the stain Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 There will be a replacement and it will be the most sold sunday paper. The X Factor is one of the most popular TV programmes. The X Factor winner is the biggest selling single of the year, every year. Lady Gaga is the top selling artist so far this year. It doesn't make any of them good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 Without sounding too rude, reading this thread has indeed shown you to be somewhat out of your depth and your notion that "Spin Doctors" started with Blair is just one example of this. I presume you had never heard of Tim Bell. As for Ingham, he is on record about his 11 years as Thatcher's spin doctor (do you remember his briefings against Howe, Pym and Biffen???) and every morning lobby journalists would rock up at Downing St to be briefed and then briefed again later in the day at Westminster. It went to an unhealthy different level. Do we need the likes of Campbell and Coulson in the political process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 It went to an unhealthy different level. Do we need the likes of Campbell and Coulson in the political process? What we need is more conviction politicians like Nigel Farage. He doesn't need spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 The X Factor is one of the most popular TV programmes. The X Factor winner is the biggest selling single of the year, every year. Lady Gaga is the top selling artist so far this year. It doesn't make any of them good. England is the native land of the hypocrites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 What we need is more conviction politicians like Nigel Farage. He doesn't need spin. He needed some spin on the propellor of his plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 What we need is more conviction politicians like Nigel Farage. He doesn't need spin. He does if he ever wants to get his party elected to have any sort of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 He does if he ever wants to get his party elected to have any sort of power. They finnished second in the Barnsley by election ahead of the Conservatives and trebling the Liberal vote. In fact even the BNP got 50% more votes than the Lib Dems. UKIP speaks for a lot of people. And let us not forget their performance in the last European election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 They finnished second in the Barnsley by election ahead of the Conservatives and trebling the Liberal vote. In fact even the BNP got 50% more votes than the Lib Dems. UKIP speaks for a lot of people. And let us not forget their performance in the last European election. They can be quite unpalatable for mainstream politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 (edited) They finnished second in the Barnsley by election ahead of the Conservatives and trebling the Liberal vote. In fact even the BNP got 50% more votes than the Lib Dems. UKIP speaks for a lot of people. And let us not forget their performance in the last European election. Cool. What sort of prize did they get for finishing second in the Barnsley election? They should at least be allowed to repeal a few laws for that sort of an achievement. At the very least they should be allowed to hold the rubber stamp when the Government accept a town planning enquiry. Edited 10 July, 2011 by the stain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 What we need is more conviction politicians like Nigel Farage. He doesn't need spin. I don't think anyone minds conviction politicians of any ilk and most would agree that parliament is screaming out for them. I've no love for the tories or the Goldsmiths but Zac's standpoint regarding NI has been refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 The X Factor is one of the most popular TV programmes. The X Factor winner is the biggest selling single of the year, every year. Lady Gaga is the top selling artist so far this year. It doesn't make any of them good. Taste in music is purely subjective so it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 (edited) I don't think anyone minds conviction politicians of any ilk and most would agree that parliament is screaming out for them. I've no love for the tories or the Goldsmiths but Zac's standpoint regarding NI has been refreshing. You'd probably be surprised to learn my favourite Labour MP is Dennis Skinner. I can't stand slimey idiots like Ed Balls. That smirk of his is not a vote winner despite what he thinks. Edited 10 July, 2011 by dune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 How is ones taste in print journalism not just as subjective? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 How is ones taste in print journalism not just as subjective? You need a brain to read big words. There is no intelligence involved in listening to music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 You need a brain to read big words. There is no intelligence involved in listening to music. Seem to recall one of those awful 'test the nation' programs showed preferred music vs IQ. If I remember correctly there was a vast difference in IQ between the pop dance and country fans and those who listen to rock jazz or classical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Seem to recall one of those awful 'test the nation' programs showed preferred music vs IQ. If I remember correctly there was a vast difference in IQ between the pop dance and country fans and those who listen to rock jazz or classical. Maybe, but you still don't need a brain to listen to music, any music. It's purely down to taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 What we need is more conviction politicians like Nigel Farage. He doesn't need spin. That's not what he was thinking when his propeller stopped doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 You're about 12 hours too slow, DSM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 That's not what he was thinking when his propeller stopped doing it. Which happened because of the UKIP campaign banner it was hauling got caught up in it. The pilot was so entertained by this that he subsequently threatened to kill Farage. There has GOT to be a joke in here somewhere - if it's not there already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 You're about 12 hours too slow, DSM. The rest of us make allowances. It takes that long to get the apron off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Here's a link to an email you could send to your MP http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/speakout/time-to-stand-up-to-murdoch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Here's a link to an email you could send to your MP http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/speakout/time-to-stand-up-to-murdoch Wouldn't it be simpler for people to vote with their feet - i.e. stop buying goods and services from his companies - if they don't like the situation? We don't need state intervention when people have the ultimate sanction available to them. Surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Wouldn't it be simpler for people to vote with their feet - i.e. stop buying goods and services from his companies - if they don't like the situation? We don't need state intervention when people have the ultimate sanction available to them. Surely? State intervention? It's a petition! Remember also that Murdoch's empire both here and in the US has been built on state intervention favouring him and disfavouring his competitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Wouldn't it be simpler for people to vote with their feet - i.e. stop buying goods and services from his companies - if they don't like the situation? We don't need state intervention when people have the ultimate sanction available to them. Surely? This is a far more immediate action. Jeremy Hunt already has over 10,000 submissions to consider re BSkyB, mainly from an on-line petition. Embrace technology, Trousers - it's the modern way In any event, it's a way for those who don't currently use any of his goods and services to register their opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 This is a far more immediate action. Jeremy Hunt already has over 10,000 submissions to consider re BSkyB, mainly from an on-line petition. Embrace technology, Trousers - it's the modern way In any event, it's a way for those who don't currently use any of his goods and services to register their opinions. Me? Modern technology? Nah. Have you seen those modern internet forum thingys? Full of nonsense, the lot of them....best steer clear I say... ;-) But, back to the serious business of News International....I'm still not getting it....aren't those who don't feed the hand of this person/organisation already expressing their opinion? If everyone stops buying stuff from him/them then he/they will go away. Simple problems always have simple solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Me? Modern technology? Nah. Have you seen those modern internet forum thingys? Full of nonsense, the lot of them....best steer clear I say... ;-) But, back to the serious business of News International....I'm still not getting it....aren't those who don't feed the hand of this person/organisation already expressing their opinion? If everyone stops buying stuff from him/them then he/they will go away. Simple problems always have simple solutions. So when you tune in to watch the alternative providers of live premiership football, which channel do you select? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Me? Modern technology? Nah. Have you seen those modern internet forum thingys? Full of nonsense, the lot of them....best steer clear I say... ;-) But, back to the serious business of News International....I'm still not getting it....aren't those who don't feed the hand of this person/organisation already expressing their opinion? If everyone stops buying stuff from him then he/they will go away. Simple problems always have simple solutions. But time is of the essence. The decision re BSkyB is imminent. It will take a fair few weeks for a mass boycott of the Murdoch empire to hit him commercially. You don't address the question of how those who aren't his customers can vent their collective spleen, I notice. Unless, of course, you consider him to be a 'fit and proper person'? (One hopes those making that judgement have more cojones than the FA). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Trousers, allowing the BSkyB bid to go through has serious consequences for competition. It staggers me but doesn't surprise me that this bid wasn't referred to the Competition Commission in the first place. But the bottom line is that Murdoch has built his empire only with the help of politicians, whose cooperation has been secured in a climate of inducement and intimidation. By the same token, they should take it away. For once let the normal rules of competition policy and practice apply to Murdoch Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 You don't address the question of how those who aren't his customers can vent their collective spleen, I notice. I did address that question. I exercise my opinion on his goods and services by not buying them. Always have done, always will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 I did address that question. I exercise my opinion on his goods and services by not buying them. Always have done, always will. With all due respect, that DOESN'T answer the question How are YOU voicing your opinion to Murdoch if you aren't removing your custom, since he never had it anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 (edited) Trousers, allowing the BSkyB bid to go through has serious consequences for competition Competition of what? Ok, I accept I'm entering Devil's Advocate territory here....but I'm not sure how owning a satelite broadcasting company is somehow going to affect the space time continuum. Surely, if people think that Murdoch owning a satelite broadcaster is a bad thing they will look for alternative forms of entertainment? Reading a book, going to watch Southampton Football Club, going to a popular music concert, listening to the radio, watching the BBC, wathcing ITV, having a picnic down by the lake....etc, etc. Why is everyone getting all het up about a television station? Don't like it? Don't watch it. Edited 11 July, 2011 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Competition of what? Ok, I accept I'm entering Devil's Advocate territory here....but I'm not sure how owning a satelite broadcasting company is somehow going to affect the space time contnuum. Surely, if people think that Murdoch owning a satelite broadcaster is a bad thing they will look for alternative forms of entertainment? Reading a book, going to watch Southampton Football Club, going to a popular music concert, listening to the radio, watching the BBC, whathcing ITV, having a picnic down by the lake....etc, etc. Why is everyone getting all het up about a television station? Don't like it? Don't watch it. Because it matters more than God herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 With all due respect, that DOESN'T answer the question How are YOU voicing your opinion to Murdoch if you aren't removing your custom, since he never had it anyway? My opinion is that I don't need to voice my opinion overtly when I'm doing so covertly. Just my opinion of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Competition of what? Ok, I accept I'm entering Devil's Advocate territory here....but I'm not sure how owning a satelite broadcasting company is somehow going to affect the space time continuum. Surely, if people think that Murdoch owning a satelite broadcaster is a bad thing they will look for alternative forms of entertainment? Reading a book, going to watch Southampton Football Club, going to a popular music concert, listening to the radio, watching the BBC, wathcing ITV, having a picnic down by the lake....etc, etc. Why is everyone getting all het up about a television station? Don't like it? Don't watch it. The problem - or one of the far too many to mention - with this is that it is disconnected from the real world. In the latter, we have regulators - and we have regulators because unfettered competition left to its own sordid devices allows bigger players to drive out competition with price cuts and whack prices back up into the stratosphere when the competition has been driven out of business. So unless you want to live in some western equivalent of authoritarian capitalism like China, or a mafia state like Russia, it's probably best to allow regulators to do their job than have them ignored by the Jeremy Hunts of this world and their other hobnobbers in Chipping Norton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 The problem - or one of the far too many to mention - with this is that it is disconnected from the real world. In the latter, we have regulators - and we have regulators because unfettered competition left to its own sordid devices allows bigger players to drive out competition with price cuts and whack prices back up into the stratosphere when the competition has been driven out of business. So unless you want to live in some western equivalent of authoritarian capitalism like China, or a mafia state like Russia, it's probably best to allow regulators to do their job than have them ignored by the Jeremy Hunts of this world and their other hobnobbers in Chipping Norton. No problem with the concept of industry regulators. I thought the ConDems had already handed this one to Ofcom to rule on though? (yes, I know that Ofcom and The Monopolies Commision are different entities with different remits, but, without really knowing how these two organisations are designed to work together, haven't the Government simply played a straight bat on this one? I bow to other's greater knowledge on the matter of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 (edited) No problem with the concept of industry regulators. I thought the ConDems had already handed this one to Ofcom to rule on though? (yes, I know that Ofcom and The Monopolies Commision are different entities with different remits, but, without really knowing how these two organisations are designed to work together, haven't the Government simply played a straight bat on this one? I bow to other's greater knowledge on the matter of course) Hunt does not refer to Ofcom - it alone decides the 'fit and proper person' test and has now belately said that it will and is watching unfolding events closely. Hunt has not to date referred the bid to the Competition Commission. He is under pressure to do so, mostly from Lab and Lib Dems. Vince Cable, who was originally considering the bid and is known to be hostile to it, was removed from the decision-making process some months ago, and the much more compliant Hunt put in the driving seat. So no, the government has done anything but play a straight bat with this. Edited 11 July, 2011 by Verbal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Hunt does not refer to Ofcom - it alone decides the 'fit and proper person' test and has now belately said that it will and is watching unfolding events closely. Hunt has not to date referred the bid to the Competition Commission. He is under pressure to do so, mostly from Lab and Lib Dems. Vince Cable, who was originally considering the bid and is known to be hostile to it, was removed from the decision-making process some months ago, and the much more compliant Hunt put in the driving seat. So no, the government has done anything but play a straight bat with this. Ah, ok....Cheers. (sorry, been away for several days and not really been keeping tabs on the developments) Just to clarify my understanding a little further though....what "monopoly" situation are people concerned about here? Is it that Murdoch will end up with a too greater % of the 'non-terrestrial' market or too much of the 'TV broadcasting sector' as a whole? And, what % would he end up of each (non-terrestrial vs whole TV broadcasting sector) if he was allowed to proceed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Ah, ok....Cheers. (sorry, been away for several days and not really been keeping tabs on the developments) Just to clarify my understanding a little further though....what "monopoly" situation are people concerned about here? Is it that Murdoch will end up with a too greater % of the 'non-terrestrial' market or too much of the 'TV broadcasting sector' as a whole? And, what % would he end up of each (non-terrestrial vs whole TV broadcasting sector) if he was allowed to proceed? The monopolies question has as much to do with his ability to outbid any rivals, terrestrial or non-terrestrial, for rights to movies and sports in particular. Given that he's already been able to do that with a 39% holding in BSkyB, monopolising football in particular, it seems a fair question to ask whether his having 100% of the company is in the interests of competition. (The answer is no, by the way, should you be wondering). Of course, part of his modus operandum is to assault everyone who gets in his way. Hence James Murdoch's persistent attacks on the BBC, through speeches like the last one in Edinburgh TV festival, and through his newspapers, which keep up a constant drip-feed of anti-BBC rhetoric. In Murdochworld, all the components work towards a single common end - by hook or by crook, putting his empire into a position where they are the last man standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 Wouldn't it be simpler for people to vote with their feet - i.e. stop buying goods and services from his companies - if they don't like the situation? We don't need state intervention when people have the ultimate sanction available to them. Surely? Spot on. Dont buy The Sun, The Times, have a sky subscription, go and watch 20th Century Fox films. That's too much for the hypocrites, complain about Murdoch and rally against his evil empire, whilst buying his goods. Steve Coogan was ranting and raving on Newsnight and yet when it comes to starring in "Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian" for 20th Century Fox, well that's quite a different matter. Email your MP, you'll be able to tell your friends about the brave fight you've put up against the Murdoch's.You would have done your bit, and still be able to watch Premiership football from the comfort of your living room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 1547: A BBC investigation has found the Sunday Times, also owned by News International, is alleged to have targeted the personal information of former Prime Minister Gordon Brown at the time he was Chancellor. Documents and a phone recording suggest so called "blagging" was used to obtain private financial and property details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/11/news-of-the-world-crossword tee hee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 How come there is only one Monopolies Commission? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 what this proves if nothing else is just how corrupt British media is (printed variety) lets not stop at just NOTW, the sun, mirror et al can all do one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 1547: A BBC investigation has found the Sunday Times, also owned by News International, is alleged to have targeted the personal information of former Prime Minister Gordon Brown at the time he was Chancellor. Documents and a phone recording suggest so called "blagging" was used to obtain private financial and property details. Barry the Briefcase.... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/11/news-of-the-world-crossword tee hee! This is excellent - Love the clue "woman stares wildly at calamity" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 A possible explanation for why this story wasn't properly investigated last time. http://www.nickdavies.net/1997/01/01/freemasons-in-the-police/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 I have been thinking about this today... One of the points raised by a number of posters relating to the popularity of the NotW is that they are only satisfying a demand, and that the British public are partly to blame for the phone-hacking scandal due to our thirst for gossip, and this has got me thinking... Is this really the case? Or is it more like a self-fulfilling prophecy - in that they tell us what we want to read and eventually people accept that this is normal and enters popular culture? Think about it... Will anybody on here who ever bought the NotW admit that they only bought it because they wanted their fill of juicy celebrity gossip? That certainly isn't the impression I get. Based on the posts I have seen recently, most people only ever bought it for their excellent sports coverage. I am reminded of the furore surrounding the culture of the paparazzi in the wake of the death of princess Diana in 1997, and how they desperately tried to justify their existence with the line that "pictures sell papers". Well I can honestly say I have never bought a newspaper based solely on the picture printed on the front and I expect most, if not all, will agree. I guess my point is that the media like to tell us what we, the British public, want. But is what we actually want often completely different from their own deluded ideas? And do they subconsciously have a hold over the popular culture by constantly repeating the same ethos until we accept it as part of modern life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 July, 2011 Share Posted 11 July, 2011 I have been thinking about this today... One of the points raised by a number of posters relating to the popularity of the NotW is that they are only satisfying a demand, and that the British public are partly to blame for the phone-hacking scandal due to our thirst for gossip, and this has got me thinking... Is this really the case? Or is it more like a self-fulfilling prophecy - in that they tell us what we want to read and eventually people accept that this is normal and enters popular culture? Think about it... Will anybody on here who ever bought the NotW admit that they only bought it because they wanted their fill of juicy celebrity gossip? That certainly isn't the impression I get. Based on the posts I have seen recently, most people only ever bought it for their excellent sports coverage. I am reminded of the furore surrounding the culture of the paparazzi in the wake of the death of princess Diana in 1997, and how they desperately tried to justify their existence with the line that "pictures sell papers". Well I can honestly say I have never bought a newspaper based solely on the picture printed on the front and I expect most, if not all, will agree. I guess my point is that the media like to tell us what we, the British public, want. But is what we actually want often completely different from their own deluded ideas? And do they subconsciously have a hold over the popular culture by constantly repeating the same ethos until we accept it as part of modern life? It's a great question Bexy. I've been very "cynical" about this for some time. Jeez. back in 93 I left home and came to this weird place with censored media and no Sky or Beeb in those days. It was almost 6 months before I came back home. I went to the pub and the lads wanted to know what this place was like so I told the tales. They then started to ask me questions - what did I think about Charles & Diana? They mentioned celebs I had not heard about. It seemed weird - we actually had a falling out about it. Over the years on my trips home I noticed a couple of really weird traits about "Brits" that I honestly never noticed before. First of all many (hell most) conversations seemed to be about "other people", there is a fascination for Gossip. Very few ladies talked about what they were doing in their lives but talked about "other people". It was really weird going to the pub and being asked for my opinion about what some (celeb I had never heard of) was doing. I had a real row one night when I said who the feck is Jordan and why the feck are you all talking about HER? What about YOU? what have you done these past 6 months. Is it that the Brits have become SO obseesed with Celebs? Has the Nation really become E! focused? Who caused this? Big Brother? Was it's success because society in UK were only worried about what other people were doing to the extent that they stopped having their own lives? Was it because life in UK was so dull people needed an escape? OR was it the media that fed that sea change in society in the past 18 years? Could anyone imagine what life could have been like if you had NOT worried about who was snorting Coke or ****ging someone & you got headlines about "News"? Well the simple answer is - there would be no papers as nobody would read them Whatever it is, the "Public" wanted gossip, the media gave it by whatever means they felt necessary. I've posted before that the scandal says a great deal about society in general. I got pasted by many for that. But if some good comes out of this then the media will change, impose the existing laws, jail the wrong doers. What they shouldn't do is gag the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 12 July, 2011 Share Posted 12 July, 2011 It's a great question Bexy. I've been very "cynical" about this for some time. Jeez. back in 93 I left home and came to this weird place with censored media and no Sky or Beeb in those days. It was almost 6 months before I came back home. I went to the pub and the lads wanted to know what this place was like so I told the tales. They then started to ask me questions - what did I think about Charles & Diana? They mentioned celebs I had not heard about. It seemed weird - we actually had a falling out about it. Over the years on my trips home I noticed a couple of really weird traits about "Brits" that I honestly never noticed before. First of all many (hell most) conversations seemed to be about "other people", there is a fascination for Gossip. Very few ladies talked about what they were doing in their lives but talked about "other people". It was really weird going to the pub and being asked for my opinion about what some (celeb I had never heard of) was doing. I had a real row one night when I said who the feck is Jordan and why the feck are you all talking about HER? What about YOU? what have you done these past 6 months. Is it that the Brits have become SO obseesed with Celebs? Has the Nation really become E! focused? I had never heard of Tiger Woods until i met you Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 12 July, 2011 Share Posted 12 July, 2011 I "pictures sell papers". Well I can honestly say I have never bought a newspaper based solely on the picture printed on the front and I expect most, if not all, will agree. That's complete nonsense, there is a reason why papers pay good money for the best pics. If it wasn't cost effective they wouldn't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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