Bin collections

[SO16_Saint]

Anyone got any ideas when the next bin collections are taking place in southampton? It's getting beyond a joke now.

[LGTL]

When the government stop taking the **** out of them.

 

A Tory coalition one year in;

 

[SO16_Saint]

When the government stop taking the **** out of them.

 

A Tory coalition one year in;

 

 

I didnt get a choice of a 5% pay cut in my job, I just got made redundant when the company went bust.

 

That's taking the ****.

 

I just want my bins collected

[Thedelldays]

my bin men are ****s...

 

literally throw the wheely bins back to somewhere near where they got them from.....no effort what so ever and a complete lack of respect for my property

[JackFrost]

The council where i work are ridiculous. They collect fortnightly on Mondays and never bother to turn up any day of the week whenever there is a bank holiday on the monday.

 

When the snow came down at the beginning of the year they took the **** completely. They didn't empty the bins from Christmas up til the end of February

[Dimond Geezer]

I believe they are working Monday & Tuesday, back on strike on Wednesday. They are supposed to be carrying on from where they left of 2 weeks or so ago, but on a work to rule. This basically means slowly & not taking the rubbish that isn't actually in a bin. Best to just leave them out until Wed mornimg, if they collect them, all well & good. My blue bin was collected on Friday, so I guess the green one will go tomorrow.

[dickyhale]

http://www.southampton.gov.uk/s-environment/householdwaste/default.aspx

[Lets B Avenue]

I believe they are working Monday & Tuesday, back on strike on Wednesday. They are supposed to be carrying on from where they left of 2 weeks or so ago, but on a work to rule. This basically means slowly & not taking the rubbish that isn't actually in a bin. Best to just leave them out until Wed mornimg, if they collect them, all well & good. My blue bin was collected on Friday, so I guess the green one will go tomorrow.

 

I wouldnt put any money on that. 6 weeks and counting in Lodge Rd. Just a shame that the week they went back, after a bank holiday, the Friday collection was due on a Saturday and never occurred. But that was a month ago. Visitors to our fair city must be well impressed as they swerve to avoid the foxes and rats that are dining well round here.

[Rorski]

http://www.southampton.gov.uk/news-events/latest-news/uniontalks.aspx

[hamster]

The 4 R's

Re-use

Reduce

Re-cycle

Revolt

[CB Saint]

Pile up all the rubbish outside the bin men's houses- they won't work to rule then.

[Joesaint]

TBH I think the bin men are stupid, just hope they are not being paid.

 

Chance to keep you job with lower pay, bet there are lots of people in the private sector who wish they had that option.

[Block 18]

TBH I think the bin men are stupid, just hope they are not being paid.

 

Chance to keep you job with lower pay, bet there are lots of people in the private sector who wish they had that option.

 

 

I believe that they receive strike pay, paid for by the unions

[landford.saint]

No strike where I am (Wiltshire). Don't hear much about your binmen strike at all here. Is it really that bad? As bad as the days of Edward Heath yet?

[Scummer]

Sounds like this is one thing that Portsmouth is quite good at. I guess they are used to dealing with rubbish....

 

We get a weekly rubbish collection, and they work bank holidays so you never have the day shifted.

 

We don't have wheely bins for our rubbish (do for recycling). Maybe the money they save by making people buy their own bins enables them to provide a decent service.

[hamster]

The 4 R's

Re-use

Reduce

Re-cycle

Revolt

[Toomer]

If they carry on much longer I am considering with holding payment of my council tax as a good number of other people are.

[egg]

They're a disgrace. Many of us in the real world, ie not the public services, have been clinging onto jobs for the last few years and pay cuts have been a reality for many.

 

Anyone with any sense can see that the country could not carry on as it was. Previous pay deals and pension schemes are no longer sustainable.

 

Holding people to ransom is not going to make money available to meet demands.

[Toomer]

My wife retired in December of last year after the best part of thirty years working for the council, the job she did was front line dealing with the public in a local housing office the abuse she used to get at times was way out of order she had been swarn at and even had threats of violence just because some scrote would rather spend his/her money on drink and fags rather than pay their rent. Is she glad to be out of it, yes she is and she did get a good pension she paid in for it.

[ecuk268]

I see that Royston had some senior managers manning the Itchen Bridge toll booths.

 

Perhaps he should put a few on the bins - probably be the best day's work they'd ever done.

 

Strange that they can find £15m for the Sea Museum (Hannides Folly) and 800k to refurbish Oxford St, but they can't look after their own staff.

Edited 27 June, 2011 by ecuk268

[Essruu]

We had one regular waste collection 3+ weeks ago. That bin and the recycling bin are now full with lids closed. There is one bin in our cul-de-sac that has a lid that won't close because of one bag too many in it. There are no bin bags or other rubbish piled up alongside any bins. It is quite clear that many households don't give their waste any though whatsoever except to moan about how much there is not being collected. I travel to every part of the city in my job and it is clear that the biggest problems (and therefore the biggest moaners) are on the council estates, social housing and multi-occupancy areas: the kind of homes that do not cook from scratch with fresh vegetables and ingredients, but instead consume tinned, over-packaged, boxed/frozen foods and take-aways; Then they don't separate their recyclable waste, crush boxes, plastic bottles and packaging or take glass to the bottle banks.

 

The problem is that too many people are lazy slobs when it comes to cooking and waste disposal.

[GenevaSaint]

I see that Royston had some senior managers manning the Itchen Bridge toll booths.

Perhaps he should put a few on the bins - probably be the best day's work they'd ever done.

 

I agree with the first part of your post but in regards to looking after their staff, I believe they're trying to.

 

We need to cut, the binmen are being asked to take a cut across the board of x quid per week or have compulsory redundancies. What "union of men" would rather have the latter, because ultimately that will be the end game. Surely any union would spread the pain rather than making some of their members lose their jobs?

 

It would seem that individualism overcomes the collective here. I can only see one outcome to this and the striking staff will not win imho.

[SO16_Saint]

We had one regular waste collection 3+ weeks ago. That bin and the recycling bin are now full with lids closed. There is one bin in our cul-de-sac that has a lid that won't close because of one bag too many in it. There are no bin bags or other rubbish piled up alongside any bins. It is quite clear that many households don't give their waste any though whatsoever except to moan about how much there is not being collected. I travel to every part of the city in my job and it is clear that the biggest problems (and therefore the biggest moaners) are on the council estates, social housing and multi-occupancy areas: the kind of homes that do not cook from scratch with fresh vegetables and ingredients, but instead consume tinned, over-packaged, boxed/frozen foods and take-aways; Then they don't separate their recyclable waste, crush boxes, plastic bottles and packaging or take glass to the bottle banks.

 

The problem is that too many people are lazy slobs when it comes to cooking and waste disposal.

 

I dont completely disagree with you, but it's not our (the paying public's) fault that the bins haven't been collected for circa 5 weeks, and it's not our place to be so high and mighty about what people eat and how much packaging is used.

 

You would be well within your right to expect your rubbish - no matter what type - to be collected weekly / bi-weekly, without the worry that rats / foxes etc etc will be rummaging through it.

[Dimond Geezer]

The problem is that too many people are lazy slobs when it comes to cooking and waste disposal.

 

That is a valid point. I've flattened all the recycling down, removed & crushed the tins & given them to a family friend who takes them to Tescos, where he gets loyality points on his club card. The newspapers were taken to the tip in Michelmersh (on my way to work). My recycling bin was emptied on Friday, so I can start afresh with it making sure everthing is flattened.

 

As for the main waste bin, it's full, but the lid will close, everthing is bagged & squashed. If it's not emptied today I shall be taking that to Michelmersh too.

[Liquidshokk]

Some serious fly'age around our communial bins now and the fox has been about... madness.. however, If anything it proves that the world still goes round without the bin men so sack the lot of the ungrateful bastards....

[Wade Garrett]

I believe they are working Monday & Tuesday, back on strike on Wednesday. They are supposed to be carrying on from where they left of 2 weeks or so ago, but on a work to rule. This basically means slowly & not taking the rubbish that isn't actually in a bin. Best to just leave them out until Wed mornimg, if they collect them, all well & good. My blue bin was collected on Friday, so I guess the green one will go tomorrow.

 

I had my bins emptied last week for the first time in 4 or 5 weeks. The bin men picked up any bag lying around, so they are conscientious.

 

I have every sympathy with them. They have had a pay freeze for a couple of years, and are now being asked to take a 5% cut in pay, and pay an extra 3% of their wages into their pensions. I think they are also being asked to take subsequent pay freezes as well.

 

At the same time the council can find money to resurface my road, resurface 40 miles of pavements in the City, spend £15million on a Titanic museum, hoard valuable works of art that nobody can see, spend £800k on Oxford Street (no doubt helping a few Tory pals) and councillors continue to receive over the top expenses (my local councillor gloated this one to me when I asked him to close a cutway at the back of my garden). We are also paying a chief executive more money than the Prime Minister, and some senior managers are earning in excess of £100k.

[Thedelldays]

I had my bins emptied last week for the first time in 4 or 5 weeks. The bin men picked up any bag lying around, so they are conscientious.

 

I have every sympathy with them. They have had a pay freeze for a couple of years, and are now being asked to take a 5% cut in pay, and pay an extra 3% of their wages into their pensions. I think they are also being asked to take subsequent pay freezes as well.

 

At the same time the council can find money to resurface my road, resurface 40 miles of pavements in the City, spend £15million on a Titanic museum, hoard valuable works of art that nobody can see, spend £800k on Oxford Street (no doubt helping a few Tory pals) and councillors continue to receive over the top expenses (my local councillor gloated this one to me when I asked him to close a cutway at the back of my garden). We are also paying a chief executive more money than the Prime Minister, and some senior managers are earning in excess of £100k.

 

yet no mention of the previous lot in your little rant...

[ecuk268]

yet no mention of the previous lot in your little rant...

 

The previous Lib Dems were just as bad. Every week in the Echo there seemed to be ads for quite highly paid managerial jobs the descriptions of which made little sense to me (perhaps I'm thick).

 

Southampton City Council seem to focus on grandiose projects (few of which come to fruition) rather than providing good basic services.

[Wes Tender]

When the government stop taking the **** out of them.

 

A Tory coalition one year in;

 

 

You are either quite young, or have a very selective memory. If the former, educate yourself with a little history lesson regarding how Labour went about it in 1978/9

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_Discontent

 

This is one Council with the bin men having a bit of a strop because of economic measures being forced onto the Council through the incompetance of the last Labout Government. Back then, the industrial action was nationwide and covered much more than the binmen.

[mightysaints]

Pompeys bins i beleive were out sourced, yet again the private sector working well with no problems. Time some southampton services were out sourced

[ecuk268]

Pompeys bins i beleive were out sourced, yet again the private sector working well with no problems. Time some southampton services were out sourced

 

Like Southern Cross Care Homes??

[Toomer]

Pompeys bins i beleive were out sourced, yet again the private sector working well with no problems. Time some southampton services

were out sourced

 

There are already a number of council departments out sourced as my daughter works for one of them.

[solentstars]

I had my bins emptied last week for the first time in 4 or 5 weeks. The bin men picked up any bag lying around, so they are conscientious.

 

I have every sympathy with them. They have had a pay freeze for a couple of years, and are now being asked to take a 5% cut in pay, and pay an extra 3% of their wages into their pensions. I think they are also being asked to take subsequent pay freezes as well.

 

At the same time the council can find money to resurface my road, resurface 40 miles of pavements in the City, spend £15million on a Titanic museum, hoard valuable works of art that nobody can see, spend £800k on Oxford Street (no doubt helping a few Tory pals) and councillors continue to receive over the top expenses (my local councillor gloated this one to me when I asked him to close a cutway at the back of my garden). We are also paying a chief executive more money than the Prime Minister, and some senior managers are earning in excess of £100k.

good post the binmen deseve their money rather than the pen pushers and spin docters who work for the council.

its funny how people want us all to go back to 1930,s type mentality on wages and lucky to have a job and we should all be looking to drive down wages to the lowest levels we can.

i got of my backside and drove my waste and neighbours rubbish to the chapel dump .

so if you have a car or van take your rubbish to a local refuse centre which collects the bin waste.

[Minty]

Irrespective of the opinions on the strike itself and the reasons behind it, Essruu's point above is spot on. Our street has not one bag of rubbish visible. Yes, some bins are full, but most people either don't fill their bins that quickly because they don't need to, or recycle a lot themselves, or have simply taken some of their rubbish directly to the tip. We can't do anything about the strike itself, but we can do plenty about how the rubbish piles up (or not) in our own areas.

 

For the sake of one or two trips to the tip, and a bit of thought and care for the area and our neighbours, we have a clean street with virtually no evidence of a bin-man strike. The one thing this strike has highlighted for me is that the thought of taking some personal responsibility is clearly too much for some people to handle... too many people in this world would simply be unable to cope with any major problem if we encountered one. I wonder how some people clean their own arses.

[solentstars]

Irrespective of the opinions on the strike itself and the reasons behind it, Essruu's point above is spot on. Our street has not one bag of rubbish visible. Yes, some bins are full, but most people either don't fill their bins that quickly because they don't need to, or recycle a lot themselves, or have simply taken some of their rubbish directly to the tip. We can't do anything about the strike itself, but we can do plenty about how the rubbish piles up (or not) in our own areas.

 

For the sake of one or two trips to the tip, and a bit of thought and care for the area and our neighbours, we have a clean street with virtually no evidence of a bin-man strike. The one thing this strike has highlighted for me is that the thought of taking some personal responsibility is clearly too much for some people to handle... too many people in this world would simply be unable to cope with any major problem if we encountered one. I wonder how some people clean their own arses.

good post and summary we seem to have to many of me me ,i want generation encouraged big time in the1980,s .

[Andy_Porter]

Irrespective of the opinions on the strike itself and the reasons behind it, Essruu's point above is spot on. Our street has not one bag of rubbish visible. Yes, some bins are full, but most people either don't fill their bins that quickly because they don't need to, or recycle a lot themselves, or have simply taken some of their rubbish directly to the tip. We can't do anything about the strike itself, but we can do plenty about how the rubbish piles up (or not) in our own areas.

 

For the sake of one or two trips to the tip, and a bit of thought and care for the area and our neighbours, we have a clean street with virtually no evidence of a bin-man strike. The one thing this strike has highlighted for me is that the thought of taking some personal responsibility is clearly too much for some people to handle... too many people in this world would simply be unable to cope with any major problem if we encountered one. I wonder how some people clean their own arses.

 

Taking rubbish to the tip is far easier said then done. I can't take it to the tip because of my only mode of transport is a van and my other housemates don't drive. We haven't had our bins collected for over five weeks now. It's becoming a joke.

 

I don't care about the politics of it all - I pay my council tax every month and expect these things to be sorted. Why hasn't it been outsourced already? that would shut the binmen up very quickly.

[Smirking_Saint]

Irrespective of the opinions on the strike itself and the reasons behind it, Essruu's point above is spot on. Our street has not one bag of rubbish visible. Yes, some bins are full, but most people either don't fill their bins that quickly because they don't need to, or recycle a lot themselves, or have simply taken some of their rubbish directly to the tip. We can't do anything about the strike itself, but we can do plenty about how the rubbish piles up (or not) in our own areas.

 

For the sake of one or two trips to the tip, and a bit of thought and care for the area and our neighbours, we have a clean street with virtually no evidence of a bin-man strike. The one thing this strike has highlighted for me is that the thought of taking some personal responsibility is clearly too much for some people to handle... too many people in this world would simply be unable to cope with any major problem if we encountered one. I wonder how some people clean their own arses.

 

Spot on.

 

Also people who couldn't give a f*ck for their fellow man, I do hope they themselves are not found to be in a position of pay cut or no job as that really would be a horrible place to be in. If the rubbish is piling up bad enough to really put your life in a mix get up of your ars* and do something about it. If not and you have yet to take trips to the tip then surely its not worth moaning about it, especially when we are talking about people potentially losing their jobs.

 

That said, if the binmen really have a choice out of pay cuts or redundencies I don't think they have made the right stand.

[Andy_Porter]

Most levelled headed people are upset with the council for not getting sub contractors in, not with the bin men.

[mack rill]

Pompeys bins i beleive were out sourced, yet again the private sector working well with no problems. Time some southampton services were out sourced

Not only are pompey bins emptied every week they don't have the luxury of pussy footing a closed lid nice and hygienic wheely bin to a hydraulic hoist, its all hand-Dorolice. Bags which have been left in the garden till the day before collection being sprayed by all the Tommers in the block. Then as soon as thy are put out for collection become the p**in post for the city's dog population, As most of the bags are cheep soooooper market specials the contents manège to fight there way out and are soon covered in wriggling rice! Bins are emptied in all weathers Blistering sunshine, or fekin monsoon, The only time its not collected is in heavy snow and ice where it is dangerous to have have dust carts down very narrow streets. But they do catch up within a few days, Dustman's average wage hear is £17000, and 35 quid, BEFORE STOPPAGES,,,,,,,,The golden carrot is, Task n finish, If the Southampton crews are on the same monies as ours the its the bread line. If your road is now stinking find out wear your lord mayor and concilers live, post it through there letter box, simples,

[gary r]

sack the ****ing lot of them , i have not had a pay rise in 8 yrs , just thankful i have a job

[Jonnyboy]

Are they coming through bitterne park tomorrow?

[bpsaint]

Are they coming through bitterne park tomorrow?

 

Saw them in Thorold Road this morning as I left Tesco, they didn't bother with Dimond Hill though, bastewards.

[Dimond Geezer]

Are they coming through bitterne park tomorrow?

 

Don't think so, back on strike tomorrow I believe.

 

Saw them in Thorold Road this morning as I left Tesco, they didn't bother with Dimond Hill though, bastewards.

 

They've done Appleton, but not Hillside or Dimond (where I Live). For those that don't know, you can only access Appleton from either Dimond of Hillside. One would assume that a bin man lives somewhere in Appleton Rd.

[Wade Garrett]

yet no mention of the previous lot in your little rant...

 

It wasn't a little rant you patronising c*nt.

[View From The Top]

I'm very surprised that the bins haven't been outsourced. Must be one of the few places in the UK.

[hamster]

One thread highlighting the struggling fortunes of LOCAL independant traders and this one (in the main) supporting a cut in wages for those supporting their LOCAL economy!

 

Take away the political catfighting and surely people can see the loophole with these proposals taking into consideration that they are supposed to bolster the economy?

[Dimond Geezer]

One thread highlighting the struggling fortunes of LOCAL independant traders and this one (in the main) supporting a cut in wages for those supporting their LOCAL economy!

 

Take away the political catfighting and surely people can see the loophole with these proposals taking into consideration that they are supposed to bolster the economy?

 

You're right, and I support the low paid bin men. However, I don't support the highly paid teachers.

[holepuncture]

You're right, and I support the low paid bin men. However, I don't support the highly paid teachers.

 

Heres my tip to the bin men which I am doing this year, and if I make it through to the next (fragile private sector industry):

 

Dont take any holiday, save it as 'insurance'... so that when this silly crusdae fails you have a months salary/holiday pay to fall back on, as you are entitled to this money if you are dismissed, made redundant or your company goes into voluntary administration.

 

This is my strategy, in case the company I work for collapses, to give me some breathing space.

 

I guess if you are currently a striking bin man, your prosects must be pretty grim and you wouldnt stand a chance against the current competition and could be facing years on the 'rock and roll'.

 

But still, good luck with the campaign of pricing yourself out of the job!

[gary r]

I'm very surprised that the bins haven't been outsourced. Must be one of the few places in the UK.

 

if the council out sourced they would be breaking the law

[thefunkygibbons]

Could be worse

 

Could be Naples