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Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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I meant in the stands, can't have been too hard to spot considering the crowd.

 

If he was there, he'd have been in the Itchen stand. The public were in the Northam and mainly the Kingsland.

CWD

CWD

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I meant in the stands, can't have been too hard to spot considering the crowd.

 

Sorry, thought you were talking about De Ridder!

 

A rumour around the ground today was that Leroy Lita signed this morning. Heard a few different groups talking about it.

shirleysfc

shirleysfc

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Sorry, thought you were talking about De Ridder!

 

A rumour around the ground today was that Leroy Lita signed this morning. Heard a few different groups talking about it.

 

He played for boro today so I'd suggest that's unlikely.

Lambert7

Lambert7

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Passed medical

 

Signing delayed because player cannot make up his mind .... (Translation) Waiting for Stoke to revise their offer

 

How do you know this?

Dibden Purlieu Saint

Dibden Purlieu Saint

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Doesn't immediately scream out that he's got the commitment we're looking for' date=' if true...[/quote']

 

I find this kind of attitude strange. I would always wait to hear all offers, especially if 1 was from a newly promoted Champ team, and the other an established Prem team.

beatlesaint

beatlesaint

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Friend of a friend

 

( I believe the scenario has substance )

 

Well if its true I would be surprised if NC and NA dont pull the plug and look elsewhere for a centre back.

SaintRichmond

SaintRichmond

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Well if its true I would be surprised if NC and NA dont pull the plug and look elsewhere for a centre back.

 

I agree

 

What makes me think that the scenario is correct, is the very fact that NA was quite positive that there would be TWO signings prior to the Leibherr Tribute Day

 

Only one of those transpired

 

Whilst I can see that the Prem would have more "pull", I still think that the "attitude " by Jemal, IF true, is not the sort that would blend in well with what appears to be a "settled"squad

Saint Charlie

Saint Charlie

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NA was very positive about someone else signing very very soon if you listen to his Saints Player article on De Ridder. Smiled and said would be announced once its all signed and completed.

 

Jemal has every right to consider what he wants to do, its a big move for him but he sounds exactly what we need so lets hope it gets completed!

pap

pap

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Some tweetage from @upthesaints indicating that a move for Matt Kilgallon might be on the cards. If true, NA clearly not putting all eggs in one basket.

Saint Charlie

Saint Charlie

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Some tweetage from @upthesaints indicating that a move for Matt Kilgallon might be on the cards. If true, NA clearly not putting all eggs in one basket.

 

That account always tweets stuff like that. Likely no substance to it!

saint lard

saint lard

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That account always tweets stuff like that. Likely no substance to it!

 

 

 

Um novo sócio para Jose Fonte. Southampton alcança um £ acordo 2m com Sunderland para defensor Matt Kilgallon

 

 

 

 

Southampton reach a £2m deal with Sunderland for defender Matt Kilgallon is being reported, in Portugal.

david in sweden

david in sweden

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Has it been confirmed then? Can't see it anywhere..

 

Of course it's better PR to spread out the news of signings rather than coming up with 2 or 3 at a time ...isn't it?

....and of course tactically good not to sign someone on the eve of a game .

CB Fry

CB Fry

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Of course it's better PR to spread out the news of signings rather than coming up with 2 or 3 at a time ...isn't it?

....and of course tactically good not to sign someone on the eve of a game .

 

Eve of what game? A couple of 45 minute kickabouts. Give me strength.

benjii

benjii

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I find this kind of attitude strange. I would always wait to hear all offers, especially if 1 was from a newly promoted Champ team, and the other an established Prem team.

 

Exactly. I knew the half-witted, "ifhe daant bleed red n woite e can faak off" attitude would rear its head.

beatlesaint

beatlesaint

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Exactly. I knew the half-witted, "ifhe daant bleed red n woite e can faak off" attitude would rear its head.

 

Apart from one post in this thread where the guy states, quite righty, that it doesnt scream out commitment - which is what NA often talks about - where is the evidence of this then ?

 

Nobody has stated anything of the sort. So before labelling people as half witted get your facts right please !

pap

pap

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If his choices are between Southampton and Stoke, I suggest he visit both places before coming to a decision.

Guan 2.0

Guan 2.0

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Lol@ some people on this thread questioning a particular player's commitment/desire to come to us, when there is no actual proof we have bid for him in the first place, and the even more dubious 'evidence' of his fickle nature in delaying signing for us comes from some alledged third hand personal interpretation of events from "a friend of a friend" of a known malcontent poster.

 

But yeah, we should make judgements on wanting players to sign on this sort of basis.

capitalsaint

capitalsaint

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Lol@ some people on this thread questioning a particular player's commitment/desire to come to us, when there is no actual proof we have bid for him in the first place, and the even more dubious 'evidence' of his fickle nature in delaying signing for us comes from some alledged third hand personal interpretation of events from "a friend of a friend" of a known malcontent poster.

 

But yeah, we should make judgements on wanting players to sign on this sort of basis.

 

Even though the two posts that contain the sort of thing you're on about actually both say 'if true', and so are accepting that the info might not be true, in which case they accept the points would not be valid.

 

Think you were a bit too keen to make a point there, let the facts get in the way, which is ironic.

Guan 2.0

Guan 2.0

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Even though the two posts that contain the sort of thing you're on about actually both say 'if true', and so are accepting that the info might not be true, in which case they accept the points would not be valid.

 

Think you were a bit too keen to make a point there, let the facts get in the way, which is ironic.

 

Actually, 3 people have said it, if you want to be pedant who misses the point (which you obviously are trying to be). One after dropping info that puts a sour note on the potential transfer. But it's ok, because just like saying 'allegedly' after announcing someone kicks rabbits to death as part of their daily recreation, by saying 'if true' you get to be an ITK superfan and pass off any old 'rumour' their personal prejudices have allowed for, and then either enhance or redact that opinion at a later date. Oh, and really, by your standard, shouldn’t they say if true twice? Once for the transfer itself, and once for the offer from Stoke

 

Here's an example "If Jemal kicks rabbits to death as part of his daily recreation (which I’ve heard from Santa Claus he allegedly does), then I don't want this sick twisted bordering on early-signs-of-serial killer to turn out for the saints. IF TRUE".

If he signs and has a bad game, I can claim ITK and use it to launch into him after a bad game. If he doesn’t, then I can lead the “I’m glad that Saints didn’t sign that Leporidae murderer, Stoke are welcome to him” type comments. Doesn’t matter if Saints even are in for him in the first place.

 

 

I believe these kinds of threads happen because of the new tighter info policy surrounding transfers and the tragic and chronic desire to be ITK (we announce them when they are a done deal). For proof, see the recent transfer of Jack Cork, where in a rare move, Adkins announced our approach for him to cool our rabid fan base. But instead, it quickly descends into "IF TRUE, he obviously wants to go to West Ham and can fark off". All of which was forgotten after some good play by the man himself.

 

But the first time he or Jemal (IF it's TRUE we are even in for him) have a bad game, there will be some who point to threads like these and the week gap for Cork for proof and say "You can tell he's not committed, obviously regretting not getting the move to X/Y/Z".

 

And if you can't see the truth of that through recent examples, it's not ironic, it's just sad.

Ivan Katalinic's 'tache

Ivan Katalinic's 'tache

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Doesn't immediately scream out that he's got the commitment we're looking for' date=' if true...[/quote']

 

I find this kind of attitude strange. I would always wait to hear all offers, especially if 1 was from a newly promoted Champ team, and the other an established Prem team.

 

Exactly. I knew the half-witted, "ifhe daant bleed red n woite e can faak off" attitude would rear its head.

 

Apart from one post in this thread where the guy states, quite righty, that it doesnt scream out commitment - which is what NA often talks about - where is the evidence of this then ?

 

Nobody has stated anything of the sort. So before labelling people as half witted get your facts right please !

 

Opened a bit of a can of worms here haven't I?! The point I was trying to make was that, if true (I believe I wrote that) my first impression would be to ask does he really want to come to Southampton. He doesn't have to bleed red & white but he does need to want to be here enough to want to put in a decent shift for the cause. Look at Van Damme, for instance. Didn't really want to be here & it showed & affected others. If he does join & does well - brilliant, if he chooses to go to Stoke - fine, no hard feelings but if he comes here just for a pay day & with a heavy heart then it's not likely to go well for all concerned.

 

Oh & half wit? I think not.

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capitalsaint

capitalsaint

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Actually, 3 people have said it, if you want to be pedant who misses the point (which you obviously are trying to be). One after dropping info that puts a sour note on the potential transfer. But it's ok, because just like saying 'allegedly' after announcing someone kicks rabbits to death as part of their daily recreation, by saying 'if true' you get to be an ITK superfan and pass off any old 'rumour' their personal prejudices have allowed for, and then either enhance or redact that opinion at a later date. Oh, and really, by your standard, shouldn’t they say if true twice? Once for the transfer itself, and once for the offer from Stoke

 

Here's an example "If Jemal kicks rabbits to death as part of his daily recreation (which I’ve heard from Santa Claus he allegedly does), then I don't want this sick twisted bordering on early-signs-of-serial killer to turn out for the saints. IF TRUE".

If he signs and has a bad game, I can claim ITK and use it to launch into him after a bad game. If he doesn’t, then I can lead the “I’m glad that Saints didn’t sign that Leporidae murderer, Stoke are welcome to him” type comments. Doesn’t matter if Saints even are in for him in the first place.

 

 

I believe these kinds of threads happen because of the new tighter info policy surrounding transfers and the tragic and chronic desire to be ITK (we announce them when they are a done deal). For proof, see the recent transfer of Jack Cork, where in a rare move, Adkins announced our approach for him to cool our rabid fan base. But instead, it quickly descends into "IF TRUE, he obviously wants to go to West Ham and can fark off". All of which was forgotten after some good play by the man himself.

 

But the first time he or Jemal (IF it's TRUE we are even in for him) have a bad game, there will be some who point to threads like these and the week gap for Cork for proof and say "You can tell he's not committed, obviously regretting not getting the move to X/Y/Z".

 

And if you can't see the truth of that through recent examples, it's not ironic, it's just sad.

 

Have I touched a nerve? You seem to be getting a little irate about fans using this thread as evidence to criticise a player. Is not your real gripe with fans getting on our players' backs, rather than commenting on how good or bad a scenario is that has been put forward by another poster?

 

Not sure about you're final ironic/sad point, care to explain it? I doubt it's your writing, probably because I'm missing the point yet again. I'll quote the two posters I was referring to as your point about repeating 'if true' also doesn't seem very clear. Again, it's probably my failings rather than your argument technique that is at fault here...

 

Doesn't immediately scream out that he's got the commitment we're looking for' date=' if true...[/quote']

 

Well if its true I would be surprised if NC and NA dont pull the plug and look elsewhere for a centre back.
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capitalsaint

capitalsaint

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Additionally, it's ok to mention a player being money-seeking provided they don't sign for us?

 

Re: CMS

 

Judging by Allardyce's comments, and those of the Peterborough owner, he only went to the brighton for the money. Given that, I'm very happy we 'missed out' on him. We want players who want to play, piggybankers need not apply....
stevy777_x

stevy777_x

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He hasn't posted about his situation on FB in days. Think he has been told to keep his mouth shut until his transfer has been completed. (not necessarily to Saints of course)

yorkie

yorkie

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Apparently Stoke have dropped their interest in him - so our offer the only one on the table...I wonder if there will be news from SMS today now?

Saint Charlie

Saint Charlie

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Apparently Stoke have dropped their interest in him - so our offer the only one on the table...I wonder if there will be news from SMS today now?

 

Source?

 

It seemed he had a medical on Friday if the reports on here were true. Adkins hinted that another signing is very close when talking on Saints Player about De Ridder. From what Ive read about this guy he looks good.

SaintRichmond

SaintRichmond

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Source?

 

It seemed he had a medical on Friday if the reports on here were true. Adkins hinted that another signing is very close when talking on Saints Player about De Ridder. From what Ive read about this guy he looks good.

 

More or less what I had heard

 

I think he was hanging out for a "better" offer from the Prem

 

I don't blame him for sourcing the best option

 

What's Tunisian for "Saints are your best option" ???

 

I hope he joins us soon

revolution saint

revolution saint

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Source?

It seemed he had a medical on Friday if the reports on here were true. Adkins hinted that another signing is very close when talking on Saints Player about De Ridder. From what Ive read about this guy he looks good.

 

It's on football rumours so don't hold your breath on it's accuracy......might be true though.

Saint Mikey

Saint Mikey

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More or less what I had heard

 

I think he was hanging out for a "better" offer from the Prem

 

I don't blame him for sourcing the best option

 

What's Tunisian for "Saints are your best option" ???

 

I hope he joins us soon

 

Lolz. Do you mean Arabic?

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