Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 silversaint said: Any sign of the kid at the game today? It doesn't sound like he stood out if he was, given the no. of replies!
CWD Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 silversaint said: Any sign of the kid at the game today? Nope, he didn't play. Neither did Lambert.
silversaint Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 CWD said: Nope, he didn't play. Neither did Lambert. I meant in the stands, can't have been too hard to spot considering the crowd.
Matthew Le God Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 silversaint said: I meant in the stands, can't have been too hard to spot considering the crowd. If he was there, he'd have been in the Itchen stand. The public were in the Northam and mainly the Kingsland.
SaintNeil90 Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Glasgow_Saint said: Delayed due to work permit Should be ok, he has been capped for his country a fair few times.
TopGun Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 (edited) So it looks like Sir Woody deserves an apology from the many who gave him crap about a player called Jemmal possibly signing. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?31383-Player-Medical-11.40am-today http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?31383-Player-Medical-11.40am-today&p=1094836#post1094836 I wouldn't hold your hopes up too much Sir Woody! Edited 23 July, 2011 by TopGun
doughnutman Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Where is it said that the move is delayed due to permit?
S-Clarke Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 Has it been confirmed then? Can't see it anywhere..
CWD Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 silversaint said: I meant in the stands, can't have been too hard to spot considering the crowd. Sorry, thought you were talking about De Ridder! A rumour around the ground today was that Leroy Lita signed this morning. Heard a few different groups talking about it.
shirleysfc Posted 23 July, 2011 Posted 23 July, 2011 CWD said: Sorry, thought you were talking about De Ridder! A rumour around the ground today was that Leroy Lita signed this morning. Heard a few different groups talking about it. He played for boro today so I'd suggest that's unlikely.
SaintRichmond Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 Glasgow_Saint said: Delayed due to work permit Passed medical Signing delayed because player cannot make up his mind .... (Translation) Waiting for Stoke to revise their offer
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 SaintRichmond said: Passed medical Signing delayed because player cannot make up his mind .... (Translation) Waiting for Stoke to revise their offer Doesn't immediately scream out that he's got the commitment we're looking for, if true...
Gingeletiss Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 Ivan Katalinic said: Doesn't immediately scream out that he's got the commitment we're looking for' date=' if true...[/quote'] That was my thought.
Lambert7 Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 SaintRichmond said: Passed medical Signing delayed because player cannot make up his mind .... (Translation) Waiting for Stoke to revise their offer How do you know this?
SaintRichmond Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 Lambert7 said: How do you know this? Friend of a friend ( I believe the scenario has substance )
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 Ivan Katalinic said: Doesn't immediately scream out that he's got the commitment we're looking for' date=' if true...[/quote'] I find this kind of attitude strange. I would always wait to hear all offers, especially if 1 was from a newly promoted Champ team, and the other an established Prem team.
beatlesaint Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 SaintRichmond said: Friend of a friend ( I believe the scenario has substance ) Well if its true I would be surprised if NC and NA dont pull the plug and look elsewhere for a centre back.
SaintRichmond Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 beatlesaint said: Well if its true I would be surprised if NC and NA dont pull the plug and look elsewhere for a centre back. I agree What makes me think that the scenario is correct, is the very fact that NA was quite positive that there would be TWO signings prior to the Leibherr Tribute Day Only one of those transpired Whilst I can see that the Prem would have more "pull", I still think that the "attitude " by Jemal, IF true, is not the sort that would blend in well with what appears to be a "settled"squad
Saint Charlie Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 NA was very positive about someone else signing very very soon if you listen to his Saints Player article on De Ridder. Smiled and said would be announced once its all signed and completed. Jemal has every right to consider what he wants to do, its a big move for him but he sounds exactly what we need so lets hope it gets completed!
pap Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 Some tweetage from @upthesaints indicating that a move for Matt Kilgallon might be on the cards. If true, NA clearly not putting all eggs in one basket.
Saint Charlie Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 pap said: Some tweetage from @upthesaints indicating that a move for Matt Kilgallon might be on the cards. If true, NA clearly not putting all eggs in one basket. That account always tweets stuff like that. Likely no substance to it!
saint lard Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 Saint Charlie said: That account always tweets stuff like that. Likely no substance to it! Um novo sócio para Jose Fonte. Southampton alcança um £ acordo 2m com Sunderland para defensor Matt Kilgallon Southampton reach a £2m deal with Sunderland for defender Matt Kilgallon is being reported, in Portugal.
david in sweden Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 S-Clarke said: Has it been confirmed then? Can't see it anywhere.. Of course it's better PR to spread out the news of signings rather than coming up with 2 or 3 at a time ...isn't it? ....and of course tactically good not to sign someone on the eve of a game .
CB Fry Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 david in sweden said: Of course it's better PR to spread out the news of signings rather than coming up with 2 or 3 at a time ...isn't it? ....and of course tactically good not to sign someone on the eve of a game . Eve of what game? A couple of 45 minute kickabouts. Give me strength.
derry Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 Woodgate played for Stoke yesterday, he might be waiting for a long time.
benjii Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 Dibden Purlieu Saint said: I find this kind of attitude strange. I would always wait to hear all offers, especially if 1 was from a newly promoted Champ team, and the other an established Prem team. Exactly. I knew the half-witted, "ifhe daant bleed red n woite e can faak off" attitude would rear its head.
beatlesaint Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 benjii said: Exactly. I knew the half-witted, "ifhe daant bleed red n woite e can faak off" attitude would rear its head. Apart from one post in this thread where the guy states, quite righty, that it doesnt scream out commitment - which is what NA often talks about - where is the evidence of this then ? Nobody has stated anything of the sort. So before labelling people as half witted get your facts right please !
pap Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 If his choices are between Southampton and Stoke, I suggest he visit both places before coming to a decision.
Guan 2.0 Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 Lol@ some people on this thread questioning a particular player's commitment/desire to come to us, when there is no actual proof we have bid for him in the first place, and the even more dubious 'evidence' of his fickle nature in delaying signing for us comes from some alledged third hand personal interpretation of events from "a friend of a friend" of a known malcontent poster. But yeah, we should make judgements on wanting players to sign on this sort of basis.
K,Billy's supersound Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 ifhe daant bleed red n woite e can faak orff
capitalsaint Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 Guan 2.0 said: Lol@ some people on this thread questioning a particular player's commitment/desire to come to us, when there is no actual proof we have bid for him in the first place, and the even more dubious 'evidence' of his fickle nature in delaying signing for us comes from some alledged third hand personal interpretation of events from "a friend of a friend" of a known malcontent poster. But yeah, we should make judgements on wanting players to sign on this sort of basis. Even though the two posts that contain the sort of thing you're on about actually both say 'if true', and so are accepting that the info might not be true, in which case they accept the points would not be valid. Think you were a bit too keen to make a point there, let the facts get in the way, which is ironic.
Guan 2.0 Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 K said: ifhe daant bleed red n woite e can faak orff Well said, LB!
Guan 2.0 Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 capitalsaint said: Even though the two posts that contain the sort of thing you're on about actually both say 'if true', and so are accepting that the info might not be true, in which case they accept the points would not be valid. Think you were a bit too keen to make a point there, let the facts get in the way, which is ironic. Actually, 3 people have said it, if you want to be pedant who misses the point (which you obviously are trying to be). One after dropping info that puts a sour note on the potential transfer. But it's ok, because just like saying 'allegedly' after announcing someone kicks rabbits to death as part of their daily recreation, by saying 'if true' you get to be an ITK superfan and pass off any old 'rumour' their personal prejudices have allowed for, and then either enhance or redact that opinion at a later date. Oh, and really, by your standard, shouldn’t they say if true twice? Once for the transfer itself, and once for the offer from Stoke Here's an example "If Jemal kicks rabbits to death as part of his daily recreation (which I’ve heard from Santa Claus he allegedly does), then I don't want this sick twisted bordering on early-signs-of-serial killer to turn out for the saints. IF TRUE". If he signs and has a bad game, I can claim ITK and use it to launch into him after a bad game. If he doesn’t, then I can lead the “I’m glad that Saints didn’t sign that Leporidae murderer, Stoke are welcome to him” type comments. Doesn’t matter if Saints even are in for him in the first place. I believe these kinds of threads happen because of the new tighter info policy surrounding transfers and the tragic and chronic desire to be ITK (we announce them when they are a done deal). For proof, see the recent transfer of Jack Cork, where in a rare move, Adkins announced our approach for him to cool our rabid fan base. But instead, it quickly descends into "IF TRUE, he obviously wants to go to West Ham and can fark off". All of which was forgotten after some good play by the man himself. But the first time he or Jemal (IF it's TRUE we are even in for him) have a bad game, there will be some who point to threads like these and the week gap for Cork for proof and say "You can tell he's not committed, obviously regretting not getting the move to X/Y/Z". And if you can't see the truth of that through recent examples, it's not ironic, it's just sad.
del boy Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 K said: ifhe daant bleed red n woite e can faak orff Maybe that's why he's considering Stoke as well as Saints
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 (edited) Ivan Katalinic said: Doesn't immediately scream out that he's got the commitment we're looking for' date=' if true...[/quote'] Dibden Purlieu Saint said: I find this kind of attitude strange. I would always wait to hear all offers, especially if 1 was from a newly promoted Champ team, and the other an established Prem team. benjii said: Exactly. I knew the half-witted, "ifhe daant bleed red n woite e can faak off" attitude would rear its head. beatlesaint said: Apart from one post in this thread where the guy states, quite righty, that it doesnt scream out commitment - which is what NA often talks about - where is the evidence of this then ? Nobody has stated anything of the sort. So before labelling people as half witted get your facts right please ! Opened a bit of a can of worms here haven't I?! The point I was trying to make was that, if true (I believe I wrote that) my first impression would be to ask does he really want to come to Southampton. He doesn't have to bleed red & white but he does need to want to be here enough to want to put in a decent shift for the cause. Look at Van Damme, for instance. Didn't really want to be here & it showed & affected others. If he does join & does well - brilliant, if he chooses to go to Stoke - fine, no hard feelings but if he comes here just for a pay day & with a heavy heart then it's not likely to go well for all concerned. Oh & half wit? I think not. Edited 24 July, 2011 by Ivan Katalinic's 'tache
capitalsaint Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 (edited) Guan 2.0 said: Actually, 3 people have said it, if you want to be pedant who misses the point (which you obviously are trying to be). One after dropping info that puts a sour note on the potential transfer. But it's ok, because just like saying 'allegedly' after announcing someone kicks rabbits to death as part of their daily recreation, by saying 'if true' you get to be an ITK superfan and pass off any old 'rumour' their personal prejudices have allowed for, and then either enhance or redact that opinion at a later date. Oh, and really, by your standard, shouldn’t they say if true twice? Once for the transfer itself, and once for the offer from Stoke Here's an example "If Jemal kicks rabbits to death as part of his daily recreation (which I’ve heard from Santa Claus he allegedly does), then I don't want this sick twisted bordering on early-signs-of-serial killer to turn out for the saints. IF TRUE". If he signs and has a bad game, I can claim ITK and use it to launch into him after a bad game. If he doesn’t, then I can lead the “I’m glad that Saints didn’t sign that Leporidae murderer, Stoke are welcome to him” type comments. Doesn’t matter if Saints even are in for him in the first place. I believe these kinds of threads happen because of the new tighter info policy surrounding transfers and the tragic and chronic desire to be ITK (we announce them when they are a done deal). For proof, see the recent transfer of Jack Cork, where in a rare move, Adkins announced our approach for him to cool our rabid fan base. But instead, it quickly descends into "IF TRUE, he obviously wants to go to West Ham and can fark off". All of which was forgotten after some good play by the man himself. But the first time he or Jemal (IF it's TRUE we are even in for him) have a bad game, there will be some who point to threads like these and the week gap for Cork for proof and say "You can tell he's not committed, obviously regretting not getting the move to X/Y/Z". And if you can't see the truth of that through recent examples, it's not ironic, it's just sad. Have I touched a nerve? You seem to be getting a little irate about fans using this thread as evidence to criticise a player. Is not your real gripe with fans getting on our players' backs, rather than commenting on how good or bad a scenario is that has been put forward by another poster? Not sure about you're final ironic/sad point, care to explain it? I doubt it's your writing, probably because I'm missing the point yet again. I'll quote the two posters I was referring to as your point about repeating 'if true' also doesn't seem very clear. Again, it's probably my failings rather than your argument technique that is at fault here... Ivan Katalinic said: Doesn't immediately scream out that he's got the commitment we're looking for' date=' if true...[/quote'] beatlesaint said: Well if its true I would be surprised if NC and NA dont pull the plug and look elsewhere for a centre back. Edited 24 July, 2011 by capitalsaint
capitalsaint Posted 24 July, 2011 Posted 24 July, 2011 Additionally, it's ok to mention a player being money-seeking provided they don't sign for us? Re: CMS Guan 2.0 said: Judging by Allardyce's comments, and those of the Peterborough owner, he only went to the brighton for the money. Given that, I'm very happy we 'missed out' on him. We want players who want to play, piggybankers need not apply....
stevy777_x Posted 25 July, 2011 Posted 25 July, 2011 He hasn't posted about his situation on FB in days. Think he has been told to keep his mouth shut until his transfer has been completed. (not necessarily to Saints of course)
yorkie Posted 25 July, 2011 Posted 25 July, 2011 Apparently Stoke have dropped their interest in him - so our offer the only one on the table...I wonder if there will be news from SMS today now?
PokingFun Posted 25 July, 2011 Posted 25 July, 2011 Have we actually made an offer then? I've not seen it reported anywhere that we have unless I've completely missed it.
Saint Charlie Posted 25 July, 2011 Posted 25 July, 2011 yorkie said: Apparently Stoke have dropped their interest in him - so our offer the only one on the table...I wonder if there will be news from SMS today now? Source? It seemed he had a medical on Friday if the reports on here were true. Adkins hinted that another signing is very close when talking on Saints Player about De Ridder. From what Ive read about this guy he looks good.
SaintRichmond Posted 25 July, 2011 Posted 25 July, 2011 Saint Charlie said: Source? It seemed he had a medical on Friday if the reports on here were true. Adkins hinted that another signing is very close when talking on Saints Player about De Ridder. From what Ive read about this guy he looks good. More or less what I had heard I think he was hanging out for a "better" offer from the Prem I don't blame him for sourcing the best option What's Tunisian for "Saints are your best option" ??? I hope he joins us soon
revolution saint Posted 25 July, 2011 Posted 25 July, 2011 Saint Charlie said: Source? It seemed he had a medical on Friday if the reports on here were true. Adkins hinted that another signing is very close when talking on Saints Player about De Ridder. From what Ive read about this guy he looks good. It's on football rumours so don't hold your breath on it's accuracy......might be true though.
Saint Mikey Posted 25 July, 2011 Posted 25 July, 2011 SaintRichmond said: More or less what I had heard I think he was hanging out for a "better" offer from the Prem I don't blame him for sourcing the best option What's Tunisian for "Saints are your best option" ??? I hope he joins us soon Lolz. Do you mean Arabic?
Stattmeister Posted 25 July, 2011 Posted 25 July, 2011 http://www.goal.com/en/news/89/africa/2011/03/02/2376782/zenit-saint-petersburg-interested-in-tunisias-ammar-jemal Good pedigree if these types are interested... and was their penalty taker?! Love it.
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