Colinjb Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 For our first game in the Liebherr era, 2 years ago v Millwall, our starting eleven looked like this: Southampton: Davis, Murty, Harding, Schneiderlin (Thomson, 83mins), Perry, Thomas, Wotton, Lallana, Paterson (Gobern, 69mins), Saganowski, James (Gillett, 74mins). Subs not used: Bialkowski, Holmes, Pulis, Lancashire. Scorer: Paterson (51mins) -------------- Paterson --------- Saganowski ------------- Lallana ------- Schneiderlin -------- Wotton -------- James Harding ------- Thomas ----------- Perry ----------- Murty ------------------------- Davis -------------------------- Subs: Thomson, Gobern, Gillett, Holmes, Pulis, Lancashire Only four of the starting eleven now remain and three of the back four featured in less then half our games that year. Frankly, given our experience in League 1 level it was a really good draw that they managed against Millwall, a side who won promotion that year. Amazing to think how far we have come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 What an incredibly slow team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Realistically only Lallana out of the 10 outfield players is a nailed on starter now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 That subs bench is the stuff of nightmares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Chuckle Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Realistically only Lallana out of the 10 outfield players is a nailed on starter now. Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Chuckle Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Davis sorry missed the outfield bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintAndy14 Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Schneiderlin? Not a nailed on starter what with Hammond (captain), Chaplow and Cork also fighting for a CM position I wouldn't have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Schneiderlin? As already said, not with Chaplow, Cork and Hammond in the squad, will start very often i agree, but far from nailed on, especially away from home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Can't believe Saganowski is in that line up. Seems centuries ago that we had him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Seems centuries ago that we had him. He left in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 He left in 2010. Centuries since he actually did anything for us then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 14 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 14 July, 2011 He left in 2010. It is amazing to think that one way or another he was around until near the end of the January 2010 transfer window. Only 18 months ago. He, an international striker with champions' league experience was being kept out of the side by Rickie Lambert, who had never played abover League 1 level at the time. Just shows, horses for courses and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 I see MLG has outdone himself and acted like a moron on yet another thread. Is he familiar with the word 'seems' ? For someone who prides himself on correcting other people, his literary skills leave a lot to be desired. I also note he's changed his location and avatar back to what it was before, perhaps he finally realised he's not funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 14 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 14 July, 2011 I see MLG has outdone himself and acted like a moron on yet another thread. Is he familiar with the word 'seems' ? For someone who prides himself on correcting other people, his literary skills leave a lot to be desired. I also note he's changed his location and avatar back to what it was before, perhaps he finally realised he's not funny. Let us not let a smartarse ruin a perfectly good thread now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Let us not let a smartarse ruin a perfectly good thread now. I wouldn't even say he's that smart. But yes, you're quite right. Not heard much about Simon Gillett lately, given the amount of time we spent weighing up whether or not to keep him, I can't say I've regretted the final decision to let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 14 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Not heard much about Simon Gillett lately, given the amount of time we spent weighing up whether or not to keep him, I can't say I've regretted the final decision to let him go. He is still part of the scene at Donny, but given he's only got about 22 appearances (according to wikipedia) since he joined full time shows that he is playing at least on and off up there. Was nice of him to have a cameo at the JPT final. Along with Davis, Mills and Wotton they provided an interesting link to our past on that fantastic day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 (edited) I see MLG has outdone himself and acted like a moron on yet another thread. Is he familiar with the word 'seems' ? For someone who prides himself on correcting other people, his literary skills leave a lot to be desired. I also note he's changed his location and avatar back to what it was before, perhaps he finally realised he's not funny. Seems you are overreacting a tad. All he did was confirm the month Saganowski actually left, which if anything underlined your assertion that it seemed amazing he was around at the start of that season. IIRC Saganowski was an extremely reluctant participant in some of the pre-season matches, though that was the case in 2008 as well. Edited 14 July, 2011 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Seems you are overreacting a tad He's a troll. What more can I say than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 He's a troll. What more can I say than that. As I 've said to you before. If you find me annoying, put me on your ignore list. By not doing so and still complaining is a little strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 As I 've said to you before. If you find me annoying, put me on your ignore list. By not doing so and still complaining is a little strange. I told you to stop quoting me. You are a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 I told you to stop quoting me. You are a troll. I'll quote who I want thanks, and post within the forum rules, if you don't like my posts then stop complaining about them and put me on your ignore list. You don't really have a leg to stand on when you complain all the time about something you can quite easy alter so you don't have to see anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 I'll quote who I want thanks, and post within the forum rules, if you don't like my posts then stop complaining about them and put me on your ignore list. And I'll ignore who I want - the fact is I shouldn't have to, but your facetiousness that I and other users have experienced is beyond a joke now. I don't like your posts, you're quite right. You are not the only one with access to Wikipedia. Grow up and start contributing something more worthwhile, if you actually have to. Over and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 If people would stop talking such rot MLG wouldn't have to correct them. It's a vicious circle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 I see MLG has outdone himself and acted like a moron on yet another thread. Oh dear Hello pot as the story goes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 14 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 14 July, 2011 If there's a moderator about anywhere, please lock this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 (edited) Looking back at that team, it's a shame. I had high hopes for James, Gillett, Thomson and Paterson going into that season. I thought in an easier league with investment in some decent team mates, they would flourish. Sadly none of them really lived up to their promise, althout it was good to see Lallana and Morgan coming good. Murty should be a lesson to us about taking on aging players with dubious fitness. It just never works. P.S. Is it really so hard not to act like a w*nker on the internet? Look I'll show you how it's done... Please post insulting and provocative replies to this post and I will demonstrate the fine art of ignoring. Edited 14 July, 2011 by Lighthouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 If there's a moderator about anywhere, please lock this. No just get back onto what you post originally, just because some people want to act like little kids. Delete their posts and carry on with this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 14 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Looking back at that team, it's a shame. I had high hopes for James, Gillett, Thomson and Paterson going into that season. I thought in an easier league with investment in some decent team mates, they would flourish. Sadly none of them really lived up to their promise, althout it was good to see Lallana and Morgan coming good. Murty should be a lesson to us about taking on aging players with dubious fitness. It just never works. Sadly we didn't learn that after Idiakez, Makin etc. Murty looked ok though until his injury against Brum in the league cup. He never really came back from that sadly, remember seeing him at Walsall in December and he was defensively ok, but couldn't pass a ball to save his life. I was really dissapointed to see Paterson go, but ultimately it was right for him to leave and Barnard to come in, conviction pending anyway. Lloyd James in particular always felt like a bit of a scapegoat to me, he was after all a central midfielder played at Right back for a large amount of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Sadly we didn't learn that after Idiakez, Makin etc. Murty looked ok though until his injury against Brum in the league cup. He never really came back from that sadly, remember seeing him at Walsall in December and he was defensively ok, but couldn't pass a ball to save his life. I was really dissapointed to see Paterson go, but ultimately it was right for him to leave and Barnard to come in, conviction pending anyway. Lloyd James in particular always felt like a bit of a scapegoat to me, he was after all a central midfielder played at Right back for a large amount of time. Some of his worst performances came in central midfield though. Leeds away sticks in my mind as being particularly forgettable and I vaguely remember him being subbed on, then off again 20 minutes later in 1 game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 14 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Some of his worst performances came in central midfield though. Leeds away sticks in my mind as being particularly forgettable and I vaguely remember him being subbed on, then off again 20 minutes later in 1 game. We were generally forgettable that game though.... especially with Papa Waigo playing in a defensive role to try and counteract Leed's threat from the left wing. We didn't really click until the end when Harding (I think) flashed a long range shot just wide. Was a bloody cold day too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Apologies for earlier. I remember watching Jake Thomson for the U18's. He seemed a natural leader, vocal, strong, calm under pressure, had a decent amount of skill. But it seems he had his chances to impress, two loan spells in lower divisions and we gave him a handful of appearances, and it never worked out. Then again, Jamie Hatch was touted as a future great, he's in Australia in the Queensland State League. Jamie White too, although I understand he had a bad time with injuries. To say that team against Millwall was cobbled together would be an understatement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 That subs bench is the stuff of nightmares. Even more frightening that many of them were first team regulars in the division above the season we were relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 He's a troll. What more can I say than that. Well, you could try justifying it. He generally brings facts to an argument. If people don't want to discuss the flaws in their preconceptions after the facts have been added to the debate, I think that says more about them than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 Sadly we didn't learn that after Idiakez, Makin etc. Murty looked ok though until his injury against Brum in the league cup. He never really came back from that sadly, remember seeing him at Walsall in December and he was defensively ok, but couldn't pass a ball to save his life. I was really dissapointed to see Paterson go, but ultimately it was right for him to leave and Barnard to come in, conviction pending anyway. Lloyd James in particular always felt like a bit of a scapegoat to me, he was after all a central midfielder played at Right back for a large amount of time. Paterson was a trier, but never looked good enough for League One. James will probably grow into a vaguely competent midfielder, but everyone we've brought into midfield and in defence since is better than him. I'd go as far to say Jermaine Wright looked more effective than he did in similar positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 (edited) I bet his is a nailed on starter, he's a quality above and none of the others can fill his role. If he's fit, Adkins will play him. Managers understand what he brings to the team. Depends on formation, but I'd imagine Cork and Schneiderlin will become the first choice partnership if it's a 2. Schneiderlin wasn't even a nailed on starter last season when he was fit, so I'm not sure what you're basing that on. He didn't start at Plymouth, having been back fit since the Swindon match. He was also a sub away to Huddersfield, when you'd expect our best side to be on the pitch. Mind you, he did play a lot of games even after we signed Chaplow. Edited 14 July, 2011 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 I must have seen a different 2010/11 then as whenever he was fit he played and played well IMO. Like I said, you'll have to wait and see what Adkins does, but I seriously doubt you'll be seeing a fit Schneiderlin on the bench. As I said, at the end of the season he was fit and on the bench at Plymouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 I bet his is a nailed on starter, he's a quality above and none of the others can fill his role. If he's fit, Adkins will play him. Managers understand what he brings to the team. Depends on formation, but I'd imagine Cork and Schneiderlin will become the first choice partnership if it's a 2. I would wager we'll not start with Cork AND Schneiderlin - I'm not sure they will compliment each other and we'll lose any midfield battle as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 14 July, 2011 Share Posted 14 July, 2011 That subs bench is the stuff of nightmares. Pulis made the bench! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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