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He is worth having, simply because he will cause ANY team problems with his pace and power. Even if we get a Man Utd or an Arse in the Cup, he will give them something to think about. I'm not saying he is a great player, but a fantastic option to have. If we're talking about £3.5m fees for strikers who got 15 goals last season, surely £250k for Antonio has got to be worth a punt.

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He is worth having, simply because he will cause ANY team problems with his pace and power. Even if we get a Man Utd or an Arse in the Cup, he will give them something to think about. I'm not saying he is a great player, but a fantastic option to have. If we're talking about £3.5m fees for strikers who got 15 goals last season, surely £250k for Antonio has got to be worth a punt.

 

Agree. He is young with potential IMO just the sort of player would should be looking at if the price is right. I can't see us signing to many PL level pacy wingers HTBH while we are in the championship and OXO won't be here long.

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Can't agree with a lot of this

 

Meh

 

Not the first time we have not agreed, and won't be the last, which is good and what football and a forum is about (you are wrong though ;) )

 

Pace isn't everything or else Jono quick will be our main man. FWIW btw, I don't see how Antonio is any different out wide to Forte, neither appear to have any technical ability with a football.

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LOL@ this thread.

 

Papa Waigo is not coming back

 

Antonio is not coming back

 

This is good news. Neither player was particularly good. Guly has been far more productive in terms of goals and assists than either of these two legends were in there time here.

 

Ahh but Antonio is quick you say. So is Johnno Quick

Ahh but Antonio is strong, he has power. So does Johnno Quick

 

What is the difference?

 

Antonio clearly isn't good enough for the championship, if he was he'd be a regular in the Reading first team squad.

 

The funniest comment of all was that if he was playing against Man United or Arsenal he'd cause them problems. LOL, that's the thing most people dont seem to understand, players in the premier league are quick, they are strong and guess what? They can play as well. That's why they are premier league players and that's why Antonio is not and never will be. Do you seriously think the likes of Ashley Cole, Evra and co, some of the finest left backs in the world were hoping not to draw Reading in the cup last season because they'd have to face Antoino? Oh no that's right, he wasn't playing for Readings first team. If rumours are to be believed he is off to Crawley, yes D2 Crawley on loan then it appears that premier league full backs can sleep well at night again this season. Lucky them hey!!

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Saw Antonio playing for Reading against Torquay. Wasn't half as good as I saw him play for Saints, and against lower opposition than he played against in L1. Just didn't look the same player at all.

 

For the record, I would love to see him back at Saints.

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Saw Antonio playing for Reading against Torquay. Wasn't half as good as I saw him play for Saints, and against lower opposition than he played against in L1. Just didn't look the same player at all.

 

For the record, I would love to see him back at Saints.

 

So let me get this straight. You saw him play and he was playing against a team worse than he would have faced when at Saints. Played worse than at Saints and we now playing at a higher level, yet you'd love to have him back? Please explain the logic in this.

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So let me get this straight. You saw him play and he was playing against a team worse than he would have faced when at Saints. Played worse than at Saints and we now playing at a higher level, yet you'd love to have him back? Please explain the logic in this.

 

I probably should have quoted the post I was aiming this at.

 

I'm mainly getting at the point that he's not in contention at Reading. It seemed like he could perform for us but couldn't perform for them. Therefore, if he was to come back, maybe, he would turn it on again for us. Obviously that is a big maybe and probably not worth it. Maybe Crawley would be a good loan for him!

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I probably should have quoted the post I was aiming this at.

 

I'm mainly getting at the point that he's not in contention at Reading. It seemed like he could perform for us but couldn't perform for them. Therefore, if he was to come back, maybe, he would turn it on again for us. Obviously that is a big maybe and probably not worth it. Maybe Crawley would be a good loan for him!

 

The fact that newly promoted to LEAGUE 2 Crawley are interested should be a signal that CHAMPIONSHIP Southampton should not be. Maybe????

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This thread is crazy.

 

Why do so many people want to sign a player who cannot get into the starting 11 and is occasionally on the bench for a rival team in this division.

 

Others feel he is better than Forte, who has way more experience and YES who regularly played/plays out wide. Mind you the chief advocate of this is a person who has rarely said a good word about Adkins.

 

Yes, we need to improve our squad. But the way to do this is not the Lowe way, buying lots of fringe players; it is by doing what Adkins says he wants to do - buy players WHO ARE BETTER THAN THOSE ALREADY IN THE TEAM - not the squad, the team!!!

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This thread is crazy.

 

Why do so many people want to sign a player who cannot get into the starting 11 and is occasionally on the bench for a rival team in this division.

 

Others feel he is better than Forte, who has way more experience and YES who regularly played/plays out wide. Mind you the chief advocate of this is a person who has rarely said a good word about Adkins.

 

Yes, we need to improve our squad. But the way to do this is not the Lowe way, buying lots of fringe players; it is by doing what Adkins says he wants to do - buy players WHO ARE BETTER THAN THOSE ALREADY IN THE TEAM - not the squad, the team!!!

 

The irony is that far better players have been dismissed as not good enough and if we were linked with any other reserve player from a championship club there would be uproar with everyone screaming we had no ambition. Because it's a player that was an okayish squad player 2 years ago in league one apparantly he is good enough to cause Man United problems. Mental.

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I rate Antonio over Forte - he's younger, there's more to work with and he has genuine power and strength which Forte doesn't.

 

Antonio was part of a squad that was within a c**t's hair of the premiership and was known for its wing play and pace. Scunny were a team punching well above their weight. So comparing them on team appearances alone can be misleading. We loaned N'guessan with a view to buying him and he got goals in the NPC. I'd rather have Antonio over him anyday. Which is to say wingers are a mercurial bunch. You have to take the rough with the smooth and keep faith with them. A stop start approach does nobody any good.

 

As such, its not hard to understand why a player like Antonio might struggle at one place, even against lower league opposition if he's hardly played; yet make the grade at a higher level somewhere else if backed with proper match time.

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Antonio clearly isn't good enough for the championship, if he was he'd be a regular in the Reading first team squad.

 

Jimmy Kebe was one of the best players in the Championship last season. Hardly surprising Antonio struggled to get a game.

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LOL@ this thread.

 

Papa Waigo is not coming back

 

Antonio is not coming back

 

This is good news. Neither player was particularly good. Guly has been far more productive in terms of goals and assists than either of these two legends were in there time here.

 

Ahh but Antonio is quick you say. So is Johnno Quick

Ahh but Antonio is strong, he has power. So does Johnno Quick

 

What is the difference?

 

Antonio clearly isn't good enough for the championship, if he was he'd be a regular in the Reading first team squad.

 

The funniest comment of all was that if he was playing against Man United or Arsenal he'd cause them problems. LOL, that's the thing most people dont seem to understand, players in the premier league are quick, they are strong and guess what? They can play as well. That's why they are premier league players and that's why Antonio is not and never will be. Do you seriously think the likes of Ashley Cole, Evra and co, some of the finest left backs in the world were hoping not to draw Reading in the cup last season because they'd have to face Antoino? Oh no that's right, he wasn't playing for Readings first team. If rumours are to be believed he is off to Crawley, yes D2 Crawley on loan then it appears that premier league full backs can sleep well at night again this season. Lucky them hey!!

 

I assume that means you think Lambert ,Barnard, Martin, Seaborne and Oxo aren't good enough as none of them have ever been champ players either?

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The funniest comment of all was that if he was playing against Man United or Arsenal he'd cause them problems. LOL, that's the thing most people dont seem to understand, players in the premier league are quick, they are strong and guess what? They can play as well. That's why they are premier league players and that's why Antonio is not and never will be. Do you seriously think the likes of Ashley Cole, Evra and co, some of the finest left backs in the world were hoping not to draw Reading in the cup last season because they'd have to face Antoino? Oh no that's right, he wasn't playing for Readings first team. If rumours are to be believed he is off to Crawley, yes D2 Crawley on loan then it appears that premier league full backs can sleep well at night again this season. Lucky them hey!!

 

I know you're incapable of grasping most arguments you don't agree with, but for the benefit of anyone else:

 

Antonio is not Premier League quality and I'm sure most Premier League clubs could defend against him. However they would have to adapt their game plan to keep him quiet, which gives us an advantage. You wouldn't put someone old and slow up against him, like Le Saux in his latter years. He is likely to be inconsistent, brilliant against some teams and annonymous against others. Much the same as Theo Walcott scoring a hat trick for England one week, then going missing against West Brom the next (cue Turkish saying "now you're comparing Antonio to Walcott OMG I am so much e-cleverer than everyone else etc.")

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His final ball was always poor.

 

But I liked him a lot. And looovvveed his goal in the JPT final.

 

It's sentimental, but I think he fits at Southampton in a way that, say, Puncheon just doesn't.

 

His return to Reading at the end of the 2010 season was a "lose-lose-lose" for all 3 parties.

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Jeeeezzz! This boy does not deserve a seat on the bus imho. We need to be signing players who could step up to the PL, and some of you want Antonio, what a laugh :lol:

 

Not as funny as people thinking hordes of PL standard players are chomping at the bit to sign for saints...............

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Jeeeezzz! This boy does not deserve a seat on the bus imho. We need to be signing players who could step up to the PL, and some of you want Antonio, what a laugh :lol:

 

the concept of us waltzing straight through the NPC is also laughable.

as for him `deserving' a place in our squad, for all the criticism of loanees, this fella was terrific. He was in and out of the side, but whenever he got his chance he gave his all and turned in some excellent displays. I think he had one bad game against Tranmere and he was written off by many after that. Did you go to Bristol Rovers away in the cup? http://www.footytube.com/video/bristol-rovers-southampton-nov06-26961 he was magic. I've not enjoyed watching a player as much in years. Perhaps that's why I and other are sentimental. You're right he is not a premiership player, but even Fonte might not make that grade. For £50k (the price originally talked abut) he'd be worth a punt in the NPC.

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Not as funny as people thinking hordes of PL standard players are chomping at the bit to sign for saints...............

 

I know. Back in late May and early June we were going to sign a shed load of high profile star players.......apparently.

Then when that didn't happen some of us were lambasted for being impatient and it was all going to happen in early July, now it will be in August....apparently.

Anyway, those people with high hopes need not worry as their blushes have been spared by the closure of the rumours site.

Oh, how easy it is to re-write history on a fantasy forum !

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People dismissing a player like Antonio need to look back at history. Certain players fit in at certain clubs but not at others. MA did very well for us and under the right guidance could be a decent player. just because he can't get into Readings side doesn't mean he would not do well for us. i personally would be happy for him to join us.

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I assume that means you think Lambert ,Barnard, Martin, Seaborne and Oxo aren't good enough as none of them have ever been champ players either?

 

Well that's something that remains to be seen isn't it. I have my doubts about a couple of them,we'll find out soon enough I guess.

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I know you're incapable of grasping most arguments you don't agree with, but for the benefit of anyone else:

 

Antonio is not Premier League quality and I'm sure most Premier League clubs could defend against him. However they would have to adapt their game plan to keep him quiet, which gives us an advantage. You wouldn't put someone old and slow up against him, like Le Saux in his latter years. He is likely to be inconsistent, brilliant against some teams and annonymous against others. Much the same as Theo Walcott scoring a hat trick for England one week, then going missing against West Brom the next (cue Turkish saying "now you're comparing Antonio to Walcott OMG I am so much e-cleverer than everyone else etc.")

 

Please explain how Patric Evra and Manchester United would adapt their game to defend against a championship reserve team player.

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I assume that means you think Lambert ,Barnard, Martin, Seaborne and Oxo aren't good enough as none of them have ever been champ players either?

 

Strange spin on the arguement considering one player was already playing for a championship side so if good enough would have played for them, surely. Whilst the others have just been promoted to the championship from the league below and are about to get their chance to prove their ability at this level.

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the concept of us waltzing straight through the NPC is also laughable.

as for him `deserving' a place in our squad, for all the criticism of loanees, this fella was terrific. He was in and out of the side, but whenever he got his chance he gave his all and turned in some excellent displays. I think he had one bad game against Tranmere and he was written off by many after that. Did you go to Bristol Rovers away in the cup? http://www.footytube.com/video/bristol-rovers-southampton-nov06-26961 he was magic. I've not enjoyed watching a player as much in years. Perhaps that's why I and other are sentimental. You're right he is not a premiership player, but even Fonte might not make that grade. For £50k (the price originally talked abut) he'd be worth a punt in the NPC.

 

Totally agree.

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Antonio couldn't pass a kidney stone ffs. End product was terrible.

 

Why are people on here obsessed with bringing people back? That and signing players that supposedly support saints. Why?

 

You dont understand Stevo, Saintsweb has spoken.

 

We should bring him back because some on here like him. Despite him not getting near the first team of our rivals this season. Despite his end product being awful. Depsite him being linked with moves to league 2 clubs. Depsite him coming here and probably being 4th or 5th choice and we are looking to improve the team not add to the squad.

 

Yet despite all this we should bring him back. Because he is a great option, afterall he'd cause Man United and Arsenal problems if he played against them wouldn't he, they'd change their game plan because of a player from Reading reserves apparantly. Because a better player kept him out of Readings team last season. Because he is young. Because he scored a goal once in a cup final against a midtable L1 side.

 

Dont forget, many on here felt he was better than Puncheon this time last year. They know it all dont they.

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You dont understand Stevo, Saintsweb has spoken.

 

We should bring him back because some on here like him. Despite him not getting near the first team of our rivals this season. Despite his end product being awful. Depsite him being linked with moves to league 2 clubs. Depsite him coming here and probably being 4th or 5th choice and we are looking to improve the team not add to the squad.

 

Yet despite all this we should bring him back. Because he is a great option, afterall he'd cause Man United and Arsenal problems if he played against them wouldn't he, they'd change their game plan because of a player from Reading reserves apparantly. Because a better player kept him out of Readings team last season. Because he is young. Because he scored a goal once in a cup final against a midtable L1 side.

 

Dont forget, many on here felt he was better than Puncheon this time last year. They know it all dont they.

 

You have written a lot of nonsense on this thread.

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You dont understand Stevo, Saintsweb has spoken.

 

We should bring him back because some on here like him. Despite him not getting near the first team of our rivals this season. Despite his end product being awful. Depsite him being linked with moves to league 2 clubs. Depsite him coming here and probably being 4th or 5th choice and we are looking to improve the team not add to the squad.

 

Yet despite all this we should bring him back. Because he is a great option, afterall he'd cause Man United and Arsenal problems if he played against them wouldn't he, they'd change their game plan because of a player from Reading reserves apparantly. Because a better player kept him out of Readings team last season. Because he is young. Because he scored a goal once in a cup final against a midtable L1 side.

 

Dont forget, many on here felt he was better than Puncheon this time last year. They know it all dont they.

 

 

you either mock posters for suggesting player that are too good or mock them for suggesting players that are not good enough. Who exactly does fit in between these guidelines of yours?

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you either mock posters for suggesting player that are too good or mock them for suggesting players that are not good enough. Who exactly does fit in between these guidelines of yours?

 

Jack Cork was on my wish list earlier this summer. He is the sort of player we should be looking at young and hungry. Lucas Jutkeiwicz would be worth a look. Other players i'd be interested in if i was Nige are Alex Smithies & Joe Lewis in goal. Peter Clarke from Huddersfield at the back, although this would depend on the progress of Martin and the legs of Jaidi, a loan might be better (see below) Sharp and Maynard are two strikers i'd be interested in and it seems we are although how much mileage are in these we dont know.

 

I'd also like to see us look at good young players on loan, from Arsenal Lansbury would be a good option to have, Frimpong and Craig Eastmond are good players who we may get on loan. From Chelsea Patrick van Aanholt & Jeffrey Bruma, both on loan at Leciester last season and dutch u21 players. Either would be a good option at the back if it's a season too far for Jaidi.

 

A lot depends for us this season on the legs & fitness of Connolly & Jaidi. Only they and Nige know how their bodies and how well they'll hold up. Therefore it might be next season before we push the boat out to replace them.

 

All players that are realistic and would improve the team and squad. I dont think we need major surgery, just prehaps a couple of quality additions, be that permenants or loans. As i say, i am leaning towards a couple of season long loans and see where Jaidi and Conolly take us, if they stay fit they are already top half Championship players. Certainly no room in my squad for Reading reserves that had a couple of good games for us against midtable league one sides.

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Jack Cork was on my wish list earlier this summer. He is the sort of player we should be looking at young and hungry. Lucas Jutkeiwicz would be worth a look. Other players i'd be interested in if i was Nige are Alex Smithies & Joe Lewis in goal. Peter Clarke from Huddersfield at the back, although this would depend on the progress of Martin and the legs of Jaidi, a loan might be better (see below) Sharp and Maynard are two strikers i'd be interested in and it seems we are although how much mileage are in these we dont know.

 

I'd also like to see us look at good young players on loan, from Arsenal Lansbury would be a good option to have, Frimpong and Craig Eastmond are good players who we may get on loan. From Chelsea Patrick van Aanholt & Jeffrey Bruma, both on loan at Leciester last season and dutch u21 players. Either would be a good option at the back if it's a season too far for Jaidi.

 

A lot depends for us this season on the legs & fitness of Connolly & Jaidi. Only they and Nige know how their bodies and how well they'll hold up. Therefore it might be next season before we push the boat out to replace them.

 

All players that are realistic and would improve the team and squad. I dont think we need major surgery, just prehaps a couple of quality additions, be that permenants or loans. As i say, i am leaning towards a couple of season long loans and see where Jaidi and Conolly take us, if they stay fit they are already top half Championship players. Certainly no room in my squad for Reading reserves that had a couple of good games for us against midtable league one sides.

 

Why don't you post more like this?

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Jack Cork was on my wish list earlier this summer. He is the sort of player we should be looking at young and hungry. Lucas Jutkeiwicz would be worth a look. Other players i'd be interested in if i was Nige are Alex Smithies & Joe Lewis in goal. Peter Clarke from Huddersfield at the back, although this would depend on the progress of Martin and the legs of Jaidi, a loan might be better (see below) Sharp and Maynard are two strikers i'd be interested in and it seems we are although how much mileage are in these we dont know.

 

I'd also like to see us look at good young players on loan, from Arsenal Lansbury would be a good option to have, Frimpong and Craig Eastmond are good players who we may get on loan. From Chelsea Patrick van Aanholt & Jeffrey Bruma, both on loan at Leciester last season and dutch u21 players. Either would be a good option at the back if it's a season too far for Jaidi.

 

A lot depends for us this season on the legs & fitness of Connolly & Jaidi. Only they and Nige know how their bodies and how well they'll hold up. Therefore it might be next season before we push the boat out to replace them.

 

All players that are realistic and would improve the team and squad. I dont think we need major surgery, just prehaps a couple of quality additions, be that permenants or loans. As i say, i am leaning towards a couple of season long loans and see where Jaidi and Conolly take us, if they stay fit they are already top half Championship players. Certainly no room in my squad for Reading reserves that had a couple of good games for us against midtable league one sides.

 

only bit of that I would disagree with is about keepers and in particular Lewis

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Jack Cork was on my wish list earlier this summer. He is the sort of player we should be looking at young and hungry. Lucas Jutkeiwicz would be worth a look. Other players i'd be interested in if i was Nige are Alex Smithies & Joe Lewis in goal. Peter Clarke from Huddersfield at the back, although this would depend on the progress of Martin and the legs of Jaidi, a loan might be better (see below) Sharp and Maynard are two strikers i'd be interested in and it seems we are although how much mileage are in these we dont know.

 

I'd also like to see us look at good young players on loan, from Arsenal Lansbury would be a good option to have, Frimpong and Craig Eastmond are good players who we may get on loan. From Chelsea Patrick van Aanholt & Jeffrey Bruma, both on loan at Leciester last season and dutch u21 players. Either would be a good option at the back if it's a season too far for Jaidi.

 

A lot depends for us this season on the legs & fitness of Connolly & Jaidi. Only they and Nige know how their bodies and how well they'll hold up. Therefore it might be next season before we push the boat out to replace them.

 

All players that are realistic and would improve the team and squad. I dont think we need major surgery, just prehaps a couple of quality additions, be that permenants or loans. As i say, i am leaning towards a couple of season long loans and see where Jaidi and Conolly take us, if they stay fit they are already top half Championship players. Certainly no room in my squad for Reading reserves that had a couple of good games for us against midtable league one sides.

 

Damnit Turkish, go back to posting rubbish :( People will start to remember that you're a half decent poster if you're not careful.

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I haven't seen much of him recently, but while we had him he looked a decent prospect I thought, quick, strong, and he knows how to score too. He very nearly 'stole the show' with a mighty performance when we beat Carlisle at St Marys back in 2010 - a glimpse of things to come maybe. So very obviously in need of a move the current situation is a near criminal waste of talent that should not be tolerated.

 

All just a fans opinion of course, the usual suspect need not take offence !

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Jack Cork was on my wish list earlier this summer. He is the sort of player we should be looking at young and hungry. Lucas Jutkeiwicz would be worth a look. Other players i'd be interested in if i was Nige are Alex Smithies & Joe Lewis in goal. Peter Clarke from Huddersfield at the back, although this would depend on the progress of Martin and the legs of Jaidi, a loan might be better (see below) Sharp and Maynard are two strikers i'd be interested in and it seems we are although how much mileage are in these we dont know.

 

I'd also like to see us look at good young players on loan, from Arsenal Lansbury would be a good option to have, Frimpong and Craig Eastmond are good players who we may get on loan. From Chelsea Patrick van Aanholt & Jeffrey Bruma, both on loan at Leciester last season and dutch u21 players. Either would be a good option at the back if it's a season too far for Jaidi.

 

A lot depends for us this season on the legs & fitness of Connolly & Jaidi. Only they and Nige know how their bodies and how well they'll hold up. Therefore it might be next season before we push the boat out to replace them.

 

All players that are realistic and would improve the team and squad. I dont think we need major surgery, just prehaps a couple of quality additions, be that permenants or loans. As i say, i am leaning towards a couple of season long loans and see where Jaidi and Conolly take us, if they stay fit they are already top half Championship players. Certainly no room in my squad for Reading reserves that had a couple of good games for us against midtable league one sides.

 

Bruma's gone to Hamburg. The others would be a good shout.

 

Antonio was one of my favourite players in recent years, not sure if he'd cut it in the championship though.

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