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errr no, it is just my personal opinion that i do not like ex skate players playing for saints. i am not the only one, just one of the few on here who are honest enough to say this, unlike the majority on here who think anyone who wears a saints shirt is worthy.

 

That's a sad opinion. Footballers are hired guns who play for whoever for a paycheck. It's the quality of the player that is important, not where he has played.

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do you ever have anything positive, nice, happy to say..or are you a constant drip..?

 

Plenty of positive things to say. If we sig. Cork this week I will be very happy. Martin and lambert renewing contracts is good and something we needed to do.

 

I still think Adkins needs to prove himself in the transfer market.

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Hmm. NA's transfer record has not exactly been great thus far.

 

Well tbf it hasn't needed to be. The team was in place last season and didn't need any major improvements. Having said that, many fans were highlighting we needed cover in CM, and we got Chaplow, and also that we needed more pace in the squad and lo and behold Jonathan Forte signs. It's a similar situation now, NA has highlighted that he doesn't want to overhaul the squad, but rather build on the strong foundations that we already have.

 

Granted, Dany N'Guessen was rubbish.

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Personally think Nugent would be a good signing' date=' particularly if free.[/quote']

 

Just wondering if the signing on fee and higher wages amount to pretty much the same as CMS or fat lad from Sheffield then how'd you (and everyone else) feel about it?

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Just wondering if the signing on fee and higher wages amount to pretty much the same as CMS or fat lad from Sheffield then how'd you (and everyone else) feel about it?

 

 

 

Interesting question. Personally I would prefer him to both. He's proven at this level. My concern is that higher wages could make an unhappy camp. I'm sure that na and nc will take that into account.

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Interesting question. Personally I would prefer him to both. He's proven at this level. My concern is that higher wages could make an unhappy camp. I'm sure that na and nc will take that into account.

 

Having taken an interest in the Pompey forums, I most certainly would not prefer him to those two. I don't think he has the pace required either.

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Well tbf it hasn't needed to be. The team was in place last season and didn't need any major improvements. Having said that, many fans were highlighting we needed cover in CM, and we got Chaplow, and also that we needed more pace in the squad and lo and behold Jonathan Forte signs. It's a similar situation now, NA has highlighted that he doesn't want to overhaul the squad, but rather build on the strong foundations that we already have.

 

Granted, Dany N'Guessen was rubbish.

 

Fair enough but he is still unproven in the transfer market, something that pardew was brilliant at tbf.

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Having taken an interest in the Pompey forums, I most certainly would not prefer him to those two. I don't think he has the pace required either.

 

 

 

It's a game of opinions as they say. He played most of last season out of position in a poor team. He's still young and has played for England.

 

CMS has done well in the third division so for me he has yet to prove himself at the same level as nugent.

 

Sharp is the better of he and cms imo, but for me is not as good as nugent.

 

As for pace, and have you seen nugent? Sure he's no theo but he's got pace.

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I saw Norwich .v. Pompey last season and Nugent had almost no impact on the game....

 

...except...

 

robbed a Norwich player by the touchline deep in the Pompey half, ran with the ball all the way down the pitch hugging the touchline with Norwich players unable to catch him, squared for Kitson to side foot in.

 

Then, minutes later, went on another long run, past a couple of defenders and into the box where he was chopped down, Pompey score the penalty to seal a 0:2 win.

 

Spoiled my afternoon as I only went to see Pompey get tonked.

 

So, my conclusion is that he still has a bit of pace!

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Just wondering if the signing on fee and higher wages amount to pretty much the same as CMS or fat lad from Sheffield then how'd you (and everyone else) feel about it?

 

Not sure to be honest, he wouldn't be my first choice out of all available but I still think he'd be a good addition and would score goals in our team.

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Well tbf it hasn't needed to be. The team was in place last season and didn't need any major improvements. Having said that, many fans were highlighting we needed cover in CM, and we got Chaplow, and also that we needed more pace in the squad and lo and behold Jonathan Forte signs. It's a similar situation now, NA has highlighted that he doesn't want to overhaul the squad, but rather build on the strong foundations that we already have.

 

Granted, Dany N'Guessen was rubbish.

 

It is not cover we are seeking. It is ready made fist team talent. With the squad as it is there is not enough depth. The loan players have gone back remember.

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Fair enough but he is still unproven in the transfer market, something that pardew was brilliant at tbf.

 

Oh come on, seriously ? Pardew was able to pick and choose from pretty much anyone available in the Championship and lots of League One players who weren't available until we splashed the cash for them. He picked well because he got in a load of players playing above the level they were going to be asked to for Saints.

 

Adkins hasn't needed to do that as he already had an excellent squad at League One level and didn't need anything other than to ensure we had cover in positions where we had injuries, suspensions, or possible jail sentences, so most of his signings have been to get us out of League One in the short term, not to get us out of the Championship. Forte is about the only longer-term signing Adkins is solely responsible for, and he's already got Championship experience, if hasn't set the world alight so far - but he did a hell of a job against MK and showed potential.

 

We'll see in the next 6-8 weeks whether Adkins is able to attract players to improve us and given Pardew-type funds to attract players. So far it seems we're going so far then folding and walking away if people are after too much, which isn't the manager's role anyway. I'd say Sharp and Cork were decent targets and they were confirmed by the manager himself.

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As one of the blue few i really hope you do get Boo gent, As it will mean your taking a backward step, You already have better strikers on your books, I personally have never seen a player fall over his own feet as much as him.

 

did you not watch the David Haye fight on Sat??

 

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Fair enough but he is still unproven in the transfer market, something that pardew was brilliant at tbf.

 

Is he? Can you give me a quick potted history of his dealings throughout his career then please, or are you basing this comment on the ten month stint at Saints when few signings were needed and therefore speaking from a position of ignorance?

 

Cheers.

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Is he? Can you give me a quick potted history of his dealings throughout his career then please, or are you basing this comment on the ten month stint at Saints when few signings were needed and therefore speaking from a position of ignorance?

 

Cheers.

 

Adkins is at a totally different club now and has completely different expectations with a different job to do. Transfers to a club like Southampton are hugely different to the type of players that S****horpe were looking for and could attract.

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Adkins is at a totally different club now and has completely different expectations with a different job to do. Transfers to a club like Southampton are hugely different to the type of players that S****horpe were looking for and could attract.

so basically...you cant

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Fair enough but he is still unproven in the transfer market, something that pardew was brilliant at tbf.

 

I have to agree. The jury is still out regarding NA being able to get in good players.

 

It seems most Saints managers over the last 20 years were only good at getting the best out of an inherited or assembled squad, or good in the transfer market, but not both.

 

Of course we've had our fair share who were crap at both. :)

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Is he? Can you give me a quick potted history of his dealings throughout his career then please, or are you basing this comment on the ten month stint at Saints when few signings were needed and therefore speaking from a position of ignorance?

 

Cheers.

 

 

I don't think hypo is saying NA is going to be crap in the transfer market. But I agree with him that the jury is out, so to speak.

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I don't think hypo is saying NA is going to be crap in the transfer market. But I agree with him that the jury is out, so to speak.

 

Yes exactly. In fact, I hope he is really good! But compare him to Pardew so far (early days I know) and Pardew is ahead no doubt. Even the fringe players thing doesn't really hold water when you look at Antonio.

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errr no, it is just my personal opinion that i do not like ex skate players playing for saints. i am not the only one, just one of the few on here who are honest enough to say this, unlike the majority on here who think anyone who wears a saints shirt is worthy.

 

just coz ur not the only one doesn’t make the morons right. & to later state that those disagreeing with you are having a "love in" smacks of desperation to a lost argument just hand back the spade & stop digging

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Dont say that too loudly on here. Leicester are only signing sh*t players and will struggle.

 

maybe out of form over last couple of years but he definately has quality and is not sh1t, could do very well at new club

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wonder who will be chasing Maynard now?

 

QPR, Norwich, West Ham, Forest, Leicester (they claim they need 2 strikers)...

 

Think Maynard himself has said that he wont join another championship side.

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Didn't want him anyway...i feel any player we want we'll get at the moment...everyone knows we are a big club, with lots of money, therefore lots of pulling power.

 

Soon to have new training facilities, lush stadium, amazing pitch to play on, awesome fans...we have huge pulling power and thats before the players meet nige and nicola and here the plans for the club!!

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Is he? Can you give me a quick potted history of his dealings throughout his career then please, or are you basing this comment on the ten month stint at Saints when few signings were needed and therefore speaking from a position of ignorance?

 

Cheers.

Whilst at Scunny he signed:

Kevan Hurst

Izzy Iriekpen

Paul Hayes

Martin Paterson

Jonathan Forte

Kevin Horlock

Grant McCann

Ben May

Garry Thompson

Michael Lea

Kenny Milne

Gary Hooper

Martyn Woolford

David Mirfin

Sam Togwell

Michael O'Connor

Josh Wright

Rob Jones

Adam Boyes

Michael Raynes

Chris Dagnall

Robert Grant

Michael Collins

Trent McClenahan

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Whilst at Scunny he signed:

Kevan Hurst

Izzy Iriekpen

Paul Hayes

Martin Paterson

Jonathan Forte

Kevin Horlock

Grant McCann

Ben May

Garry Thompson

Michael Lea

Kenny Milne

Gary Hooper

Martyn Woolford

David Mirfin

Sam Togwell

Michael O'Connor

Josh Wright

Rob Jones

Adam Boyes

Michael Raynes

Chris Dagnall

Robert Grant

Michael Collins

Trent McClenahan

 

Should also take into account the various players he got on loan - some very good finds, especially strikers amongst them. Guess lack of funds prevented him from taking some of those deals further. Interesting that there isnt one foreign player on that list.

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