Saintandy666 Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 If it can be proven that Coulson divulged this to Cameron... I don't how it is possible he didn't. Whether it can be actually proven though is a different matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 19 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 19 July, 2011 There is a rumour doing the rounds that Cameron has been summoned to appear before the 1922 Committee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 There is a rumour doing the rounds that Cameron has been summoned to appear before the 1922 Committee! Tomorrow. Osborne was going to stand in and was told that they wanted to talk to the PM and no one else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 There is a rumour doing the rounds that Cameron has been summoned to appear before the 1922 Committee! Wow, this could be big. And a lot of the Tory party would do anything to rid themselves of him. They only went along with it all to gain power and he couldn't really even do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 19 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 19 July, 2011 The 1922 Committee has an 18-member executive committee, the chairman of which must oversee any election of a new party leader, or any vote of confidence in respect of the current one; such a vote can be triggered by 15 percent of Conservative MPs writing a letter to the chairman asking for such a vote. This process was invoked most recently on 28 October 2003, when 25 MPs requested a vote of confidence in party leader Iain Duncan Smith by writing to the chairman, Sir Michael Spicer. Duncan Smith lost the vote the next day from dear old Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1922_Committee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 How remarkable that "Britain" can come out of the Culture Select Committee today worse off than the Murdochs! Extraordinary stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 I bet Brooksie is great in bed eh boys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 I bet Brooksie is great in bed eh boys? I don't find her remotely attractive. I bet Louise Mensch enjoys a good smashing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 I don't find her remotely attractive. I bet Louise Mensch enjoys a good smashing though. Nah, how do you think Brooks got to the top? Also is Murdoch's bouncer wife a Thai bride? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 billybragg Billy Bragg On the worse day in News Corp history Jonnie Marbles has given The Sun and Fox News the chance to make Rupert Murdoch look like the victim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 Wow, this could be big. And a lot of the Tory party would do anything to rid themselves of him. They only went along with it all to gain power and he couldn't really even do that. I don't really see this as being big news, and I doubt anything will come of it. The Conservative Party understands better than any other party that it's reason for existing is to be in power and the 1922 committee or the party as a whole will do nothing to jeopardise that. The only way Cameron will be under threat is if he is seen as a liability - he's not that just yet. Of course if anyone finds any dodgy dealings by Coulson whilst he was in the tories pay then that might change...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 How remarkable that "Britain" can come out of the Culture Select Committee today worse off than the Murdochs! Extraordinary stuff. Sorry to say that most of the questioners came across as opiniated amateurs. They were up against US Corporate trained attack dogs who had been thoroughly briefed by teams of lawyers. Who the hell was the idiot before Mensch almost begging Junior to answer his "assumptions" and thus destroy the Police Investigation? Questioning by Committee, a lot of them ended up looking like a Parish Council, it was poor. The Murdoch Empire was there for the taking but not ONE of them seemed to understand that to attack a US Corporate then you have to attack PROCESSES, things like Budget Approval Levels, Management Decision making. Of course Murdoch got away with "being evasive" none of the numpties asked the right questions. Still in another two days or so it will all be forgotten as the Tsunami rumbles on. Oh and wonder if Gordon will sleep well tonight after that short and dignified riposte by Rupert? We all know Cameron sure won't and that's for different reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 Nah, how do you think Brooks got to the top? Also is Murdoch's bouncer wife a Thai bride? 1. Hell of a right hook 2. How the hell could she react before "security" Lol gotta love a feisty woman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 19 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 19 July, 2011 I don't really see this as being big news, and I doubt anything will come of it. The Conservative Party understands better than any other party that it's reason for existing is to be in power and the 1922 committee or the party as a whole will do nothing to jeopardise that. The only way Cameron will be under threat is if he is seen as a liability - he's not that just yet. Of course if anyone finds any dodgy dealings by Coulson whilst he was in the tories pay then that might change...... However, the 1922 Committee is on the right of the Tory party. And they don't like Cameron very much as it is. And then, of course, there was his challenge last year: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/may/19/david-cameron-backbench-committee-reform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 19 July, 2011 Share Posted 19 July, 2011 Rupert's synopsis of his relationship with GB makes Cameron look like a mere outsider to News Corp. Brooks backed it up saying she met labour PMs far more often than the current administration and offered dates to the labour MP asking the question detailing her visits..... It wasn't followed up. Have to say thought she performed far better than I thought she would! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 Tom Bradby, last night on ITN News, actually said that Cameron, was complicit in a cover-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 1. Hell of a right hook 2. How the hell could she react before "security" Lol gotta love a feisty woman! Fair play to her, someone wants to attack her money....ooops sorry! man, then they gotta go past her. That numpty with the shaving foam, the funniest moment in what's becoming a farce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 Rupert's synopsis of his relationship with GB makes Cameron look like a mere outsider to News Corp. Brooks backed it up saying she met labour PMs far more often than the current administration and offered dates to the labour MP asking the question detailing her visits..... It wasn't followed up. Have to say thought she performed far better than I thought she would! Sounds to me like a pre planned response designed to take the heat off themselves and off Cameron.......remind me, why did Murdoch have to nip round the back of number 10 when visiting? What did he have to say to Cameron? Now let me think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 (edited) The BBC are so full of themselves that Nick Robinson is a cock and like a lot of reporters he twists words in such a way as to sensationalise or make new stories. he used the word may in one sentence he used to describe comments made by brooks and then in the next instance changed the whole prose to has and thus putting a total different spin on Rebekkah Brooks testimony. Edited 20 July, 2011 by Viking Warrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 20 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 20 July, 2011 http://news.scotsman.com/politics/John-McTernan-Loyalty-to-Coulson.6804185.jp?articlepage=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 Cameron is tainted now, surely he'll just be a joke if he stays on? I do find it quite funny that Piers Morgan might get dragged into the whole mess, it would make my day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 Decent opening speech from Cameron IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 Weak response from Miliband IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 Weak response from Miliband IMHO Sky New's rolling poll has moved 5 points towards Cameron during the proceedings. It's now showing 53% in his favour, whereas at the start of the day it was 48%. It's only a snap shot and a small sample of the public, but I thought Labour misjudged it today. Last night's Newsnight had Carl Bernstein on live from USA, he made a fantastic point that sums the whole thing up. He said Murdoch took the tabloids "into the gutter" and the British public "lapped it up". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 Weak response from Miliband IMHO As if you'd ever say otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 As if you'd ever say otherwise. As if you'd reply otherwise... Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 Trousers in pro-Tory shocker, read all about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 As if you'd reply otherwise... Sigh. What a pathetic response. Sums you up nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 Last night's Newsnight had Carl Bernstein on live from USA, he made a fantastic point that sums the whole thing up. He said Murdoch took the tabloids "into the gutter" and the British public "lapped it up". That's certainly true in so much as a large section of the public lapped it up. The Jeremy Kyle demographic. Whilst the broadsheets aren't above reproach they have certainly come out of this, so far, with their reputations intact and one could argue, in the case of The Guardian, enhanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 Whilst the broadsheets aren't above reproach they have certainly come out of this, so far, with their reputations intact and one could argue, in the case of The Guardian, enhanced. However, without Rupert Murdoch breaking the print unions and Wapping, most Broadsheets would have been bust years ago. Even now the NOTW and The Sun subsidie the loss making Times.The Guardian continues to struggle to make ends meet, despite this enhancing their reputation . Hopefully this mess may lead people towards the broadsheets and therefore easing the financial burden on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 However, without Rupert Murdoch breaking the print unions and Wapping, most Broadsheets would have been bust years ago. Even now the NOTW and The Sun subsidie the loss making Times.The Guardian continues to struggle to make ends meet, despite this enhancing their reputation . Hopefully this mess may lead people towards the broadsheets and therefore easing the financial burden on them. not until they put t1ts on the inside cover or an agony aunt in the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 Will there be any investigation into how the **** with the foam managed to breach security? This has caused further embarrassment to the country IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 [/b] not until they put t1ts on the inside cover or an agony aunt in the middle If the guardian had t1tties that would make it my perfect paper :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 So Cameron comes out of the day better than Millibean.... Until Jeremy Hunt opens his mouth.. Wow with employees like that who needs enemies, a whole new rabbit hole to go down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 What a pathetic response. Sums you up nicely. Likewise x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 This is boring now. Far more important things going on in the world to get our teeth into Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 Trousers in pro-Tory shocker, read all about it. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 I'm watching the news now. Clegg is cracking me up, sat behind Cameron looking the other way trying to distance himself from the PM. One of Clegg's best performances in the chamber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 20 July, 2011 Share Posted 20 July, 2011 This is boring now. Far more important things going on in the world to get our teeth into And potentially far more damaging to all of our & our Children's personal lives. Hope the doom-sayers are wrong over the next 2 weeks, but we could look back on this as a happy distraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 July, 2011 Share Posted 21 July, 2011 And potentially far more damaging to all of our & our Children's personal lives. Hope the doom-sayers are wrong over the next 2 weeks, but we could look back on this as a happy distraction. Nah. The imminent collapse if the euro or the US economy has far more potential to screw over our kids lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 21 July, 2011 Share Posted 21 July, 2011 Nah. The imminent collapse if the euro or the US economy has far more potential to screw over our kids lives. I was agreeing with you. Euro zone collapse with the PIIGS having to leave will send the Euro rocketing, burn banks & everyone's savings/pensions yet again and severely mess up UK PLC's exports & job prospetcs. Meanwhile we can worry whether Fox News had a Black Ops Department back in 1999 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8650631/Rupert-Murdochs-Fox-News-ran-black-ops-department-former-executive-claims.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 24 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 24 July, 2011 (edited) http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/23/news-international-liberal-democrats-bskyb and http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8657058/Tories-did-deal-with-Murdoch-over-BBC-licence-fee.html Edited 24 July, 2011 by bridge too far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 28 July, 2011 Share Posted 28 July, 2011 Just as you think this story subsides... http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/28/phone-hacking-sarah-payne http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019852/News-World-hacked-phone-Sarah-Paynes-mother.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-14332689 (3 links there just for balance) After campaigning veraciously for Sarah's law, they were hacking the Mother's phone... a phone given to them by the News of the World(join the dots anyone?). Brook's made much of her relationship with the Payne's as well... absolutely disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 28 July, 2011 Share Posted 28 July, 2011 Just as you think this story subsides... http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/28/phone-hacking-sarah-payne http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019852/News-World-hacked-phone-Sarah-Paynes-mother.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-14332689 (3 links there just for balance) After campaigning veraciously for Sarah's law, they were hacking the Mother's phone... a phone given to them by the News of the World(join the dots anyone?). Brook's made much of her relationship with the Payne's as well... absolutely disgusting. Brooks gave it to her personally? B1tch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 28 July, 2011 Share Posted 28 July, 2011 Brooks gave it to her personally? B1tch! So people at the News of the World would easily have had access to her number :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 28 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 28 July, 2011 And there's this little nugget http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/murdochs-were-given-secret-defence-briefings-2326517.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 29 July, 2011 Share Posted 29 July, 2011 And there's this little nugget http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/murdochs-were-given-secret-defence-briefings-2326517.html we will await for the shadow cabinet to release their meetings. I wonder if the last governments records will also be released. You will be very naive to believe this has not been going on for a long time. Perhaps the meetings with the Guardian should be made public, after all the government spends a lot of money with them. The whole lot is a sorry mess,and pointing the finger is a danger as I suspect all parties have tried to court the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 29 July, 2011 Share Posted 29 July, 2011 we will await for the shadow cabinet to release their meetings. I wonder if the last governments records will also be released. You will be very naive to believe this has not been going on for a long time. Perhaps the meetings with the Guardian should be made public, after all the government spends a lot of money with them. The whole lot is a sorry mess,and pointing the finger is a danger as I suspect all parties have tried to court the media. The meetings records with all other newspaper groups have been released by the government. They show that NI was by a country mile the most frequent visitors - and that the meetings tended to be with NI executives rather than journalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 29 July, 2011 Share Posted 29 July, 2011 Johnny boy. you should check your facts before calling someone a *****. if you bothered to look into what had gone on you will find Ms brooks is a very close friend of sara payne. Some other weasel allegedelly hacked the phone or lets says the phone details were on the police documents , does not mean it was hacked what the NOW did was wrongand the likes of mulcraine and beardall are just saddos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 29 July, 2011 Share Posted 29 July, 2011 Johnny boy. you should check your facts before calling someone a *****. if you bothered to look into what had gone on you will find Ms brooks is a very close friend of sara payne. Some other weasel allegedelly hacked the phone or lets says the phone details were on the police documents , does not mean it was hacked what the NOW did was wrongand the likes of mulcraine and beardall are just saddos The fact that a giant multinational should stoop to hiring Barry the Briefcase just goes to show you what lowlifes NI are. Mulcaire was a heavily paid contractor to NoW, undertaking specifically ordered tasks and receiving very high fees for carrying them out. He may have been a 'saddo' as you call him, but that doesn't alter the rather easily checkable 'fact' that he was acting under instruction from NoW execs. It's a great shame that the Select Committee didn't ask Brooks the direct question: what instructions did you give Mulcaire? I guess we'll have to wait for the trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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