Danbert Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 Alternatively, by saying we have agreed a fee with chelsea, it is showing our intent. Kind of masks diappointment of player not signing by showing that we are in for players! Its a web of intrigue I think this is more likely. To me it indicates Cork isn't interested.
patred44 Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 we had our bid accepted weeks ago, Chelsea said yes, but Cork no.
hypochondriac Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 we had our bid accepted weeks ago, Chelsea said yes, but Cork no. So if that is the case, why bother making it public? If it doesn't happy now and we don't get someone in at least as good, many people are going to be p*ssed off.
S-Clarke Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 So if that is the case, why bother making it public? If it doesn't happy now and we don't get someone in at least as good, many people are going to be p*ssed off. Well exactly, but we have fans that would moan either way. This is exactly why transfers should be kept silent until 100%, and i'm fairley confident this will happen as Cork has no where else to go and he's on record stating that he wants to get it sorted for pre-season.
thorpie the sinner Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 So if that is the case, why bother making it public? If it doesn't happy now and we don't get someone in at least as good, many people are going to be p*ssed off. I agree with Pat! I think they mentioned it to emphasise the kind of player we are bidding on! Got to face it, Corky is waiting on better options otherwise it would have been announced!
thorpie the sinner Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 Well exactly, but we have fans that would moan either way. This is exactly why transfers should be kept silent until 100%, and i'm fairley confident this will happen as Cork has no where else to go and he's on record stating that he wants to get it sorted for pre-season. Mark my words Clarkey. he will be off to leicester by the end of the day lol!! They have definitely nicked our transfer list!!!
Midfield_General Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 Where is this actually being reported? There's nothing on that Twitter link, and nothing on the OS
LGTL Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 On my OfficialSaints twitter link it's still on there, also on Sibley's. There are issues sometimes on twitter updates, but it's still there for me. As has been mentioned, it would be extremely wierd for Saints to talk about it if it was dead in the water. Especially as they would have known for the last two weeks.
S-Clarke Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 Where is this actually being reported? There's nothing on that Twitter link, and nothing on the OS From Adkins, check out the interview on saints player.
Matthew Le God Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 (edited) Where is this actually being reported? There's nothing on that Twitter link, and nothing on the OS It is on the OS and BBC Radio Solent's twitter, watch the video of the interview with Nigel Adkins on Saints Player. Also mentioned here and in a number of other online papers... http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/no-arsenal-offer-for-alex-chamberlain-say-southampton-2305396.html Edited 1 July, 2011 by Matthew Le God
Ado Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 I had heard before the U21s that it was a done deal and he had bought a audi R8 with his £200k signing on fee, but as i have low post count thought id be ridiculed as a WUM
benjii Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 we had our bid accepted weeks ago, Chelsea said yes, but Cork no. When is Martin from Norwich signing? Will he be living with O'Neill?
Thedelldays Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 we had our bid accepted weeks ago, Chelsea said yes, but Cork no. Have you ever been right?
patred44 Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 (edited) Adkins only said we had a bid accepted by Chelsea for Cork, he didn't say he was likely to sign. If he was going to sign Adkins would have stayed silent. In any case Jack Cork has openly admitted publicly he is interested only in West Hams offer. It's been in all the press,and on all the relevant forums including on here. Adkins was only trying use the Cork bid as an example of intent Edited 1 July, 2011 by patred44
Matthew Le God Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 In any case Jack Cork has openly admits publicly he interested only in West Hams offer. It's been in all the press. Source for that? I don't recall him admitting publicly anything about West Ham anywhere in the press over the last few months.
NickG Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 in any case jack cork has openly admitted publicly he is interested only in west hams offer. It's been in all the press,and on all the relevant forums including on here. link?
Matthew Le God Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 It does, because it smelt to me like bullsh!t.
revolution saint Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 Adkins only said we had a bid accepted by Chelsea for Cork, he didn't say he was likely to sign. If he was going to sign Adkins would have stayed silent. In any case Jack Cork has openly admitted publicly he is interested only in West Hams offer. It's been in all the press,and on all the relevant forums including on here. Adkins was only trying use the Cork bid as an example of intent I have to say that I think you're probably right. I'd love Cork to sign but can't help thinking this is, as you say, a statement to show we're active and the type of player we're interested in. NC seems too cautious to allow a deal to be jeopardised by leaking it too the press. Only reason I can see for mentioning Cork is if he knows he definitely will sign......or he definitely won't Hope it's the former.
Matthew Le God Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 Jack Cork's agent would be hawking his client out to every club in England that might have him. They would all be aware of the situation, Adkins mentioning it today would make little difference.
revolution saint Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 why would it jeopardise it? Confirms our interest and alerts other clubs to sort something out earlier? Could be a whole host of reasons - you're best off asking NC as he's the one operating that policy up till now.
patred44 Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 one of many links two weeks ago http://londonthenews.com/news/Sports/20110618/23311580/West-Ham-interested-in-Chelsea-midfielder-Cork.htm " Cork is keen to move across London and join Sam Allardyce's new-look squad."
hypochondriac Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 one of many links two weeks ago http://londonthenews.com/news/Sports/20110618/23311580/West-Ham-interested-in-Chelsea-midfielder-Cork.htm TBF it doesn't say that he would ONLY join West Ham.
S-Clarke Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 one of many links two weeks ago http://londonthenews.com/news/Sports/20110618/23311580/West-Ham-interested-in-Chelsea-midfielder-Cork.htm " Cork is keen to move across London and join Sam Allardyce's new-look squad." Is that it? If he was that keen it would have been done by now.
NickG Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 Confirms our interest and alerts other clubs to sort something out earlier? Could be a whole host of reasons - you're best off asking NC as he's the one operating that policy up till now. press reported our interest weeks ago Cork's agent would be aware, and also aware if any other clubs likely and would share the info in best interests of his client can't think of any reason?? will be polite but we haven't got a clue about any 'policy' NC has, likely to be get best players, who club can work with at price willing to play??
NickG Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 Adkins only said we had a bid accepted by Chelsea for Cork, he didn't say he was likely to sign. If he was going to sign Adkins would have stayed silent. In any case Jack Cork has openly admitted publicly he is interested only in West Hams offer. It's been in all the press,and on all the relevant forums including on here. Adkins was only trying use the Cork bid as an example of intent one of many links two weeks ago http://londonthenews.com/news/Sports/20110618/23311580/West-Ham-interested-in-Chelsea-midfielder-Cork.htm " Cork is keen to move across London and join Sam Allardyce's new-look squad." lol!!! open and publically = uncredited comment by journo in West Ham's local paper only interested in West Ham = keen to move across London. Don't think you even convinced yourself!
patred44 Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 well, he has NEVER let it be known he is keen on signing for us, despite our bid being on the table a week before. Face it if he were interested in us he would not let be known publicly he was keen on another club, would he.
Matthew Le God Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 one of many links two weeks ago http://londonthenews.com/news/Sports/20110618/23311580/West-Ham-interested-in-Chelsea-midfielder-Cork.htm " Cork is keen to move across London and join Sam Allardyce's new-look squad." That article does not prove what you claimed. You said... "In any case Jack Cork has openly admitted publicly he is interested only in West Hams offer. It's been in all the press,and on all the relevant forums including on here." - That article is from the non-reliable source that is Tribal Football. - Nor is it a number of sources as you claimed and "all in the press". - Nor is it an actual quote from Cork publicly admitting anything. It is completely unsubstantiated.
krissyboy31 Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 one of many links two weeks ago http://londonthenews.com/news/Sports/20110618/23311580/West-Ham-interested-in-Chelsea-midfielder-Cork.htm " Cork is keen to move across London and join Sam Allardyce's new-look squad." It never ceases to amaze me how with some posters, what they read in the tabloids is gospel, as long as it fits with their agenda but if it doesn't, it's bollix!!
revolution saint Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 press reported our interest weeks ago Cork's agent would be aware, and also aware if any other clubs likely and would share the info in best interests of his client can't think of any reason?? will be polite but we haven't got a clue about any 'policy' NC has, likely to be get best players, who club can work with at price willing to play?? Of course I don't have a clue really, none of us have, it's just my opinion that it's less likely Cork signs than him signing. I really hope I'm wrong. Bloody hell - you lot take this seriously don't you? It was just my take on it.
NickG Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 well, he has NEVER let it be known he is keen on signing for us, despite our bid being on the table a week before. Face it if he were interested in us he would not let be known publicly he was keen on another club, would he. he has never let it be known he doesn't, or that he wants to go elsewhere - as far as I can see,
NickG Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 Of course I don't have a clue really, none of us have, it's just my opinion that it's less likely Cork signs than him signing. I really hope I'm wrong. Bloody hell - you lot take this seriously don't you? It was just my take on it. ffs take it seriously! This is a football forum! you maybe right in that it maybe a statement of our intent and he may not sign, just don't think comments today will effect it
patred44 Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2004904/West-Ham-swoop-Chelseas-Jack-Cork.html http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/burnley/news/9099002.Burnley_target_Cork__left_in_limbo_/ http://article.wn.com/view/2011/06/18/West_Ham_swoop_for_Chelseas_England_U21_international_Cork/
Matthew Le God Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2004904/West-Ham-swoop-Chelseas-Jack-Cork.html http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/burnley/news/9099002.Burnley_target_Cork__left_in_limbo_/ http://article.wn.com/view/2011/06/18/West_Ham_swoop_for_Chelseas_England_U21_international_Cork/ You are making this too easy now! None of those links have direct quotes from the player as you originally suggested. They are just rehashes of the same article that are completely unsubstantiated and do not count as evidence of any real note.
NickG Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2004904/West-Ham-swoop-Chelseas-Jack-Cork.html http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/burnley/news/9099002.Burnley_target_Cork__left_in_limbo_/ http://article.wn.com/view/2011/06/18/West_Ham_swoop_for_Chelseas_England_U21_international_Cork/ read them for you, its not in any of them
Faz Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 Having been on duty with the U21s Cork has an additional week before reporting in for pre-season. The deal won't formally be anounced until he's back for the press jamboree. IMO
revolution saint Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 ffs take it seriously! This is a football forum! you maybe right in that it maybe a statement of our intent and he may not sign, just don't think comments today will effect it Hmm maybe I need to work on taking it more seriously...... Anyway to be pedantic I never suggested the comments today would affect the chances of Cork signing. My opinion was that by releasing details of our interest it indicated that we probably knew he wouldn't sign. That is just my opinion though.....I've nothing to back that up.
Crab Lungs Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 Cork is definitely waiting for WHU to have a bid accepted, IMO
NickG Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 Cork is definitely waiting for WHU to have a bid accepted, IMO he may well, or bids from other clubs - why not see all your options
The9 Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 Fancy a conspiracy ? http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/ProfilesDetail/0,,10280~37736,00.html
View From The Top Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 Cork is definitely waiting for WHU to have a bid accepted, IMO Well that makes sense.
View From The Top Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 Fancy a conspiracy ? http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/ProfilesDetail/0,,10280~37736,00.html Oooooooooo. Good find.
NickG Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 Fancy a conspiracy ? http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/ProfilesDetail/0,,10280~37736,00.html bizarre!
The9 Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 Mind you, Oscar Gobern's still on there too... http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/ProfilesDetail/0,,10280~45372,00.html I think it's probably an old link to his one time profile, with automatically updated data from the content management system used by most of the FL clubs for their websites. But then again, I may be awesome.
LGTL Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 Why would they do that if an announcement wasn't imminent I wonder...
NickG Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 says loan, reckon its some cock up link from last time updated centrally???
The9 Posted 1 July, 2011 Posted 1 July, 2011 says loan, reckon its some cock up link from last time updated centrally??? Agreed. Though if you REALLY want a conspiracy : http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/players/jack-cork/profile-48
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