bigdavewatson Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Not a wind up, I was catching the 7.05am flight to Amsterdam and he was in front of me in the queue going through to departures. Not saying he is signing and it may be a co-incidence that he is in Southampton (think he still has a house here) when we are looking at signing a new striker??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 This was mentioned in another thread as well. If he wants to be here and can recreate his form when he was at Sheff Utd then welcome him in, only problem is he's on his way down and we're on the way up, plus he is a bit of a 'billy big balls' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 you should have asked him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggs Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 I saw in him in west quay in the food court up lsat week with his wife and child, he is down because is missus is just just about to have another baby and her family are from around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Southampton-Glasgow, Flybe. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steadyeddie Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 No thanks. Dont forget the season we were relegated from the Premiership, he couldnt wait to leave. Not a team player, too disruptive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey-deacons-left-nut Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 s others have said, HIs Mrs is form here and he still has his house opposite the Chilworth Arms.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 He was probably going to Rangers training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggers Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Don't be so bloody stupid he was back for the weekend and was simply going back training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDogMatt Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 I have little doubt he would love to come back but would he be willing to be back up for RL I doubt it He was around all week I am told and was at the training ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Beats loves Southampton and would be a great signing. Anyone who thinks he would be a bad signing because he left us in our relegation season is mental. He has since gone on to play at Championship level and done very well. He would be ideal. A mate of mine bumped in to him in town a few months back and overheard Beattie talking about Saints as "we". Yes he's getting on but he would be a great signing in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Bea 77s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Beats loves Southampton and would be a great signing. Anyone who thinks he would be a bad signing because he left us in our relegation season is mental. He has since gone on to play at Championship level and done very well. He would be ideal. A mate of mine bumped in to him in town a few months back and overheard Beattie talking about Saints as "we". Yes he's getting on but he would be a great signing in my opinion. Can't agree with much of that at all. We need to look forward not back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Beats loves Southampton and would be a great signing. Anyone who thinks he would be a bad signing because he left us in our relegation season is mental. He has since gone on to play at Championship level and done very well. He would be ideal. A mate of mine bumped in to him in town a few months back and overheard Beattie talking about Saints as "we". Yes he's getting on but he would be a great signing in my opinion. Then I'm mental :~( Stupid I know but I would rather build for the future with young players who recognise the strength is in the team not the individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Beatts obviously has a lot of affection for Southampton and the way he celebrates for other teams against Pompey gives him close to legend status alone. Of course he'd be a good signing, because he's a good player, but I'm not quite sure how he'd fit in with a certain Mr Lambert in the team. I'll always have a lot of good things to say about James Beattie, he was class for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntingdon Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 I have no idea if it was just rumours, but BT and Jason Dodd were considered to be the players that got Sturrock the sack. I wouldn't want him back, I have great memories of BT at his best Clearly, he wouldn't re-create those days and how often do players return to clubs and be equally as successful as before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 I saw in him in west quay in the food court up lsat week with his wife and child, he is down because is missus is just just about to have another baby and her family are from around here. This. "Football player in visit to in-laws shock". (Someone has to fill the gap between the 'News of the World' closing and the totally different 'Sun on Sunday' opening) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 This. "Football player in visit to in-laws shock". (Someone has to fill the gap between the 'News of the World' closing and the totally different 'Sun on Sunday' opening) absolute fact that a few weeks ago Beattie was in the Pensioners pub off Bedford place and said if the opportunity was there he would love to return to saints, he also referred to the club as "we" etc and bought my mate a pint after chatting to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 If it was a choice between Beattie or Mellor, i'd take Beats anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 If it was a choice between Beattie or Mellor, i'd take Beats anytime. I'd take Mellor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Saint Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Although I loved when he was here I wouldn't want him here now. Not the sort of player we need. Besides he is 33 and has yet to score a goal in the SPL. I don't watch the SPL so I don't know his situation up there, only going by the stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 My Nephew was also at the Airport this morning and after reading these comments (he was going back to Guernsey) he asked should he have a word with the Le Tiss family just in case Matty is coming back!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Although I loved when he was here I wouldn't want him here now. Not the sort of player we need. Besides he is 33 and has yet to score a goal in the SPL. I don't watch the SPL so I don't know his situation up there, only going by the stats. The fact that Kris Boyd went from top scorer to mediocrity in a Middlesborough shirt, along with Macdonald I wouldn't hold much hope. Besides, his best form came when Omerod did all of his work for him and we played counter attacking football and happened to chuck balls into the box at him. That is why he went and flopped at Everton. He had a great season for us, and I am thankfull for that, but (like the rickie situation) all this hero worship gets in the way of good solid thinking, if a player doesn't perform now, it doesn't matter what they did years ago, they aren't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Not a wind up, I was catching the 7.05am flight to Amsterdam and he was in front of me in the queue going through to departures. Not saying he is signing and it may be a co-incidence that he is in Southampton (think he still has a house here) when we are looking at signing a new striker??? Signing for Eastleigh? like saints legends of yesteryear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 I'd take Beats too. Beats still has a soft spot for us. If he was willing to come as back up to lambert and ultimetly provide further competition then why not? As far as i can remember he was passionate when he played for us. If things were going pearshaped under Sturrock and then saw Wigley being named as manager, he felt Saints were maybe a sinking ship and not up to his ambitions at the time. I don't hold any grudges over him leaving. If he believes in our project, I would therefore welcome him back with open arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Quick career comparison, goals in brackets. Beattie 1995–1998 Blackburn Rovers 4 (0) 1998–2005 Southampton 204 (68.) 1 in 3 2005–2007 Everton 76 (13) 1 in 5.8 2007–2009 Sheffield United 62 (34) 1 in 1.823 2009–2010 Stoke City 38 (9) 1 in 4.2 2010– Rangers 7 (0) 2011 → Blackpool (loan) 9 (0) vs Mellor 2002–2006 Liverpool 22 (6) 1 in 3.6 2003–2004 → West Ham United (loan) 16 (2) 1 in 8 2006 → Wigan Athletic (loan) 3 (1) 1 in 3 2006– Preston North End 113 (30) 1 in 3.7 2010–2011 → Sheffield Wednesday (loan) 33 (13) 1 in 2.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 The fact that Kris Boyd went from top scorer to mediocrity in a Middlesborough shirt, along with Macdonald I wouldn't hold much hope. Besides, his best form came when Omerod did all of his work for him and we played counter attacking football and happened to chuck balls into the box at him. That is why he went and flopped at Everton. He had a great season for us, and I am thankfull for that, but (like the rickie situation) all this hero worship gets in the way of good solid thinking, if a player doesn't perform now, it doesn't matter what they did years ago, they aren't good enough. We could always get Bret back as well........ that would be a forward line to strike fear into the championship...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 The good news is: the plane was going out of Southampton and he was on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Some people have very short memories. He was fantastic for us. That said he might be too similar to Lambert and the missing skill set up front is pace, so I not sure he fits the bill at the moment, but he would grace any championship side for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Was a great player for us but come on now, that was 6 years ago. A lot of water has gone under the bridge since then. He is 33 and will be 34 in feb. He has not scored in over a year. We need to be looking at players who will be apart of the future not those who have not played much and have 1 year left in them. To use a saying from some song "leave the memories alone". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 The good news is: the plane was going out of Southampton and he was on it Maybe he was on his way up to Manchester to pick up Michael Owen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Not a wind up, I was catching the 7.05am flight to Amsterdam and he was in front of me in the queue going through to departures. Not saying he is signing and it may be a co-incidence that he is in Southampton (think he still has a house here) when we are looking at signing a new striker??? hes always down here and he sees wifes family alot plus he visits his good mates down here ,one of the guys he sees i used to work with and they were best of buddies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 I'd welcome Beattie back. I think he could still do it in the Championship and would be the right sort of pressure on our other strikers, especially Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Only if he was made ultra-fit again. I am not so sure we need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Would love to see Beats back in a Saints Shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Not good enough now although, apart from his first touch, he did a very good job for us during his time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 LOL at Saints fans dissing BT. Not good enough now? Delusional. If he was brought in and made match-fit he would be as good as any other LIKELY candidate we might sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whizzpop Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 For Rangers to see something in him last season, and Blackpool. Why couldn't he do a job for two seasons or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 For Rangers to see something in him last season, and Blackpool. Why couldn't he do a job for two seasons or so? I'd agree with this....Blackpool (who were prem last season) thought he could do a job and rangers think he is capable of doing a job in the top league in Scotland yet some on here are dismissing his ability to play for a newly promoted team from L1. I'd love to see him in a saints shirt again,I think it would jump start his confidence which he needs to score goals and it would shift a few season tickets IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 He's too old. How old is he btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 For the first time since he left i wouldn't want him back, however I could see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 I have no idea if it was just rumours, but BT and Jason Dodd were considered to be the players that got Sturrock the sack. I wouldn't want him back, I have great memories of BT at his best Clearly, he wouldn't re-create those days and how often do players return to clubs and be equally as successful as before? Sturrock got the sack because he was ****e ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 just to add my twopence worth, I would love for Beattie to come back, I think it would be a great move for him and a great move for us as I reckon it would really motivate him being back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 LOL at Saints fans dissing BT. Not good enough now? Delusional. If he was brought in and made match-fit he would be as good as any other LIKELY candidate we might sign. Sorry but I struggle to see the sense with this..... It isn't dissing him it is stating the obvious that he is no longer the player he was. He is almost 34 years old. People say he "did a job for Rangers and Blackpool" but how did he do a job for them? He hardly played and didn't score any goals. How did he do a job for Rangers? He joined them in august, played 5 games and was then loaned out to Blackpool in January where he played 9 games. What job would he do here for us? Score goals? He has not scored a goal in over a year for one of the top teams in Scotland and a team that only scored 5 less then Man City in the PL last year, why would he start being prolific for us? Who would he replace? Lambert,Barnard,Guly or Connolly? Add to that he is rumoured to have a really bad attitude in the dressing room (was the reason Stoke got rid of him) how do you think he would be able to handle being potentially the 5th choice striker? Is it worth rocking the happy boat to accommodate him? What would he actually bring to the club that we don't already have? He is not the player he was and to think he is i would say was more delusional. We have the veteran striker already in Connolly who scores more goals and creates more goals too. Rather then bringing in another journeyman looking to pick up his last paycheque how about giving it to one of the youngsters? That benefits the club far more imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Sorry but I struggle to see the sense with this..... It isn't dissing him it is stating the obvious that he is no longer the player he was. He is almost 34 years old. People say he "did a job for Rangers and Blackpool" but how did he do a job for them? He hardly played and didn't score any goals. How did he do a job for Rangers? He joined them in august, played 5 games and was then loaned out to Blackpool in January where he played 9 games. What job would he do here for us? Score goals? He has not scored a goal in over a year for one of the top teams in Scotland and a team that only scored 5 less then Man City in the PL last year, why would he start being prolific for us? Who would he replace? Lambert,Barnard,Guly or Connolly? Add to that he is rumoured to have a really bad attitude in the dressing room (was the reason Stoke got rid of him) how do you think he would be able to handle being potentially the 5th choice striker? Is it worth rocking the happy boat to accommodate him? What would he actually bring to the club that we don't already have? He is not the player he was and to think he is i would say was more delusional. We have the veteran striker already in Connolly who scores more goals and creates more goals too. Rather then bringing in another journeyman looking to pick up his last paycheque how about giving it to one of the youngsters? That benefits the club far more imo. This I find it quite laughable how someone can call people dillusional when posting about the merits of an overweight and overthehill striker who has not scored in 2 seasons and has at best had 2 perhaps 3 seasons of any note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Sorry but I struggle to see the sense with this..... It isn't dissing him it is stating the obvious that he is no longer the player he was. He is almost 34 years old. People say he "did a job for Rangers and Blackpool" but how did he do a job for them? He hardly played and didn't score any goals. How did he do a job for Rangers? He joined them in august, played 5 games and was then loaned out to Blackpool in January where he played 9 games. What job would he do here for us? Score goals? He has not scored a goal in over a year for one of the top teams in Scotland and a team that only scored 5 less then Man City in the PL last year, why would he start being prolific for us? Who would he replace? Lambert,Barnard,Guly or Connolly? Add to that he is rumoured to have a really bad attitude in the dressing room (was the reason Stoke got rid of him) how do you think he would be able to handle being potentially the 5th choice striker? Is it worth rocking the happy boat to accommodate him? What would he actually bring to the club that we don't already have? He is not the player he was and to think he is i would say was more delusional. We have the veteran striker already in Connolly who scores more goals and creates more goals too. Rather then bringing in another journeyman looking to pick up his last paycheque how about giving it to one of the youngsters? That benefits the club far more imo. This ^^^ he was great for us when he was here I was sad to see him go at the time. Saints has moved on and so has BT. Rapidly aging strikers with their best years behind them living on their name aren't the sort of players I want saints signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Sorry but I struggle to see the sense with this..... It isn't dissing him it is stating the obvious that he is no longer the player he was. He is almost 34 years old. People say he "did a job for Rangers and Blackpool" but how did he do a job for them? He hardly played and didn't score any goals. How did he do a job for Rangers? He joined them in august, played 5 games and was then loaned out to Blackpool in January where he played 9 games. What job would he do here for us? Score goals? He has not scored a goal in over a year for one of the top teams in Scotland and a team that only scored 5 less then Man City in the PL last year, why would he start being prolific for us? Who would he replace? Lambert,Barnard,Guly or Connolly? Add to that he is rumoured to have a really bad attitude in the dressing room (was the reason Stoke got rid of him) how do you think he would be able to handle being potentially the 5th choice striker? Is it worth rocking the happy boat to accommodate him? What would he actually bring to the club that we don't already have? He is not the player he was and to think he is i would say was more delusional. We have the veteran striker already in Connolly who scores more goals and creates more goals too. Rather then bringing in another journeyman looking to pick up his last paycheque how about giving it to one of the youngsters? That benefits the club far more imo. Spot on, I saw Beattie play for Rangers in one of the old firm games last season and I have to say it was shocking how poor he was. Now the touch may have gone because he wasn't getting many games but he was a long way from being match fit (and yes I am being kind to him). The worst thing was at times he didn't look interested. Now if he can't get himself up for a game of that magnitude then what hope have we got on a cold November night at Doncaster? Thanks for the memories beatts, but they are best left as memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 OK, let's deal with this line by line... Sorry but I struggle to see the sense with this..... It isn't dissing him it is stating the obvious that he is no longer the player he was. He is almost 34 years old. People say he "did a job for Rangers and Blackpool" but how did he do a job for them? He hardly played and didn't score any goals. How did he do a job for Rangers? He joined them in august, played 5 games and was then loaned out to Blackpool in January where he played 9 games. If that is ALL that's being said, fair enough, but it's not...there are statements about him not being good enough. Of course he's not the player he was. Plenty like him though still doing a reasonably job at 34 and he could, if the Saints medical team could get him match-fit. What job would he do here for us? Score goals? He has not scored a goal in over a year for one of the top teams in Scotland and a team that only scored 5 less then Man City in the PL last year, why would he start being prolific for us? Who would he replace? Lambert,Barnard,Guly or Connolly? Add to that he is rumoured to have a really bad attitude in the dressing room (was the reason Stoke got rid of him) how do you think he would be able to handle being potentially the 5th choice striker? Is it worth rocking the happy boat to accommodate him? So you're willing to dismiss anothers opinion, but it's OK for you to rely on rumour to form your own opinion? Riiiiiight. Yep - I do believe that he would relish the prospect of getting fit again and serving up goals at SMS again. What would he actually bring to the club that we don't already have? Proper Rickie backup. Simple as that. He is not the player he was and to think he is i would say was more delusional. We have the veteran striker already in Connolly who scores more goals and creates more goals too. Rather then bringing in another journeyman looking to pick up his last paycheque how about giving it to one of the youngsters? That benefits the club far more imo. Can't beat experience in the spine of the team. Not only that, but name me a youngster in the senior team right now that can act as lone striker replacing Lambert? And even if we did have someone, let's not forget we tried that before with the Dutch and it delivered what benefits? If you think Connolly is a Rickie replacement then yes, you are delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 OK, let's deal with this line by line... Can't beat experience in the spine of the team. Not only that, but name me a youngster in the senior team right now that can act as lone striker replacing Lambert? And even if we did have someone, let's not forget we tried that before with the Dutch and it delivered what benefits? If you think Connolly is a Rickie replacement then yes, you are delusional. Mate no offence but you obviously have not seen Beattie play for a long long time. These are some comments from the Blackpool forum on Beattie at the end of the season "what happens with flop James Beattie?" "i hope we never sign Beati he has been awful. " "Beattie is awful, looks like he's coming back to us (Gers), don't want him though will have to pay out to get shot of him." "blackpool fans wanted Beattie out of the club months ago . Beattie was there highest paid player yet refussed to train , he caused chaos in the training camp even to the point of refussing to warm up before coming on as a sub. Beattie had no respect for the club or its fans and from what the bloke has told me he had absolutely no respect among the players" - That is from a poster with connections to the club "Turning point of the season i feel was letting Marlon Harewood go out on loan and getting him in" "dont tell me Beattie is coming back to Ibrox ive seen milk turn quicker!" "his record 18 months without a goal? Just the sort of player we needed for a relegation scrap....." Some other fans comments "Beattie's now 33, doesn't have long left in the game. Will hopefully be released in the summer . Another horrific signing." "he will be released and probably retire!" "I knew at the time he would be crap, but admit getting a little carried away in the excitement of us signing our first player for two years. Should always follow your gut instinct, he has been totally mince!! " "Shocking player At least he won't trigger the clause in his contract that means he gets another year." "The kind of signing that has helped land us in the financial ****ter. A guy approaching retirement, hadn't kicked his arse in a couple of years, and us mugs rock up with a cheque for 1.5 mill and good wages....incredible" "Fat Beattie, a sheer waste of money. No wonder we're in debt" "bad, bad signing " "He's a bit of a shoe-in for all those " Name your worst Rangers X1" threads." "He looked like he was picked out of a pub 5 mins before kick off. I knew from then that he was going to be mince." "I must admit, i thought he would score goals up here but after seeing him in the flesh i realised he was way past it" etc etc. seriously there are hundreds of bad messages. I don't think i saw a single poster on Rangers,Blackpool forum say a nice thing about his ability. And that is what it is about, his ability. If you think he still has it Saint Fan Cam then it is you who is deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 sort of player we should be signing from the sounds of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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