dune Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 LOL at Dune's silence Some of us have busy social lives and don't spend all day on a silly internet forum. Toodlepip. So much to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 Some of us have busy social lives and don't spend all day on a silly internet forum. Toodlepip. So much to do. Exactly, so why were you so quiet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 Would you like to retract this statement? Dune was stating what several reports were saying at the time. Those reports turned put to be wrong. Not sure why Dune should retract a statement that was accurately reflecting what some media reports were saying at the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 Some of us have busy social lives and don't spend all day on a silly internet forum. Toodlepip. So much to do. That's fair enough. Who actually made your 11,800 posts then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 Definately one of yours Dune: 'Breivik had talked admiringly about conversations he had had with unnamed English Defence League members and the organisation Stop the Islamification of Europe over the success of provocative street actions leading to violence."I have on some occasions had discussions with SIOE and EDL and recommended them to use certain strategies," he wrote two years ago.' http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/23/norway-attacks-utoya-gunman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 Definately one of yours Dune: 'Breivik had talked admiringly about conversations he had had with unnamed English Defence League members and the organisation Stop the Islamification of Europe over the success of provocative street actions leading to violence."I have on some occasions had discussions with SIOE and EDL and recommended them to use certain strategies," he wrote two years ago.' http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/23/norway-attacks-utoya-gunman Not all Muslims are terrorists and now, it seems, not all terrorists are Muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 Awful awful tragedy, but why Norway? It makes no sense to me - aside from the assailants being Norweigan of course. Got family friends in Oslo, hope they're ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 24 July, 2011 Share Posted 24 July, 2011 The guy is starting to sound more and more like one of those fundamentalist Christian Zionist loons. Particularly as one of the main debates on the island was going to be recognising Palestine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 24 July, 2011 Share Posted 24 July, 2011 Mr Breivik has been charged with committing acts of terrorism, and is due to appear in court on Monday when judges will decide whether he should be detained as the investigation continues I wonder how long that decision will take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 24 July, 2011 Share Posted 24 July, 2011 Just terrible. 80-90 youngsters killed by som F U C K with crazy thoughts about himself. Says he's gonna be lookes upon as a hero in a few generations time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 24 July, 2011 Share Posted 24 July, 2011 Definately one of yours Dune: 'Breivik had talked admiringly about conversations he had had with unnamed English Defence League members and the organisation Stop the Islamification of Europe over the success of provocative street actions leading to violence."I have on some occasions had discussions with SIOE and EDL and recommended them to use certain strategies," he wrote two years ago.' http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/23/norway-attacks-utoya-gunman no surprise its amazing how many of the far right are loners before committing their hate crimes to jusitfy their warped ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Majestic Channon Posted 24 July, 2011 Share Posted 24 July, 2011 Some of us have busy social lives and don't spend all day on a silly internet forum. Toodlepip. So much to do. Hilarious coming from stanley the dunce who's life revolves around this forum If a muslim commited these crimes you would have been on here all day lapping it up, but with him being one of your own you can't even condemn what he did. Your'e one sad little nazi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 24 July, 2011 Share Posted 24 July, 2011 Hilarious coming from stanley the dunce who's life revolves around this forum If a muslim commited these crimes you would have been on here all day lapping it up, but with him being one of your own you can't even condemn what he did. Your'e one sad little nazi Of course I condemn what he did you idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Majestic Channon Posted 24 July, 2011 Share Posted 24 July, 2011 On here at least.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 24 July, 2011 Share Posted 24 July, 2011 On here at least.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 24 July, 2011 Share Posted 24 July, 2011 Of course I condemn what he did you idiot. But not what he believes in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 24 July, 2011 Share Posted 24 July, 2011 Apparently the max sentence he can receive is 21 years under Norwegian law, that is a pittance for what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 24 July, 2011 Share Posted 24 July, 2011 I have to admit at first I thought it would have been a muslim extremist, which is a fair assumption given their record. It is interesting how the reporting is different now it's turned out to be a Christian, it's all "lone mad gunman massacre" not "Christian extremist terrorist". Ironically this nut job will probably help the cause of peaceful muslims by highlighting the difference between the fanatics and the normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Saint Posted 24 July, 2011 Share Posted 24 July, 2011 Sorry, been away from this site the last few days - been busy finding out if any of my friends are amoung the dead, happy to say, all have survived. Norway is in state of shock and grief now. Very emotional scenes at Oslo Cathedral today. The King and Prime Minister Stoltenberg gave good and comforting speeches. More and more details are coming through now. Nightmare stories from the youth camp at Utøya, more and more information about the madman and his background. This seems to be the work of a single right-wing extremist, who had sympathies with most European right-wing elements. His own personal crusade was against the Norwegian Labour Party, but the entire country has responded with a big "no" to this. This was an attack on Norway and democracy. The general feeling here is one of defiance against his motives and the entire right-wing community. His visions are only shared by a few silent minority. But at the moment grief and sorrow are prevailing. The death count stands at 94 with 17 in critical condition from the shooting. 7 are declared dead from the blast, but all buildings have not been searched at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 I have to admit at first I thought it would have been a muslim extremist, which is a fair assumption given their record. It is interesting how the reporting is different now it's turned out to be a Christian, it's all "lone mad gunman massacre" not "Christian extremist terrorist". Ironically this nut job will probably help the cause of peaceful muslims by highlighting the difference between the fanatics and the normal. The same accusations in the immediate aftermath of Timothy McVeigh's bombing of the Oklahoma federal building in 1995. Then, of course, it turned out that he was a right-wing fanatic with numerous links to fringe organisations - and he had accomplices. I'd be surprised if this lunatic doesn't. Depressing that Breivik was such an enthusiastic supporter of the EDL, and had probably been on at least one of the EDL's customary 'marches' to beat up and terrorise Asian shopkeepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 It's seems that it wasn't just the EDL this terrorist had in common with out sleeping cell here. Oh no this christian extremist was also an avid reader of an Extreme Fascist publication known as the "the Daily Mail" and was held in awe of one Melanie Philips (a well known christian extremist who uses the right wing cabal that is the media to her advantage) & one Jeremy Clarkson (a minor celebrity who uses his friends in the Fascist elite to give credence to his ideas) http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/82162,news-comment,news-politics,what-made-anders-breivik-quote-from-the-daily-mail-melanie-phillips-jeremy-clarkson Once more i pine for the good old days when young courageous men took on these fascists, i mean just ask the people of Cuba how happy they are now they have none of that stupid fascist-correctness in the media defaming the man that gave them their brilliant healthcare system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 He was also a fan of Mill - does that mean Mill is by implication an extreme fascist? Of course not. I will defend Clarkson's right to express himself to my death - he is the modern Shakespeare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 I assume if this was a Muslin Extremist we'd be on 8 pages by now what with some of the demographics of this site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 I thought Melanie Phillips was Jewish, not Christian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 He was also a fan of Mill - does that mean Mill is by implication an extreme fascist? Of course not. I will defend Clarkson's right to express himself to my death - he is the modern Shakespeare. That's so typical of the fascist elite on here, they always jump into any conversation on their high horses and won't even let us take part in pogroms or sensible gulaging of unsavoury forces any more. It's right wing correctness gone mad, and wouldn't have been tolerated in the good old days of kropotkin. I think the evidence of the bombing proves that anyone he agreed with must be a christian fascist extremist, even if they're not publicly christian they're still part of the conspiracy that runs the country, anyone that can't see that i clearly just immature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 Odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 I thought Melanie Phillips was Jewish, not Christian? As I mentioned before one of Breiviks main motivation is Zionism. Same with a lot of the guys behind the EDL. Also Geert Wilders in Holland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 Just terrible. 80-90 youngsters killed by som F U C K with crazy thoughts about himself. Says he's gonna be lookes upon as a hero in a few generations time. He's already being looked upon as a hero by some. You won't have to look very far either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14273546 About bloody time too. For far too long these mongs have been subverting the stability of this nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14273546 About bloody time too. For far too long these mongs have been subverting the stability of this nation. TBF, it's just a handful of people who are easily ignored. They are not worthy of any sort of counter-movement or a great deal of resource allocation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 I think this could be the long overdue nail in the EDL's coffin, there can't be much appetite for putting up with their racist b*ll*x from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 I think this could be the long overdue nail in the EDL's coffin, there can't be much appetite for putting up with their racist b*ll*x from now on. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-14278957 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-14278957 Now there's a surprise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 What on earth gets into the heads of extreme right-wingers? The (formerly)Murdoch-sponsored right-wing loony Glenn Beck compares the victims on Utoya Island to the Hitler Youth. A pretty good indication, I think, of the deep rage experienced by borderline personalities like Beck, who are evidently barely able to constrain themselves from screaming 'Good!' at the news that left-leaning teenagers are murdered en masse. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8660986/Norway-shooting-Glenn-Beck-compares-dead-teenagers-to-Hitler-youth.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-14278957 He's got air time on Newsnight in a moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 What on earth gets into the heads of extreme right-wingers? The (formerly)Murdoch-sponsored right-wing loony Glenn Beck compares the victims on Utoya Island to the Hitler Youth. A pretty good indication, I think, of the deep rage experienced by borderline personalities like Beck, who are evidently barely able to constrain themselves from screaming 'Good!' at the news that left-leaning teenagers are murdered en masse. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8660986/Norway-shooting-Glenn-Beck-compares-dead-teenagers-to-Hitler-youth.html I truly loathe this man. His right-wing views were considered too extreme even for Fox News for pity's sake - why does he still get airtime!? It seems he is almost as much of a hypocrite as Arsene Wenger as well. Just have a quick read of these two snippets from that article... Beck, a multimillionaire darling of the Tea Party movement, said on his nationally-syndicated radio show: "There was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like, you know, the Hitler youth. I mean, who does a camp for kids that's all about politics? Disturbing." Despite Beck expressing surprise that political movements would hold camps for children, followers of his 9/12 Project – which aims to "recapture the spirit of the day after America was attacked" – have this summer been doing just that. Organisers of the "vacation liberty schools" in several states told the Daily Telegraph how they taught children as young as eight a Tea Party-endorsed curriculum spanning religion, economics and political principles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 25 July, 2011 Share Posted 25 July, 2011 What on earth gets into the heads of extreme right-wingers? The (formerly)Murdoch-sponsored right-wing loony Glenn Beck compares the victims on Utoya Island to the Hitler Youth. A pretty good indication, I think, of the deep rage experienced by borderline personalities like Beck, who are evidently barely able to constrain themselves from screaming 'Good!' at the news that left-leaning teenagers are murdered en masse. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8660986/Norway-shooting-Glenn-Beck-compares-dead-teenagers-to-Hitler-youth.html 1976 child's true identity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 Some of us have busy social lives and don't spend all day on a silly internet forum. Toodlepip. So much to do.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14259989 Seems to have similar views to you Stanley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 ericb = stain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 I have been very moved and impressed by the quiet dignity of the Norwegian people during this dreadful time. And by their determination to refuse to let these events change their basic tenets of openess and freedom of expression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefunkygibbons Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 Hopefully things will improve quickly If I had any talent for languages, I would live in Norway, best quality of live anywhere in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 Apparently the max sentence he can receive is 21 years under Norwegian law, that is a pittance for what he did. There was a guy on Sky (terrorist expert) saying that in any other Country he would have been shot dead, even if he did try and surrender. He said that it is typical of the peaceful nature of the Norwegians that he wasn't.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 Say what you want about Breivik, and you will, but his manifesto has taught me how you extract images from Word. A simple task that has eluded me for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14259989 Seems to have similar views to you Stanley. There is nothing wrong with being against Marxism/Socialism. From Winston chrchill to Margaret Thatcher we have people with a deep rooted hatred for this irresponsible political ideology. That said the way to fight Socialism is through debate and reason, and not through acts of terrorism and mass murder. The images of the young people murdered on that island are very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 (edited) That said the way to fight Socialism is through debate and reason. You have a way to go before you can appeal to 'reason'. Try reading and learning a bit what you think you're opposed to - then you might be able to argue against it with something resembling reason. Andy's broader point seems true enough to me. You have allied yourself with the 'reasonable' EDL. So did Breivik. I remember you even claimed you went on one of these so-called 'marches' (which are never more than an excuse for a bit of good old p aki-bashing). So did Breivik. The point is this: if Breivik's actions didn't give you a moment's pause, then you really have a problem. Edited 26 July, 2011 by Verbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 There is nothing wrong with being against Marxism/Socialism. From Winston chrchill to Margaret Thatcher we have people with a deep rooted hatred for this irresponsible political ideology. That said the way to fight Socialism is through debate and reason, and not through acts of terrorism and mass murder. The images of the young people murdered on that island are very sad. Give it a rest for once, parrotboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 There is nothing wrong with being against Marxism/Socialism. From Winston chrchill to Margaret Thatcher we have people with a deep rooted hatred for this irresponsible political ideology. That said the way to fight Socialism is through debate and reason, and not through acts of terrorism and mass murder. The images of the young people murdered on that island are very sad. http://newsthump.com/2011/07/25/norwegian-gunman-has-given-hate-filled-racists-a-bad-name-insist-edl/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 http://newsthump.com/2011/07/25/norwegian-gunman-has-given-hate-filled-racists-a-bad-name-insist-edl/ Made me laugh. You don't happen to be called Henry Green do you Dune? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 I thought Melanie Phillips was Jewish, not Christian? no shes just a nasty vile women Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 no shes just a nasty vile women Oh I know that It's just that earlier someone said she was a Christian. That's what I was disputing - and I was right! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanie_Phillips It's one of the reasons I found her intolerance so despicable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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