LGTL Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 Just had a quick look over on North Stand Chat, apparantely the fee was £2.5million, money we clearly have. You can only assume (and hope) we have bigger fish to fry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 the only player that Peterborough have that I wish we would sign is BOYD Where would you fit him though? He plays in the same position and in a similar way to Lallana, and he's not going to sign for us when he knows he'll be second fiddle to Adam. (which he would be, as Adam is still a better player) I'm not denying he's a good player, but I just can't see a place for him in our team tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 No they don't. Brighton play possession football, Peterborough are open and expansive. What kind of football do we play,would you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 Hooooof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 No they don't. Brighton play possession football, Peterborough are open and expansive. Did I say identical? Both teams like to get the ball down and pass and move - biggest difference is that Brighton are cautious and play the percentages. Matter of degree rather than kind. When they want to, they can easily step it up as they did during the 2nd half at SMS last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 It is a really good signing for them no doubt. I would definately have liked to have seen him here. Having said that, I would also much prefer to have Maynard even if it meant paying an extra 1-1.5 million. So bearing in mind we haven't gone for Sharp and not put up the money for CMS (which is fair enough in my eyes) we should really do everything we can to get Maynard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 This is a bit of a surprise as I actually thought he would go to a bigger club than us. I certainly do not place Brighton in that category. I have got to say I was impressed by him from what I saw last season and would have liked to have signed him but perhaps NA has seen something that has put him off. Or Nigel has identified a better option elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 My main worry is that we are possibly aiming at unrealistic signings like Maynard who says he will only move to the premiership.We may then look back and kick ourselves that the best realistic alternatives like CMS have all been snapped up and we then have to panic buy at the end of August when we realise our current squad is not quite as good as some posters on here think. If we are aiming at mid table mediocrity will that satisfy Lallana,Oxo,Morgan and Fonte who all want to play in the premiership?Our current team is not top 10 imo with all the other major clubs either having or about to seriously strengthen Hope we are speaking to other central midfielders whilst we wait for Cork to make up his mind!! Would hate to miss out on a player like Guthrie whilst we wait and yet again miss out on all the next best signings to our rivals whilst we cling to the hope our no 1 target will join us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 with Lambert, Barnard, Connolly, Ox-C, Guly and Lallana as attacking options I don't see any reason to panic that we haven't got CMS. Brighton lost two of their best players and their main forward - hence needing to get someone in. I am far from convinced a relatively short term option of CMS would have improved our team enough to justify the fee- or even one significantly lower. Just not young enough nor a big enough improvement on what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 My main worry is that we are possibly aiming at unrealistic signings like Maynard who says he will only move to the premiership.We may then look back and kick ourselves that the best realistic alternatives like CMS have all been snapped up and we then have to panic buy at the end of August when we realise our current squad is not quite as good as some posters on here think. If we are aiming at mid table mediocrity will that satisfy Lallana,Oxo,Morgan and Fonte who all want to play in the premiership?Our current team is not top 10 imo with all the other major clubs either having or about to seriously strengthen Hope we are speaking to other central midfielders whilst we wait for Cork to make up his mind!! Would hate to miss out on a player like Guthrie whilst we wait and yet again miss out on all the next best signings to our rivals whilst we cling to the hope our no 1 target will join us. You are aware that we didn't bid for CMS aren't you or are just having an knee jerk reaction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 My main worry is that we are possibly aiming at unrealistic signings like Maynard who says he will only move to the premiership.We may then look back and kick ourselves that the best realistic alternatives like CMS have all been snapped up and we then have to panic buy at the end of August when we realise our current squad is not quite as good as some posters on here think. If we are aiming at mid table mediocrity will that satisfy Lallana,Oxo,Morgan and Fonte who all want to play in the premiership?Our current team is not top 10 imo with all the other major clubs either having or about to seriously strengthen Hope we are speaking to other central midfielders whilst we wait for Cork to make up his mind!! Would hate to miss out on a player like Guthrie whilst we wait and yet again miss out on all the next best signings to our rivals whilst we cling to the hope our no 1 target will join us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 (edited) The Peterborough chairman said on Friday that he expected CMS to sign for Leicester over the weekend. Fair to say this has come as a bit of a surprise, and perhaps demonstrates a lack of ambition on the player's part? Guaranteed a starting place at Brighton, whereas would have competition at QPR, West Ham and Leicester. A rumour I heard this morning was that he had agreed to join QPR and then their board pulled the plug on the deal at the last minute. Given the characters involved there, that seems plausible. Just heard an interview with Barry Fry on Talksport. Confirmed bids from QPR, Leicester & West Ham had also been accepted. Says deals was agreed 6 weeks ago with Neil Warnock but that Ecclestone & Briatore refused to sanction it. Described the board at QPR as an embarrassment. CMS met with Allardyce at West Ham on Thursday, and met Eriksson at Leicester on Friday (having agreed a deal 10 days ago with them). Believes CMS will be on less wages at Brighton than was offered at West Ham. Edited 4 July, 2011 by Gorgiesaint QPR deal agreed 6 weeks ago not 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 Frankly I couldn't give a flying fig about CMS. Sure, he's a good acquisition for Brighton, however in many attacks he made last season many of them were based on the hoof and chase style of football. That might be highly effective at L1 level, but I think he'll be found out in the NPC. A case of watch this space methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 Fair play to Brighton. Good signing at this stage (Of course he could go on to be absolute crap). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pressingon Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 Where would you fit him though? He plays in the same position and in a similar way to Lallana, and he's not going to sign for us when he knows he'll be second fiddle to Adam. (which he would be, as Adam is still a better player) I'm not denying he's a good player, but I just can't see a place for him in our team tbh. Surely he would have played alongside Lambert (as opposed to Barnard/Connolly/Guly) and I think that partnership would have got a hatful, don't think he would have been competing with Adam for the same spot. Still water under the bridge now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 Could be good business who knows, I'd rather be getting some proven players at this level, even if it means paying a little more for them. CMS struggled last time in the championship. We have a lot of unproven players at this level this year, but I believe that they will step up to the mark. I'd just like to see a couple of good solid championship players brought in, & believe in time it will happen. And seeing as we didn't bid for him its no great loss is it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 Surely he would have played alongside Lambert (as opposed to Barnard/Connolly/Guly) and I think that partnership would have got a hatful, don't think he would have been competing with Adam for the same spot. Still water under the bridge now... Was commenting on someones post about George Boyd, their other player that's probably off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pressingon Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 Was commenting on someones post about George Boyd, their other player that's probably off. Sorry missed that it was about Boyd rather than CMS my mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 4-year contract, I suspect only Brighton were prepared to give him that, not bad for a 27 year old with no experience at this level, this may be why CMS chose BHA supposedly over other possibly more attractive clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 Brighton? £2.5m? Bloody hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macey_J2 Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 We bid for him in Jan apparently: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?30873-Posh-Owner-says-Saints-Mackail-Smith-bid-quot-Worst-he-s-ever-seen-quot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 he has gone to brighton who are prepared to pay the wages he wanted, he'll play in a nice stadium and brighton have very very freindly fans. reading a quote from gus poyet he will be their main man and have the whole team built around him. he is guaranteed a first team place week in week out. would he get that here? no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 he has gone to brighton who are prepared to pay the wages he wanted, he'll play in a nice stadium and brighton have very very freindly fans. reading a quote from gus poyet he will be their main man and have the whole team built around him. he is guaranteed a first team place week in week out. would he get that here? no I think that was what he was looking for tbh. At the likes of QPR, Leicester, WHU etc he'd have been a squad player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 He's a league 1 player joining a championship team that will be hoping to stave off relegation, we're after championship players that will help us gain promotion and can play at the highest level. CMS obviously doesn't have the drive to go to a top team and fight for a place, worried about his own abilities perhaps, gone to a team that has guarenteed him a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 Can see Brighton having a really good season again. But IF we can keep Connely fit we will still have a good shout. I suppose it all depends on what happens with Oxlade,if he goes a new right midfielder would then be our priority. Still would like us to concentrate on getting an attacking playmaker in centre of midfield. Who ? No idea. Seeing the Eklund thread just reminds me of the kind of player that would be the difference between success and failure. Where is the next Eklund, Williams, Berkovic,Case ? Just re-read my post, sorry about the waffling, can't be arsed to change it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 So the Brightons. Leicesters and Burnelys are seem as being more ambitious and better bets than us? Jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 So the Brightons. Leicesters and Burnelys are seem as being more ambitious and better bets than us? Jeez. Well seeing as we didn't have a bid accepted for CMS it's a silly thing to say. And how are Burnley more ambitions than us? have they signed jack cork? or anyone for that matter? No. (maybe you're being sarcastic??? can't tell on here anymore!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 Not as attractive as we think maybe? Danns (Foxes), Stephens (Charlton) CMS (Brighton) Sharp (Donny) and Gobern (Huddersfield) Cork (???) I think that is a fair conclusion you've drawn. Still, some here will claim we werent interested in any of these players and are biding our time for better players to become available... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 Hi Alps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 Was told by my QPR supporting mate,that CMS wanted assurances that Warnock was staying,and at the time Warnock could not give them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 If he'd chosen them over us I'd have questions but he didn't so I don't although it would appear the hysterical queens are in full voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokingFun Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 The story I heard (about us and CMS) is that we were interested, but weren't prepared to pay that sort of money for him. Absolutely right too, CMS is not proven at this level and would be a big gamble at £3m for sure. The transfer window is only just starting to get into any sort of gear so let's be patient and see what NA can unearth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokingFun Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 My main worry is that we are possibly aiming at unrealistic signings like Maynard who says he will only move to the premiership.We may then look back and kick ourselves that the best realistic alternatives like CMS have all been snapped up and we then have to panic buy at the end of August when we realise our current squad is not quite as good as some posters on here think. If we are aiming at mid table mediocrity will that satisfy Lallana,Oxo,Morgan and Fonte who all want to play in the premiership?Our current team is not top 10 imo with all the other major clubs either having or about to seriously strengthen Hope we are speaking to other central midfielders whilst we wait for Cork to make up his mind!! Would hate to miss out on a player like Guthrie whilst we wait and yet again miss out on all the next best signings to our rivals whilst we cling to the hope our no 1 target will join us. Guthrie will play for a premiership team if he moves on unless someone offers silly money / wages. He's a decent PL player and doubt would want to make a drop down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 Pah, who needs Makail-Smith when we've got Lukas Jutkiewicz signing tomorrow. Should be fun getting a song going with his name in it! Oh, and thanks to Dan Seabourne for his services - and good luck to him at Coventry as part of the Jutkiewicz deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 Pah, who needs Makail-Smith when we've got Lukas Jutkiewicz signing tomorrow. Should be fun getting a song going with his name in it! Oh, and thanks to Dan Seabourne for his services - and good luck to him at Coventry as part of the Jutkiewicz deal. are you ITK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 I think that is a fair conclusion you've drawn. Still, some here will claim we werent interested in any of these players and are biding our time for better players to become available... You are such a character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 Was told by my QPR supporting mate,that CMS wanted assurances that Warnock was staying,and at the time Warnock could not give them. Not quite according to the Peterborough chairman in a video interview on their site. For some reason Warnock couldn't close the deal. He was very almost a Norwich player last season, but Peterborough turned down the money to try and gain promotion. His signature was *****il yesterday) between West Ham and Leicester, the former coming in with the much better deal. Birmingham were also interested but had to sell players first. CMS spoke to both but couldn't commit. Brighton came in with an offer that didn't match West Ham's but was better than Leicester's. At the last minute West Ham pulled out, and CMS chose Brighton who apparently were always his first choice. Surprised many I'm sure, but quite refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 are you ITK? Sssh. Yes. Yes I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 £2.5m for a player who is 27 going on 28 and has only 1 season in the Championship under his belt is a bit much if you ask me. Especially when you think the championships top scorer last year moved to Swansea for around £3m recently. What he did last year was impressive but i think Brighton paid way over the going rate for a league one striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobysaint Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 I think fair play to the lad. Everybody is quick enough to moan about people like Michael Owen and Wayne Bridge who take home big wages to keep the bench warm. He is probably not on as much money but will be starting every game. Some say its lacks ambition and while i do partly agree, he clearly just wants to play football every week and enjoy it. It appears we weren't in for him this window anyway so not really too bothered where he has gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 4 July, 2011 Share Posted 4 July, 2011 See everyone is jumping up in down about this one. I love this board!! I think we will make 2 or 3 top class signings which will see up mid table or even just above next season, and then build again! COYS!! Anyone jumped off the Itchen Bridge yet, as they cannot wait for the bloody shirt to come out....me I have been getting on with my life, some of you should try it by the looks of things!! Save your worrying in the season if required!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 5 July, 2011 Share Posted 5 July, 2011 Wind. Up. Merchant. But it's better than no threads at all I guess. Some actual news has to come along soon, surely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Saint Posted 5 July, 2011 Share Posted 5 July, 2011 Fantastic signing for Brighton I wish we had got him blistering pace & what a engine keeps running at pace all game would have been just what we need. I know it is early days & fingers crossed we can get the players we want but early signs are not good on the transfer front has NA got the pull to attract top players ? I really like Nigel thought he did a great job the only question I have about him is can he do the business in the transfer market time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 5 July, 2011 Share Posted 5 July, 2011 I hope we had bids tabled for Fabregas & Clichy: Barcelona & Man City who are they!!! Carlos Teves wants a move.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 July, 2011 Share Posted 5 July, 2011 It's only disappointing if we don't get someone better in. It's a real shame because cms would have been perfect for us with his pace and work rate. I wonder if we are refusing to pay a penny over our valuation and thus players are choosing other clubs who pay that little bit extra in terms of wages or fees. I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing tbh. Sometimes when you really want a player you have to go a little higher in order to tempt them over the others. I hope we are prepared to do that if needed. For the record, nugget would not be a better signing than cms at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 July, 2011 Share Posted 5 July, 2011 It's only disappointing if we don't get someone better in. It's a real shame because cms would have been perfect for us with his pace and work rate. I wonder if we are refusing to pay a penny over our valuation and thus players are choosing other clubs who pay that little bit extra in terms of wages or fees. I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing tbh. Sometimes when you really want a player you have to go a little higher in order to tempt them over the others. I hope we are prepared to do that if needed. For the record, nugget would not be a better signing than cms at all. sam allardyce was on the radio saying it was a rather strange move that CMS opted for Brighton over West ham and leicester......he would not elaborate but it is not just about football and glory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 5 July, 2011 Share Posted 5 July, 2011 Fair play to Brighton. Theyve had it bad for so long. All my family and a lot of my friends support them and to think where they were in the late nighties. I might stroll down to their new bizarre looking stadium this coming season for an evening game or 2. I think the difference between us and them is they are trying to make a statement here. They have one guy at the helm who is definitely doing a Jack Walker and enjoying himself in the process. We are being far more careful and wont pay silly money nor wages - were just slow but surely following our 5 year Premiership plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 5 July, 2011 Share Posted 5 July, 2011 The Complacent Few (CF) might not want to remember that it was Brighton who 'walked the League' in L1 last season, not Saints. The gap would have been even larger if Albion had not secured the title with so many games left that they didn't need to keep trying and they actually took their team away on holiday before the last games of the season while we were still looking over our shoulder at Huddersfield. Since then, Brighton have lost two good players, striker Murray and winger Bennett but have replaced both with equal if not better quality. At least one of the CF has said on here that he wouldn't have wanted Mackail-Smith for Saints as he wasn't good enough or young enough to be worth the fee (reportedly £2.5m potentially rising to £3.25m). Wouldn't want a player who recently won a full international cap, even if it was only for Scotland, and who at 27 is just reaching his best years. Fact is that CMS is two years younger than Rickie Lambert and the same age as LB (27 this month). We are told that Saints did not make a bid for Mackail-Smith, yet we are supposed to have been chasing strikers Maynard and Sharp, who didn't want to come here. In contrast, CMS says he chose Brighton over other bidders because of their ambition. But we didn't have the ambition to even bid for him! For those on here who have been saying that Brighton will struggle next year, they'd better hope that's not true, because it looks like wherever Brighton are, Saints will be below them unless some serious action is taken very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 5 July, 2011 Share Posted 5 July, 2011 See everyone is jumping up in down about this one. I love this board!! I think we will make 2 or 3 top class signings which will see up mid table or even just above next season, and then build again! COYS!! Anyone jumped off the Itchen Bridge yet, as they cannot wait for the bloody shirt to come out....me I have been getting on with my life, some of you should try it by the looks of things!! Save your worrying in the season if required!! This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 July, 2011 Share Posted 5 July, 2011 The Complacent Few (CF) might not want to remember that it was Brighton who 'walked the League' in L1 last season, not Saints. The gap would have been even larger if Albion had not secured the title with so many games left that they didn't need to keep trying and they actually took their team away on holiday before the last games of the season while we were still looking over our shoulder at Huddersfield. Since then, Brighton have lost two good players, striker Murray and winger Bennett but have replaced both with equal if not better quality. At least one of the CF has said on here that he wouldn't have wanted Mackail-Smith for Saints as he wasn't good enough or young enough to be worth the fee (reportedly £2.5m potentially rising to £3.25m). Wouldn't want a player who recently won a full international cap, even if it was only for Scotland, and who at 27 is just reaching his best years. Fact is that CMS is two years younger than Rickie Lambert and the same age as LB (27 this month). We are told that Saints did not make a bid for Mackail-Smith, yet we are supposed to have been chasing strikers Maynard and Sharp, who didn't want to come here. In contrast, CMS says he chose Brighton over other bidders because of their ambition. But we didn't have the ambition to even bid for him! For those on here who have been saying that Brighton will struggle next year, they'd better hope that's not true, because it looks like wherever Brighton are, Saints will be below them unless some serious action is taken very soon. I will eat Pat from Poole's garage if we don't finish above Brighton next season even if we don't sign anyone. They did a lot of the hard work by January and after February last season they scraped past a load of bottom half League teams by a single goal and lost to both their nearest rivals, they no longer have a multi-ball system to abuse and will have to restructure the side to accommodate the essential Murray and Bennett leaving, as well as having a new ground teams will love playing at. Plus Brighton haven't finished above 20th in the Championship for 20 years, so they're going to have to reach new heights to do that. Meanwhile we've got the same team that raised their game to beat Ipswich, Blackpool and knock the ball around for 10 mins whilst leading against Man U, with our side clearly capable of playing better in big matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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