Sharp, Maynard, CMS - who would be best for saints?

[Smirking_Saint]

I have never come across such a dull and pointless forum poster in my entire life.

 

I find that hard to believe

[saintscottofthenortham]

Did you go to many games over the last two years with Saints in the 3rd tier?

 

Do you not think the managers of Dagenham & Redbridge, Stockport, Walsall, Tranmere, Wycombe, Torquay, Northampton, Yeovil, Southend, Cheltenham, Shrewsbury, Eastleigh, Carlisle, Oldham, Hartlepool, Leyton Orient, Brentford etc etc would bite your arm off to have a striker like David McGoldrick in their sides (if they could afford him)?

 

Yawn.

 

Do Tesco's sell bottled personality yet?

[Professor]

Just a reminder that before discussion turned to whether Nigel Adkins was the perfect manager this thread was about choosing which striker of 3 suggested targets would be best for Saints. The point has simply been made that we may not have any choice if all three choose offers from other clubs with high profile managers who are more active in the transfer market. Players do not only want money, they want money plus trophies. If two NpC clubs are offering the money but one looks more ambitious and more likely to achieve promotion, thats where the player will go.

[Thedelldays]

Just a reminder that before discussion turned to whether Nigel Adkins was the perfect manager this thread was about choosing which striker of 3 suggested targets would be best for Saints. The point has simply been made that we may not have any choice if all three choose offers from other clubs with high profile managers who are more active in the transfer market. Players do not only want money, they want money plus trophies. If two NpC clubs are offering the money but one looks more ambitious and more likely to achieve promotion, thats where the player will go.

 

dont know why you are getting a little upset about this...we have only JUT got promotion to from division 3..

of course a few clubs are going to be better than us

[OldNick]

CMS for me as I think he has has pace intelligence and runs his heart out for the team.The defences never can relax. The other 2 seem to me to be goal poachers.

If RL can set up a few flicks and passes CMS could be very effective.

[Professor]

dont know why you are getting a little upset about this...we have only JUT got promotion to from division 3..

of course a few clubs are going to be better than us

Dear Mr Delldays,

Thank you for your concern. As a Saints fan for over 50 years I am keen to see my club back in the top level and at the moment I don't see any evidence of what is being done to achieve this. It may, of course, be happening and we are just not aware. Either way, this is not 'upsetting' but it is worthy of comment and debate.

 

There may be a school of thought that having just got to NpC you need to take it slowly, but the risk is that many years could pass while others are trying harder. Even when a club tries hard, promotion is far from guaranteed. Norwich did not sit back and take a breather, instead thay appointed an ambitious manager and signed higher quality players. As it happened, for them it worked, but for Leeds who have tried hard since they got promoted, it hasn't worked yet. If, unlike Norwich and Leeds, SFC is sitting back to 'consolidate' they will not attract the Maynards and Mackail-Smiths, who will want a winning club.

 

Perhaps in the next week, we we see evidence of Saint's ambitions, but if not we may have to conclude that the target for 2011/12 is just to stay in the NpC, for which we probably don't need any new strikers at all.

[Thedelldays]

you are getting upset...just a little...

you keep going on about the manager..should the club sack adkins and get in say, david o'leary...bigger name..?

you are seeing a NPC that is quite easily tougher than last season..with more teams spending money of figthting it out for players...and the pool of good NPC realistic players is smaller than the number of clubs wanting them...hence why £3m is being quoted for a player who scored less than McGoldrick last time he was in the NPC and who only has 1 year left on his contract..

 

if we dont sign anyone then so be it......but to suggest we are not trying is silly (not saying you are but some are)...

signing players as SFC in division 3 is easy...now we have brum, west hame, forest, leicester all ahead of us in the queue...and rightly so at the min

[Fowllyd]

Dear Mr Delldays,

Thank you for your concern. As a Saints fan for over 50 years I am keen to see my club back in the top level and at the moment I don't see any evidence of what is being done to achieve this. It may, of course, be happening and we are just not aware. Either way, this is not 'upsetting' but it is worthy of comment and debate.

 

There may be a school of thought that having just got to NpC you need to take it slowly, but the risk is that many years could pass while others are trying harder. Even when a club tries hard, promotion is far from guaranteed. Norwich did not sit back and take a breather, instead they appointed an ambitious manager and signed higher quality players. As it happened, for them it worked, but for Leeds who have tried hard since they got promoted, it hasn't worked yet. If, unlike Norwich and Leeds, SFC is sitting back to 'consolidate' they will not attract the Maynards and Mackail-Smiths, who will want a winning club.

 

Perhaps in the next week, we we see evidence of Saint's ambitions, but if not we may have to conclude that the target for 2011/12 is just to stay in the NpC, for which we probably don't need any new strikers at all.

 

Norwich appointed Paul Lambert at the start of their first and only season in League One, following a 7-1 home thrashing by Colchester (managed at the time by a certain Paul Lambert). Prior to managing Colchester, Lambert had been in charge at Wycombe and Livingston. So, following promotion, Norwich stuck with the manager who'd got them there the previous season - a manager who was by no means a big name and was about to manage at Championship level for the first time in his career. No doubt he'll be attracting considerably more attention now he's got them into the Premier League.

 

I'd also take issue with your final paragraph, purely because any and all statements that I've ever seen from Cortese make it clear that his ambition for the club is a very long way above Championship level. I somehow don't think he'll be content with sitting back and consolidating. I wouldn't expect to see evidence of what's happening until new signings are announced on the official web site, so I really don't think you should read anything into any lack of it at present.

 

Oh, and Leeds have had just the one season back in the Championship; your post makes it sound as if they've been desperately seeking promotion for several. It may not be what you meant, but it read that way.

[Micky]

So, Sharp or Maynard then....

[Crazy Diamond]

Leicester have had a bid accepted by Peterborough for CMS. There's just no stopping them at the moment!

[Micky]

Leicester have had a bid accepted by Peterborough for CMS. There's just no stopping them at the moment!

 

Schmeichel, Danns and CMS - not bad business I suppose...!

[NickG]

lucky as CMS was trailing in 3rd place!

[Benali Saint]

Sharp is going to Ipswich

[hypochondriac]

Sharp is going to Ipswich

 

We best hurry up then. Rapidly running out of decent championship strikers with the qualities we need.

[JustMike]

i put £10 on Leicester to win the Championship last week, based on the players they are buying its looking better

[st alex]

We best hurry up then. Rapidly running out of decent championship strikers with the qualities we need.

 

Should really add Lukas Jutkiewicz to 3 strikers in the thread title. A bit younger than the others (22 yrs), so with a bit of potential. He's not hit 20 a season yet, but since he's still pretty young thats not really surprising. He's been Motherwell & Coventry's top scorer in the past 2 seasons, and he's a Saints fan. A few people on here will probably gone to school with him at Mountbatten. He should also be a bit cheaper than Sharp or Maynard and Coventry are in a dire fanancial situation. I think it would be a missed oportunity not to go for him.

 

Source

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11700_6998879,00.html

 

Last minute goal in the 6-6 game against Hibs for Motherwell.

[CWD]

Sharp all the way for me. Mainly because both Maynard and CMS are horrendously over-priced, and Sharp has the most consistent scoring record at Championship level.

[Badger]

Sharp all the way for me. Mainly because both Maynard and CMS are horrendously over-priced, and Sharp has the most consistent scoring record at Championship level.

 

I'm not sure what figures you have in mind here as the price for CMS has not been made public other than c£3m touted towards the end of the season.

 

If we are talking of £3m or upwards for Sharp then there may not be a lot in it as far as transfer fee is concerned although I expect Maynard will want a mega wage, disproportionate to his experience. Of the three I think Maynard offers the greatest potential to us although expect Bristol City will want £3.5-£4m.

[NickG]

up to £4m for our first choice then!

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2010070/Leicesters-4m-bid-Readings-Matt-Mills-accepted.html

[NickG]

even smaller price if Barnard does!

[NickG]

http://www.bcfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10327~2384491,00.html

[Avenue Saint]

Maynard please

[NickG]

Maynard please

 

does seem to be the popular choice!

[shurlock]

Now that CMS is out of the equation and the competition/complications around Maynard/Sharp, surprised Lita isn't being mentioned more. Bags of power and pace. Boro want £3m for him -well within our range if Swansea don't cough up the cash.

Edited 4 July, 2011 by shurlock

[NickG]

looking through this, at least it proves that people are not just saying we didn't want CMS after we lost out - he did seem to be the 3rd choice with most