latter day saint Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 That explains the ticket tax. indeed. i'm sure he receives it in gold coins which he counts endlessly, as he laughs at the silly peasant fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 WTF.... this is feckin sad. I have absolutely no problem with fans being critical of the management when things are up sheidt creek, because something is obviously going wrong, but what teh feck is this attitude thatsome fans are constantly looking for ammunition to slag the chairman and CEO when things are going right?... Jeez... envious of a big wedge is what i suggest it is... We each make our own judgements on whethere we believe what we pay for is value for money and its our choice... this constant barage of crap about 'price of this, or price of that' moan moan moan whinge, FFS, there are 1000s of things I cant afford - and you have to make a choice - if you dont believe you get value from teh club or Cortese, dont buy it, dont go - and if enough folk agree the club will have to drop prices based on simple supply and demand economics - if you want to see the club succeed it has to be paid for... yet some dont seem prepared for that. If you want football to be like 50 years ago, go and watch Totton, they could do with yor cash, and you can take the same bus home as the players... if you want saints to be the best they can be then you need to except the price of that success - your choice - but FFS, make your minds up - either get behind the club, stop the whinging or stop supporting and go shopping with the missus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 After the run we've had since Markus arrived on the scene? Bargain. May he earn double that this year with win & promotion bonuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 ^ This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 That explains the ticket tax. Odd, I thought you'd be in favour of a successful private company paying its directors what it wants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 indeed. i'm sure he receives it in gold coins which he counts endlessly, as he laughs at the silly peasant fans. 200,000 x ticket tax = Corteses salary. I hope this makes you feel good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 Odd, I thought you'd be in favour of a successful private company paying its directors what it wants? Are you your little brothers parrot or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 actually it's not. It's the Leibherr's company. Oh and while we are at it, it was Marcus' money that saved us not Cortese. He hasn't put a penny in. Option A: Nicola persuades his close friend a billionaire, who would have had no interest otherwise, to buy Saints and save the club from liquidation, not to mention quickly gaining promotion and giving us rosy prospects for the upcoming years. He is rewarded with a £600,000 salary. Option B: Nicola doesn't persuade ML to buy Saints, and the club sinks below the waves. I choose option A. Thanks NC for all you've done so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 200,000 x ticket tax = Corteses salary. I hope this makes you feel good. Are you your little brothers parrot or something? Are you a lonely/grumpy old man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 Are you a lonely/grumpy old man? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 (edited) Are you your little brothers parrot or something? Big brothers. Second post this week where you have totally contradicted your political views though, you must try harder duney because you're starting to unravel you little closet socialist you! lighten up old boy. Edited 22 July, 2011 by LGTL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 TBF If it's a net benefit to the club, it doesn't matter what he earns and if it's bonus related, then all the better. Rather that than see these fat cats on the telly, whose companies or businesses are slowly going down the pan or requiring tax payers bail outs, and yet they still get six or seven figure salary top-ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 I don't begrudge him a penny of that £600k. They way the club is moving forward is what i think the vast majority of supporters were dreaming/hoping for. No pleasing some people FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sold To The Man @ The Bar Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 Who really cares, it’s not to the detriment of the club ... it’s not as if it was our last £600,000 and we couldn’t pay the bills, buy players or expand our facilities. It’s a private company and if the owner/trust agrees its value for money then who the hell has the right to challenge it? It’s a non-story, just a chance for jealous, ill-informed and un-commercially aware people to use it to dig at the club .... a few years ago we were dead in the water, today we can pay what we want to who we want and I’m loving it .... COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 To be fair Chez if it wasn't for Cortese then Marcus would never have been aware of us . Yes it was Marcus's money but you could argue also that Cortese saved us by selling Marcus the dream. Don't personaly think its an extortionate amount. Probably equivelant to our wages for the top players. FFS I was being sarcastic. Marcus saved us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 Seriously this thread must be a joke.. who gives a ****. Invest 25million in football team, and then take a salary. The bloody cheek. There's me thinking Marcus invested 25million and didn't take a salary. For the record I don't care that Cortese takes a sizeable wage, but it is double or even four times Lowe's wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenSaint Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 dont care how much he is on just as long he keep pumping money into the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madruss Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 Cortese was the one to convince Markus to buy the club in the first place, he can take whatever salary he wants IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 dont care how much he is on just as long he keep pumping money into the club. as I said earlier in the thread people have forgot that it was Marcus' money that saved us and it's the Leibherrs loans that are bankrolling us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 600k?! Surprised anyone would get out of bed for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 NC is cheap at ther price, its only what John Terry gets every month-and I know which I would rather have, thanks NC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 £600k! OMG OMG OMG I bet he parks for freevas well. Is this really all you have to worry about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 600k for all you whinging people is cheap, what the fk would you want, nothing to do on a saturday afternoon because SFC no longer existed? So lets all hound the chairman out, where would we be then? its probably down to him that the Liebher family are still involved. Are you paying any more for your tickets than would be expected if we never dropped out of the championship let alone the premiership, if you feel that aggrieved just spend your money else where, or fk off down the road and support another team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 22 July, 2011 So, roughly speaking, costs every fan the equivalent of an extra £1.25 per game (whether that be from increased ticket price, "Cortese Tax (****ing stupid title) parking fees, eating more burgers at SMS or wherever,) that covers the salary of the one man that not only masterminded the rescue of the club but has changed virtually all of it's business practices to ensure it's continued survival and (hopefully) future successes. I'd have thought any fan would see that as good value Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. Stop digging. You made a ***t of yourself on this thread...... time to leave it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 What a complete non-story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 Rubbish thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 Stupid thread. If Cortese continues to run this club as brilliantly and professionaly for some years to come and gets us in the Premiership and beyond then surely he's earned every penny. How much do other Chairmen of top clubs get paid? Considering some managers are on 10m a year I reckon 600k for one of the best Chairman in the country is a fair price. This... nuff said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 To be fair, this is about three times the Prime Ministers salary.... ....but then he is having to deal with a far more fickle and partizan proletariat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 If I was running a professional football club as Chairman and managing director I'd expect to be earning more than any other employee. But with SFC privately owned, what the person running the enterprise is paid is not anyone else's business. If the Echo were hoping this would be a sensational disclosure leading to unrest amongst the fans, they'll be disapointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 (edited) as I said earlier in the thread people have forgot that it was Marcus' money that saved us and it's the Leibherrs loans that are bankrolling us. People! What people? Everyone realises that it was Markus who financed the takeover, they are also now realising more and more that NC was/is the driving force behind the takeover and the progress being made. NC is even making todays event a big reminder to ensure nobody forgets Markus (not that i think they have). You can't even spell his name right FFS! Edited 23 July, 2011 by djharvey added extra comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 I think the article highlights the fact that in football there are now loads of businessmen earning a lot of money plus players and agents whilst us fans are having to pay more. We have had Delieu Hone and Lowe being attacked for taking loads of money out of the company in wages and bonuses but now it seems acceptable that Cortese is doing the same. £600000 seems a lot of money but that appears to be the going rate and as we have been successful recently it is not a problem but it could be if things go wrong. Back to the football though the two signings of Cork and De Ridder are really good news and shows that the club is moving forward well. The only thing we maybe lacking is a strong leader on the field to lead what is a relatively young and inexperienced midfield but I doubt that there are many better squads in the Championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 I do wonder why some people choose to 'support' Saints yet spend a significant amount of time continually digging at The Club. Plenty of other clubs out there....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 I do wonder why some people choose to 'support' Saints yet spend a significant amount of time continually digging at The Club. Plenty of other clubs out there....... It is quite normal to for people to complain if they think their club is not be running well or there are other problems and I remember lots of complaints with regard to past managers and chairman. Highlighting the Chairman's salary is not a dig it just shows how much he is getting As I said above lots of money is going to Executives Managers Players and agents whilst ticket prices are going up that is just an observation. With regard to wages I was wondering if the lowly paid employees at St Mary's were on the minimum wage or whether they are paid better but that is what happens elsewhere but it would be nice if they were able to take advantage of the financial success of the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 Actually it is comforting to see how many people see this as a non story. I had no problem with Rupert taking renumeration and I don't have a problem with NC doing so. The judgment on whther you earn that money is whether you keep your job. NC has; RL didn't. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 Actually it is comforting to see how many people see this as a non story. I had no problem with Rupert taking renumeration and I don't have a problem with NC doing so. The judgment on whther you earn that money is whether you keep your job. NC has; RL didn't. End of story. Agree, apart from Dunce (who has incidently made a right fool of himself on the Oslo bombing thread), how many others have actually objected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 'From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs' - Karl Marx. Putting to one side for the moment the merits (or not) of communist theology, does any human being really need £600k a year to live on ? Can they even possibly 'deserve' such a vast fortune when so many exist in absolute poverty ? Well 'no' is the only possible answer to my way of thinking, but I've little doubt that immersed in our all persuasive 'greed is good' culture many will vehemently disagree. Just a general point, no a dig at any one individual in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. Stop digging. You made a ***t of yourself on this thread...... time to leave it alone. I take it you understood the meaning then Gemmel, I had to look it up I'll second your sentiments though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 (edited) Stop digging. You made a ***t of yourself on this thread...... time to leave it alone. has he ****. He has expressed an opinion that the majority, but not all on here disagree with. Edited 23 July, 2011 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 (edited) People! What people? Everyone realises that it was Markus who financed the takeover, No he didn't help save the club. He SAVED the club. As I said, as time goes by Cortese seems to be seen more and more as the saviour, yourself included. Apologies for incorrect spelling of Markus. Mate is spelt Marcus so hard to stop myself. Edited 23 July, 2011 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 I'm not going to give the article or this thread a read because I'm not interested. The key difference between Lowe and Cortese is that Lowe owned a minority of shares AND chaired the club. Cortese just chairs the club which is owned by the family. It was corporately wrong for Lowe to Chair the club under the PLC structure. Just plain wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 We have had Delieu Hone and Lowe being attacked for taking loads of money out of the company in wages and bonuses but now it seems acceptable that Cortese is doing the same. The difference being that Cortese secured us a decent owner with funds and delivered a cup win AND promotion. I have zero problem with what he earns, because unlike the tw*ts you named that preceeded him, he's earned it with results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 I'm not going to give the article or this thread a read because I'm not interested. The key difference between Lowe and Cortese is that Lowe owned a minority of shares AND chaired the club. Cortese just chairs the club which is owned by the family. It was corporately wrong for Lowe to Chair the club under the PLC structure. Just plain wrong. And then to deny Wilde (whatever you may think of him) a seat on the board, despite him owning MORE shares than Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 The difference being that Cortese secured us a decent owner with funds and delivered a cup win AND promotion. I have zero problem with what he earns, because unlike the tw*ts you named that preceeded him, he's earned it with results. And then to deny Wilde (whatever you may think of him) a seat on the board, despite him owning MORE shares than Lowe. Quite Alpine - good call on both counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 The difference being that Cortese secured us a decent owner with funds and delivered a cup win AND promotion. I have zero problem with what he earns, because unlike the tw*ts you named that preceeded him, he's earned it with results. Thats what I said so I thought The other people you mentioned were running the club in a higher division than Cortese has done so far with less financial muscle and did have Burley for the manager as well which did not help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 As I said, as time goes by Cortese seems to be seen more and more as the saviour, yourself included. Apologies for incorrect spelling of Markus. Mate is spelt Marcus so hard to stop myself. You didn't even spell Liebherr correctly, so the lame excuse doesn't wash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 You didn't even spell Liebherr correctly, so the lame excuse doesn't wash! poor spelling and a lack of care and attention when posting undoes me again. Blast. Oh well time to bow out quietly. I am probably wrong anyway. Cortese is probably the best and I should thank my lucky stars our paths crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 poor spelling and a lack of care and attention when posting undoes me again. Blast. Oh well time to bow out quietly. I am probably wrong anyway. Cortese is probably the best and I should thank my lucky stars our paths crossed. There's a good lad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 Are the Cortese bashers ever going to give it a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyin Posted 23 July, 2011 Share Posted 23 July, 2011 Here we go again. People with small minds and perpetually negative attitudes would be the death of this club if they got any closer than a seat in the stands. Which, thank God, they won't. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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