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I am very pleased by the signing, but really, I can almost visualise the strokes as you typed each line.

 

You really should reveal yourself to Cortese, he might offer you a salary for the PR role you've been doing for the club for so long...

 

So true. I am happy about the signing but also nauseated by the inevitable w*nkfest that I knew was coming from Nickg as soon as a signing was made.

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A couple of days ago, NIck didn't actually think that bringing in someone like Cork was necessary. He thought that although we should do what we can to improve, the team was good enough anyway. That makes an orgasm when we do recruit a decent player somewhat excessive. But lets not pretend we've got a PL player. Cork is good Championship standard and is young enough to get better, but he's not at the standard of players we had here 10 or 15 years ago. Nick says he can't remember being so excited by a signing which suggests he must be very young, or wasn't a Saints supporter when we regularly recruited full international players.

 

Cork's signing is excellent news, not just because he's a good player, but also because it shows an intention by the club to deliver on the promise to strengthen, which I for one, was beginning to doubt. I'm now expecting at least one more quality player at CB but with Connolly fit, I'm not convinced we need a striker.

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Andrei Kanchelskis = Turned out to be over the hill and utter ****e, i think he played like 4 games in all for us.

 

Was also really excited when Mark Hughes and Dennis wise signed to-even though they were old at the time

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NickG - no offence but you really are the king of spin and you need to calm down a tad.

He is a good proven Championship player - nothing more nothing less, I think he will be an asset but he aint no obvious world beater (otherwise Leicester would no doubt have bought him) and Stuart Pearce didn't think he was worthy of a kick in the recent U21s tournament.

Let's keep our feet on the ground and hope he will prosper from being at a club on a permanent contract. It will be interesting to see how he develops for sure and I welcome his arrival.

There's a good chance he will improve into a Prem player, but your post is a bit OTT.

 

Correct,imo.

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It's good to see people getting excited.

 

Regarding Kevin Keegan, where would you say he was in most football fans wish lists at the time?

 

Iirc, he was THE best player in Europe and I can't think off the top of my head who was better on the World stage at the time?

 

Who would be todays equiv? Is put him up there with Messi but with a better hair do and a better singer.

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I think Cork is a good player, and I'm very glad we've got him, but it's a bit hysterical to claim him as the new messiah and seemingly the final link in the jigsaw. I think it sums up the antipathy shown by some board members to just how difficult this season is going to be; signing one player like this is not going to turn us into title favourites overnight. If we had done a Cardiff and signed Bellamy, or done a Wet Sham and got Nolan then I'd probably join in with Nick's little w*nkfest; those were/are incredible signings for this division. But as others have said I think we've signed a very solid Championship player, one who could very likely step up to the Premier League and hold his own. But no more than that.

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I think Cork is a good player, and I'm very glad we've got him, but it's a bit hysterical to claim him as the new messiah and seemingly the final link in the jigsaw. I think it sums up the antipathy shown by some board members to just how difficult this season is going to be; signing one player like this is not going to turn us into title favourites overnight. If we had done a Cardiff and signed Bellamy, or done a Wet Sham and got Nolan then I'd probably join in with Nick's little w*nkfest; those were/are incredible signings for this division. But as others have said I think we've signed a very solid Championship player, one who could very likely step up to the Premier League and hold his own. But no more than that.

 

I tend to agree with this viewpoint rather than the ticker-tape brigade.

 

The signing doesn't even warrant a one liner in the Daily Fail this morning.

 

It's a good signing. No more, no less.

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A couple of days ago, NIck didn't actually think that bringing in someone like Cork was necessary. He thought that although we should do what we can to improve, the team was good enough anyway. That makes an orgasm when we do recruit a decent player somewhat excessive. But lets not pretend we've got a PL player. Cork is good Championship standard and is young enough to get better, but he's not at the standard of players we had here 10 or 15 years ago. Nick says he can't remember being so excited by a signing which suggests he must be very young, or wasn't a Saints supporter when we regularly recruited full international players.

 

Cork's signing is excellent news, not just because he's a good player, but also because it shows an intention by the club to deliver on the promise to strengthen, which I for one, was beginning to doubt. I'm now expecting at least one more quality player at CB but with Connolly fit, I'm not convinced we need a striker.

 

remember KK signing, that was miles more exciting.

 

the thread says (think you and hypo missed the point of it) 'since....'

 

I don't think this is on the same spectrum as the Keegan or Shilton etc etc

 

However, and I appreciate others views about Fonte and Lambert, personally think you have to back a while for a signing that shows intent like this.

 

He is not a world famous name, but he is a top CCC player, England U21 and going up. Shows the sort of long term aim of the club and that we can attract players not just with our money (as suspect others with money were in for him) but with our future and team spirit.

 

I know it does not fit in with the gloomy five's (you, hypo, Fitz, alpine, Lard) agenda ;)

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One Burnley fan in particular is upset, infact you could say he is "disgusting"....

 

"minibeast says July 7, 2011 8:31pm

I am a burnley fan and i am disgusting. Burnley are a massivley bigger club than southampton and burnley offer him everything he needs. some good players guaranteed footy. everything. and anyway, southampton were in league1 about 2 months ago and i hope some time he'll come to his senses and change his mind. He only got where he i by playing for Burnley. he played in the premier league and had an amazing season last year but hopefully we can get another good midfielder. he fitted into the squad pefectly and all i can say is hes wrong. come back jack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

 

Taken from SSN website

 

 

seems others would appreciate the premiership quality more

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One Burnley fan in particular is upset, infact you could say he is "disgusting"....

 

"minibeast says July 7, 2011 8:31pm

I am a burnley fan and i am disgusting. Burnley are a massivley bigger club than southampton and burnley offer him everything he needs. some good players guaranteed footy. everything. and anyway, southampton were in league1 about 2 months ago and i hope some time he'll come to his senses and change his mind. He only got where he i by playing for Burnley. he played in the premier league and had an amazing season last year but hopefully we can get another good midfielder. he fitted into the squad pefectly and all i can say is hes wrong. come back jack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

 

Taken from SSN website

 

 

seems others would appreciate the premiership quality more

 

If you're basing your views on the musings of a pre-pubescent teenager then I'm going to start worrying about your state of mind. Cork is a good player; he could be very good. He is not the second coming.

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remember KK signing, that was miles more exciting.

 

the thread says (think you and hypo missed the point of it) 'since....'

 

I don't think this is on the same spectrum as the Keegan or Shilton etc etc

 

However, and I appreciate others views about Fonte and Lambert, personally think you have to back a while for a signing that shows intent like this.

 

He is not a world famous name, but he is a top CCC player, England U21 and going up. Shows the sort of long term aim of the club and that we can attract players not just with our money (as suspect others with money were in for him) but with our future and team spirit.

 

I know it does not fit in with the gloomy five's (you, hypo, Fitz, alpine, Lard) agenda ;)

 

What agenda would that be ? The agenda of applying common sense ?

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I think Cork is a good player, and I'm very glad we've got him, but it's a bit hysterical to claim him as the new messiah and seemingly the final link in the jigsaw. I think it sums up the antipathy shown by some board members to just how difficult this season is going to be; signing one player like this is not going to turn us into title favourites overnight. If we had done a Cardiff and signed Bellamy, or done a Wet Sham and got Nolan then I'd probably join in with Nick's little w*nkfest; those were/are incredible signings for this division. But as others have said I think we've signed a very solid Championship player, one who could very likely step up to the Premier League and hold his own. But no more than that.

 

This. To speak about this signing in the same breath as KK is pure folly. In that era I remember us signing Dave Watson from Werder Bremen (as a Tyro defender my hero at the time) and Saints fans didn't bat an eyelid, the current England centre half and an absolute rock of an international player - it was the most 'normal' thing in the world! Someone mentioned Prutton previously and that is where this signing fits - a young quality addition with bags of potential. I for one think it will come off for Cork at Saints as he's been playing without any stability on loan for years and still doing well (and that shows commitment and character).

 

If Adkins and Cortese set up a press conference at the De Vere in the coming weeks and Messi steps out form behind the curtain I might go deja vu, and come over all unnecessary...

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This. To speak about this signing in the same breath as KK is pure folly. In that era I remember us signing Dave Watson from Werder Bremen (as a Tyro defender my hero at the time) and Saints fans didn't bat an eyelid, the current England centre half and an absolute rock of an international player - it was the most 'normal' thing in the world! Someone mentioned Prutton previously and that is where this signing fits - a young quality addition with bags of potential. I for one think it will come off for Cork at Saints as he's been playing without any stability on loan for years and still doing well (and that shows commitment and character).

 

If Adkins and Cortese set up a press conference at the De Vere in the coming weeks and Messi steps out form behind the curtain I might go deja vu, and come over all unnecessary...

 

so you are saying most exciting since Keegan?! ;)

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This the daftest comment of all.

 

Fonte, Lambert, Barnard, blimey even Rudi Skacel and Kevin Phillips (before he decided to be a c*ck) were more exciting.

 

REally? Amazing

 

from another thread

 

CMS, 27 years, 106 conference appearances, 51 league 2 appearances, 91 league 1 appearances, 43 championship appearances, 0 premiership appearances, 3 mins for scots in friendly

 

Cork, 22 years, 0 conference appearances, 0 league 2 appearances, 7 league 1 appearances, 137 championship appearances, 11 premiership appearances, 14 Eng U19 - Capt, 13 Eng U21

 

can't say Barny is even close for me

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REally? Amazing

 

from another thread

 

CMS, 27 years, 106 conference appearances, 51 league 2 appearances, 91 league 1 appearances, 43 championship appearances, 0 premiership appearances, 3 mins for scots in friendly

 

Cork, 22 years, 0 conference appearances, 0 league 2 appearances, 7 league 1 appearances, 137 championship appearances, 11 premiership appearances, 14 Eng U19 - Capt, 13 Eng U21

 

can't say Barny is even close for me

 

Whatever. I rate Barnard and felt he made some critical performances last season. He was division top-scorer when we bought him.

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That comment was still more anchored in reality (even if some felt it very negative) than your w*nkfest OP here...

 

you realise the reality is that we got went up automatically - three points plus better goal diff behind Brighton? I know you are not the sharpest tool but that is in reality!

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you realise the reality is that we got went up automatically - three points plus better goal diff behind Brighton? I know you are not the sharpest tool but that is in reality!

 

And I made that comment weeks before we finally won automatic promotion (oh, how hindsight is a wonderful thing...), and not many would have predicted us breaking the club record and winning the last 6 in a row.

 

You're the f**king tool around here, pal. Nobody can talk sensibly with you when you are in this Prozac'd-up "I cant hear you, fingers in the ears, la-la-la-la" mood...

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NickG - no offence but you really are the king of spin and you need to calm down a tad.

He is a good proven Championship player - nothing more nothing less, I think he will be an asset but he aint no obvious world beater (otherwise Leicester would no doubt have bought him) and Stuart Pearce didn't think he was worthy of a kick in the recent U21s tournament.

Let's keep our feet on the ground and hope he will prosper from being at a club on a permanent contract. It will be interesting to see how he develops for sure and I welcome his arrival.

There's a good chance he will improve into a Prem player, but your post is a bit OTT.

 

You would have had more credibility if you left out the Pearce bit! I don't know if you saw the England games but the midfield was truly awful and if you were a Liverpool fan like Mike Wilde you'd worry that £16m spent on Henderson was £15m over the odds and Manciene should have never been considered in the DM role.

 

I agree on the hyping though, it's a step forward in building a decent squad that will blossom together, just the odd addition and loss each season will suffice especially when the academy starts in full flow. Also, there seems to be much more to Jack Cork than a good ambitious player, he seems a decent and intelligent bloke too.

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my slow alpine friend,

 

most thought we were on for automatic promotion - with game or two to spare, one usually unrealistic poster thought best not to try, give up and to plan for play offs.

 

if you don't like my positive approach (to what is meant to be enjoyable hobby) don't open my threads or put me on ignore - I am not after your views.

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SNIP You're the f**king tool around here, pal. Nobody can talk sensibly with you SNIP

 

Do you really have to be so offensive Alpine?

 

Anyway, some years ago on a student exchange from SU I watched in a Hamburg bar KK playing in the Euro finals and it was completely beyond anybody's wildest dreams that he should play for Saints.

 

This is not on that scale but for where we are now it is significant. He's the right age, athletic with a bit of pace, and he obviously wants to play football: it's not a Pompey type last pay day. His attitude always playing on loan has been excellent so let's hope the stability of a long contract helps him concentrate on his game and improve even more.

 

If we are going to sign more players in the window then this signing can only help in persuading others to sign.

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Lambert - because we went in and bought clearly the best striker in the division at a time when he didn't appear to be for sale.

 

 

Well, with the acquisition of Barnard a little later, we actually went out and bought the best TWO strikers in the division.

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Lambert - because we went in and bought clearly the best striker in the division at a time when he didn't appear to be for sale.

 

Before that, Crouch, who I'd always rated.

 

not bad shouts, can definitely see argument for Lambert, Fonte, probably before that likes of Philips and Alp's suggestion of Skacel.

 

Few decent players over recent years but not many who came in with reputation.

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if you don't like my positive approach

 

I think what a few are highlighting is that it is possible (in all walks of life, not just on internet football forums) for "positivity" to spill over into "over zealous" or "sycophantic" terriotory, and when it does it can come across as less sincere than more measured positivity.

 

It's a bit like the difference between the English and Americans.

 

By Day 3 of a holiday in Florida a few years back I was ready to lamp the next American that gave me an exagerated "Have a nice day sir" everytime I bought or asked for something.

 

In other words, too much positivity can often come across as artificial.

 

IMHO of course :-)

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It's sad that NickG's enthusiasm is degenerating into abuse as the time he spends searching other websites and posting the results here is to the benefit of the rest of us who don't have as much time to spare. As Suewhistle has shown above, being offensive is bound to generate a like response, so lets hope enthusiasm can be directed into more positive comments, such as Sue's that one good signing can act as an incentive that might encourage any other players we are looking at, to want to come here.

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I remember being excited when Kevin Phillips signed. First time since Keegan I remember us signing a big prem name. Little did I know he would be a misfiring t0sser.

 

I'd say 27 goals in 2 seasons was pretty good considering we got relegated.

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To answer the original question, this is the first signing of a player that I'd actually decided I'd WANT us to sign before we signed him since we were in the Prem - with the exception of the 3 full backs and Barnard and Forte, I basically hadn't heard of any of the others (including Lambert) and it's as pleased as I've been with a signing since Jose Fonte, who was clearly a good signing given his experience, whether I knew who he was at the time or not !

 

Even the last time Cork was playing for us he was outstanding with his effort and drive in a team that looked poor all around him, hopefully in a successful side he'll look even better.

 

Definitely wanted by other teams, definitely our first signing that says "we do have a couple of quid set aside if need be" to me, and my minor worry about Adkins' experience and ability to attract good, known, players has been slightly tempered because Adkins has helped us get him with Cork having played under him before. Very pleased generally.

 

Ironically enough I think I'd have been more delighted if the rumours hadn't been around for so long ! It's up there on a par with Lallana's 4 years deal and Oxlade-Chamberlain staying, but the other two had surprise value as well.

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It's sad that NickG's enthusiasm is degenerating into abuse as the time he spends searching other websites and posting the results here is to the benefit of the rest of us who don't have as much time to spare. As Suewhistle has shown above, being offensive is bound to generate a like response, so lets hope enthusiasm can be directed into more positive comments, such as Sue's that one good signing can act as an incentive that might encourage any other players we are looking at, to want to come here.

 

Indeed, and well said. The aggressive tone in this page to someone being overly-optimistic about a football team is really quite staggering.

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One Burnley fan in particular is upset, infact you could say he is "disgusting"....

 

"minibeast says July 7, 2011 8:31pm

I am a burnley fan and i am disgusting. Burnley are a massivley bigger club than southampton and burnley offer him everything he needs. some good players guaranteed footy. everything. and anyway, southampton were in league1 about 2 months ago and i hope some time he'll come to his senses and change his mind. He only got where he i by playing for Burnley. he played in the premier league and had an amazing season last year but hopefully we can get another good midfielder. he fitted into the squad pefectly and all i can say is hes wrong. come back jack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

 

Taken from SSN website

seems others would appreciate the premiership quality more

 

If he's more than 16 years old, and therefore has any recall of Saints being in the top league for 27 times longer than Burnley over the past 35 years he deserves a kick in the nads for "Burnley are a massivley bigger club than southampton".

 

It's not 1960.

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This the daftest comment of all.

 

Fonte, Lambert, Barnard, blimey even Rudi Skacel and Kevin Phillips (before he decided to be a c*ck) were more exciting.

 

I'm actually more excited by signing Cork than any of them except Phillips.

 

Skacel is the only other one who meets the name, quality and expectation standard of mid-table or above Championship, and that took so bloody long that it was more relief by the time it was done. Fonte was pretty good but we'd had a few decent signings by then to temper the enthusiasm and he was a centre back I only knew Palace fans had said good stuff about, never really expected him to be as good as he has been. Barnard was alright but a lower league striker I vaguely recalled from having been at Spurs ages before, and Lambert I knew nothing about as I didn't watch any League One before we were in it and I didn't really think much of us signing the top scorer in the division, because as far as I was concerned, it was a crap division and we might already have had better players with the club as far as I knew.

 

Ah the naivete of the "big club" fan... :D

 

Agreed that Cork's not in the Keegan class, but he's a good signing with a lot of potential that we're going the right way, signing the kind of players who can make a difference and get us from very good League One team to good Championship one quickly. The fee over (probably) over a million means we've almost certainly got some cash to spend as well.

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FFS, was enjoying reading this thread but it seems its yet another Alpine has descended into his little show. Can't you have your own thread of something to shout at NickG?

 

If he wants to be excited about a signing, let him be excited about it.

 

Plenty of signing in the past, posters weren't allowed to be underwhelmed by a signing. Does the same rule still apply? Seaborne is one for instance...

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Cork for me is a very good signing because of the intent it carries. He is clearly being signed as someone with potential to take us to, and be able to play for and excel with us in the Premiership.

 

Lambert, Fonte, Bernard (Bernard not close for me at all) as others have mentioned were all signings made in the lower league with the intent of getting us another division, and then hopefully help us up another on top of that, but it is unlikely the majority of players you sign in League One will progress enough to be able to be good enough to be regular performers.

 

Therefore for me, the signing of Cork excited me more than any of them, especially as there has been rumours of him signing recently and I was already hoping he would sign. So to re-iterate, my previous most exciting signing is still Prutton, because he carried a similar potential (but failed to deliver it).

 

I also don't get the incessant NickG bashing on this issue. If he wants to be enthusiastic and exited, let him! Signings decent players is one of the most excisting aspects of following a football team.

 

I'd be surprised if Alpine didn't get infracted for him comments, regardless of what NickG or otherwise had said previously. I like Alpine's defence though.....he started it!

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Plenty of signing in the past, posters weren't allowed to be underwhelmed by a signing. Does the same rule still apply? Seaborne is one for instance...

 

Honestly, I couldn't care less if anyone else is excited or not. I am, and everyone else is entitled to their own opinions of it.

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Actually, I've just remembered, this is the most excited I've been since we signed Lallana on a new 4 year deal. That's about the only contract extension I've ever been as excited about as a new signing - because it meant we could afford to keep one of the best players in the division AND that he was committed to getting us out of there.

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I'd be surprised if Alpine didn't get infracted for him comments, regardless of what NickG or otherwise had said previously. I like Alpine's defence though.....he started it!

 

On this occasion he's actually right. NickG did actually slag someone off before Alpine even posted on this thread. Not that anyone should care...

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