Giordano Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 paraphrased..."we're facing two teams on saturday who, unlike the teams in the Championship, will be comfortable in possession of the ball". Hmmm...a massive dissing of the technical abilities of our future opponents this season. Its possibly one of those "Brighton" comments that might be recirculated a few times....unless i have misheard him and he meant to say "like" rather than "unlike". Have i heard him correctly? If so its a revealing comment as it shows what type of approach he thinks most teams will use against us this year..ie pretty much like last year in the main....when i thought we might get a few more teams opening up against us...interesting.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 This is one of the reasons why I do love our manager, every now and then his media facade slips and he comes out with something quite revealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 paraphrased..."we're facing two teams on saturday who, unlike the teams in the Championship, will be comfortable in possession of the ball". Hmmm...a massive dissing of the technical abilities of our future opponents this season. Its possibly one of those "Brighton" comments that might be recirculated a few times....unless i have misheard him and he meant to say "like" rather than "unlike". Have i heard him correctly? If so its a revealing comment as it shows what type of approach he thinks most teams will use against us this year..ie pretty much like last year in the main....when i thought we might get a few more teams opening up against us...interesting.. Comfortable on the ball and opening up are not the same things. Comfrotable on the ball, passing the ball around with good control, not being panicked into a long ball or an attack, having the patience and confidence to knock it around until an opening occurs. Championship, fast pace, direct play, speculative balls, losing possession cheaply, the normal English style. There will be some exceptions, I suspect Sven will instill this way of playing with Leicester before he gets fed up and moves on half way through the season, Brighton too are known to play this way. But the style of play Bremen and Bilbao will adopt is much more akin to what Adkins is trying to do with us, and will be somewhat different to the majority of Championship teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 paraphrased..."we're facing two teams on saturday who, unlike the teams in the Championship, will be comfortable in possession of the ball". Hmmm...a massive dissing of the technical abilities of our future opponents this season. Its possibly one of those "Brighton" comments that might be recirculated a few times....unless i have misheard him and he meant to say "like" rather than "unlike". Have i heard him correctly? If so its a revealing comment as it shows what type of approach he thinks most teams will use against us this year..ie pretty much like last year in the main....when i thought we might get a few more teams opening up against us...interesting.. Have you watched England and the under21s recently? His comments are spot on. Its time we realise that our football is abysmal and technically light years away from Spain, Portugal, Italy, France Adkins in this case is correct and that includes teams in the Championship and Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 This is one of the reasons why I do love our manager, every now and then his media facade slips and he comes out with something quite revealing. That is one way of looking at it i suppose. Putting a positive spin on everything certainly helps, for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 you dont really like adkins at all do you..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 (edited) you dont really like adkins at all do you..? The fawning over the bloke makes me want to vomit. Sorry, but it amazes me. Untested at a decent level,yet people cream themselves over every move and comment he does/makes. He speaks in riddles and still needs to prove himself worthy of all the praise,he has done nothing revolutionary at saints thus far..imo. A little bit of balance would not go amiss. Unfortunately because i seem to go against the grain,reference my lapping up everything he does/says,i am castigated.The views on here are often so black and white,you either love him or hate him,for me it's neither,i remain undecided,but pleasantly comfortable that he is at the helm,but he needs to be put under pressure to show his true worth...which will happen this coming season. At this moment i think he has done ok,i sincerely hope he becomes a great,but as of now it is way too early to plant myself in the 'Adkins is a beyond reproach' camp. Nothing vindictive,just keeping my feet on the ground. Edited 17 July, 2011 by saint lard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 The fawning over the bloke makes me want to vomit. Sorry, but it amazes me. Untested at a decent level,yet people cream themselves over every move and comment he does/makes. He speaks in riddles and still needs to prove himself worthy of all the praise,he has done nothing revolutionary at saints thus far..imo. A little bit of balance would not go amiss. is that a yes or a no.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 think its a no but grudgingly sees that he is doing well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 Weder Bremen and Athletico Bilbao are'nt Championship standard sides the Spanish and German equivilents of Villas/Spurs/Everton. So if anyone in the Championship is ****ed off at those comments, they really shouldnt be involved in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 You made an assumption that i " don't like him". That is incorrect, i have nothing to base a decision on, barring the fact he is SFCs' manager, so i reitterate i remain undecided if he is the ideal person for the job that he is currently employed to do.That will be proven when/if he has to show some real managerial nous,Which i suspect he will have to show this season in the NPC. As a person ...i don't know the man..do you? His grasp of the spoken word, however, does baffle me on occasions.But he should not be pilloried for that fact,neither should he be held on a pedastool either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 think its a no but grudgingly sees that he is doing well! Hello,did'nt think it would be long before you arrived with your stalwalt,unequivicable support for Mr Adkins. I await your stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 The fawning over the bloke makes me want to vomit. Sorry, but it amazes me. Untested at a decent level,yet people cream themselves over every move and comment he does/makes. He speaks in riddles and still needs to prove himself worthy of all the praise,he has done nothing revolutionary at saints thus far..imo. A little bit of balance would not go amiss. Unfortunately because i seem to go against the grain,reference my lapping up everything he does/says,i am castigated.The views on here are often so black and white,you either love him or hate him,for me it's neither,i remain undecided,but pleasantly comfortable that he is at the helm,but he needs to be put under pressure to show his true worth...which will happen this coming season. At this moment i think he has done ok,i sincerely hope he becomes a great,but as of now it is way too early to plant myself in the 'Adkins is a beyond reproach' camp. Nothing vindictive,just keeping my feet on the ground. Having some sort of bad morning, get of wrong side of bed and hit your head on the wall? No evidence here of anyone fawning over Adkins, a doff perhaps to his slightly amusing side, nothing more. No-one has said on this thread how brilliant Adkins is, or anything about his style of football, only commenting on the OP who doesn't seem to understand the difference between being comfortable on the ball and the usual English style of kick and rush. Nothing that says we are any good at being comfortable on the ball, simpley an acknowledgement that this is what NA is clearly trying to achieve. Whether he does or does ntot achieve it will remain to be seen. No-one creams themselves (what a completely purile, childish phrase that is by the way), there is some evidence that NA is doing a good job so far, not much that he isn't, but the jury is still out whether he can do the business at a higher level, although he does have experience at this level with a crap team with no money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 His grasp of the spoken word, however, does baffle me on occasions.But he should not be pilloried for that fact,neither should he be held on a pedastool either. Your grasp of the written word is equally baffling. I'd love to know what a pedastool is. I guess it is something you use to climb on to a pedalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 You made an assumption that i " don't like him". In this case I think that it is a presumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 Your grasp of the written word is equally baffling. I'd love to know what a pedastool is. I guess it is something you use to climb on to a pedalo. Well done,your contibution is invaluable. Thank god my subscription is due for renewal,and i won't have to annoy you any further with my grammatical errors. This place is rapidly going down hill. How dare anyone have a differing opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 (edited) paraphrased..."we're facing two teams on saturday who, unlike the teams in the Championship, will be comfortable in possession of the ball". Hmmm...a massive dissing of the technical abilities of our future opponents this season. Its possibly one of those "Brighton" comments that might be recirculated a few times....unless i have misheard him and he meant to say "like" rather than "unlike". Have i heard him correctly? If so its a revealing comment as it shows what type of approach he thinks most teams will use against us this year..ie pretty much like last year in the main....when i thought we might get a few more teams opening up against us...interesting.. I think its safe for him to say the team that came 6th in Spain and 13th in Germany will play a better standard of football than anyone in the Championship. Edited 17 July, 2011 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 Having some sort of bad morning, get of wrong side of bed and hit your head on the wall? No evidence here of anyone fawning over Adkins, a doff perhaps to his slightly amusing side, nothing more. No-one has said on this thread how brilliant Adkins is, or anything about his style of football, only commenting on the OP who doesn't seem to understand the difference between being comfortable on the ball and the usual English style of kick and rush. Nothing that says we are any good at being comfortable on the ball, simpley an acknowledgement that this is what NA is clearly trying to achieve. Whether he does or does ntot achieve it will remain to be seen. No-one creams themselves (what a completely purile, childish phrase that is by the way), there is some evidence that NA is doing a good job so far, not much that he isn't, but the jury is still out whether he can do the business at a higher level, although he does have experience at this level with a crap team with no money. Just an opinion nothing more,nothing less. Not on this thread, but continually on other threads,the nauseating unrelenting worshipping goes on. Purile? a bit like your opening sentence you mean...or even the fact you had to make a statement about it at all. The irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 Have you watched England and the under21s recently? His comments are spot on. Its time we realise that our football is abysmal and technically light years away from Spain, Portugal, Italy, France Adkins in this case is correct and that includes teams in the Championship and Premiership. Agreed - although there are teams in the Premiership who are comfortable on the ball in the main - Arsenal and United, for example. The problem is even the best teams often contain players who are not comfortable on the ball. Dangerous to liken all of English football to Barca tho' - they could beat anyone because they are outstanding, full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokingFun Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 The fawning over the bloke makes me want to vomit. Sorry, but it amazes me. Untested at a decent level,yet people cream themselves over every move and comment he does/makes. He speaks in riddles and still needs to prove himself worthy of all the praise,he has done nothing revolutionary at saints thus far..imo. A little bit of balance would not go amiss. Unfortunately because i seem to go against the grain,reference my lapping up everything he does/says,i am castigated.The views on here are often so black and white,you either love him or hate him,for me it's neither,i remain undecided,but pleasantly comfortable that he is at the helm,but he needs to be put under pressure to show his true worth...which will happen this coming season. At this moment i think he has done ok,i sincerely hope he becomes a great,but as of now it is way too early to plant myself in the 'Adkins is a beyond reproach' camp. Nothing vindictive,just keeping my feet on the ground. The problem is Lard in the same way that you say some people "fawn" and "cream" theirselves over Adkins, your comments are actually the same but at the opposite end of the scale. I don't think your view of our manager is "balanced" either by ant stretch of the imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 The problem is Lard in the same way that you say some people "fawn" and "cream" theirselves over Adkins, your comments are actually the same but at the opposite end of the scale. I don't think your view of our manager is "balanced" either by ant stretch of the imagination. I am trying to add some balance. In my post i have exactly that,a balanced opinion of Adkins....i am yet to be convinced that he has what it takes when under pressure as he has not faced any yet. When that time comes,in the face of adversity,that will be a true test of strength,character and managerial capabilities. Many have decided already that he is be all and end all.Yet he has not been tested one iota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 I am trying to add some balance. In my post i have exactly that,a balanced opinion of Adkins....i am yet to be convinced that he has what it takes when under pressure as he has not faced any yet. When that time comes,in the face of adversity,that will be a true test of strength,character and managerial capabilities. Many have decided already that he is be all and end all.Yet he has not been tested one iota. you really think you have a balanced view...? seriously..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 Have you watched England and the under21s recently? His comments are spot on. Its time we realise that our football is abysmal and technically light years away from Spain, Portugal, Italy, France Adkins in this case is correct and that includes teams in the Championship and Premiership. This Amazed that for a forum full of supposed fans of Football nobody else has posted what you have done. Hell, there have been enough Press Articles saying the same for the past decade or so. One of the many reasons touted for the changes to the PL Academy system - namely to stop English Kids being exposed to their Dad's on a weekend shouting GET RID OF IT YER IDIOT. Co-incidentally still a lot of them near where I sit when I get the chance to go to SMS The PL is actually slight;y different - mainly because so many clubs employ far more foreign players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 (edited) agree dubai.... many times at SMS last season..when it was blatently clear that saints were passing it around (at home) trying to lure a parked bus out from their bus stop....fans were going nuts and shouting stuff like "get it ****ing forward" and "hurry the fuk up, kick it up the field"....and that is not uncommon I remember vivdly the hartlepool home game and people were booing saints stroking it around the park...why was this...? at NO POINT in the game did we ever look like losing......and we were always going to create chances...many times the season before we got stuck (like oldham at home) where we struggled to get past the 'parked bus'......that never really happened last season...a few close shaves but we did it... english fans in general have no patience at times... I also believe that is why Morgan is divides opinion... IMO..he is a bloody class act, always wanting the ball, always like to go and get the ball from the back (and not letting them lob it long)..always like to play into feet and plays short passes and like to spread the play...of course he is a young lad and at times in an embarrassing set up..but he is class. I think some cant see that as they want the ball forward as quickly as possible......and like hustle and bustle in the middle of the park...neither of which is morgans style... I really believe in general, the middle of the park will be Morgan +1 Edited 17 July, 2011 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc1971 Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 I will be very surprised if Mr Adkins is still employed by SFC in Jan 2012. His record in Div 2 is poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 I will be very surprised if Mr Adkins is still employed by SFC in Jan 2012. His record in Div 2 is poor. in what sense...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 in what sense...? Believe he's referring to his stint with Scunny at Champ level. He kept them up didn't he? For a team of Scunnies size that's not bad, the only complaint they seem to have is his transfer record, something we're reserving judgement on anyway. (Cork is however IMO an excellent buy.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 Have you watched England and the under21s recently? His comments are spot on. Its time we realise that our football is abysmal and technically light years away from Spain, Portugal, Italy, France Adkins in this case is correct and that includes teams in the Championship and Premiership. I couldn't agree with you more. And something very distressing happened to me - I found myself, for the first time in my life, quite happy to see my own country eliminated. And for that utter crap - with no sign of learning or improvement, and with England's young stars' heading the same way as their senior counterparts - Pearce gets a contract extension. I cling to the hope that Adkins is moving us off the same sorry, soul-less course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 Anyone who watched forest vs Leeds last season will know exactly what Adkins was referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 agree dubai.... many times at SMS last season..when it was blatently clear that saints were passing it around (at home) trying to lure a parked bus out from their bus stop....fans were going nuts and shouting stuff like "get it ****ing forward" and "hurry the fuk up, kick it up the field"....and that is not uncommon I remember vivdly the hartlepool home game and people were booing saints stroking it around the park...why was this...? at NO POINT in the game did we ever look like losing......and we were always going to create chances...many times the season before we got stuck (like oldham at home) where we struggled to get past the 'parked bus'......that never really happened last season...a few close shaves but we did it... english fans in general have no patience at times... I also believe that is why Morgan is divides opinion... IMO..he is a bloody class act, always wanting the ball, always like to go and get the ball from the back (and not letting them lob it long)..always like to play into feet and plays short passes and like to spread the play...of course he is a young lad and at times in an embarrassing set up..but he is class. I think some cant see that as they want the ball forward as quickly as possible......and like hustle and bustle in the middle of the park...neither of which is morgans style... I really believe in general, the middle of the park will be Morgan +1 Agree with every word of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 Agree with every word of that. I don't. Schneiderlin has got potential, that's for sure, but IMO what really lets him down is how casual he can be, and so often. He's capable of spraying balls around the park, and of course doing the simple things very efficiently. But far too often he throws in a ridiculously misplaced pass, or gets caught in posession in completely the wrong areas. Highlighted as recently as this pre-season, where a badly misplaced pass led directly to us conceding a goal. I also think he needs a lot of work on his attacking play; again I think he's got potential to score more goals but something's just not quite right when he pushes through into advanced positions. Hustle and bustle or whatever has IMO got nothing to do with it; for a supposed top quality midfielder (for this level) he's just far too prone to making unneccessary mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 Agree with every word of that. Me too. And if we look at teams who went up last season they all - especially Norwich and Swansea - passed the ball well, and weren't caught up in the long ball game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 Saint_Lard AKA Alan Pardew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 I am trying to add some balance. In my post i have exactly that,a balanced opinion of Adkins....i am yet to be convinced that he has what it takes when under pressure as he has not faced any yet. When that time comes,in the face of adversity,that will be a true test of strength,character and managerial capabilities. Many have decided already that he is be all and end all.Yet he has not been tested one iota. You wouldn't say that the last couple of months last season were not serious pressure? Everyone (virtually) was anticipating automatic promotion (via second place), but Huddersfield kept winning too. That was pressure, wasn't it? Well, I certainly felt it. And Adkins seemed in full control to me - making just about all the right decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 I am trying to add some balance. In my post i have exactly that,a balanced opinion of Adkins....i am yet to be convinced that he has what it takes when under pressure as he has not faced any yet. When that time comes,in the face of adversity,that will be a true test of strength,character and managerial capabilities. Many have decided already that he is be all and end all.Yet he has not been tested one iota. pressure? Like having to get us promoted, points behind the others and Huddersfield run? He was under more pressure last season than he is likely to be this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 (edited) Italy and France have been just as erratic in recent years France last 30 years: European Championships: Champions twice, Semi-Finalists once. World Cup: Champions once, Runners Up once, Semi-Finalists twice Italy: European Championships: Runners Up once, Semi-Finalists once, World Cup: Champions twice, Runners up once, Semi-Finalists once England European Championships: Semi-Finalists once World Cup: Semi-Finalists once And those stats are despite England having way more football clubs than ANY other country - according to wiki, in 2006 we had around 40,000 clubs which is 11,000 more than the next highest which was Brazil who have who have around 29,000. English people are sh!t at football, the problem is the arrogance and money in the English game makes that hard for people to accept. Edited 17 July, 2011 by aintforever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 (edited) I couldn't agree with you more. And something very distressing happened to me - I found myself, for the first time in my life, quite happy to see my own country eliminated. And for that utter crap - with no sign of learning or improvement, and with England's young stars' heading the same way as their senior counterparts - Pearce gets a contract extension. I cling to the hope that Adkins is moving us off the same sorry, soul-less course. I don't think I have watched a more depressing game than the u21 v Spain. The Spanish kept the ball pass and probed but failed to apply the clinical finish. At times we chased shadows and when we got it back we gave it back straight away. Henderson...my gosh I wouldnt of paid a tenner for him on his display. I lost count of the times we had a throw in and couldnt even control it and lost the ball....abysmal. This was supposed to be the cream of English talent who just couldn't put together 3 passes. I have no problem with passing the ball backwards to start again but we quite often do not have any ability to break down a defence with incisive quality passing its just safe play either in the U21 or full team. Edited 17 July, 2011 by Give it to Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 I bet a lot of those who moan at SMS about us playing controlled football were those that used to play a lot and shout 'AV IT after they toe poked it about 50 yards ahead of the striker and then moaned at them for not being in position.. As GitR says above, and we saw in the world cup, England players simply aren't comfortable in possession. Think of the 10 yard passers we've given stick to over the years at Saints - Magilton, Bally and many more - English FANS don't like it and Dads don't like their kids doing it. Football is about looking for weaknesses. IMHO a lot of those who moan about Adkins simply have not seen how much last season we looked to mix things up, sometimes long, sometimes Ricky dropping back, sometimes biding our time. It was EXTREMELY different from the games I had seen at the start of the season, it was football played with a BRAIN not with a penis. Noticeable that many of the same people who moaned about us playing hoofball are also moaning about us playing passing football. The DIFFERENCE between the end of last season and the season before is that we are now able to play BOTH types of football when WE want to. But watching Cole or Johnson or Terry trying to play possession football for England..... Same cry always from all of us - FFS Hoof IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 The trouble is with the England players is they seem like they do not have the capacity to play keep ball. Yes they can pass the ball to each other well and probably give a good account of themselves in training, but on the pitch were position, control and movement are just as important they cannot cope. That is the main concern over the academy I have - do we have the right coaches to teach it and type of youngsters that can understand and eventually delivery it on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 17 July, 2011 Share Posted 17 July, 2011 It will take a club like Saints to drag English football back from the brink of despair - I really believe this. The likes of Manure and Chelski will not do it. Even Arsenal will not lead the way in the manner Saints will offer. The key though will lie with the English FA and their ability to change - to see past the 'names' - to rid the national team of the has-beens. Will it happen? I doubt it because there's too much money getting into the hands of people who have a vested interest in things NOT changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghq Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Just a polite observation on how to play football in the best manner. My opinion is that you can pass the ball around in neat patterns all day long, but you won't neccessarily go anywhere unless, that is, members of your team are running intelligently off the ball creating space for defence splitting passes to be played into. It seems to me this is the area of play that is lacking for most of the time and the reason that people are screaming for a longer ball to be played. This is due to the absence of players such as Le Tissier and Jimmy Case, who spring quickly to mind, that could in fact make defence splitting passes during a game. Hopefully we will get back to this standard of football in the near future. Also, I find most Serie A and Spanish games on tv pretty boring when compared to Premier League games, but that's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 (edited) The fawning over the bloke makes me want to vomit. Sorry, but it amazes me. Untested at a decent level,yet people cream themselves over every move and comment he does/makes. He speaks in riddles and still needs to prove himself worthy of all the praise,he has done nothing revolutionary at saints thus far..imo. A little bit of balance would not go amiss. Unfortunately because i seem to go against the grain,reference my lapping up everything he does/says,i am castigated.The views on here are often so black and white,you either love him or hate him,for me it's neither,i remain undecided,but pleasantly comfortable that he is at the helm,but he needs to be put under pressure to show his true worth...which will happen this coming season. At this moment i think he has done ok,i sincerely hope he becomes a great,but as of now it is way too early to plant myself inthe 'Adkins is a beyond reproach' camp. Nothing vindictive,just keeping my feet on the ground. There's no pleasing some people...saint lard. NA has a very positive attitude, and despite his own brand of " football lingo " for the media he has shown that he has focused well since last Sept. (taking Saints from 23rd to 2nd in L1 ....and promotion). Surely you must admit that he is light years ahead of some of the bumbling idiots we've had since Strachans time. Many thought it enough to mumble a load of soccer platitudes that they know fans wanted to hear ...and never produced anything vaguely resembling " good football " , and as for unproven at a decent level ...TRUE (so far) but we previously had an unproven manager who took us to an FA Cup victory and promotion to Div.1 Lawrie McMenemy !, Older fans recall that his " northern manner " didn't go home with Saints fans from the start but his managerial record is second to none in the Saints history. Give NA a chance, he's done very well in only 9 months. If you had written those comments 4-5 years into the future..I might agree but so far I'm very pleased with his input " in the building " or " on the bus " . Edited 18 July, 2011 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Hello,did'nt think it would be long before you arrived with your stalwalt,unequivicable support for Mr Adkins. I await your stats. I can't find it, but there was a table posted, that showed NA came second, only to Mr chewing gum at Manure, in the managers listings, how much better are you expecting him to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 I can't find it, but there was a table posted, that showed NA came second, only to Mr chewing gum at Manure, in the managers listings, how much better are you expecting him to be? when pressure was really on this is how he coped http://www.leaguemanagers.com/managers/mpl-league.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 when pressure was really on this is how he coped http://www.leaguemanagers.com/managers/mpl-league.html Ah! the updated version..........thanks. See Mr Lard, he done better than I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 I'm waiting for this season to evaluate how Nige performs, he's never finished above mid-table in this division, and though things have been good so far the jury's well and truly out on if he can make us challengers in the Championship. My main concern when we signed him was that he had League One sussed but hadn't achieved much above that level, and I wasn't sure he'd be able to attract the players of the right quality to Saints. We shall see, he's done well with Cork but there's a limit to the number of good quality players he's had the chance to influence from being involved with them previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Is Graham Westley,at Stevenage, a better manager than Sir Alex Ferguson? Put it into context,please. Once again, i reitterate,that table does not show the complete picture at all. We were up against the likes of Walsall, with a tremendous squad for league one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 I'm waiting for this season to evaluate how Nige performs, he's never finished above mid-table in this division, and though things have been good so far the jury's well and truly out on if he can make us challengers in the Championship. My main concern when we signed him was that he had League One sussed but hadn't achieved much above that level, and I wasn't sure he'd be able to attract the players of the right quality to Saints. We shall see, he's done well with Cork but there's a limit to the number of good quality players he's had the chance to influence from being involved with them previously. The voice of reason,at last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 I'm waiting for this season to evaluate how Nige performs, he's never finished above mid-table in this division, and though things have been good so far the jury's well and truly out on if he can make us challengers in the Championship. My main concern when we signed him was that he had League One sussed but hadn't achieved much above that level, and I wasn't sure he'd be able to attract the players of the right quality to Saints. We shall see, he's done well with Cork but there's a limit to the number of good quality players he's had the chance to influence from being involved with them previously. I completely agree with you lets hope Adkins does prove to be a very good manager and not like Darren Ferguson who did well in League 1 but not the Championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian H. Cope Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 I'm waiting for NA to fail, so I can come on here & say I told you so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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