dune Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 from: Carolyn Bourne to: heidi withers subject: your lack of manners Here are a few examples of your lack of manners: When you are a guest in another's house, you do not declare what you will and will not eat - unless you are positively allergic to something. You do not remark that you do not have enough food. You do not start before everyone else. You do not take additional helpings without being invited to by your host. When a guest in another's house, you do not lie in bed until late morning in households that rise early - you fall in line with house norms. You should never ever insult the family you are about to join at any time and most definitely not in public. I gather you passed this off as a joke but the reaction in the pub was one of shock, not laughter. You regularly draw attention to yourself. Perhaps you should ask yourself why. No one gets married in a castle unless they own it. It is brash, celebrity style behaviour. I understand your parents are unable to contribute very much towards the cost of your wedding. (There is nothing wrong with that except that convention is such that one might presume they would have saved over the years for their daughters' marriages.) If this is the case, it would be most ladylike and gracious to lower your sights and have a modest wedding as befits both your incomes. One could be accused of thinking that Heidi Withers must be patting herself on the back for having caught a most eligible young man. I pity Freddie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 Have to say, that girl must have been a bit of a chav. Fair play and very funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 Have to say, that girl must have been a bit of a chav. Fair play and very funny. Diabetic, hence the food requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 Both the girl and the mother-in-law seem like knobheads to me. It displays an incredible lack of manners to put together and send that email, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 2 July, 2011 When a guest in another's house, you do not lie in bed until late morning in households that rise early - you fall in line with house norms. She's spot on about this. The future daughter in law has no manners if she layed in bed all morning when everyone else was up. She sounds a right slob to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 When a guest in another's house, you do not lie in bed until late morning in households that rise early - you fall in line with house norms. She's spot on about this. The future daughter in law has no manners if she layed in bed all morning when everyone else was up. She sounds a right slob to me. I agree with you on this. you do not declare what you will and will not eat I don't think this is fair though. Unless of course she just flat refused to eat all meals and wanted something completely different. But saying you don't like, say, mushrooms is fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 The Mother is quite hot, you would wouldn't you? Wonder what the etiquette is for spit or swallow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 The bride to be's father has hit back: In the stinging repost, Alan Withers, 64, said the renowned horticulturist ‘has her head stuck so far up her own a*** she doesn’t know whether to speak or f**t.’ I'd like to be at that wedding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JackFrost Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 I'd have emailed back something like, "Please consult a specialist team of doctors to surgically remove your head from your own posterior as soon as possible. Once removed please seek psychological treatment so you can be rehabilitated to act like an adult. Once the treatment is fully completed I am hopeful you may get a realistic picture of who you actually are" Sounds like a toff meeting that Lauren "am I bovvered" person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 Saw the story in the Snail, thought it funny. Then the same evening down the pub with some mates & the GF she gets a call from home. The father of her Godson had just hung himself leaving his widow & 4 kids (with no life assurance) under 10 shortly after being "harangued" yet again by his mother about how useless he was. Suddenly the subject of "older family members" pursuing their wishes onto their Children became one of reality. I now hold a lot of bad thoughts about what should happen to people like the mother in Poland (and to some extent) the one who wrote that email. Thanks (fellow TSW member) & mates for the kind words & support that evening when the disaster struck my better half. If I could I'd take the stupid cow who wrote that email to the funeral to see what that sort of thing can lead to, but I can't so I'll stick with calling her a stupid cow and hope her life is ruined for a year and she learns how to be more human and tolerant of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 Sad news for you and your GF Phil condolences even though we have never met. Who would like to be in the position of the groom now ? He will be under so much pressure from his wifes family and his own. I do not envy him one bit. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingbattigger Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 Parents should learn when to butt out of their childrens lives and let them get on with it. DP my condolences to your GF and yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 Cheers guys. The GF was "more than" shocked and the crazy thing is that we'd met the family only two weeks ago, me being an imbecile with languages meant I never even caught any nuances of unhappiness or concerns but the GF says the "I guess you'd have to call it Parental abuse" even to a 30 something year old had been going on for a while but nobody could expect it to have that sort of impact on someone. As for the Groom in the email story guess we will find out how strong the bonds of Love can truly be. He has a tough call though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 Stupid cow, totally removed from the 21st century. Please and thank you, yes; holding doors open certainly, but laying in?!? Who the **** cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 (edited) Sorry to hear Phil. However I feel there are a couple of basics that a woman should adhere to if she wants to join the family, and the whole list of the mother in law is what I would demand from a lady. I recently had a female lodger who fitted the exact description of the 'inlaws' email; so I know where she's coming from. I'm no prude. Just do the basics and we'll be fine. Otherwise **** off yesterday. Edited 3 July, 2011 by Draino76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachcombers Windowsill Posted 3 July, 2011 Share Posted 3 July, 2011 "I understand your parents are unable to contribute very much towards the cost of your wedding. (There is nothing wrong with that except that convention is such that one might presume they would have saved over the years for their daughters' marriages.)" Silly old bint. Get over yourself. Utter snobbery at it's finest. Sorry to hear that Phil, hope you and your girlfriend are okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 3 July, 2011 Share Posted 3 July, 2011 Isn't a relative of one of the families a wedding planner? Rumour has it it has all been done for publicity. Nooooooooo! Surely not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 3 July, 2011 Share Posted 3 July, 2011 If it's not a fake the mother in law has serious issues. Sounds like the typical English snobby c*nt most people despise, I expect the girl was winding her up on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 3 July, 2011 Share Posted 3 July, 2011 a big publicity stunt by both sides to get cash out of the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 July, 2011 Share Posted 3 July, 2011 Stupid cow, totally removed from the 21st century. Please and thank you, yes; holding doors open certainly, but laying in?!? Who the **** cares. Shocking and symptomatic of the results of a Labour government. As to the email; the girl has underlined the mother-in-laws central point quite perfectly by forwarding the email, a private piece of correspondence, to her friends. It shows the sort of company she keeps that this then entered the public domain. Classis Facebook idiot mentality. Verbal and emotional diarrhoea and insecurity. Whether a rancid old sow or not, the old bint clearly has a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 July, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 July, 2011 Stupid cow, totally removed from the 21st century. Please and thank you, yes; holding doors open certainly, but laying in?!? Who the **** cares. You should care. When we've got employers saying they'd rarther give work to immigrants than those who've grown up in this country. Such slobbish behaviour is symptomatic of todays youth being lacking in an industrious ethic. Also it's bad manners. You need to get your act together IMO because it's hardly a good attitude for a teacher to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 3 July, 2011 Share Posted 3 July, 2011 Shocking and symptomatic of the results of a Labour government. As to the email; the girl has underlined the mother-in-laws central point quite perfectly by forwarding the email, a private piece of correspondence, to her friends. It shows the sort of company she keeps that this then entered the public domain. Classis Facebook idiot mentality. Verbal and emotional diarrhoea and insecurity. Whether a rancid old sow or not, the old bint clearly has a point. Or the beauty of today's technology being used to expose a rancid old sow for who she is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mao Cap Posted 3 July, 2011 Share Posted 3 July, 2011 Ha, the silly season has landed. So glad I don't have to bother with reading through this made-up non-news crap anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 3 July, 2011 Share Posted 3 July, 2011 a big publicity stunt by both sides to get cash out of the press. I can't really see dubai phil sinking that low, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 3 July, 2011 Share Posted 3 July, 2011 When a guest in another's house, you do not lie in bed until late morning in households that rise early - you fall in line with house norms. She's spot on about this. The future daughter in law has no manners if she layed in bed all morning when everyone else was up. She sounds a right slob to me. what if she'd been out doing mdma all night like you in your youth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 July, 2011 Share Posted 3 July, 2011 what if she'd been out doing mdma all night like you in your youth? The polite thing would be for them all to get beaned off their tits together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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