1976_Child Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 I can't understand why I am getting fatter. I used to be as thin as my whippets. Someone suggested it could be because I usually (4 times a week) have a big plate of pasta for lunch. I only ever have a few dollops of pesto to give it flavour, so none of those fatty sauces like carbonara. Apart from that I eat healthily. Although I do have about 20 pints a week and with out fail have two bags of crisps in the evening. Is it the pasta that is making me wander around with the top button of my jeans undone? If I don't get to the bottom of this soon then seeing my willy in the shower will be a thing of the past.
Liquidshokk Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 Apparently pasta only makes up a very small part of a meal in italy as it's so fattening. The rest is salad. Us Brits fill the plate with pasta.. 20 pints a week and crisps are probably equally guilty too.
Deano6 Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 True carbonara doesn't have any of the cream added, it's just a couple of eggs.
Smirking_Saint Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 Pasta is not that fattening really, it has a lot of carbs, but it is less fattening in reallity to most of the sh*te that many cram down their holes on a nightly basis infront of the tele. You could change white pasta to wholemeal, or just not eat as much. I suspect the pints and crisps are the main culprits. When I tried a month off the booze (only lasted just under 3 weeks) I lost a lot.
pap Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 It's all in the carbs. Any carbs that aren't burnt off get turned into glycogen. Glycogen eventually becomes fat. All this from GCSE science, which happened around 20 years ago.
Smirking_Saint Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 It's all in the carbs. Any carbs that aren't burnt off get turned into glycogen. Glycogen eventually becomes fat. All this from GCSE science, which happened around 20 years ago. well...........ish Any calories that are not burnt will eventually be turned into fat, be that calories from meat, veg, carbs or fats. Which is basically that for every 1000 calorie deficit (per week) you lose a pound and obviously eat 1000 calories over and you gain 1.
1976_Child Posted 20 July, 2011 Author Posted 20 July, 2011 It's all in the carbs. Any carbs that aren't burnt off get turned into glycogen. Glycogen eventually becomes fat. All this from GCSE science, which happened around 20 years ago. thanks, so how much movement (running or walking) must I do per day to burn off a plate of pasta? There must be some rule of thumb like x many miles brisk walk to burn of y number of pasta shells....
latter day saint Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 my gf is doing Slimming World & she eats loads of pasta and has managed to shift some weight. she is allowed as much dried pasta as she wants but not the nice fresh pasta. which is it you pig out on ?
sambosa75 Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 If you eat pasta for lunch you should be fine. I'd be more concerned about the 20 pints and 14 packets of crisps a week to be honest.
1976_Child Posted 20 July, 2011 Author Posted 20 July, 2011 my gf is doing Slimming World & she eats loads of pasta and has managed to shift some weight. she is allowed as much dried pasta as she wants but not the nice fresh pasta. which is it you pig out on ? the dried stuff.
1976_Child Posted 20 July, 2011 Author Posted 20 July, 2011 If you eat pasta for lunch you should be fine. I'd be more concerned about the 20 pints and 14 packets of crisps a week to be honest. its the walkers ready salted. They say they now only use sunflower oil to cook them, shouldn't mean they are low fat?
pap Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 thanks, so how much movement (running or walking) must I do per day to burn off a plate of pasta? There must be some rule of thumb like x many miles brisk walk to burn of y number of pasta shells.... No idea, sorry. I have a simple rule. If I can't see the wanger without the aid of a mirror, it's time to stop eating crap. Mind you, I'm a filthy smoker too, so don't generally have much of an appetite.
Turkish Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 You need to increase your beer intake mate. If you up this so you drink so much you puke all the next morning then you'll be able to eat and drink what you want within reason.
Punk Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 I am a personal trainer and I can tell you DO NOT go anywhere near the stuff.
1976_Child Posted 20 July, 2011 Author Posted 20 July, 2011 I am a personal trainer and I can tell you DO NOT go anywhere near the stuff. what, don't eat pasta? how come?
pap Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 You need to increase your beer intake mate. If you up this so you drink so much you puke all the next morning then you'll be able to eat and drink what you want within reason. I can see some obvious flaws in this cunning, but effective plan.
Punk Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 The carbs in Pasta are like sugar and will turn to fat just as sugar! Have a good serving of meat and veg you will see the difference.
pap Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 Agree with Punk on the veg there. Extra tip? Get yourself a steamer and steam the stuff you'd normally boil. It's a lot tastier that way and therefore, a lot easier to buy into.
solentstars Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 The carbs in Pasta are like sugar and will turn to fat just as sugar! Have a good serving of meat and veg you will see the difference. but i thought footballers use it for energy
sambosa75 Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 You need to increase your beer intake mate. If you up this so you drink so much you puke all the next morning then you'll be able to eat and drink what you want within reason. And theres me thinking you paint yourself as some massive uber-bloke. Puking after a night on the sauce? Unacceptable.
Andy_Porter Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 what, don't eat pasta? how come? Because it's all empty carbs. Switch the wholemeal pasta if you need to eat pasta.
pap Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 but i thought footballers use it for energy They do. Most of us don't do as much exercise as them, though.
1976_Child Posted 20 July, 2011 Author Posted 20 July, 2011 Because it's all empty carbs. Switch the wholemeal pasta if you need to eat pasta. what's an 'empty' carb?
Punk Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 They do. Most of us don't do as much exercise as them, though. This
Jonnyboy Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 20 pints plus massive late night stews will be doing it...
OttawaSaint Posted 20 July, 2011 Posted 20 July, 2011 If you want to lose weight it's all about calories in vs calories out, regardless of the form that they are imbibed in. Healthier foods will give you more benefits like vitamins and minerals etc, but the bottom line is whatever carbs can't be stored as glycogen will be stored as fat (protein is excreted in urine when it can't be absorbed any more), therefore you have to burn more than you take in. Look for foods that are filling but low in calories.
benjii Posted 21 July, 2011 Posted 21 July, 2011 thanks, so how much movement (running or walking) must I do per day to burn off a plate of pasta? There must be some rule of thumb like x many miles brisk walk to burn of y number of pasta shells.... You'd be much better off doing a 20 minute high-intensity routine involving fast circuits if half a dozen exercises than spending ages pounding the pavements which, frankly, doesn't achieve much.
benjii Posted 21 July, 2011 Posted 21 July, 2011 its the walkers ready salted. They say they now only use sunflower oil to cook them, shouldn't mean they are low fat? Potatoes are bad and crisp are pretty much the worse way of eating them. They cause high blood sugar peaks which will inhibit your ability to lose weight.
Andy_Porter Posted 21 July, 2011 Posted 21 July, 2011 what's an 'empty' carb? No (or very little )nutritional value.
suewhistle Posted 21 July, 2011 Posted 21 July, 2011 (edited) Funnily enough on some of our more distant away games when we stop at the autostrada service stations before the game we are recommended to eat a small dish of pasta (with not too much sauce). I'm also regarded slightly askance as I sometimes have a beer on a team night out. So I reckon it's a combination of 20 pints and old age and not the pasta.;-) Edited 21 July, 2011 by suewhistle vital info
Patrick Bateman Posted 22 July, 2011 Posted 22 July, 2011 If you are fairly sedentary (i.e. sit at a desk all day!), any carb-based foods (pasta, potatoes, bread etc) will just be wasted energy food that turns to fat. Same with too much protein - if you don't burn it off, it just "turns" to fat. A good meal is all about balance, I can't remember the formula exactly but it is about 40% carbs is a good balance for a healthy meal. We do eat too much pasta - go to Italy, you'll see the plate loaded with lush, fresh food with less pasta than we'd have. A lot of people also have toast for breakfast, sandwiches for lunch, then pasta for tea ... no wonder this nation is growing outwards. Porridge for breakfast (slow burning energy), salad with a small amount of chicken for lunch and a decent, balanced evening meal consumed before 8pm ideally. Coupled with some exercise and cutting down on booze, you'll be in shape in no time - it isn't rocket science! (Oh, and no refined foods, pizzas, deep fried freezer crap etc.)
Upwind Posted 22 July, 2011 Posted 22 July, 2011 I'm guessing that if you swapped the pasta for rice and did away with sauces it may help also. I also love my pasta, but I also mix this with rice dishes, salads, fish, chicken and have the occasional blow-out on red meat or a gut busting take-away. I also drink (cider/rum) like a fish - which I know is not good for me. To balance this out though I do go the gym every weekday morning and I play squash/golf every at dinner-times also.
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