doddisalegend Posted 21 July, 2011 Share Posted 21 July, 2011 Your theory?? It's been said all along that we are only likely to bring in about 3 new players. Sorry if I don't keep up with every thread and post on here who said we were bringing 3 players?. I haven't expected to see any new signings this summer I wouldn't be surprised if Cork was the only one myself. We seem far more intent on keeping what we've got (which is no bad thing as far as I'm concerened) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 21 July, 2011 Share Posted 21 July, 2011 I am one of the few who think he is not good enough. I dearly hope to be proved wrong. he was hardly prolific in L1 how he'll cope due to his lack of space in the Championship will be interesting Quite agree for me he's our weak link. I still hope the club will bring in a new striker as a first choice partner for Lambert. If they do we'll have too many forwards. I was rather hoping Barnard was going to be the one to make way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 21 July, 2011 Share Posted 21 July, 2011 As long as he's fit, I think Barney will do OK in the Championship. He has a goalscorer's nous, he knows where to put himself in front of goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 21 July, 2011 Share Posted 21 July, 2011 I think Barnard will do well in the Championship. If someone like Ormerod can cut it at Prem and Championship level then so can LB. Maybe not as quick as Brett O. but at least matches him in other parts of their games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 21 July, 2011 Share Posted 21 July, 2011 Good News, well done Barney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 Sorry if I don't keep up with every thread and post on here who said we were bringing 3 players?. I haven't expected to see any new signings this summer I wouldn't be surprised if Cork was the only one myself. We seem far more intent on keeping what we've got (which is no bad thing as far as I'm concerened) Adkins stated at the end of last season that he would only be looking to bring in 2 or 3 new players, something he reiterated after we signed Jack Cork. We have alreadt signed one (Cork); we know there has been a bid made for at least one forward (Sharp) and speculation of another (Maynard); leaving the number 5 shirt unalocated is a very good indication that we will be bringing in a new CB = 3 players. Adkins also stated that he only wants to bring in players who will improve the team, NOT the squad. Personally I think this is the right thing to do. I think our squad is pretty good, but does need (a few) additions to it to be able to compete well in the Championship. I am happy with our goalkeepers and full backs; slighlty concerned about CB, and feel we need a new one; happy with central midfield (now Cork has signed); happy with our wide players, but we would obviously have to find a replacement for AOX IF he leaves; happy that we have kept our best forwards, but feel we should one more - proven at this level - striker for extra options/competition for places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 Aaaah why is it always pace?! Sorry but all I see now to explain the limitations of every player is damn pace. The obsession is making football decline, ironically rapidly. Many many players do well without pace and many more will in the future. AL does not have pace but his footwork and skill do help overcome that liability. LB does not have either and time and again last season the defences could push up and squeeze us as, as they knew he wouldnt out run them. We are stepping up a level and the defenders are a tad quicker and more accomplished. IMO I see us lacking the goals to make real progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 I think Barnard will do well in the Championship. If someone like Ormerod can cut it at Prem and Championship level then so can LB. Maybe not as quick as Brett O. but at least matches him in other parts of their games. Certainly, comparing them both in the cup game last january there was only one winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 22 July, 2011 Share Posted 22 July, 2011 Thing with Barnard is that just his work rate is worth a few goals in the season, he presses defenders into making mistakes, and also he pulls defenders out of position with his movement. I really like Barnard and its good to have someone that works so hard for the team. Especially after watching people like Fuller, John, Rasiak who just wander about disinterested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 24 July, 2011 Share Posted 24 July, 2011 well those stats look good, a goal every other appearance for us. Nothing like massaging the figures to make the stats look good. You should be a politician but not a mathematician. 58 goals in 93 starts ..even allowing for shorter sub. apps. is good. in fact... anything near 0.5 goals / game is VG. Look at older stats. even the big scorers rarely do better than 0.33 per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 July, 2011 Share Posted 24 July, 2011 58 goals in 93 starts ..even allowing for shorter sub. apps. is good. in fact... anything near 0.5 goals / game is VG. Look at older stats. even the big scorers rarely do better than 0.33 per game. yep, the stats do look good, time will tell whether he is up to the higher league. I truly hope he is but I have major doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 (edited) yep, the stats do look good, time will tell whether he is up to the higher league. I truly hope he is but I have major doubts. I have to admit that I have a small question mark on that issue, too. Now we are talking about "serious" football. Coming up against clubs who have been in the Premiership for a few seasons. Of course, players come and go but getting goals v. Barnsley or C. Palace... isn't the same as scoring at Birmingham or West Ham. I know that Barnard looked good scoring last season, but (as for some other players) THIS season may be the turning point in their careers.. Are they potential Premiership class...or did they find their true level LAST SEASON? I'm pleased for Barnards sake that he has got the security of a 3 year contract extension, but only time will tell if it is a good investment in club terms. Edited 26 July, 2011 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 Thing with Barnard is that just his work rate is worth a few goals in the season, he presses defenders into making mistakes, and also he pulls defenders out of position with his movement. I really like Barnard and its good to have someone that works so hard for the team. Especially after watching people like Fuller, John, Rasiak who just wander about disinterested. He may well press League 1 defenders into mistakes but whether he'll get the same result from far better players who earn 5 or 6 times as much supposedly because of their greater ability we shall have to wait and see. I think many fans are in for a rude shock about many of their "best players" when we come up against sides like Leeds,Leicester,West Ham etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 He may well press League 1 defenders into mistakes but whether he'll get the same result from far better players who earn 5 or 6 times as much supposedly because of their greater ability we shall have to wait and see. I think many fans are in for a rude shock about many of their "best players" when we come up against sides like Leeds,Leicester,West Ham etc. On the other hand you look at people like Grant Holt, Becchio, Simeon Jackson and Beckford none of which looked that great in league one IMO and three of them will be playing in the PL next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 On the other hand you look at people like Grant Holt, Becchio, Simeon Jackson and Beckford none of which looked that great in league one IMO and three of them will be playing in the PL next season. Beckford and Holt were great in league 1, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 I am pleased for LB that he has got a new contract and I'm sure that he will contribute for us again this year. My main concern about him, and the thing that I think will let him down more this season, is his first touch. Too often he lets the ball get away from him with a poor first touch and as a result we have to immediately start to chase the ball again. Compare this to most of the other attacking players in the team - RL, AL, AOC, GdP, who all have an excellent first touch and allow us to move the ball quickly and play a neat short passing game. I realise that there is a place for different sorts of players and LB definitely contributes with his goals, but I fear that he will get found out a bit in this league because of his first touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 Beckford and Holt were great in league 1, So were Barney and Lambert... that's kind of the point. Why will our strikers who were very good in League 1 not be good enough? when the players I mentioned above were no better than our strikers yet have performed well enough at champ level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthlondonSaint Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 Barny will rip the CCC apart. Delighted with this news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locksheathsaint101 Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 Barny will rip the CCC apart. Delighted with this news. Barney will smash the NPC in its stupid face with a glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 July, 2011 Share Posted 26 July, 2011 So were Barney and Lambert... that's kind of the point. Why will our strikers who were very good in League 1 not be good enough? when the players I mentioned above were no better than our strikers yet have performed well enough at champ level. I would swap LB for the others , not sure I would RL though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now