Itchen_block4 Posted 1 July, 2011 Share Posted 1 July, 2011 Probably the most technically gifted player I have ever seen that has played their entire career outside the top 2 tiers. Great news, must mean Adkins is a fan and with his backing and a good pre-season behind him, next season could well be a very good season for him. I haven't felt as confident as I do now when we get a penalty since I did when MLT was playing. The biggest surprise for me is that it's taken him this long to get there. He doesn't rely on his pace, so I think he can play well into his 30s. More than 10 years if he goes on like Teddy Sheringham! He's an excellent all-round striker and team player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 July, 2011 Share Posted 1 July, 2011 Probably the most technically gifted player I have ever seen that has played their entire career outside the top 2 tiers. Great news, must mean Adkins is a fan and with his backing and a good pre-season behind him, next season could well be a very good season for him. I haven't felt as confident as I do now when we get a penalty since I did when MLT was playing. Two words : Lee Trundle. You're right on the penalties though. Can't say the Lambert extension has had any kind of impact on me at all - at the moment he's an unproven commodity in the Championship and he's on a downturn of form compared to 2009/10. When we added Lallana for another 4 years I was absolutely delirious. This ? A little "meh" for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 July, 2011 Share Posted 1 July, 2011 Under. Also this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 57 goals in 2 seasons, class act and very happy with this. Spot on Sussex Saint, when I heard that Rickie had signed a new three year deal I was over the moon!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 Can we please dump this bus b*ll*cks. I have a lot of respect for what Adkins has achieved but some of his statements make me cringe and the bus thing was the worst of the lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK_Phoey Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 just need to get Fonte and Schneiderlin on long term deals now and I will be well happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 Can we please dump this bus b*ll*cks. I have a lot of respect for what Adkins has achieved but some of his statements make me cringe and the bus thing was the worst of the lot. You are not alone in this thought. Well besides i have 'some' respect for what he has achieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 just need to get Fonte and Schneiderlin on long term deals now and I will be well happy agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 Can we please dump this bus b*ll*cks. I have a lot of respect for what Adkins has achieved but some of his statements make me cringe and the bus thing was the worst of the lot. he has done excellently but is a bit mad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 Bus Out !!!!....................FFS, the morons are on form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 he has done excellently but is a bit mad! He has done reasonably well,i will agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 maybe I set my standards to low, maybe best performing manager in the country was underachieving. hate to think what you would think if you were a posh fan with Fergie as your manger, 'done poorly' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 Can we please dump this bus b*ll*cks. I have a lot of respect for what Adkins has achieved but some of his statements make me cringe and the bus thing was the worst of the lot. better than slurring your words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 absolutely delighted with this news...lambert is technically brilliant and the last few months of last season we saw him develop into a better player....his movement around the box and dropping wide was very good at times..and he is very good at creating assists etc. top top player...great attitude too for me...get morgan and fonte on long term deals and we have a cracking few players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 (edited) Can we please dump this bus b*ll*cks. I have a lot of respect for what Adkins has achieved but some of his statements make me cringe and the bus thing was the worst of the lot. This. Although some of the morons on here wanted everyone to sing the Wheels on the bus. I think i would ban myself from ever attending SMS if this ever happened. Absolutely and completely embarassing and probably the most idiotic suggestion of all of the idiotic ideas for songs this forum has ever come up with. Edited 2 July, 2011 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 maybe I set my standards to low, maybe best performing manager in the country was underachieving. hate to think what you would think if you were a posh fan with Fergie as your manger, 'done poorly' ? With Fergies' resources to hand he did 'very' well to get them promoted. With What Adkins had at his disposal he he got the job done pretty well. Let's keep things in prospective and in context relevant to the achievement made, and how the task was made a little easier for some than others. Back on topic...good news about Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 What's wrong with the bus thing? It's just a bit of a light hearted joke you miserable b*stards! Great news about Rickie, our best striker for years and far more important player for us than some realise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 I don't have saintsplayer, but from the still pics on the articles on the OS, Lambo looks noticeably leaner than he did this time last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 With Fergies' resources to hand he did 'very' well to get them promoted. With What Adkins had at his disposal he he got the job done pretty well. Let's keep things in prospective and in context relevant to the achievement made, and how the task was made a little easier for some than others. Back on topic...good news about Lambert. suggest you look at the ex-championship squad that Fergie had which significantly underperformed compared to Adkins results. Truly believe you are trolling now as we both know he had a very good squad and we both know the results under pressure at the end of the season (W13D1L1) showed absolutely outstanding management skills (with players out). Agree to go back on thread but please stop trolling with this nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 (edited) suggest you look at the ex-championship squad that Fergie had which significantly underperformed compared to Adkins results. Truly believe you are trolling now as we both know he had a very good squad and we both know the results under pressure at the end of the season (W13D1L1) showed absolutely outstanding management skills (with players out). Agree to go back on thread but please stop trolling with this nonsense I applaude you stalwart defence of Adkins on virtually everthing he says and does. I really do,but it is somewhat blinkered in my view,which shows on many threads. We have differing views,i'm sure we will survive. Just because you do disagree it does not make my view any less valid,imo. Edited 2 July, 2011 by saint lard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 I applaude you stalwalt defence of Adkins on virtually everthing he says and does. I really do,but it is somewhat blinkered in my view,which shows on many threads. Hah, the eternal references to Posh and Darren Ferguson,Posh played much better after Ferguson returned, or at least I think facts would bear me our on that. Ferguson changed the central defensive pairing and brought back Zakuani which led to a net slowing of the number of goals they were conceding.I couldn't say exactly why that was but it certainly did the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 Hah, the eternal references to Posh and Darren Ferguson,Posh played much better after Ferguson returned, or at least I think facts would bear me our on that. Ferguson changed the central defensive pairing and brought back Zakuani which led to a net slowing of the number of goals they were conceding.I couldn't say exactly why that was but it certainly did the trick. when they appointed Fergie they were 4 points behind us with a game in hand (so 1 point to catch) , being a better manager and having forwards we can only dream of and not afford, he managed to finish 13 points behind us! Something doesn't make sense...a better manager, with Boyd, CMS, McCann, Mclean, Tomlin - and a better keeper than ours could get effectively 17 less points than us in the pressure part of the season??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 (edited) Out of all our players, arguably Lambert's going to have to adapt his game the most to thrive in the championship. Think he can do a v.effective job in a deeper position, creating chances for others and arguably he's most comfortable in this position; but just don't see him having the pace and movement on the floor or the presence and power in the air to really lead the line as he did in L1. Puts extra onus on getting in a proper front man for this level. Edited 2 July, 2011 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 when they appointed Fergie they were 4 points behind us with a game in hand (so 1 point to catch) , being a better manager and having forwards we can only dream of and not afford, he managed to finish 13 points behind us! Something doesn't make sense...a better manager, with Boyd, CMS, McCann, Mclean, Tomlin - and a better keeper than ours could get effectively 17 less points than us in the pressure part of the season??? I'm not knocking NA Nick, not in any way and don't forget that although Posh may have forwards we could only dream of we have a midfield that most NPC clubs let alone L1 can only dream of, Deano,Chappers,Morgan,Ox and Adam would walk into most NPC sides even though most of our supporters seem to spend their days dreaming of Danns,Cork and Howard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 (edited) Perhaps it the fact that Fergie got Posh to play with the width,pace and flair that was so very much touted by Adkins yet failed to deliver. Perhaps he should have adopted the same style as us..invariably hoof ball for at least 45 per game.Such a shame considering the technically better players we had playing a weaker opposition. They never played to their full potential consistantly,either game by game of half by half even. Edited 2 July, 2011 by saint lard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 Out of all our players, arguably Lambert's going to have to adapt his game the most to thrive in the championship. Think he can do a v.effective job in a deeper position, creating chances for others and arguably he's most comfortable in this position; but just don't see him having the pace and movement on the floor or the presence and power in the air to really lead the line as he did in L1. Puts extra onus on getting in a proper front man for this level. I think you're underestimating him. Look at Grant Holt and Steve Howard - they've both been very successful at Championship level without pace, and i'd argue that Lambert is better than both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 Out of all our players, arguably Lambert's going to have to adapt his game the most to thrive in the championship. Think he can do a v.effective job in a deeper position, creating chances for others and arguably he's most comfortable in this position; but just don't see him having the pace and movement on the floor or the presence and power in the air to really lead the line as he did in L1. Puts extra onus on getting in a proper front man for this level. Really?! You don't think he has presence in the air? I'd say if he decides he's going for the ball he's very rarely beaten to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 Perhaps it the fact that Fergie got Posh to play with the width,pace and flair that was so very much touted by Adkins yet failed to deliver. Perhaps he should have adopted the same style as us..invariably hoof ball for at least 45 per game.Such a shame considering the technically better players we had playing a weaker opposition. They never played to their full potential consistantly,either game by game of half by half even. Can't you make your attempts at WUM-ing a little less obvious / more subtle? This is so blatantly just written to try and get a reaction it's embarrassing. No one, not even you, are quite so stupid to really believe this bullsh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 After seeing the interview with him on player, I'd be happy with a team of 11 Rickie Lamberts. What a top bloke he is. He'll be rightly remembered as a Southampton legend at the end of this new contract. Great man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 Can't you make your attempts at WUM-ing a little less obvious / more subtle? This is so blatantly just written to try and get a reaction it's embarrassing. No one' date=' not even you, are quite so stupid to really believe this bullsh*t.[/quote'] my fault for biting. He knows you cannot fault Adkins last season but also knows i bite too easily. Doesn't even convince himself with the argument! Will ignore his trolling now for the good of the forum! Hope we are having same debate next season with Adkins being best in league again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 my fault for biting. He knows you cannot fault Adkins last season but also knows i bite too easily. Doesn't even convince himself with the argument! Will ignore his trolling now for the good of the forum! Hope we are having same debate next season with Adkins being best in league again. OMG. Especially to your closing sentence. Actually you have changed stance,which is something i suppose,originaly you have been quoting some stats that state he was only second best to Sir Alex Ferguson. Look at the bigger picture, for gods sake. And put it into context if you can,please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 sorry if not clear - meant best in the league we were in, not the whole of football league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 OMG. . are you are 12 year old girl by the way?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 I think you're underestimating him. Look at Grant Holt and Steve Howard - they've both been very successful at Championship level without pace, and i'd argue that Lambert is better than both of them. But he's a different player - much better on the ball but less good in the air. Not saying he hasn't got a role to play; just that I have doubts whether he'll be able to lead the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 (edited) Really?! You don't think he has presence in the air? I'd say if he decides he's going for the ball he's very rarely beaten to it. Yep- admittedly, its something I noticed while he was still injured - and I accept you don't need to jump bubka-esque heights to have presence (you can back in, stand still and make life awkward for defenders); but I still think Lambert is only above average in their air - he's no Grant Holt and Steve Howard- and those limits will be exposed in Championship, requiring us to alter our shape and style (fortunately Lambo has other attributes). Edited 2 July, 2011 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 This. Although some of the morons on here wanted everyone to sing the Wheels on the bus. I think i would ban myself from ever attending SMS if this ever happened. Absolutely and completely embarassing and probably the most idiotic suggestion of all of the idiotic ideas for songs this forum has ever come up with. If you've ever heard the Cortese song you will know that we've already plunged to a depth that cannot be beaten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 are you are 12 year old girl by the way?! No,just flabergasted at what you post sometimes. But it wasn't just the football league, you were comparing him to top flight managers also on occasions,coupled with some table or something. All very good putting stats next to names but does not put flesh on the bones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 watching the video, it does appear he's got himself in great shape, hopefully will add a new diemnsion to his game. top bloke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 No,just flabergasted at what you post sometimes. But it wasn't just the football league, you were comparing him to top flight managers also on occasions,coupled with some table or something. All very good putting stats next to names but does not put flesh on the bones. and you revert to teenage hysterics when flabergasted? The LMA compare him well across the leagues - their stats. He was easily best manager in league 1 last season. Admit you were wrong in your initial assessment and sure you will feel better about saints, go on its the big thing to do you are getting pretty isolated in your bizarre view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 and you revert to teenage hysterics when flabergasted? The LMA compare him well across the leagues - their stats. He was easily best manager in league 1 last season. Admit you were wrong in your initial assessment and sure you will feel better about saints, go on its the big thing to do you are getting pretty isolated in your bizarre view It's ridiculous to suggest that Adkins did an amazing job. He did what was expected of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 2 July, 2011 Share Posted 2 July, 2011 It's ridiculous to suggest that Adkins did an amazing job. He did what was expected of him. All i've seen Nick say is that Adkins was "faultless" in his performance. Which i'd agree with. And whilst he didn't (couldn't?) do an amazing job, I think it's still pretty amazing that he was statistically the best manager in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 July, 2011 Share Posted 3 July, 2011 if that was not an amazing job as manager I will guarantee you will be disappointed with every single season you support saints. look at where we were when he came in, how we did throughout the time he was with us, how he coped with the pressure of Huddersfield and the promotion push. If you were not impressed you are either lying as it does not fit with your agenda of criticsing the appointment (almost certainly the case), trolling, or will without a shadow of a doubt have a lifetime of disappointment as a saints fan. Either option I think you are a fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 3 July, 2011 Share Posted 3 July, 2011 (edited) It was never an 'amazing' job,what would have been amazing would be not gaining promotion with that squad and resources. And reference the 'pressure'well that is going to be nothing compared to what he will have to deal with this coming season.It was league one,many state we have a championship side already,that points to the conclusion we should have gained promotion.Except we did not perform as one,we looked very ordinary mostly.The quality of the players,many who were already here,carried us through to the end of the season,not nessessarily superb managerial nous.The test will be this season when we play in a more competative league,with sides equally if not better than us. Then Adkins will have to dig deep and get something extra out of the squad,only then can a judgment be made on his stature within the game.He has achieved very little thus far.Reallty check NickG please. Nothing revolutionary in my beliefs at all.Just an legitimete and valid opinion. He instilled some positive things in the squad,agreed,but he is not beyond reproach as you make out. He had it easy last season and how you can base that on your assumption he is the golden boy,still amazes me. But i don't think you are a fool,it's your opinion,just like tthe above is mine. You carry on with the personal insults if you think it enhances your belief. Edited 3 July, 2011 by saint lard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 3 July, 2011 Share Posted 3 July, 2011 It was never an 'amazing' job,what would have been amazing would be not gaining promotion with that squad and resources. And reference the 'pressure'well that is going to be nothing compared to what he will have to deal with this coming season.It was league one,many state we have a championship side already,that points to the conclusion we should have gained promotion.Except we did not perform as one,we looked very ordinary mostly.The quality of the players,many who were already here,carried us through to the end of the season,not nessessarily superb managerial nous.The test will be this season when we play in a more competative league,with sides equally if not better than us. Then Adkins will have to dig deep and get something extra out of the squad,only then can a judgment be made on his stature within the game.He has achieved very little thus far.Reallty check NickG please. Nothing revolutionary in my beliefs at all.Just an legitimete and valid opinion. He instilled some positive things in the squad,agreed,but he is not beyond reproach as you make out. He had it easy last season and how you can base that on your assumption he is the golden boy,still amazes me. But i don't think you are a fool,it's your opinion,just like tthe above is mine. You carry on with the personal insults if you think it enhances your belief. This is a regular refrain of yours, along with the complaint that we only ever played at all well for 45 minutes in any of our games. Yet I seem to remember you also bemoaning the fact that you hardly ever get to see any matches. How can you speak with such certainty about the level and quality of our performances, if you didn't actually see them? As it so happens, I don't get to many games myself. But those I did see last season were, for the most part, comfortable wins. As for the ones I wasn't at, I don't have first-hand knowledge, so I don't consider myself qualified to comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 3 July, 2011 Share Posted 3 July, 2011 Some people so desperately need saints to fail to massage their own battered egos it's scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 3 July, 2011 Share Posted 3 July, 2011 It was never an 'amazing' job,what would have been amazing would be not gaining promotion with that squad and resources. And reference the 'pressure'well that is going to be nothing compared to what he will have to deal with this coming season.It was league one,many state we have a championship side already,that points to the conclusion we should have gained promotion.Except we did not perform as one,we looked very ordinary mostly.The quality of the players,many who were already here,carried us through to the end of the season,not nessessarily superb managerial nous.The test will be this season when we play in a more competative league,with sides equally if not better than us. Then Adkins will have to dig deep and get something extra out of the squad,only then can a judgment be made on his stature within the game.He has achieved very little thus far.Reallty check NickG please. Nothing revolutionary in my beliefs at all.Just an legitimete and valid opinion. He instilled some positive things in the squad,agreed,but he is not beyond reproach as you make out. He had it easy last season and how you can base that on your assumption he is the golden boy,still amazes me. But i don't think you are a fool,it's your opinion,just like tthe above is mine. You carry on with the personal insults if you think it enhances your belief. Just think how brilliant it would be if Adkins did really badly this season and we got relegated. You'd be revered as a God on here for your prescience! Exciting! Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 3 July, 2011 Share Posted 3 July, 2011 I thought RL was joining the Skates, according to their fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 3 July, 2011 Share Posted 3 July, 2011 I thought RL was joining the Skates, according to their fans? To be fair, they also think Portsmouth is a nice place to live and a fish is a decent substitute for a lady, so I wouldn't take their words too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 3 July, 2011 Share Posted 3 July, 2011 (edited) Just think how brilliant it would be if Adkins did really badly this season and we got relegated. You'd be revered as a God on here for your prescience! Exciting! Fingers crossed. So you don't agree with anything in what i say,i'm sure i will cope. My previous post has legitamate and valid points,get over it. So unfortunate so many are slightly blinkered and set in there ways. Every other opinion is wrong if it does not conform. That is the reason this forum is below par. Edited 3 July, 2011 by saint lard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 July, 2011 Share Posted 3 July, 2011 Some people so desperately need saints to fail to massage their own battered egos it's scary. think that sums it up. THere is no rationale to criticise the best performing side in the country for the last 6 months - apart from not fitting in with personal agendas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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