Verbal Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 It was pleasing to hear that circulation dropped by 200k when they decided to back Blair. British people (particularly the English) are Conservative by nature. So how does Murdoch's decade-long support for Blair's New Labour (and some of Brown too) amount to a 'stand against socialism'?
Verbal Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 Murdoch says the PM to whom he was closest of all was... Gordo! Clearly a very subtle 'stand against socialism'.
Gemmel Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 murdoch has just been attacked - interview suspended
dune Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 OMFG, some leftwing scumbag has just tried to attack Rupert Murdoch
Sheaf Saint Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 OMFG, some leftwing scumbag has just tried to attack Rupert Murdoch Oh for ****s sake dune! Seriously. I really don't give a **** if i get banned or infracted for this, but you really are just such a f***ing insufferable pr1ck, you know that! HOW THE **** DO YOU KNOW THE MAN IS LEFT-WING!? And what the **** does it matter what his political leanings are.
dune Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 Oh for ****s sake dune! Seriously. I really don't give a **** if i get banned or infracted for this, but you really are just such a f***ing insufferable pr1ck, you know that! HOW THE **** DO YOU KNOW THE MAN IS LEFT-WING!? And what the **** does it matter what his political leanings are. Just at look at the scruffy ****. I will be proved correct. He's anarchist scum.
trousers Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 Shaving foam or white paint - most of it down the face of the attacker!
dune Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 Shaving foam or white paint - most of it down the face of the attacker! And the copper. And Ruperts suit.
trousers Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 I think we should have an enquiry about this. Met Police security is obviously not up to scratch.....
Sheaf Saint Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 The BBC keep repeating over and over the same clip where you can't actually see what happened. It appears the man put a custard pie in Murdoch's face. Perhaps he's the Phantom Flan Flinger form Tiswas?
Sheaf Saint Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 Anyway, back to the point... From the short amount I saw, I didn't see either of the Murdoch's give a single direct answer to any of the committee's questions. All I saw was evasion and waffle. To be expected really, but it was almost cringeworthy.
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 OMFG, some leftwing scumbag has just tried to attack Rupert Murdoch Presumably you will be happy to buy said scumbag a pint as he is "standing up for his convictions"?
Verbal Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 Jonny Marbles. Good name for someone who seems to have mislaid them. Until a few mins before the attack, he was happily tweeting some reasonable common sense. "One gets the sense that they haven't really done the required reading ahead of their presentation. Think they may fail this module." http://twitter.com/#!/JonnieMarbles
bridge too far Posted 19 July, 2011 Author Posted 19 July, 2011 Anyway, back to the point... From the short amount I saw, I didn't see either of the Murdoch's give a single direct answer to any of the committee's questions. All I saw was evasion and waffle. To be expected really, but it was almost cringeworthy. Either they didn't really know what had been going on - which begs the question 'are they fit and proper to run such a corporation given their ignorance about the propriety and (lack of) diligence of their company' or They're lying
dune Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 Presumably you will be happy to buy said scumbag a pint as he is "standing up for his convictions"? Very good.
Sheaf Saint Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 Either they didn't really know what had been going on - which begs the question 'are they fit and proper to run such a corporation given their ignorance about the propriety and (lack of) diligence of their company' or They're lying My money is on the latter.
dune Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 I think a lot of people with have respect for Rupert murdoch. He is an 84 year old man and was subject to a common assaunt. He came back in and he regained his composure. I admire him for that.
aintforever Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 I can't believe the TV cameras missed the old c*nt get foam pied.
Saintandy666 Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 I think a lot of people with have respect for Rupert murdoch. He is an 84 year old man and was subject to a common assaunt. He came back in and he regained his composure. I admire him for that. He is 80.
Verbal Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 I think a lot of people with have respect for Rupert murdoch. He is an 84 year old man and was subject to a common assaunt. He came back in and he regained his composure. I admire him for that. And his 'stand against socialism', presumably. How does that work exactly? You still haven't answered how you reconcile that statement, your inane definition of socialism, the fact that Murdoch supported NewLab for more than 10 years, and that Brown was his fave PM.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 Rupert's wife is a game one, stright in with a dig. As for the proceding's, from what I saw the Tory bird hit the nail on the head IMO. It was so widespread and used by all the tabloids that nobody thought that hacking was that big a deal. It was only when it became clear that it was victims of crime as well, that the story grew and grew. She said that Pier's Morgan admitted in his book that he got a Mirror story from hacking. Of course they are not a part of the Murdoch's evil empire, so the BBC will gloss over that one.
aintforever Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 I think a lot of people with have respect for Rupert murdoch. He is an 84 year old man and was subject to a common assaunt. He came back in and he regained his composure. I admire him for that. He survived getting a bit of shaving foam on his suit, not exactly Harry Brown.
dune Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 He is 80. I stand corrected. The point still stands that his return and his composure after the attack should be admired. I certainly have nothing but the upmost respect for him.
bridge too far Posted 19 July, 2011 Author Posted 19 July, 2011 He survived getting a bit of shaving foam on his suit, not exactly Harry Brown. I wonder how much the Murdochs paid the pie thrower?
Saintandy666 Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 I stand corrected. The point still stands that his return and his composure after the attack should be admired. I certainly have nothing but the upmost respect for him. Ok, fair enough. But it doesn't change anything.
View From The Top Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 Caroline Mensch and Tom Watson were the only ones worth having on the panel. They knew how to question and probe.
dune Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 He survived getting a bit of shaving foam on his suit, not exactly Harry Brown. He's an 80 year old man that suffered a common assault. I'm sure the public will respect his reaction. That anarchist yob pulled off a masterstroke in PR for Mr Murdoch.
View From The Top Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 He's an 80 year old man that suffered a common assault. I'm sure the public will respect his reaction. That anarchist yob pulled off a masterstroke in PR for Mr Murdoch. As with most things, you're wrong. Your advice regarding the PIGS proved spot on as usual.
trousers Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 He is 80. Which, according to my calculations, is the same number of bites a certain poster has achieved on this thread thus far.... ;-)
Thedelldays Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 No wonder he does not know full details. Never realised the NOTW was less than 1% of his business empire
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 I stand corrected. The point still stands that his return and his composure after the attack should be admired. I certainly have nothing but the upmost respect for him. Says a lot about you I think that you respect a man whose corportation hacked in to the phone of a dead 13 year old girl.
Saintandy666 Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 Neil Wallis advised Andy Coulson before the election.
Saintandy666 Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 No wonder he does not know full details. Never realised the NOTW was less than 1% of his business empire Perhaps. But you would think he would have at least known about £1m worth of payouts and employees convicted of blackmail. It is pretty bad on his part he hasn't been on top of this stuff.
trousers Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 I wonder how much the Murdochs paid the pie thrower? Now you mention it, his missus did seem to see it coming very early...
Verbal Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 Now you mention it, his missus did seem to see it coming very early... So how many shooters where there on the grassy knoll, trousers?
Saintandy666 Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 To be honest, on this whole attack business, Murdoch should never have hacked foams in the first place!
Sheaf Saint Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 I wonder how much the Murdochs paid the pie thrower? Indeed. Conveniently for Rupert, it has ensured that all of tomorrow's headlines will focus on what they will inevitably describe as as "appaling attack on an elderly man" instead of the issue at hand, which is that he could not give one single direct answer to any of the questions put to him.
bridge too far Posted 19 July, 2011 Author Posted 19 July, 2011 Neil Wallis advised Andy Coulson before the election. I think Cameron's mire just got deeper!
trousers Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 So how many shooters where there on the grassy knoll, trousers? Two.
trousers Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 No wonder he does not know full details. Never realised the NOTW was less than 1% of his business empire I've little or no doubt that Murdoch is embellishing his 'corporate ignorance' somewhat, but, I worked for one of the UK's largest companies for 20 years and it was frightening how little the boardroom knew about what was happening at middle management level, let alone the shop floor.
View From The Top Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 Young Caroline Mensch is very impressive.
bridge too far Posted 19 July, 2011 Author Posted 19 July, 2011 Young Caroline Mensch is very impressive. She certainly is. Was she a lawyer before becoming an MP?
trousers Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 I think Cameron's mire just got deeper! If it can be proven that Coulson divulged this to Cameron...
Saintandy666 Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 Young Caroline Mensch is very impressive. She has questioned well today I must say. On the TV a lot too recently. Isn't it Louise Mensch though?
View From The Top Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 I've little or no doubt that Murdoch is embellishing his 'corporate ignorance' somewhat, but, I worked for one of the UK's largest companies for 20 years and it was frightening how little the boardroom knew about what was happening at middle management level, let alone the shop floor. I too think it's possible that Murdoch didn't know what was going on at the NOTW but it's inconceivable that Brooks and Coulson didn't. That said, the buck stops with Murdoch.
View From The Top Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 She has questioned well today I must say. On the TV a lot too recently. Isn't it Louise Mensch though? Of course. I have no idea where Caroline came from.
View From The Top Posted 19 July, 2011 Posted 19 July, 2011 She certainly is. Was she a lawyer before becoming an MP? Wrote chick lit'. Done her career no harm that's for sure. Very much one to watch for the future.
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