................
1976_Child Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Yeah of course you haven't heard of her........................ Totally straight up. I have never heard of her. I've just listened to some of her music on spotify and some of it I have heard before on the radio in passing, just never had her name go with it. To be honest its not my sort of music so and I don't read the tittle-tattle press so why should I have heard of her?
Lighthouse Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 “Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes" If you faced all the pressures she did who's to say you wouldn't turn to drugs and drink when you couldn't take anymore. You think you never would but you don't actually know for sure Yeah I do, because I've got half a brain. No matter how bad things get, I will never turn to drugs to sort it out. Drugs have never sorted anyone's problems out, so why take them. Anyway, what are all these 'pressures'? Most of it was all media attention because of... you guessed it... her drug and alcohol problems. There are thousands of people in the world with similar public exposure who don't binge their lives away. You want pressure, try getting shot at in Afghanistan.
dingbattigger Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 You can only help an addict if they want to be helped. After previous stints in rehab it's clear she didn't want to be helped. Still a waste of a life though.
JackFrost Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Yeah I do, because I've got half a brain. No matter how bad things get, I will never turn to drugs to sort it out. Drugs have never sorted anyone's problems out, so why take them. Anyway, what are all these 'pressures'? Most of it was all media attention because of... you guessed it... her drug and alcohol problems. There are thousands of people in the world with similar public exposure who don't binge their lives away. You want pressure, try getting shot at in Afghanistan. The number of times I've heard people say that who have then turned to drinks and/or drugs when they've been through a chronic time, or gone through a traumatic event. Like I say, along with many people your convinced you'd never do it but you don't actually know you wouldn't. She was a musician as well and the drink/drug problems only started when she broke into the mainstream. She just couldn't handle it and didn't know how to. And like the thousands of wounded/traumatised soldiers who come back from Afghanistan/Iraq and are told "there's the back of the queue" at the job centre, they don't turn to drink/drugs because they think it'll sort their problems
Saint-scooby Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 He wasn't a nutter. He carefully planned it all in advance. It wasn't the case of someone losing it and blasting the crap out of a crowd. He was/is completely sane. And probably, in his head, gutted that he didn't get a century. Dont think someone who planned such an attack is thinking straight ?
1976_Child Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Dont think someone who planned such an attack is thinking straight ? No. Someone who plans such an attack is thinking perfectly straight. Perfectly rationally. They are focused, determined and know exactly what they are doing and in their minds they have a very rational explanation for why they are doing it. The idea that they are nutters or mentally ill is very wrong.
Sour Mash Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 The number of times I've heard people say that who have then turned to drinks and/or drugs when they've been through a chronic time, or gone through a traumatic event. Like I say, along with many people your convinced you'd never do it but you don't actually know you wouldn't. She was a musician as well and the drink/drug problems only started when she broke into the mainstream. She just couldn't handle it and didn't know how to. And like the thousands of wounded/traumatised soldiers who come back from Afghanistan/Iraq and are told "there's the back of the queue" at the job centre, they don't turn to drink/drugs because they think it'll sort their problems Exactly. While it may be difficult to have too much sympathy with fugures such as Winehouse, no-one wakes up one morning and thinks to them themselves - "I know what would be a laugh, why don't I get hooked on alcohol, crack cocaine and heroin". I'd have a bit of sympathy for anyone who struggled so much with whatever their life may be, that they felt the need to cope with it in such a way.
dubai_phil Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 A gifted but not a great singer. Her songs struck a chord with a lot of single girls. I saw her at Glastonbury a few years ago and was amazed she didn't pop off on stage. Too much, too fast and too easy and from there she never seemed to have the sort of people around her who could have helped her. the price of fame I suppose. A tragic loss, a wholly expected loss and a shame that someone in her entourage that no doubt made a lot of money from her couldn't get her sorted out. It was abundantly clear when she appeared on stage down here some months ago that she should never have been back on the road, subsequent events & her concert in Serbia makes one wonder whose bright idea that was. A Sad loss and a sad story A tragic death, and no doubt an Oscar winning Hollywood blockbuster coming soon.
Lighthouse Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Exactly. While it may be difficult to have too much sympathy with fugures such as Winehouse, no-one wakes up one morning and thinks to them themselves - "I know what would be a laugh, why don't I get hooked on alcohol, crack cocaine and heroin". I'd have a bit of sympathy for anyone who struggled so much with whatever their life may be, that they felt the need to cope with it in such a way. I'd have thought most people who end up with drug addictions start of taking it recreationally, then become hooked and take higher doses as a form of escapism when life gets tough. I've never taken any recreational drugs in my life, but if something tragic happened in my life, I wouldn't say to my self, "well, that's pretty sh*t, I'm off to go score some crack to make it all better". Nobody wakes up and says, "I'll get hooked on crack". They give in to peer pressure, try it, then just lose control of the habbit.
St Chalet Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Easy Point for Saint Lard http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?27273-The-dead-pool-2011...&highlight=Winehouse One great album & one short life will ensure that she will be accorded legend status.
Saintandy666 Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Easy Point for Saint Lard http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?27273-The-dead-pool-2011...&highlight=Winehouse One great album & one short life will ensure that she will be accorded legend status. Two great albums!!!
Micky Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 What a wasted talent. I'm actually surprised (maybe a bit naively), as didn't realise she was that badly gone. People around her, including her family should take a look at themselves for not seriously gettting her sorted out once and for all. Totally agree, on the last AW thread I said that it was time for her to be pulled out of the spotlight and time for people to help her. Aparently that is exactly what was meant to be happening, it was reported that she wouldn't be working again until she was ok. Ultimately it's her life (or was) - but I think there are a lot of people who have let her down badly.
dingbattigger Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Totally agree, on the last AW thread I said that it was time for her to be pulled out of the spotlight and time for people to help her. Aparently that is exactly what was meant to be happening, it was reported that she wouldn't be working again until she was ok. Ultimately it's her life (or was) - but I think there are a lot of people who have let her down badly. Mrs D here, as the daughter of an addict I don't blame her family at all. If she didn't want to be helped then nothing they did or didn't do would make a bit of difference. People have to WANT to be helped or it doesn't work.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 23 July, 2011 Author Posted 23 July, 2011 She joins a tragically great list of others such as Morrison and Hendrix. I would put her in the Janis Joplin box, good but not great. Jim Morrison was great and Hendrix a genius, you can't really compare her to either, as sad as her passing is. Luckily this is a pretty isolated case nowadays, years ago there were whole bands ruined by drugs, and many many tragic cases. People like Clapton and Elton John not only broke their habit's but are helping others to do so now..............
Dimond Geezer Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Yet another of the 27 club Jimi Hendrix, Curt Cobain, Janis Joplin and Jim Morrison, always thought she wouldn't be long for this world. Not a fan, I always thought she was over-rated, but hope she's at peace now.
Hamilton Saint Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 He wasn't a nutter. He carefully planned it all in advance. It wasn't the case of someone losing it and blasting the crap out of a crowd. He was/is completely sane. And probably, in his head, gutted that he didn't get a century. Just because he carefully planned it doesn't mean he's sane. How do you know he's "completely sane"? And if, "in his head, he was gutted that he didn't get a century", wouldn't that indicate that just perhaps he wasn't quite "completely sane"? Was Charles Manson sane when he carefully planned the Sharon Tate murders?
alpine_saint Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Waste of a life. A talented one at that. Yes, but she seemed determined to take the Jim Morrisson route....
revolution saint Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Never really a fan of hers, in fact if I'm honest her music was irritating. I suppose in a way it's quite an achievement to elevate bland, dinner party music to irritating. That said it's always sad when someone young dies.
SuperMikey Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 F*cking hell, can't believe that. Huge talent, huge character, huge loss. Great memories of seeing her at Glasto 09 decking some bloke in the crowd for pinching her bum! RIP
Weston Super Saint Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 F*cking hell, can't believe that. Seriously? Which bit are you struggling to believe? The woman has been in the papers most months for the last three or four years, with various visits to re-hab centres, drug fueled binges, and other exploits. Is it such a stretch of the imagination to believe that someone who hit the self destruct button many years ago has finally departed this mortal coil?
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