Thedelldays Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Yes, but any payments due like that will be priced into the deal when the selling club decides what they will or won't accept. Having already accepted £3.25m, Donny aren't now going to go, "tell you what Billy, we'll give you £500k of that if you leave". fuk knows....then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 It's hard enough for us fans to know what those players are on so how would BS know? I guess he could have asked Yes. Up to us whether we tell him or not, but we know those wage-matching clauses exist in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 I can see a newly promoted Premier League club paying £4 - £5 million for Maynard. Would a Championship club (other than Leicester) pay that money for him? No. City are holding out for a Premier League club to buy him. Danny Graham has a better goalscoring record and went for just over £3 million. I'd spunk £4 mill on him, I think Maynard is a decent player and could add a bit of pace to the side. £5 mill is a bit steep but it is due to the transfer climate as it is and the new uk player rulings thats what you pay. I do however think that both Barnard and Guly have a lot of potential to do damage in this division this year, but for me the jury is out for Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Yes. Up to us whether we tell him or not, but we know those wage-matching clauses exist in football. This I was going to post that in my 1st post. He only has to turn around and say I must be paid at least as much as the highest earner OR on the flipside, I will only come for £x and then we may have to uprate Lallana, Fonte etc who all could equally be on a similar highest earner deal ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 I'd spunk £4 mill on him, I think Maynard is a decent player and could add a bit of pace to the side. £5 mill is a bit steep but it is due to the transfer climate as it is and the new uk player rulings thats what you pay. I do however think that both Barnard and Guly have a lot of potential to do damage in this division this year, but for me the jury is out for Lambert. I remain to be convinced Maynard is worth £4 million. He's definitely not worth £5 million. I really think we can do better with less money on a striker from abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 The interview on which the Sky Sports story is based... http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster/sharp_keen_to_test_himself_in_top_flight_but_for_now_rovers_come_first_1_3575929 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 I reckon he realises that he has missed out on his duty free and he is having regrets.. If he had joined us he would have been in Switzerland now. On the way back he could have topped up on his duty frees. Instead Doncaster had their first match of pre season at Armthorpe(is that where Last of the Summer Winne is based?) and their next pre season game is at Barrow. Life in the fast lane at Donny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Maybe its not about money, he just didn't want to uproot his family to the other end of the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 He is an alright player, has a decent scoring record. But he isn't worth £3.25m......Graham who was the top scorer in the league went for about that and he scored 9 more league goals then him. The same goes for Maynard. he was injured for most of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Having read the article it seems he was not offered a salary he thought he was worth and/or he was given no guarantee that he would be first choice but a squad player. I am sure we will not alter our terms. We walked away because of whatever issue it was and so did he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Does anyone have any idea what the 'Top' rate being paid to a Saints player is at present? I was told (recently) that it is £15000 per week and that's why CMS and Billy didn't want to come here. Why the hell would the '****ehawks' pay £22000 (Allegedly) per week to CMS? Compare the Prem 'Posers' to the Championship and its only the wages at Leicester that fall into line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Oh! Come obn. If I could afford it I'd move back South tomorrow!Maybe its not about money, he just didn't want to uproot his family to the other end of the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Is the club offering potential new recruits a substantial wage increase for achieving promotion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 "Southampton are a big club and had the deal been right then I would have negotiated with them but it wasn't." So he didn't speak to us, assuming it was just the agent we spoke to. Obviously tried his luck for a high wage or/and contract and we backed down. Sounds like that piece was a please offer again and I'll reduce my demands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Ha, you say that, but the Skates paid Spurs for Asmir Begovic to join Stoke. I'm pretty sure what actually happened was that Spurs paid the Skate Cheats £1m for Begovic, only for them to sell Begovic to Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Obviously wouldn't accomodate his whippets at the training ground. His loss, not ours. And what, exactly, is wrong with whippets? Lovely breed of hound. Very intelligent and loving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Sounds to me like he wants to come but is trying to haggle more wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 I don't buy the squad player arguement. £3.25m is a heck of a lot for someone destined to start 2 out of every 5 matches, and Nicola would want a lot more value for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 maybe he wasn't offered the shirt number he wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Obviously wouldn't accomodate his whippets at the training ground. His loss, not ours. Our superior catering simply did not offer mushy peas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Reckon we just missed ourselves another Puncheon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Reckon we just missed ourselves another Puncheon... Not even in the same league as that moaning little bast*rd. Puncheon has not 'felt right' at any club he has ever been at. Sense says that Billy's agent tried it on a little too hard, I have no bad blood for Mr Sharpe for that, he is at the relegation favourites and we are on the up, its his loss not ours, and tbf, if and when donny get relegated I expect he will get a move anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 The main thing im taking from this is that we're willing to spend 3.25 million on a player!! It's unheard of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 The main thing im taking from this is that we're willing to spend 3.25 million on a player!! It's unheard of! Very similar price to what Agustin Delgado cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 The main thing im taking from this is that we're willing to spend 3.25 million on a player!! It's unheard of! Absolutely what I was going to say!! Dead chuffed and if I remember Delgado was signed after an OS poll where we all voted for 'break the bank for a star striker' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 Very similar price to what Agustin Delgado cost. But it doesn't happen here much, in the last few years we've struggled to get the funds for a bloody loan signing, so to see us able to go in with these size of bids is reassuring for our future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 I'd spunk £4 mill on him, I think Maynard is a decent player and could add a bit of pace to the side. £5 mill is a bit steep but it is due to the transfer climate as it is and the new uk player rulings thats what you pay. I do however think that both Barnard and Guly have a lot of potential to do damage in this division this year, but for me the jury is out for Lambert. I have not seen anything from Barnard that shows this potential, Guly I fully accept. Connolley showed for me the short comings in Barnard and Lambert, something that has not gone unnoticed with Adkins in our pursuit of a pacey striker. For this type of money I can see us picking up far better on the continent. The big question will be whether Lambert is truly injury free this season and can perform to this level, because last years performances will not be good enough. Then again, how much can we get out of Connolley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 Might be BS but heard BS wanted £50k a week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 Might be BS but heard BS wanted £50k a week! seems about fair for someone that scored 15 goals in the second division last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 "Southampton are a big club and had the deal been right then I would have negotiated with them but it wasn't." So he didn't speak to us, assuming it was just the agent we spoke to. Obviously tried his luck for a high wage or/and contract and we backed down. Sounds like that piece was a please offer again and I'll reduce my demands. My opinion would be that we were not prepared to pay his agents fees for the move, something he could be contractually committed for? I would be sure for the right player that this could be over come, but I just don't feel Sharp is that player. We have too many forwards already with a injury history that is not optimum. I just cannot see the logic in adding one more to that list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 Looks like he is now off to Leeds United Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 To be fair, he sounds like he would have been another Kevin Phillips character anyway. For that money we could probably do better. Hopefully I won't eat my words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 i can honestly say i don't care where he goes. along with maynard i never thought he was that great tbh and we can find better i'm sure. id rather have another unkown guly type signing than spend 3m+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 Might be BS but heard BS wanted £50k a week! He's about 2 years too late and 20 miles too far west for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 I have not seen anything from Barnard that shows this potential, Guly I fully accept. Connolley showed for me the short comings in Barnard and Lambert, something that has not gone unnoticed with Adkins in our pursuit of a pacey striker. For this type of money I can see us picking up far better on the continent. The big question will be whether Lambert is truly injury free this season and can perform to this level, because last years performances will not be good enough. Then again, how much can we get out of Connolley? Busy striker with an eye for goal, given a run in the team and up his confidence I think he could be a decent front man, certainly to the level of Billy Sharpe, I must admit I was never overawed with the Billy rumour apart from the fact that it was a decent sign of intent. We don't need sniffers (BS) or busy men (CMS) as we already have that angle covered. We need pace to add a different dimension, perhaps Adkins has worked on Forte ?? I don't know. As for Connolly he is past it for me, his movement is top class though, he really has a real footballers brain, something that hopefully he can teach to Barnard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 i can honestly say i don't care where he goes. along with maynard i never thought he was that great tbh and we can find better i'm sure. id rather have another unkown guly type signing than spend 3m+ Hallelujah!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 what is so special about maynard to make him a £4m+ NPC striker...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 what is so special about maynard to make him a £4m+ NPC striker...? What's so special? Nothing really, in my opinion. But there are clubs in the Premier League who'd happily pay that figure. He's the type of signing that Wigan, Stoke, Norwich, West Brom, Swansea or QPR would make. The fee is probably £4 million or £5 million because Championship clubs would hesitate but Premier League clubs wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 What's so special? There are clubs in the Premier League who'd happily pay that figure. He's the type of signing that Wigan, Stoke, Norwich, West Brom, Swansea or QPR would make. The fee is probably £4 million or £5 million because Championship clubs would hesitate but Premier League clubs wouldn't. then why arent they...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 what is so special about maynard to make him a £4m+ NPC striker...? Nowt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 then why arent they...? You'd have to ask them really - maybe they will bid for him in the next few weeks, or already have. You never know. Stoke are set to sign Carlton Palmer so perhaps their sights have been set a little higher. I think Wigan would be interested though, definitely. If Swansea hadn't signed Graham I think Maynard would be on their list, QPR are spending little as they're about to be bought out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 You'd have to ask them really - maybe they will bid for him in the next few weeks, or already have. You never know. Stoke are set to sign Carlton Palmer so perhaps their sights have been set a little higher. I think Wigan would be interested though, definitely. If Swansea hadn't signed Graham I think Maynard would be on their list, QPR are spending little as they're about to be bought out. so, he is a player the likes of stoke, QPR, wigan etc would sign...depsite not actually bidding for him.... righto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 so, he is a player the likes of stoke, QPR, wigan etc would sign...depsite not actually bidding for him.... righto All I'm saying is, he's the typical kind of player that those clubs or newly promoted clubs would, or like to, sign. Happy to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 You'd have to ask them really - maybe they will bid for him in the next few weeks, or already have. You never know. Stoke are set to sign Carlton Palmer so perhaps their sights have been set a little higher. I think Wigan would be interested though, definitely. If Swansea hadn't signed Graham I think Maynard would be on their list, QPR are spending little as they're about to be bought out. Blimey, must desperate. He must be mid 40s now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 Blimey' date=' must desperate. He must be mid 40s now.[/quote'] Oops! I saw his name on the humble pie thread, stuck in my head. I did of course mean Carlton Cole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 Bring back Papa. He's fast, tricky and opportunistic in the goalmouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 15 July, 2011 Share Posted 15 July, 2011 Bring back Papa. He's fast, tricky and opportunistic in the goalmouth. Opportunistic in the goal mouth? Remember the Pompey game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 Why has he got two noses??? lol! I love comments like this...more of it I say!!! Real shame if we lose Sharp IMHO. A super striker at this level about to make the move to the Premier League if given the break. Saints certainly would give him that chance. I think he's made a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 What's so special? Nothing really, in my opinion. But there are clubs in the Premier League who'd happily pay that figure. He's the type of signing that Wigan, Stoke, Norwich, West Brom, Swansea or QPR would make. The fee is probably £4 million or £5 million because Championship clubs would hesitate but Premier League clubs wouldn't. He's not the sort of player any of those clubs would sign if you ask me. The established Prem sides are aiming higher and the promoted sides have bought or got better. The only reason the money is like that is that there are very few decent strikers out there that NPC sides can attract is there us a supply/demand thing going on. If you (Prem side) were going for a pacey little striker than DJ Cambell makes much more sense than Maynard seeing as he proved he could do it at the top level and is available for around £1.5m, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 18 July, 2011 Share Posted 18 July, 2011 He's not the sort of player any of those clubs would sign if you ask me. The established Prem sides are aiming higher and the promoted sides have bought or got better. The only reason the money is like that is that there are very few decent strikers out there that NPC sides can attract is there us a supply/demand thing going on. If you (Prem side) were going for a pacey little striker than DJ Cambell makes much more sense than Maynard seeing as he proved he could do it at the top level and is available for around £1.5m, Not sure I agree but it is a game full of opinions after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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