pedg Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 You keep thinking that, but Murdoch KNOWS differently and that is why he has built up his empire so succesfully - he is in tune with the public mood. That said maybe he's losing that instinct a bit by keeping the ginger bint on. BTW is she a real ginger? I'm sure I saw brown roots. Oh yes he really is on the ball is Murdoch. Remind me exactly how much he lost by buying Myspace? Anyway his main ability appears to be to see which way the ball is rolling, jump on the bandwagon showing no loyalty to who he may have supported before and then claim he was solely responsible for them winning.
dune Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 Oh yes he really is on the ball is Murdoch. Remind me exactly how much he lost by buying Myspace? I think the term you're looking for is "a drop in the ocean" when put alongside his other dealings.
pedg Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 I think the term you're looking for is "a drop in the ocean" when put alongside his other dealings. CNN reported that Myspace sold for $35 million, and noted that it was "far less than the $580 million News Corp. paid for Myspace in 2005."[65] So over half a billion dollars is a drop in the ocean???
dune Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 CNN reported that Myspace sold for $35 million, and noted that it was "far less than the $580 million News Corp. paid for Myspace in 2005."[65] So over half a billion dollars is a drop in the ocean??? In the grand scheme of things.
pedg Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 In the grand scheme of things. What ********. Or do you mean he could not use myspace to pervert normal democratic governments so it would have been of little use to his agenda?
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 I'm nipping into town to buy 2 copies. One to read and one to keep in pristine condition as a momento of a great British institution. Good idea, I never seem to have enough toilet paper either.
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 Good. The NOWT was a brilliant paper for sport (as is the sun). Most people would be lost without a replacement. They could just read the Mr. Men books; they're about the same reading age.
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 Those gloating abiut the innocent and talented NOTW journos losing their jobs because they print the unemployed get free hiuses and £50k in benefits.... When did the NOTW ever say that or anything close to that? Your confusing the NOTW with the Mail/ Exp (who to be fair always source and interview the claims), but then you probably don't read it but still have an opinion on it eh? Personally I love the fact it will sell 4.5m copies today (4.1m more than the Observer today and 4m more than the guardian tomorrow). This proves how thick people are in this country. If you're conservative in your views then why not read The Times or the The Telegraph? Newspapers with a reading age of TEN YEARS OLD such as The Sun and NOTW (which is thankfully off the shelves as of tomorrow) should be curtailed. Today heralds the second nail in the coffin of "Operation Dumbing Down" of British society: the first being the axing of Big Brother. As soon as we get rid of The Sun/The Mirror type newspapers and TV shows such as X Factor this country will be much better off.
dune Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 They could just read the Mr. Men books; they're about the same reading age. If you were a Mr Men character who would you be and why? I'm thinking Mr Perfect.
pedg Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 If you were a Mr Men character who would you be and why? I'm thinking Mr Perfect. I think that's a direct quote from the Mr Deluded book.
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 If you were a Mr Men character who would you be and why? I'm thinking Mr Perfect. I'm assuming you would be Mr. Bump? Blue and stupid.
dune Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 This proves how thick people are in this country. If you're conservative in your views then why not read The Times or the The Telegraph? Newspapers with a reading age of TEN YEARS OLD such as The Sun and NOTW (which is thankfully off the shelves as of tomorrow) should be curtailed. That's a rather totalitarian view. You yet again you show your true colours.
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 That's a rather totalitarian view. You yet again you show your true colours. That is rather rich isn't it Stanley? I simply want this country to stop aspiring to be what The Sun/Now On The Welfare etc proclaim to be desirable in their rags. Adults shoud not be reading text with a reading age of TEN! It's not even secondary school level for christ sake. Thick paper for a thick readership.
dune Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 That is rather rich isn't it Stanley? I simply want this country to stop aspiring to be what The Sun/Now On The Welfare etc proclaim to be desirable in their rags. Adults shoud not be reading text with a reading age of TEN! It's not even secondary school level for christ sake. Thick paper for a thick readership. You make me laugh when you throw a tantrum. You're one of the best posters on here IMO. Funny as f/ck.
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 You make me laugh when you throw a tantrum. You're one of the best posters on here IMO. Funny as f/ck. There it is ladies and gentlemen. He loses an argument, and changes the subject. You're the greatest advert the left wing ever had.
dune Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 There it is ladies and gentlemen. He loses an argument, and changes the subject. You're the greatest advert the left wing ever had. I think you'll find I won the argument. You called for totalitarian control of the press. You want freedom of expression curtailed (unless of course it's in tune with your beliefs). I pointed this out and it is a perfect example Liberal Elitism. People like you like to come across all democratic, but every so often you forget yourselves. And if there is any doubt that I won the argument the fact you bit speaks volumes.
the stain Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 dune, you are very good for the left wing. I've shown your posts to some of my right wing chums and they are embarrassed by you. Please don't take this post as a reason to stop, though. You are an excellent servant for the Liberal Elite cause.
Jonnyboy Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 I'll have you know i'm one of the most serious highbrow posters on here! My biggest concern with the passing of the NOWT to be replaced by The Sun on Sunday is that the mondays edition of The Sun (great for footie write ups) will be a carbon copy of Sundays edition. The passing of the NOWT is a real loss and I only hope that a new brand is launched separate from the Sun. The fuddy duddy Guardian reader types can all gloat but what cannot be disputed is that both papers we No. 1 when it came to sales. Both papers delivered what people wanted. What is this News Of World The?
Jonnyboy Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 I think you'll find I won the argument. You called for totalitarian control of the press. You want freedom of expression curtailed (unless of course it's in tune with your beliefs). I pointed this out and it is a perfect example Liberal Elitism. People like you like to come across all democratic, but every so often you forget yourselves. And if there is any doubt that I won the argument the fact you bit speaks volumes. Wanting to improve literacy rates does not equal totalitarian control. We already have porn mags and celebrity gossip mags. We don't need The Sun which uses these elements to lure readership and then feed their prejudices and ignorance to win votes for Murdoch's favoured party of the time. The final NOTW headline should have read: "Sorry and goodbye" - they couldnt even bow out gracefully.
JackanorySFC Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 This proves how thick people are in this country. If you're conservative in your views then why not read The Times or the The Telegraph? Newspapers with a reading age of TEN YEARS OLD such as The Sun and NOTW (which is thankfully off the shelves as of tomorrow) should be curtailed. T Today heralds the second nail in the coffin of "Operation Dumbing Down" of British society: the first being the axing of Big Brother. As soon as we get rid of The Sun/The Mirror type newspapers and TV shows such as X Factor this country will be much better off. Sorry but your factually incorrect there. The News of the World is read by 2.5m ABC1's, more than any other paper except the Mail on Sunday. It is read by more ABC1's than the times, independent, guardian and express combined. Before you make sweeping statements about people you know nothing about, that read a newspaper you clearly know nothing about, I suggest you do some research. Oh, and I also read the times, nothing wrong with 2 papers, times great for world news and opinion but nothing touches the sun/ NOTW for sport - maybe the game (times Monday football supp) but for championship/ L1 coverage no one touches sun/ notw. Not that you know as you clearly don't read them - poor you.
Jonnyboy Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 Sorry but your factually incorrect there. The News of the World is read by 2.5m ABC1's, more than any other paper except the Mail on Sunday. It is read by more ABC1's than the times, independent, guardian and express combined. Before you make sweeping statements about people you know nothing about, that read a newspaper you clearly know nothing about, I suggest you do some research. Oh, and I also read the times, nothing wrong with 2 papers, times great for world news and opinion but nothing touches the sun/ NOTW for sport - maybe the game (times Monday football supp) but for championship/ L1 coverage no one touches sun/ notw. Not that you know as you clearly don't read them - poor you. Don't be like dune and try to steer the argument to football coverage. That has nothing to do with it.
JackanorySFC Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 Wanting to improve literacy rates does not equal totalitarian control. We already have porn mags and celebrity gossip mags. We don't need The Sun which uses these elements to lure readership and then feed their prejudices and ignorance to win votes for Murdoch's favoured party of the time. The final NOTW headline should have read: "Sorry and goodbye" - they couldnt even bow out gracefully. I bet your gutted every shop as of 1pm in west end/ hedge end has sold out of NOTW's but still has stacks of observers/ independents left! British public are boycotting the boycott, clearly a massive Market for a sun on Sunday - can't wait! Stay bitter fella
JackanorySFC Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 Don't be like dune and try to steer the argument to football coverage. That has nothing to do with it. Do you agree with homophobe thorpe that the news of the world is read by stupid people or do you reluctantly bow to the facts provided by the independent national readership survey's monthly demographic results?
Jonnyboy Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 I bet your gutted every shop as of 1pm in west end/ hedge end has sold out of NOTW's but still has stacks of observers/ independents left! British public are boycotting the boycott, clearly a massive Market for a sun on Sunday - can't wait! Stay bitter fella I don't care but I expect Milly Dowler's family aren't exactly happy today. Still you'll be happy so long as your bankers and media buddies are wooing you with fine champagne made off the suffering of dead soldier's families.
Jonnyboy Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 Do you agree with homophobe thorpe that the news of the world is read by stupid people or do you reluctantly bow to the facts provided by the independent national readership survey's monthly demographic results? 1 in 6 British people can't read, that is a shameful statistic
SuperMikey Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 Do you agree with homophobe thorpe that the news of the world is read by stupid people or do you reluctantly bow to the facts provided by the independent national readership survey's monthly demographic results? Those stats don't account for the number of newspaper-buying stupid people in the UK.
Thedelldays Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 I don't care but I expect Milly Dowler's family aren't exactly happy today. Still you'll be happy so long as your bankers and media buddies are wooing you with fine champagne made off the suffering of dead soldier's families. christ..... do you think all this has only been going on at the NOTW..? or do you think there is a chance at some point in recent years other papers have been at it i will never forget the good old daily mirror and them faking photos to fabricate a story about UK troops......and they are the working man paper
Jonnyboy Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 christ..... do you think all this has only been going on at the NOTW..? or do you think there is a chance at some point in recent years other papers have been at it i will never forget the good old daily mirror and them faking photos to fabricate a story about UK troops......and they are the working man paper I think, and hope, the truth will come out soon. I still believe that many journalists have integrity and aren't total cvnts. I approve of investigative journalism which holds people in power to account. I think Piers Morgan is slimey scum (although he at least he resigned when shown to be wrong)
JackanorySFC Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 Those stats don't account for the number of newspaper-buying stupid people in the UK. So ABC1's are stupid people are they? Or is it the typical "liberal" view of "anyone that eats different food, reads a different newspaper, does a certain job, votes for a certain party that I do t like do so because theyre thick". I've noticed a large bitterness/ nastyness from "liberals" recently?
bridge too far Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 So ABC1's are stupid people are they? Or is it the typical "liberal" view of "anyone that eats different food, reads a different newspaper, does a certain job, votes for a certain party that I do t like do so because theyre thick". I've noticed a large bitterness/ nastyness from "liberals" recently? I think Dune was the one who opined that NOTW readers were 'thick'.
JackanorySFC Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 I don't care but I expect Milly Dowler's family aren't exactly happy today. Still you'll be happy so long as your bankers and media buddies are wooing you with fine champagne made off the suffering of dead soldier's families. Actually suffering from a severe hangover brought on by a night if grey goose and bolly paid for by bankers and Murdoch at ken roof gardens last night, oh well... I think the hacking of millys phone was disgusting, as for the soldiers - hey I'm not in the armed forces, maybe someone that is can confirm this or put me in my place - but I think news ints papers have done more to support/ promote the hard job and lack of funding that our forces put up with all over the world, than any other media group?
JackanorySFC Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 I think Dune was the one who opined that NOTW readers were 'thick'. I was responding to a post where Thorpe said "this proves how thick newspaper buyers in this country are". Sorry if that was t clear. Also, if Dune did say that then I'm sorry but he's wrong, 2.5m ABC1's are a fact.
Sheaf Saint Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 Actually suffering from a severe hangover brought on by a night if grey goose and bolly paid for by bankers and Murdoch at ken roof gardens last night, oh well... I think the hacking of millys phone was disgusting, as for the soldiers - hey I'm not in the armed forces, maybe someone that is can confirm this or put me in my place - but I think news ints papers have done more to support/ promote the hard job and lack of funding that our forces put up with all over the world, than any other media group? Yeah, so you'd think they would show a little bit more f***ing respect to those who laid down their lives for their country. Just because they have championed the cause of the military in the past doesn't in any way justify the depths they plumbed to in this instance.
Jonnyboy Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 Actually suffering from a severe hangover brought on by a night if grey goose and bolly paid for by bankers and Murdoch at ken roof gardens last night, oh well... I think the hacking of millys phone was disgusting, as for the soldiers - hey I'm not in the armed forces, maybe someone that is can confirm this or put me in my place - but I think news ints papers have done more to support/ promote the hard job and lack of funding that our forces put up with all over the world, than any other media group? Then doesnt the hypocrisy of it all seem even worse to you?
dune Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 I was responding to a post where Thorpe said "this proves how thick newspaper buyers in this country are". Sorry if that was t clear. Also, if Dune did say that then I'm sorry but he's wrong, 2.5m ABC1's are a fact. I didn't say anything of the sort.
solentstars Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 That is rather rich isn't it Stanley? I simply want this country to stop aspiring to be what The Sun/Now On The Welfare etc proclaim to be desirable in their rags. Adults shoud not be reading text with a reading age of TEN! It's not even secondary school level for christ sake. Thick paper for a thick readership. sorry has someone who is liberal and independant for once i agree with dune i read the quality papers and the sun,now which has the highest ab1 readership in the uk along with the mirror titles and enjoy all types of viewsetc, i personally find the mail and sunday mail offensive and its appeal to the angry people who feel left behind and yearn for the 19 30s and 1950,s ideas of Briton and hate anything progressive and modern in society.
View From The Top Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 I think the hacking of millys phone was disgusting, as for the soldiers - hey I'm not in the armed forces, maybe someone that is can confirm this or put me in my place - but I think news ints papers have done more to support/ promote the hard job and lack of funding that our forces put up with all over the world, than any other media group? So saying what a great job they are doing with meagre resources justifies hacking into the voicemail of those so recently bereaved? That is a totally and utterly pathetic position to take. Parents, wives, kin of the fallen should be protected come what may, they should not have their grief invaded just to sell newspapers. Simple, undeniable fact is that for a number of years they were our of control that the paper, as it is today, has been sacrificed to save Brooks and NI bid for Sky.
pedg Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 sorry has someone who is liberal and independant for once i agree with dune i read the quality papers and the sun,now which has the highest ab1 readership in the uk along with the mirror titles and enjoy all types of viewsetc, i personally find the mail and sunday mail offensive and its appeal to the angry people who feel left behind and yearn for the 19 30s and 1950,s ideas of Briton and hate anything progressive and modern in society. In my opinion saying the sun is better than the mail is like saying you find the taste of rotten veg better than rotten fish.
dune Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 So ABC1's are stupid people are they? Or is it the typical "liberal" view of "anyone that eats different food, reads a different newspaper, does a certain job, votes for a certain party that I do t like do so because theyre thick". I've noticed a large bitterness/ nastyness from "liberals" recently? They regularly show their true colours. They are all for freedom and democracy so long as it's on their terms. Socialism as an ideology is akin to communism - a nanny state ideology whose subscribers think they are superior and it's their moral right to dictate to others. This is why at the heart of Socialism is high taxation. Taking money from people because they do not believe in lesser mortals having the right to determine their own destiny. Capitalism on the other hand is all about freedom and letting people live their own lives as they choose.
View From The Top Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 sorry has someone who is liberal and independant for once i agree with dune i read the quality papers and the sun,now which has the highest ab1 readership in the uk along with the mirror titles and enjoy all types of viewsetc, i personally find the mail and sunday mail offensive and its appeal to the angry people who feel left behind and yearn for the 19 30s and 1950,s ideas of Briton and hate anything progressive and modern in society. 1/2 of my team read the NOTW & Sun for the sport and they are all ABC1s Personally I think The Times sports coverage knocks the spots of them. However, Thorpe is correct, the language of both the NOTW and The Sun is that expected of a 10yo. The Star readership ability is 8yo
dune Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 1/2 of my team read the NOTW & Sun for the sport and they are all ABC1s Personally I think The Times sports coverage knocks the spots of them. However, Thorpe is correct, the language of both the NOTW and The Sun is that expected of a 10yo. The Star readership ability is 8yo TBF you don't buy The Star for what's written in it.
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 This proves how thick people are in this country. If you're conservative in your views then why not read The Times or the The Telegraph? Newspapers with a reading age of TEN YEARS OLD such as The Sun and NOTW (which is thankfully off the shelves as of tomorrow) should be curtailed. Today heralds the second nail in the coffin of "Operation Dumbing Down" of British society: the first being the axing of Big Brother. As soon as we get rid of The Sun/The Mirror type newspapers and TV shows such as X Factor this country will be much better off. Sadly you are highlighting your intellectual short comings. Firstly with your visionary censorship plans (who decides what we can read and watch? You and Polly Toynbee) and secondly by suggesting NOTW readers are all stupid. Do you really think that an interest in which celebrity is screwing who is limited to certain lower end demographics? The NOTW overstepped the mark but Captain Cash improved a lot of people's lives.
View From The Top Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 They regularly show their true colours. They are all for freedom and democracy so long as it's on their terms. Socialism as an ideology is akin to communism - a nanny state ideology whose subscribers think they are superior and it's their moral right to dictate to others. This is why at the heart of Socialism is high taxation. Taking money from people because they do not believe in lesser mortals having the right to determine their own destiny. Capitalism on the other hand is all about freedom and letting people live their own lives as they choose. Ummm. No, it's not. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/capitalism An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.
Verbal Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 Capitalism on the other hand is all about freedom and letting people live their own lives as they choose. Capitalism is nothing of the sort. What you've just described is liberalism (get to know your JS Mill). Welcome to the liberal elite!
bridge too far Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 Sadly you are highlighting your intellectual short comings. Firstly with your visionary censorship plans (who decides what we can read and watch? You and Polly Toynbee) and secondly by suggesting NOTW readers are all stupid. Do you really think that an interest in which celebrity is screwing who is limited to certain lower end demographics? The NOTW overstepped the mark but Captain Cash improved a lot of people's lives. Poor old Polly - what's she done to upset the raving right? She'd be the first person to argue for freedom of the press FFS. There's a big difference between Freedom of the Press and using illegal means to collect 'evidence'.
dune Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 She'd be the first person to argue for freedom of the press FFS. In that case her biggest critic on his must be Thorpe Le Saint.
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 Poor old Polly - what's she done to upset the raving right? She'd be the first person to argue for freedom of the press FFS. There's a big difference between Freedom of the Press and using illegal means to collect 'evidence'. Its her Tuscany Villa! Nothing worse than a gravel drive socialist.
dune Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 Capitalism is nothing of the sort. What you've just described is liberalism (get to know your JS Mill). Welcome to the liberal elite!
View From The Top Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 Its her Tuscany Villa! Nothing worse than a gravel drive socialist. How very strange. Are you suggesting that if you are left wing you should live in poverty?
View From The Top Posted 10 July, 2011 Posted 10 July, 2011 standard but rather sad attempt at trying not to be wrong via youtube Using a youtube video doesn't make your posting any less wrong. Quite simply you confuse capitalism with classic liberalism.
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