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Well, I've got a spent criminal conviction and I've been over three times in the last couple of years. Had no problems getting the ESTA visa. I know for sure that they get very uppity if you travel over twice in the same year.

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Joey's an absolute legend in my eyes. Obviously had a pretty rough upbringing and a nasty streak particularly when drunk but he appears to be serious about re-forming his character. He is constantly championing the Sporting Chance clinic and speaks his mind which makes a refreshing change coming from such a high profile footballer. ON form alone, he should be in the England team.

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How strict are the USA on getting VISAs for those with dodgy records??

 

Just asking for a friend of course.

 

I didn't think Brits needed visa due to our "special realtionship". I've been told when you fly into the US of A, you can sign a visa waiver form and if you tick the "No" box when asked if you have a conviction on the waiver form you have a 99.9% chance of strolling in unchallenged as they wont have record of any conviction over there. All from what i've been told, of course.

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We used to be part of the visa waiver system. This worked as you described, with a form being filled out on the plane. And yes, this was one of the kickbacks from the special relationship.

 

This system has been replaced with ESTA, which is essentially the same thing, with one major difference. You have to apply for a visa up-front, and they tell you whether you're accepted before you travel. All done online, so there is more chance that they can spot serious problems and prevent you from entering the country.

 

From my own experiences, US Immigration really has one goal. To make sure you go home after your trip. I was in NJ in March, NC a couple of weeks ago. Got loads of questions on my second visit about why I was coming to the US twice in the same year. This is also borne out by their "special relationship" with the Republic of Ireland. They got so fed up catching Irishmen turning up with suitcases full of tools and having to pay for their flights back that the Irish now go through immigration in Dublin.

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Many, many years ago I was on a charter trip to Florida and we all had our passports / Visas checked

on arrival in Jacksonville. For the trip home 10 days later no American officials turned up when they were

supposed to so we all waited and waited. The pilot got fed up with this and told all passengers to board as

we were going regardless. He got clearence from the tower and we took off. I did wonder what would happen

the next time I went to the U.S. the next year but as they didn't appear to have computers they didn't notice.

Mind you I had renewed my passport by then so no stamps showed saying I had been before and as they didn't

ask I never told them.

 

 

 

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We used to be part of the visa waiver system. This worked as you described, with a form being filled out on the plane. And yes, this was one of the kickbacks from the special relationship.

 

This system has been replaced with ESTA, which is essentially the same thing, with one major difference. You have to apply for a visa up-front, and they tell you whether you're accepted before you travel. All done online, so there is more chance that they can spot serious problems and prevent you from entering the country.

 

From my own experiences, US Immigration really has one goal. To make sure you go home after your trip. I was in NJ in March, NC a couple of weeks ago. Got loads of questions on my second visit about why I was coming to the US twice in the same year. This is also borne out by their "special relationship" with the Republic of Ireland. They got so fed up catching Irishmen turning up with suitcases full of tools and having to pay for their flights back that the Irish now go through immigration in Dublin.

 

I've just had a look at that online application. One of the application questions was something along the lines of "are you a drug trafficer or coming into the country to commit criminal or immoral acts?" F*cking lol!!!

 

It seems you're alright as long as you haven't been sentanced to over five years in the nic or have been done for serious crimes such as drugs, rape, murder, manslaughter, being a peado or fraud related things.

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Turkish the ESTA questionaire has nothing on the landing card you had to fill out on the plane.

 

Are you a terrorist

 

Are you planning to carry out any terrorist activities in the US

 

and then loads more equally stupid questions

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Turkish the ESTA questionaire has nothing on the landing card you had to fill out on the plane.

 

Are you a terrorist

 

Are you planning to carry out any terrorist activities in the US

 

and then loads more equally stupid questions

 

A particularly stupid US Immigration officer had the front to tell me my nationality was "UK" (a nation) as opposed to "British" (a nationality).

 

I bit my tongue on the subject, but God knows how many other people had to go through that particular piece of un-education...

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