benjii Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 Because i am interested to know how someone at the age of 14, can have such an indepth appreciation of music c2004/05 when they would have been 12 & 13 to describe a fine debut album in early 06 as a "breath of fresh air". What were you into around that time? Just out of interest like. Move away from the semantics and look at what he is actually saying. There is nothing surprising about a youngish teen hearing an album for the first time and thinking "****, that's changed my understanding of music forever!". I remember the first time I heard Nevermind and that's exactly what happened. I didn't need to be a contemporary music savant to realise I was listening to something important; in my life at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 One of the most over-rated bands ever IMO. Critical hindsight is somewhat irrelevant. It's what they did. They changed music and changed lives on a grand scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 10 July, 2011 One of the most over-rated bands ever IMO. They were okay but tended to be very popular with nerdy studenty types. Foo's are much better IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 Foo Fighters are to Nirvana what the Style Council were to The Jam and Fun Boy Three were to The Specials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 They were okay but tended to be very popular with nerdy studenty types. Foo's are much better IMO If Nirvana were 'nerdy studenty types', who exactly do you think the Foo Fighters are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 Why would anyone compare present Foo Fighters with Nirvana anyway? It's like comparing Steps with Anal **** (if one of them was in both bands). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 They were okay but tended to be very popular with nerdy studenty types. Foo's are much better IMO Wrong. Massive fan of the Foos, but Nirvana were much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 They were okay but tended to be very popular with nerdy studenty types. I'm like you, Turkish. I only like music based on who else likes it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 I'm like you, Turkish. I only like music based on who else likes it too. Any relation to Gary Coleman, stain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 Is he that fella from Midnight Caller? "Goodnight America... wherever you are." I liked that show. What happened to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 Anyway, this is how you "smash it" live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg6JFNOn6YE Remarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 Any relation to Gary Coleman, stain? Careful, Hypo has already put detective Baj on the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 Is he that fella from Midnight Caller? "Goodnight America... wherever you are." I liked that show. What happened to it? I think it got taken off air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 10 July, 2011 If Nirvana were 'nerdy studenty types', who exactly do you think the Foo Fighters are? Just how I remember it that's all, I recall most of the nirvana fans BITD as being nerdy types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 10 July, 2011 Wrong. Massive fan of the Foos, but Nirvana were much better. In you opinion mikey, in your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 (edited) In you opinion mikey, in your opinion. It's a fact really. One band changed the face of alternative music. The other produced a couple of derivative but decent albums and then embarked upon a career of peddling middle-of-the-road, parent friendly, family day out, poprock. Is Dave Grohl a more talented musical polymath than Kurt Cobain? Quite certainly. Are Nirvana a million times more important and better than the Foo Fighters? Most definitely. Edited 10 July, 2011 by benjii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 Arctic monkeys are a poor mans Shed 7. Why is this in the Lounge anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 10 July, 2011 It's a fact really. One band changed the face of alternative music. The other produced a couple of derivative but decent albums and then embarked upon a career of peddling middle-of-the-road, parent friendly, family day out, poprock. Is Dave Grohl a more talented musical polymath than Kurt Cobain? Quite certainly. Are Nirvana a million times more important and better than the Foo Fighters? Most definitely. I really couldn't give a toss I'm not a great fan of either but it not a fact, it' an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 Just watched a bit on TV, and The Vaccines were very good. Bruno Mars came on too, now that is someone whose head I could happily stamp into the pavement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 I really couldn't give a toss I'm not a great fan of either but it not a fact, it' an opinion. Nah, its a fact me old cocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 Nirvana were for people who a bit whiny, attention seeking and in need of a good wash, good band but WAY overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 Just watched a bit on TV, and The Vaccines were very good. Bruno Mars came on too, now that is someone whose head I could happily stamp into the pavement. Saw The Vaccines at Glasto. They were a very poor 18th on our list of memorable moments, which, unfortunately rates them about 13 places below the Wombles, and a long way behind The Wombats, 2 Door Cinema Club & Bellowhead and not even on the same planet as Elbow. Arctic Monkeys on the other hand, now there's a band I would like to see, but. from reports I have heard about their current tour, I'd put them behind the Original Monkees reunion tour. Oh and The Zucchinis rip the p1ss out of all of them mentioned for a great show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 Arctic Monkeys will go down in history like many other bands as a one-album band - relistening to the first album reminds you how repetitive it is. It did well because it struck a cultural note and filled a vacuum at the time . They were helped by a breathlessly hyperbolic media like the NME and the small island effect where you can gatecrash the public consciousness (and then be summarily dumped) in the blink of an eye. Thought the 2nd album was more varied and the 3rd was an interesting stab at a different sound but it merely underlined that they shouldn't venture too far out of their comfort zone -hence the safety-first of their 4th album invariably stripped of the brashness and urgency of their breakthrough album. The more you listen to AM, the more you realise that they are bunch of jingly-jangly Northern romantics - the same furrow ploughed by the likes of Morrissey, Shack, Richard Hawley, I Am Kloot etc. Alright if you like that kind of thing and definitely more soulful than Coldplay; but nothing special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Caught it Friday night, LOVED it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Mate of mine got all excited - got told he had to drive someone who was working backstage at T4 - being told he had to park his motor right behind the stage.... not to leave the area in case he had to do some runs to drop people off Then discovered it was the Beach Party one in Weston Super Mare... Still he got to have a coffee, just him all alone, with all of the Sugarbabes As he said, the downside (being a bit older than me) he found the endless stream of Dub & Rap forced him back into his motor to listen to Radio Two for most of the afternoon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Nirvana were for people who a bit whiny, attention seeking and in need of a good wash, good band but WAY overrated. erm, like most indie bands then. I guess people in need of a good wash are those who dont wax and bleach their asshole everyday (like you?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 This music malarkey is all too complicated for this 42 year old. Please can someone list all music that is "good" and all music that is "bad" just so I know what I should and shouldn't be be listening to. It's a good job none of this is down to personal preference otherwise I'd be completely buggered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 This music malarkey is all too complicated for this 42 year old. Please can someone list all music that is "good" and all music that is "bad" just so I know what I should and shouldn't be be listening to. It's a good job none of this is down to personal preference otherwise I'd be completely buggered. Send me a complete list of the CD collection and I'll tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 This music malarkey is all too complicated for this 42 year old. Please can someone list all music that is "good" and all music that is "bad" just so I know what I should and shouldn't be be listening to. It's a good job none of this is down to personal preference otherwise I'd be completely buggered. I wouldn't worry, for the majority of the bands mentioned on this thread it's a list of 'average' and 'average'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 If anyone on here went im sure they will agree, the big 4 at Sonisphere are how you "smash it" live. They were awesome. Oh and btw about Nirvana, AIC are better hth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 If anyone on here went im sure they will agree, the big 4 at Sonisphere are how you "smash it" live. They were awesome. Oh and btw about Nirvana, AIC are better hth. Alice in Chains? Gotta disagree with that a little bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Alice in Chains? Gotta disagree with that a little bit... No album Nirvana made can stand up to dirt. All IMO of course, which ultimatly music is all about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 erm, like most indie bands then. I guess people in need of a good wash are those who dont wax and bleach their asshole everyday (like you?) Normally i jetwash but i like the sound bleaching, do you have a personal recommendation with regards to a brand? PS Everybody knows Soundgarden and Mudhoney were the best bands to come out of grunge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 (edited) My generation has very little to brag about music-wise.course you have. Every decade has its good, bad and indifferent. The 2000's created some tremendous stuff and if we are just looking at guitar bands then current bands like Editors, Kings Of Leon, Kasabian, The Killers, Muse, Snow Patrol, White Stripes etc. shouldn't be underestimated, although that's not necessarily a recommendation. I have to say though that I'm not sure how its possible to argue about which music is better. Its so subjective there is no way of ranking it. I'm a Sultans of Ping fan myself. Check em out. Irish punk band from the 90's. If that's not to your liking (it's not to hardly anyone's liking) give Unkle or Death in Vegas a go or maybe James or Ride, truely fantastic. Edited 11 July, 2011 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Where's me jumper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 This music malarkey is all too complicated for this 42 year old. Please can someone list all music that is "good" and all music that is "bad" just so I know what I should and shouldn't be be listening to. It's a good job none of this is down to personal preference otherwise I'd be completely buggered. Music is simple. You are hip cool trendy and in when you "have a moment". Then if you try and make that moment into a career then you are first mainstream then arrgh Dinner Party. Take Lady Gaga - she (hmm) had a moment at Glastonbury couple of years back and became wow. Heck even my Indie Son & Emo Trash Metal Son loved her. Now - arrgh run away burn the witch, she was on American Idol FFS Wanna know what is right & cool? It's the music you would play if you had a country road to yourself, on a moonlit night, with just you & your stereo playing and no speed cameras or worries about other cars and could just drive and drive and drive to glorious music that you love. Sod being trendy. Oh and the whole being buggered thing at the end - no problem - whole range of choice of music, starting from The Village People through to well loads of cliches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Where's me jumper? in the disco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Where's me jumper? Michiko I love you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 If this was five years ago, I'd have been all over this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 in the disco? Dancing bumper to bumper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Michiko I love you. Give him a ball and a yard of grass. He'll give you a move with a perfect pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 And I quite like you. You are my ice cream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 (edited) Give him a ball and a yard of grass. He'll give you a move with a perfect pass. Give him a ball & a yard of space. He'll give you a move with godly grace. A man can't have no greater love. Than give 9O minutes to his friends. If God meant game to be played up there. He would've put goal posts in the air. I'm off for a pint of razza. Ta ta. Edited 11 July, 2011 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Oh Veronica, mon amie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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