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That we'd got an awful lot of penalties???? At the expense of repeating myself ad infinitum Lambert is not a hot shot striker,or at least he wasn't last season, he scored 21 goals of which 8 were penalties.He may do sterling work in the build up phase and slot away spot kicks very prettily but compared to Murray and CMS he wasn't a great goalscorer last season. Barnard was our best open play goalscorer.

 

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Unfortunately seeing as you have now had the nerve to critisize our cult hero you will now be dumped on the 'hasn't got a clue' pile.

 

I would love Ricky to emulate the form he had with us in his first season, I am willing to qive him a chance, I just can't see it.

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Unfortunately seeing as you have now had the nerve to critisize our cult hero you will now be dumped on the 'hasn't got a clue' pile.

 

I would love Ricky to emulate the form he had with us in his first season, I am willing to qive him a chance, I just can't see it.

I think TBF that for some reason, there was something during the close season that affected RL. He was quite ovbiously not the player that he was the previous season for the first third of last. He certainly started to play like his old self later in the season. Who knows? If he can have a good pre-season and get off to a flying start, he may well have a cracking season.

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I'd much rather we could play 3 or 4 players who can get BETWEEN 10-20 goals each - and I believe we have at least 6 players capable of doing this in The Championship (Oxo, Lallana, Connolly, Lambert, Barnard, Guly. Pick any 3 of those, and add one more. I don't like the idea of having all our eggs in 1 basket and relying on 1 new superstar player who might get 30 goals....what happens if they get injured (or more likely the opposition double tag him) and the goals dry up??

Other players are going to weigh in with odd goals and that equates to between 70 and 80 goals in a season. Keep the defence tight and that's a top 6 performance.

Just a thought.....standing back and awaiting the flaming now for daring to be different... :)

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You haven't been to a game in 10 years!! Plus you have proved many times that you're clueless! :)

 

4 games last season in fact,not so dusty from 800 miles away and working 1 saturday in 2.The real reason why I'm clueless is that I don't have a replica shirt,now if I had one I'd be a real supporter, even Alps has an XXXXL sash shirt.

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I think TBF that for some reason, there was something during the close season that affected RL. He was quite ovbiously not the player that he was the previous season for the first third of last. He certainly started to play like his old self later in the season. Who knows? If he can have a good pre-season and get off to a flying start, he may well have a cracking season.

 

That is true. In his first season with us he was so sharp; and he won pretty much everything that was played up to him. At the time I remember saying that he was the closest thing to an on-form Beattie than we'd had since. Which was why it was a bit mystifying to see that last season he so often looked off the pace, and was nowhere near as dominant (or determined) in the air. Perhaps a proper pre-season can do the trick, I certainly hope so because when he's really on his game he's almost unplayable.

 

But the thing with Lambert is that he provides so much more than just goals. In a way he determines the way we play, in that he acts as the fulcrum of the team. Take him out and as team we would have to adapt massively to his absence; and I believe that overall we would lose a lot more than just the goals he scores. His season won't purely be determined by his goal tally, it's a bit more difficult to measure his overall impact than that.

 

But, especially at this level, it's absolutely vital that we see the Ricky from his first season, and not last season.

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Okay well im pleased to hear that we are going to get some players in but i wait to see the level of quality....

 

Worries me when Blackpool are signing players like this

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2015802/Blackpool-set-sign-Mame-Biram-Diouf-Barry-Ferguson.html?ITO=1490

 

and we are being linked to filth like Mellor....if we sign Mellor that is a sign we are not serious about promotion and are just making up the numbers...why are we need in for a player like Diouf....?

 

Im sorry i love adkins and the boys but unless we seriously pull our finger out on the transfer front, this season is going to be a big dissapointment...

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Okay well im pleased to hear that we are going to get some players in but i wait to see the level of quality....

 

Worries me when Blackpool are signing players like this

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2015802/Blackpool-set-sign-Mame-Biram-Diouf-Barry-Ferguson.html?ITO=1490

 

and we are being linked to filth like Mellor....if we sign Mellor that is a sign we are not serious about promotion and are just making up the numbers...why are we need in for a player like Diouf....?

 

Im sorry i love adkins and the boys but unless we seriously pull our finger out on the transfer front, this season is going to be a big dissapointment...

 

But clubs like Blackpool and West ham, and also to a certain extent Brighton - are replacing key players that they have lost.

 

Vaughan, Adam, DJ Campbell (move imminent). Brighton are having to replace Bennett and Murray for e.g.

 

We haven't lost anyone, but we have added one of the most sought after players this summer. Lallana, Chambo, Lambo, Fonte, Cork, would walk into 90% of teams at this level. What a fantastic spine that is by the way, add the likes of Morgan, Guly, Barnard, Harding, Richardson in and around it and we'll be fine.

 

People moaning about our lack of signings is really starting to bug me. Trust the quality we already have, because we have some fantastic players in our team, keyword being ''team''. Teams like the Skates, Forest, Watford have reasons to moan because they can't fill a full subs bench. We really don't know how lucky we have it this summer.

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Sorry Clarke i agree that we have a good squad and are a "team"...that does not mean that we can afford to rest on our laurels and make no improvements...

We are playing in the league above with significantly better teams to what we are used to. If we were in League 1 i would argue that we wouldn't need any signings but we are trying to get to the Premiership now.

 

If you are so deluded you think that a strong League 1 squad is good enough to canter into the play offs...you are wrong.

For me it is all about expectations...we have been told that we want to be a promotion contender...well that is currently not reflected in the transfer activity we are seeing as we are painfully inactive.

 

I am not asking for an overhaul...just 3-4 players who can come in and improve the team. I think you will find that the best teams in the world improve their squads each year...you can't afford to stand still in football.

Lets look at it....Puncheon will go for around a million, as will fish mills and Gobern has gone...we signed Cork for around a million but we will get that back from the Puncheon deal.

 

I am only frustrated because yes we are a good squad but even the most optimistic fan knows that the current squad is mid-table at best...however 2-3 more key signings and i think we would be a strong contender...i can't beleive some fans are happy to walk into a division with teams like Leicester, West Ham and Birmingham with a league 1 squad...madness

 

"we don't know how lucky we have it"...you say....well i say yet another Saints fan happy with mediocrity....yes we have had a terrible last 6 years that doesn't mean we can't expect better in the future.

The club are lucky that they will have around 26,000 capacity to watch their team every week, which shows how big the support base is and just think...excite the fans for once with a big signing and expect to sell more season tickets....simple economics

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MerceSaint28 - I am not deluded, the reality is that we had a championship squad in L1. P'Boro came up with a L1 squad, they have already sold their best player and are replacing them with L1 and L2 players. They have reason to be nervous.

 

We have added a top class Championship player in Jack Cork, so that suggests we won't be resting on our lurrels. We've also got another couple of additions lined up. Are you ITK about Puncheon? I am pretty sure that we've priced him out of a perm move and we'll probably see him move out on a loan deal again.

 

I'm not happy with mediocrity at all, I'm just looking at all the other clubs in the league this year that have a real reason to panic and worry. I'm looking at the teams that have lost their key players, their main men. Then I look at us and see that we have one of the most saught after youngsters in England, a brilliant talent in Lallana and a quality player like Fonte who is back in the league he was very good in previously....oh and we've signed quality like Jack Cork.

 

We need 1 or 2 more players. Any more and it is just adding to the squad for no real reason. Adkins has it right from what he says, add 2 or 3 quality players to the spine and we'll be very competitive. I'm not expecting promotion, it would be mental to expect that in a league which has the quality this has. We can still build and be very competitive though, next season could be a different kettle of fish.

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French players is IMO a very strong possibility: Somebody who is not afraid to get stuck in phyisically but also who is technically able to keep the ball and be perfectly integrated in Adkins style of play.

 

nothing in L'Equipe and if it ain't in L'Equipe it ain't happening, secret squirrel approach or no.

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Don't see why we would want to let Puncheon go out on loan again...might as well draw a line under his time here and get rid.

 

We probably do, but from what I've heard we've put a stupid price on his head (upwards of £1.5m, which Cortese probably feels he's worth) and no clubs are willing to match it. So it may come down to a loan deal just to get him away from the first team.

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Loic Damour impressed on trial for Brighton last week but they aren't signing him. His agent told someone at one of their Friendlies that we were also interested.

 

Captained France U19's and is a good central midfielder - nearly moved to Villa earlier this summer before Houllier left.

 

He is free to leave Strasbourg as they have pretty much gone bust. Brighton forum were raving about him after watching the friendly.

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Loic Damour impressed on trial for Brighton earlier this week but they aren't signing him. His agent told someone at one of their Friendlies that we were also interested.

 

Captained France U19's and is a good central midfielder - nearly moved to Villa earlier this summer before Houllier left.

 

He is free to leave Strasbourg as they have pretty much gone bust.

 

 

 

Strasbourg are in a "depot de bilan" situation,plus they've been relegated from National to CFA because of budget deficits.Jafar Hilali has sold the club to a supporter for the symbolic 1 euro, what happens to them will depend on the DNCG when it hears RCS's appeal against the relegation admistrative.

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Clarke we do in essence have a Championship club i agree...Lallana, Fonte, Chamberlain, Lambert and maybe Scheniderlain would walk into any team in the Champ, that much is obvious.

However we all know it is best squad depth...and overall quality.

 

An outsider would argue that Chaplow was Preston reserve and they got relegated...doubts still surround our captain (who i think should be replaced by Fonte btw)

Centre half is still a problem as i have no desire to see Seabourne get dry humped by a player like CMS next season...etc..i still agree that we pretty much have a Champ squad and Cork was a very solid addition.

 

My worry is that we are a little over 2 weeks to the start of the season and we are probably at least 2 new signings light...fine if they are in the pipeline then great...will be lovely to have them by saturday.

 

I will however be mortified if we sign someone akin to Mellor...i really hope this is a massive understanding because expecting us to pay £500 plus to watch a team with someone like Mellor in the side is a disgrace. He is a failed League 1 player, over-weight and not in line with where the club is going surely?

 

Im not saying we should sign Maynard because frankly i think the money being talked about for the kid is crazy...i would like to see this scouting network we have come up with something though...it would confuse me massively if having been prepared to spend £3 mill on Sharp we go for a cheap option...

 

Anyway let's see what this week brings...if we have a quality centre half for Fonte and a pacey forward with an eye for goal by the end of the week im sure i will be feeling far more optimistic about our chances of success this season

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I think as the squad stands we are not equipped to mount a serious charge on promotion next season. Get new keeper and bigger name striker and we might have a chance. Looks a bit thin though.

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Well there is nothing in l' Equipe as of yet. Doesn't mean it won't be reported later this week.

 

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11981_7045100,00.html

 

I would like to see the club making signings of this nature...

 

Sure its a little risky and could go Ali Dia, but we could pick up some real promise out on the continent, rather than entering a p1ssing contest with Sven over silly priced prem reserves and the like... lets find a Macheda or a Drogba out there!

 

Hopefully our new Danish mega scout is doing his research, and will have some potential targets to bring in.

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Well there is nothing in l' Equipe as of yet. Doesn't mean it won't be reported later this week.

 

May be, L'Equipe know stuff, they knew that Sylvain Marveaux had turned down Liverpool in favour of Newcastle long before any English rags got wind of it. Anyway back to Damour, he's been touted about in Germany a bit according to my informant in Strasbourg, Moenchengladbach and Hoffenheim apparently, don't know how that went for him though.

 

Can't see why we'd need another milieu relayeur though anyway,we're already over flush with them and 2 out of 4 already won't be happy with the bench time they'll be putting in.

Damour would want to play and he's not going to get any game time at Saints straight away, not coming out of a diabolical standard like National.

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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11981_7045100,00.html

 

I would like to see the club making signings of this nature...

 

Sure its a little risky and could go Ali Dia, but we could pick up some real promise out on the continent, rather than entering a p1ssing contest with Sven over silly priced prem reserves and the like... lets find a Macheda or a Drogba out there!

 

Hopefully our new Danish mega scout is doing his research, and will have some potential targets to bring in.

 

Players of that level will be tracked by top clubs all over Europe, we do not stand a chance of competing for this level of player until we are established in the premiership.

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Players of that level will be tracked by top clubs all over Europe, we do not stand a chance of competing for this level of player until we are established in the premiership.

 

Players with an awful disciplinary record like Damour won't be wanted at most clubs, didn't know this before but he copped 12 yellows and a red in 34 games last season. Makes our bad lads look like role models doesn't it.

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Wonder whether that Campbell would have any baring on AOC staying at Saints? They have also got Gervinho.

 

They have also brought in a wonder boy from Colombia and another from Barcelona, I do not doubt they have told us to f**k right off with our 10 million in cash.....if ever they were thinking about it in the first place. Arsenal want young players, they also need off the peg

EPL and Champions league players so they're going to spend their money on the latter and find the former wherever they can but they ain't going to pay the price of the latter for the aforementioned if you get my drift.

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O Oxo is staying...don't know why but i've just got a feeling that he will be here on September 1st.

 

Same. We're in a position to hold out for what we want now, and clubs don't want to pay it! No longer a case of them dictating the deal!

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French players is IMO a very strong possibility: Somebody who is not afraid to get stuck in phyisically but also who is technically able to keep the ball and be perfectly integrated in Adkins style of play.

 

there was a rumour a while back that Schneiderlin was homesick. Bringing a bit of France to us can't be a bad thing so long as the two get on.

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He certainly fits the Adkins mould of being young with potential plus experienced at this level. If a deal is being done could be player and cash involved - plus is he out of contract or refusing to sign an extended deal?

I'm sure there are plenty of people speculating and the vultures circling - personally I'd rather have a British team with a smattering of johnny foreigner than a team full of johnny foreigners and a smattering of British lads. Language barriers aside I think British lads aren't just coming for the money or the next move - they will see Saints as a club going places (like Cork) and want to get on the bus.

Compared to PNE - Saints would be a massive move for the lad.

Here's hoping...

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That is true. In his first season with us he was so sharp; and he won pretty much everything that was played up to him. At the time I remember saying that he was the closest thing to an on-form Beattie than we'd had since. Which was why it was a bit mystifying to see that last season he so often looked off the pace, and was nowhere near as dominant (or determined) in the air. Perhaps a proper pre-season can do the trick, I certainly hope so because when he's really on his game he's almost unplayable.

 

But the thing with Lambert is that he provides so much more than just goals. In a way he determines the way we play, in that he acts as the fulcrum of the team. Take him out and as team we would have to adapt massively to his absence; and I believe that overall we would lose a lot more than just the goals he scores. His season won't purely be determined by his goal tally, it's a bit more difficult to measure his overall impact than that.

 

But, especially at this level, it's absolutely vital that we see the Ricky from his first season, and not last season.

 

Totally agree. Great post!

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Players with an awful disciplinary record like Damour won't be wanted at most clubs, didn't know this before but he copped 12 yellows and a red in 34 games last season. Makes our bad lads look like role models doesn't it.

 

Great..back to the Alehouse !

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In Preston's friendly with Falkirk on Saturday, Mills and Mellor were starting but Treacy nowhere to be seen. Could be tying up a deal here

 

I believe Treacy got longer off than others as he'd been away on International duty. We'll see if he's in tonights line-up against Kilmarnock. PNE fans I know think he's quality but can go missing in games.

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I believe Treacy got longer off than others as he'd been away on International duty. We'll see if he's in tonights line-up against Kilmarnock. PNE fans I know think he's quality but can go missing in games.

 

That seems a typical trait of any winger though, can you name me one who does not ?

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MerceSaint28 - I am not deluded, the reality is that we had a championship squad in L1. P'Boro came up with a L1 squad, they have already sold their best player and are replacing them with L1 and L2 players. They have reason to be nervous.

 

We have added a top class Championship player in Jack Cork, so that suggests we won't be resting on our lurrels. We've also got another couple of additions lined up. Are you ITK about Puncheon? I am pretty sure that we've priced him out of a perm move and we'll probably see him move out on a loan deal again.

 

I'm not happy with mediocrity at all, I'm just looking at all the other clubs in the league this year that have a real reason to panic and worry. I'm looking at the teams that have lost their key players, their main men. Then I look at us and see that we have one of the most saught after youngsters in England, a brilliant talent in Lallana and a quality player like Fonte who is back in the league he was very good in previously....oh and we've signed quality like Jack Cork.

 

We need 1 or 2 more players. Any more and it is just adding to the squad for no real reason. Adkins has it right from what he says, add 2 or 3 quality players to the spine and we'll be very competitive. I'm not expecting promotion, it would be mental to expect that in a league which has the quality this has. We can still build and be very competitive though, next season could be a different kettle of fish.

 

I would agree had we walked the league. We did not !

Norwich City were League 1 champions and did it with ease, yet they strengthened their squad almost immediately with very decisive and shrewd signings. IMO Paul Lambert has done this again over the summer and i think Norwich will hold their own in the Premier league.

If we do not strengthen I stand by my prediction of 19th and a season were we are looking over our shoulder not up to the promised land.

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I would agree had we walked the league. We did not !

Norwich City were League 1 champions and did it with ease, yet they strengthened their squad almost immediately with very decisive and shrewd signings. IMO Paul Lambert has done this again over the summer and i think Norwich will hold their own in the Premier league.

If we do not strengthen I stand by my prediction of 19th and a season were we are looking over our shoulder not up to the promised land.

 

Norwich finished with 3 more points than we did. I'd say that we walked the league in the final 15 games!

 

If we don't strengthen we will not be looking at relegation, mid-table at absoloute worst.

 

You were the one that was harping on about us finishing in the playoffs and missing out on 2nd - which turned out to be a load of turd, so I can safely assume what you are saying now is also a load of turd.

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