West End Saint Posted 8 July, 2011 Share Posted 8 July, 2011 There was a steady flow renewing at lunchtime yesterday me & my Dad got ours I dont think our ST are overpriced I would have thought that we are on par with most championship clubs my ticket works out at £20 per game so not bad looking forward to the season COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 8 July, 2011 Share Posted 8 July, 2011 My nippers and mine have just been done. Passport evidence emailed down to the TO and season tickets to be posted up. Would have liked to have taken advantage of the staggered payments but not living locally that option was removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromdayone Posted 8 July, 2011 Share Posted 8 July, 2011 Just a reminder for those renewing that are expecting to get the free U11 ticket as well.....you wont be able to do both at the same time (unless you want to lose your renewal price). Your renewal will have to be done before the 14th, the 'new' free U11 will have to be done during general sale. (just hope there is a spare seat next to yours at the time otherwise you'll need to move somewhere else). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 Renewed x 3. Including my mum who is in the 60-65 age range. I think the communications and marketing are truly abysmal. But I whinged last year and sales were very good. I'm guess we will see about 13K or so season tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 I Renewed on Tuesday evening. I reckon we'll see a slight increase on last seasons figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 Every season ticket holder I know has renewed and even got some new ones joining us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 Been out of the country and to be honest I had forgotten about renewing. Will have to sort something out this week (sounds like going in person is the way to do it!!). Sadly, I think our group is getting split up with some taking advantage of the cheaper prices in the Chapel, with others staying in the Kingsland as they prefer a side on view. Think season tickets will be slightly up, with a decent number of "free" kiddies boosting the total. Had hoped it would have been a significant rise following promotion and some optimism about the place, but just don't think the Club have done enough to capitalise on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grammy Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 Renewed yesterday but moved from Kingsland to the chapel saving £135!! Didn't have to pay for parking either as some **** had just driven straight through the barrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 Quick question ... does anyone know if the ticket office is open tomorrow (Sunday) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 Highly unlikely, the security were turning people away today saying they had enough in the queue to last until 4pm. The security guard had no intention of giving the sales staff the option to stay on and clear the queue past 4pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 Renewed mine around 1-0clock today and it took me about an hour waiting in the queue.When i walked away,the queue was as long as when i joined it,so it seemed to be a steady stream of people waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 The online system was a waste of time so I phoned about 11am, got straight through, the young lad was extremely polite and helpful, the transaction was smooth, they will post the ticket to me in 2/3 weeks time ! I didn't even bother to protest about the 72% increase, must be going soft ! COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andoverian Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 Every season ticket holder I know has renewed and even got some new ones joining us. 5 of us all from the Andover area 4 aged 60/65 and 1 aged 55 (WIFE). been attending matches together for generations. None are renewing and Im sure you know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 5 of us all from the Andover area 4 aged 60/65 and 1 aged 55 (WIFE). been attending matches together for generations. None are renewing and Im sure you know why. will you get a ticket when concession applies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Donovan Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 5 of us all from the Andover area 4 aged 60/65 and 1 aged 55 (WIFE). been attending matches together for generations. None are renewing and Im sure you know why. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 I phoned about 1pm, got straight through, the young lady was extremely polite and helpful, the transaction was smooth, they will post the ticket to me in 2/3 weeks time ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 5 of us all from the Andover area 4 aged 60/65 and 1 aged 55 (WIFE). been attending matches together for generations. None are renewing and Im sure you know why. Is it because you can't afford it? Is it out of principle? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andoverian Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 At the moment we are disgusted with the way the club and the executive have treated us and it is not all about cost. It is primarily the principle of what has gone on. We all feel that the fans are only as good as the money that can be extracted and we want no part of it. The idea that we all held of Saints being a family club and that we were all in it together is no more and it is very doubtful that we will ever return under the present regime concession or no concession. However i am personally of the opinion that the club is being run with a sale in the future at a massive profit the main aim so never say never. Sadly I do not share the optimism for the future that is widespread on this forum. I feel that many good and true fans are being mislead as to the true intentions of the present executive. It could be that future buyers will be true Saints fans and will return to past values. If that turns out to be the case I will be at the front of the queue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 At the moment we are disgusted with the way the club and the executive have treated us and it is not all about cost. It is primarily the principle of what has gone on. We all feel that the fans are only as good as the money that can be extracted and we want no part of it. The idea that we all held of Saints being a family club and that we were all in it together is no more and it is very doubtful that we will ever return under the present regime concession or no concession. However i am personally of the opinion that the club is being run with a sale in the future at a massive profit the main aim so never say never. Sadly I do not share the optimism for the future that is widespread on this forum. I feel that many good and true fans are being mislead as to the true intentions of the present executive. It could be that future buyers will be true Saints fans and will return to past values. If that turns out to be the case I will be at the front of the queue. I do know where you guys are coming from, and I'd also feel a bit ****ed off. But this is one of the most exciting periods in our history, and I'm sure you'll be back to watch us next season even for the odd 1 or 2 games. We were owned by ''fans'' of the club before and look where that put us. At the end of the day I prefer being run as a business as such, rather than having people on the board running it from their hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 At the moment we are disgusted with the way the club and the executive have treated us and it is not all about cost. It is primarily the principle of what has gone on. We all feel that the fans are only as good as the money that can be extracted and we want no part of it. The idea that we all held of Saints being a family club and that we were all in it together is no more and it is very doubtful that we will ever return under the present regime concession or no concession. However i am personally of the opinion that the club is being run with a sale in the future at a massive profit the main aim so never say never. Sadly I do not share the optimism for the future that is widespread on this forum. I feel that many good and true fans are being mislead as to the true intentions of the present executive. It could be that future buyers will be true Saints fans and will return to past values. If that turns out to be the case I will be at the front of the queue. Yes, because the football club has never been run as a business before, with the fans identified as customers, have they? So what if the club gets sold in the future. Its been sold before, and will definitely be sold again at some point. Who cares? Do you support the club for the owners? Of course not; it's what happens on the pitch that counts. I find all of this mock-outrage at the way the club is run a bit ridiculous; if you don't want to go, don't go. And if you don't want to go, why ***** and moan to everyone about how unfair it all is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andoverian Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 Kraken your offensive remark referring to our opinion as mock outrage is sadly typical of so many on here when they disagree. y You are right about one thing we wont go but make no mistake I have as much right as you to express my opinion. After all isn't that what a proper forum is all about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 At the moment we are disgusted with the way the club and the executive have treated us and it is not all about cost. It is primarily the principle of what has gone on. We all feel that the fans are only as good as the money that can be extracted and we want no part of it. The idea that we all held of Saints being a family club and that we were all in it together is no more and it is very doubtful that we will ever return under the present regime concession or no concession. However i am personally of the opinion that the club is being run with a sale in the future at a massive profit the main aim so never say never. Sadly I do not share the optimism for the future that is widespread on this forum. I feel that many good and true fans are being mislead as to the true intentions of the present executive. It could be that future buyers will be true Saints fans and will return to past values. If that turns out to be the case I will be at the front of the queue. When you say the club will hopefully return to past values in years to come I assume you are talking about the values held by the club, or its board, up to the early 80's and not after then, because if you are I have no desire for the club to ever be run by people like Guy Askham again !! If you are talking about the George Reader's of this world then fine but I fear that type of gentleman is no longer present in any club, let alone Southampton. Dave Whelan at Wigan is possibly the closest you will come to that old school. I do sympathise with the increase the 60-65 age bracket have suffered, indeed I e mailed the club and expressed my opinion that those in that age range on the database that are already Season Ticket Holders should be ring fenced and treated as over 65's until the time came they were physically that age. May I remind you, as I was reminded by a friend of mine who is in the 60-65 bracket, when Cortese and Markus came into the club that is when, in the first season, ticket prices for Season Tickets were cut dramatically and I believe the OAP rate was dropped from 65 to 60. So for two seasons you have had your tickets at a comparative bargain. The status quo for OAP prices has now simply been returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 Kraken your offensive remark referring to our opinion as mock outrage is sadly typical of so many on here when they disagree. y You are right about one thing we wont go but make no mistake I have as much right as you to express my opinion. After all isn't that what a proper forum is all about Andoverian, apologies, I was perhaps harsh. However, I do stand by the sentiment of my statement. My point is this; if you don't want, or can't afford a season ticket, don't buy one. I don't understand the likes of those two characters in the Echo who made the point about parking charges and took their season tickets back. Fair enough if you want to do that; but why then make an issue of it in the local paper, putting on a ridiculous sad face for the headline picture? This forum (and others) sadly become an extention of that type of reaction, which is why I classify it as mock-outrage. I pay money to watch Saints; a lot of the time I don't particulrly agree with many of the business decisions made by the management, but I just feel to let that get in front of my enjoyment of a Saturday afternoon's football is a tad silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 I find all of this mock-outrage at the way the club is run a bit ridiculous; if you don't want to go, don't go. And if you don't want to go, why ***** and moan to everyone about how unfair it all is. Well said my friend. Well said. We were owned by ''fans'' of the club before and look where that put us. At the end of the day I prefer being run as a business as such, rather than having people on the board running it from their hearts. And to you sir. Well said. Fans should do one thing. Support. Not get involved in operational matters. What a ****ing disaster it was when certain people forgot their place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 I do sympathise with the increase the 60-65 age bracket have suffered, indeed I e mailed the club and expressed my opinion that those in that age range on the database that are already Season Ticket Holders should be ring fenced and treated as over 65's until the time came they were physically that age. I think the majority feel that way but some seem instant on missing out despite still being able to get season tickets, albeit in The Chapel, for the princely sum of £16 per game. Ultimately they will be the ones that dip out and that's sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andoverian Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 (edited) Beatlesaint you make a good point about what has gone on in recent years but I do go back a long way and I miss the days when fans were held in high regard and not treated as some form of cash cow with little or no respect. There have been plenty of posters on this site complaining about the way the club customer services has dealt with fans in the last few years. In my opinion that is symptomatic of the way this club now regards its customers. I would suggest that Norwich is a good example of how supporters should be treated. Delia wears her heart on her sleeve, loves the club and consequently carries the fans with her. They sold a massive number of season tickets for this season way before they achieved promotion. I accept your comments ref concessions but my point all along is not that the age limit should be raised but it should indeed be ringfenced for existing senior season ticket holders many of whom had been paid up fans for decades. Is there anyone who would be happy with a 72% hike in the price from one season to another. Edited 9 July, 2011 by Andoverian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmusicdude Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 Yes, because the football club has never been run as a business before, with the fans identified as customers, have they? So what if the club gets sold in the future. Its been sold before, and will definitely be sold again at some point. Who cares? Do you support the club for the owners? Of course not; it's what happens on the pitch that counts. I find all of this mock-outrage at the way the club is run a bit ridiculous; if you don't want to go, don't go. And if you don't want to go, why ***** and moan to everyone about how unfair it all is. yes how dare he have a diff opinion to you the almighty one .. get a grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Donovan Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 I am extremely glad you haven't renewed, you seem like a complete d!ck. Southampton Football Club is a business, not your "buddy". It isn't here to do you any favours so please don't take personal offence when the chairman doesn't call you to find out how you day was and what you're having for dinner. What exactly is your biggest gripe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 I am extremely glad you haven't renewed, you seem like a complete d!ck. Southampton Football Club is a business, not your "buddy". It isn't here to do you any favours so please don't take personal offence when the chairman doesn't call you to find out how you day was and what you're having for dinner. What exactly is your biggest gripe? At a guess I'd say the 72% price hike for the previously discounted prime seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 I see this has decended into the usual swearing at other faceless posters!! Any ideas on amounts sold then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 yes how dare he have a diff opinion to you the almighty one .. get a grip Read the clarification, genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 Beatlesaint you make a good point about what has gone on in recent years but I do go back a long way and I miss the days when fans were held in high regard and not treated as some form of cash cow with little or no respect. There have been plenty of posters on this site complaining about the way the club customer services has dealt with fans in the last few years. In my opinion that is symptomatic of the way this club now regards its customers. I would suggest that Norwich is a good example of how supporters should be treated. Delia wears her heart on her sleeve, loves the club and consequently carries the fans with her. They sold a massive number of season tickets for this season way before they achieved promotion. I accept your comments ref concessions but my point all along is not that the age limit should be raised but it should indeed be ringfenced for existing senior season ticket holders many of whom had been paid up fans for decades. Is there anyone who would be happy with a 72% hike in the price from one season to another. That really was a long time ago though. In the current climate the charges for the 60-65 age group is very tough on those on fixed or in many cases declining incomes and trying to scrape what they can to top up their savings. But, there are also a percentage of fans in that bracket who have higher incomes than many of us and have very nice pensions thank you very much. The failure of the club to adequately explain this increase is indefensible, and for many the extra few hundred pounds is simply unaffordable when getting hit from rising costs from all sides. Somebody in the club must have done some Marketing Research (of see what i did there) and decided that a higher percentage of the 60-65 bracket ARE better off and could afford it. (I think that the whole thing sucks BTW) BUT, and it really is a big BUT. One thing I have learnt is that watching football and Saints and having a season Ticket for many many years is something I took for granted. Now I can only get to see Saints play between one and three times a season. From experience I can tell you that there is never a truer set of words than "You don't know what you've got until it's gone". You cannot afford an ST because of the rises and the economy, fair enough. But 1) Don't stop going and 2) Don't be such a fool as to thing that it is EVER going to go back to what you remember from "The Golden Years" in your or anyone on here's lifetime. The ONLY way it will go back? Kill Satellite Television completely and that ain't gonna happen. But to stop going altogether as some gesture against the evil of "Big Business" Don't be a bunch of idiots these next seasons are our best and most exciting prospects for decades To Imagine anything other than meeting NC face to face will change anything? Oh but you won't be ST Holders so none of you will get invited to dinner... Don't be a bunch of twerps - you lose your only way to make a difference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 The 60-65 price hike does stink, if I was hit with a £300 rise I would tell them to go poke it out of principle. My Dad's mate has had a season ticket for over 30 years and he's not going to go any more and I don't blame him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Donovan Posted 9 July, 2011 Share Posted 9 July, 2011 The 60-65 price hike does stink, if I was hit with a £300 rise I would tell them to go poke it out of principle. My Dad's mate has had a season ticket for over 30 years and he's not going to go any more and I don't blame him. If he's had a season ticket for 30 years he should be used to paying for it!! We are football club, not a charity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 I don't object per se to the rise for the 60-65 age group. This demographic is no longer particularly poor. I do think the club should have had the courage and the decency to explain their rationale though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 The 60-65 price hike does stink, if I was hit with a £300 rise I would tell them to go poke it out of principle. My Dad's mate has had a season ticket for over 30 years and he's not going to go any more and I don't blame him. Then again if I'd have had a quid for everyone that I know who's going to give up smoking,drinking or sell the car and get a bike every time fags,booze and petrol have gone up in the budget .....well I'd be even more filthy rich than I already am by now. :):) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andoverian Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 The 60-65 price hike does stink, if I was hit with a £300 rise I would tell them to go poke it out of principle. My Dad's mate has had a season ticket for over 30 years and he's not going to go any more and I don't blame him.Exactly our point. Sorry if some of you dont agree and from some posters thanks for the abuse but thats why we have decided to pack up. In my case after 57 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSarah Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 Is the ticket ofice open today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 Is the ticket ofice open today? Very much doubt it. Might be worth seeing if they are staying open later during this week coming as I went down at 18:30pm on Tuesday and there wasn't a single person in front of me. T'was lovely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 Lots of moral outrages being expressed at 57 i am not effected by the 72% increase but i wonder what all those who are giving stick to those effect would have done if the whole fan base had had a 70% increase applied to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 At the moment we are disgusted with the way the club and the executive have treated us and it is not all about cost. It is primarily the principle of what has gone on. We all feel that the fans are only as good as the money that can be extracted and we want no part of it. The idea that we all held of Saints being a family club and that we were all in it together is no more and it is very doubtful that we will ever return under the present regime concession or no concession. However i am personally of the opinion that the club is being run with a sale in the future at a massive profit the main aim so never say never. Sadly I do not share the optimism for the future that is widespread on this forum. I feel that many good and true fans are being mislead as to the true intentions of the present executive. It could be that future buyers will be true Saints fans and will return to past values. If that turns out to be the case I will be at the front of the queue. by the way you have been treated do you mean the changing the age on the concession and therefore having to pay full price? not belittling the increase just asking whether something else. must be disappointing, particularly without warning, -not sure where you sit but would another part of the ground ease the increase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 I had a ST for 30 or more years but gave it up in '96 when the reverse take over happened and Guy Askham, LM, Souness and others became rich at our expense, that wasn't putting fans first! Now I've just got an ST again because the Club is being run properly ...and winning matches after the years of gloom...what a daft time to give up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 I had a ST for 30 or more years but gave it up in '96 when the reverse take over happened and Guy Askham, LM, Souness and others became rich at our expense, that wasn't putting fans first! Now I've just got an ST again because the Club is being run properly ...and winning matches after the years of gloom...what a daft time to give up! well maybe..but after you gave up your ST we had 10 years of Pl football, a really good team that got to the cup final , and a new stadium to move to along the way , so some might say your decision might not have been the best. if NC is really drawing £1.2 m pa( probably equivalent to around £75 per ST) whilst putting ST prices up substantially...well thats hardly putting the fans first, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 A bit off topic but can someone confirm/deny for me? Heard Brighton have sold 18000? I know it's a new stadium and all but that's bloody fantastic if true O.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 I think there is quite a bit of over-glamourising the past, going on here. A lot of guff about Saints being a family club. Did being a family mean writing to 20% of you once in the summer, asking for money and then making the rest of you stand out in the open in all weathers. Dont recall any great lines of communication coming from the board during the sixties and seventies and it took until we got to Wembley for a club shop to open and that was pretty limited. Before that, as a kid, if you wanted even a replica shirt, forget it. Ditto tickets for away games. Like others on here, I do not agree with the absence of notice for the changes, but as someone in the 50-60 age bracket, I did not agree with the concession being reduced to 60 in the first place. I respect Andoverian's opinion, but not his rational. It wasn't any better in "the good ol' days" in fact it was a great deal worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 A bit off topic but can someone confirm/deny for me? Heard Brighton have sold 18000? I know it's a new stadium and all but that's bloody fantastic if true O.o They have, very good but not that surprising really. Promotion, new stadium and adult ST prices of £395 for anyone (whether renewing or new customers) understandably proved very attractive. Shame the ground is a bit out in the wilderness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 At the end of the day we are gearing up for Prem football and it's simply not feasible to have large swathes of prime seating in a 32k stadium flogged off at a heavily discounted price. The end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 A bit off topic but can someone confirm/deny for me? Heard Brighton have sold 18000? I know it's a new stadium and all but that's bloody fantastic if true O.o with a 22K capacity an the obligation to offer visiting teams 10% ish of the tickets it means that for most matches non ST holders won't get a look in,hence the rush to buy them.Like us at the Dell in the 90s really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 with a 22K capacity an the obligation to offer visiting teams 10% ish of the tickets it means that for most matches non ST holders won't get a look in,hence the rush to buy them.Like us at the Dell in the 90s really. Still, it explains why they can throw money around this window with 7mil coming in at the right time to get some half decent players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 10 July, 2011 Share Posted 10 July, 2011 With all the complaints on here and in the press re: No renewal letter or email encouraging continued support for the club No early bird incentive Large price increase Loss of concession 60-65 (that's me!) No half season tickets Installment plan difficulties I wonder if it's possible that we will end up with fewer ST holders than last year? I'm not convinced the attraction of championship will bring in many newbies or bring back some of the strays. My mates were in a 45 min queue yesterday morning to renew their STs. There will be a decent take up I'm sure, only if to secure tickets to both skate games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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