Smirking_Saint Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 Maynard and Sharp would be the two of the three I would go for TBH, both very much proven in the league, Sharp has what appears to be a keen eye for goal and when he has been given the oppurtunity then he seems to score goals. Maynard is quick, strong and technically a good player, quite young aswell. He again would be a fantastic signing. CMS, well, I don't see the massive clamour for him, he is a hardworker, but hardly proven outside of the lower levels (MLG's pedantry aside). For me we have a player very much like him in Barnard, in the respect that he is a hard worker and scores goals. IMO he is very much overpriced. That said, we currently have Guly, Lambert and Barnard in a striking sense. I would personally like to see a quicker striker up there to mix things up. Nathan Tyson would have been superb, Maynard even better. In the other thread someone said about andy johnson, if available and looking to move down a league he would be a top signing aswell. Oh and Avenue, if you don't get the sarcasm breaking up the all too often monotonous OTT ramblings I wouldn't bother.
Dalek2003 Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 Well, July is fast approaching and we are going to make a move we will probably have to in the next two weeks. Our intent and ambitions will surely be revealed. TBH I am nervous... certainly not building up my hopes.
Turkish Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 Maynard and Sharp would be the two of the three I would go for TBH, both very much proven in the league, Sharp has what appears to be a keen eye for goal and when he has been given the oppurtunity then he seems to score goals. Maynard is quick, strong and technically a good player, quite young aswell. He again would be a fantastic signing. CMS, well, I don't see the massive clamour for him, he is a hardworker, but hardly proven outside of the lower levels (MLG's pedantry aside). For me we have a player very much like him in Barnard, in the respect that he is a hard worker and scores goals. IMO he is very much overpriced. That said, we currently have Guly, Lambert and Barnard in a striking sense. I would personally like to see a quicker striker up there to mix things up. Nathan Tyson would have been superb, Maynard even better. In the other thread someone said about andy johnson, if available and looking to move down a league he would be a top signing aswell. Oh and Avenue, if you don't get the sarcasm breaking up the all too often monotonous OTT ramblings I wouldn't bother. I'd agree with you on your assessment there bessie. Dont forget Connolly as well, if he can stay fit would be a good squad player. We definitely need a bit of pace up front and feel we missed a trick with Tyson.
Crazy Diamond Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 I've just spoken to someone who works a lot with Peterborough, I asked him about CMS' likely destination. "Word up here is West Ham is a done deal"
Smirking_Saint Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 I'd agree with you on your assessment there bessie. Dont forget Connolly as well, if he can stay fit would be a good squad player. We definitely need a bit of pace up front and feel we missed a trick with Tyson. True I wonder if Tyson had already had his mind made up, he knew his contract was up and the transfer was sorted very quickly. Connolly is ok but about 78 years old, I can't see lambert having a great season TBH and Barnard will be hit or miss. Reckon Guly may do well though. No worries though, I fully expect to have Torres and Ronaldo up front next year.
Turkish Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 True I wonder if Tyson had already had his mind made up, he knew his contract was up and the transfer was sorted very quickly. Connolly is ok but about 78 years old, I can't see lambert having a great season TBH and Barnard will be hit or miss. Reckon Guly may do well though. No worries though, I fully expect to have Torres and Ronaldo up front next year. Torres has lost it, give me Villa everday of the week.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 I know, my point was that he isn't untested at that level (as suggested in the post I quoted). I didn't comment if he was a success or not. In any case 10 goals for a relegated team isn't that bad tbf. McGoldrick scored more.
Matthew Le God Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 (edited) McGoldrick scored more. Only by two goals in 2008/09 (having played more games). And McGoldrick has shown himself to be capable of playing for a top six Championship side last season. Edited 26 June, 2011 by Matthew Le God
NickG Posted 26 June, 2011 Author Posted 26 June, 2011 It is not surprising with our squad in League 1 Adkin's rating is good with our squad it should have been good. As should Hudderfields, Peterborough's and Brighton's. Adkins was excellent though - better than those others.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 Torres has lost it, give me Villa everday of the week. Villa was always the better player.
bender Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 I dont reckon we should sign CMS. He must be in his 50's seeing as he appeared in a sitcom in the 80's
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 Only by two goals in 2008/09. And McGoldrick has shown himself to be capable of playing for a top six Championship side last season. And? Doesn't make him any good. Would you pay 3.5m for him. By the way, the Forest fans think he's gash.
Crazy Diamond Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 I tried so hard to forget about David McGoldrick. So, so hard. One of the worst players I've ever seen. And? Doesn't make him any good. Would you pay 3.5m for him. By the way, the Forest fans think he's gash. So they should. He is. Only by two goals in 2008/09 (having played more games). And McGoldrick has shown himself to be capable of playing for a top six Championship side last season. If I played in a top six Championship team last season, it wouldn't make me a good player.
Turkish Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 I tried so hard to forget about David McGoldrick. So, so hard. One of the worst players I've ever seen. It wasn't so much his play that annoyed me, but the way he walked off the pitch when substituted, kind of strutted off full of attitude. Always felt a bit sorry for him as a player, must be tough leading the line on your own in a sh*t team run by clueless jokers.
Badger Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 It wasn't so much his play that annoyed me, but the way he walked off the pitch when substituted, kind of strutted off full of attitude. Always felt a bit sorry for him as a player, must be tough leading the line on your own in a sh*t team run by clueless jokers. especially when coming to terms with his own limited ability and the realisation that he himself was crap. Yes, tough.
SuperMikey Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 McGoldrick was sh!t. Maynard would be the best signing of the 3.
Matthew Le God Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 David McGoldrick. One of the worst players I've ever seen. I find that hard to believe.
NickG Posted 26 June, 2011 Author Posted 26 June, 2011 Maynard seems to be clear, with Sharp bit ahead of CMS. Sorted thanks!
Matthew Le God Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 (edited) Try harder. Try harder? You were the one that said McGoldrick was one of the worst players you had ever seen. That is quite a statement, he is a professional footballer that although not great, has been a regular in a Championship side. Surely you have seen far worse? Edited 26 June, 2011 by Matthew Le God
hypochondriac Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 Try harder? You were the one that said McGoldrick was one of the worst players you had ever seen. That is quite a statement, he is a professional footballer that although not great, has been a regular in a Championship side. Surely you have seen far worse? How the f*ck do you know who he has and hasn't seen?
Crazy Diamond Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 Try harder? You were the one that said McGoldrick was one of the worst players you had ever seen. That is quite a statement, he is a professional footballer that although not great, has been a regular in a Championship side. Surely you have seen far worse? Struggling to think of any. I mean, there was my mate Ali at secondary school. Kept skying it over the fence. But that's another story.
Matthew Le God Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 How the f*ck do you know who he has and hasn't seen? - Saints have been in League One for the last two seasons. - Saints have been playing non league teams in friendlies for his entire life. - Saints have been playing lower league teams in cup competitions for his entire life. Unless he has seen very little football (only at Premier League level) and very little of Saints, he would have seen many players worse than McGoldrick. Even in the last two seasons, McGoldrick would be a regular for pretty much every team Saints have played against in League One.
S-Clarke Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 I have never come across such a dull and pointless forum poster in my entire life.
Matthew Le God Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 I have never come across such a dull and pointless forum poster in my entire life. You say that as if you think making statements like that will change me. It won't, surely you have worked that out by now, given the numerous times you have done so. I wasn't the one making ridiculous statements like "McGoldrick is one of the worst players I've ever seen". Which is clearly nonsense, yet you make comments to me rather than him.
Crazy Diamond Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 Try harder? You were the one that said McGoldrick was one of the worst players you had ever seen. That is quite a statement, he is a professional footballer that although not great, has been a regular in a Championship side. Surely you have seen far worse? For someone obsessed with detail, you've overlooked the possibility that I've seen a lot of bad players in my time. After all, I said ONE of the worst players I've ever seen. He could be one of a large number. You'd be wrong anyway. This post sums it up for me really. McGoldrick was sh!t And while I'm here... I have never come across such a dull and pointless forum poster in my entire life. I find that hard to believe. You say that as if you think making statements like that will change me. It won't, surely you have worked that out by now, given the numerous times you have done so. I wasn't the one making ridiculous statements like "McGoldrick is one of the worst players I've ever seen". Which is clearly nonsense, yet you make comments to me rather than him. You having a different opinion to me does not make mine nonsense. A lot of people find you unbearable (I'm starting to agree), but you disagree. Does that make your opinion nonsense? Just to clarify: McGoldrick was sh!t
Leslie Charteris Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 1) Maynard 2) Sharp 3) CMS (In that order) I can't argue against this - my first thought was that Maynard would add the most to our squad.
maysie Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 For someone obsessed with detail, you've overlooked the possibility that I've seen a lot of bad players in my time. After all, I said ONE of the worst players I've ever seen. He could be one of a large number. You'd be wrong anyway. This post sums it up for me really. And while I'm here... I find that hard to believe. You having a different opinion to me does not make mine nonsense. A lot of people find you unbearable (I'm starting to agree), but you disagree. Does that make your opinion nonsense? Just to clarify: Ha ha well said that man
Matthew Le God Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 (edited) You'd be wrong anyway. This post sums it up for me really. Just to clarify: SuperMikey said he was "****", he didn't say in reference to what he was "****". Most likely it was a comparison with other strikers in the Championship in the 2008/09 season, but we don't know as he didn't say. You however said "one of the worst player I have ever seen". There is a significant difference between the two statements. Edited 26 June, 2011 by Matthew Le God
Crazy Diamond Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 SuperMikey said he was "****", he didn't say in reference to what he was "****". Most likely it was a comparison with other strikers in the Championship in the 2008/09 season, but we don't know as he didn't say. You however said "one of the worst player I have ever seen". There is a significant difference between the two statements. Nice editing there.
Matthew Le God Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 Nice editing there. All I did was add the second sentence, nothing was removed.
SuperMikey Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 SuperMikey said he was "****", he didn't say in reference to what he was "****". Most likely it was a comparison with other strikers in the Championship in the 2008/09 season, but we don't know as he didn't say. You however said "one of the worst player I have ever seen". There is a significant difference between the two statements. He was a sh!t player in a sh!t team. He may have worked well alongside a player like Lambert, but in that season he was f*cking awful. Was so shocked when we got £1m for him from Forest!
Matthew Le God Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 (edited) He was a sh!t player in a sh!t team. He may have worked well alongside a player like Lambert, but in that season he was f*cking awful. Was so shocked when we got £1m for him from Forest! Don't get me wrong, I don't think he was that great either. But if you offered him to pretty much every side Saints have played in the last two seasons in League One, he would be their number one striker. Thus to call him "one of the worst players I have seen" is a little odd. Unless of course you didn't watch Saints in the last two seasons and didn't see the standard of many League One strikers. Edited 26 June, 2011 by Matthew Le God
Crazy Diamond Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 (edited) SuperMikey said he was "****", he didn't say in reference to what he was "****". Most likely it was a comparison with other strikers in the Championship in the 2008/09 season, but we don't know as he didn't say. You however said "one of the worst player I have ever seen". There is a significant difference between the two statements. Point out to me where I said there wasn't. No wait, don't bother. I've grown very tired of you. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he was that great either. But if you offered him to pretty much every side Saints have played in the last two seasons in League One, he would be their number one striker. Thus to call him "one of the worst players I have seen" is a little odd. Unless of course you didn't watch Saints in the last two seasons and didn't see the standard of many League One strikers. No it's not. Edited 26 June, 2011 by Crazy Diamond
SuperMikey Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 Don't get me wrong, I don't think he was that great either. But if you offered him to pretty much every side Saints have played in the last two seasons in League One and he would be their number one striker. Thus to call him "one of the worst players I have seen" is a little odd. Unless of course you didn't watch Saints in the last two seasons and didn't see the standard of many League One strikers. Maybe CrazyDiamond caught DMG on a poor run of form (which is pretty likely as he was shocking all season). If you offered the David McGoldrick of 3 seasons ago to our current team, I wouldn't pick him ahead of Lambert, Barnard or probably even Connolly (if he wasn't in the treatment room). Just a matter of opinion I guess.
Crazy Diamond Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 Maybe CrazyDiamond caught DMG on a poor run of form (which is pretty likely as he was shocking all season). If you offered the David McGoldrick of 3 seasons ago to our current team, I wouldn't pick him ahead of Lambert, Barnard or probably even Connolly (if he wasn't in the treatment room). Just a matter of opinion I guess. Don't waste your time. Apparently his opinion is the be all and end all. Opinions that differ are 'odd'.
Matthew Le God Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 (edited) No it's not. Did you go to many games over the last two years with Saints in the 3rd tier? Do you not think the managers of Dagenham & Redbridge, Stockport, Walsall, Tranmere, Wycombe, Torquay, Northampton, Yeovil, Southend, Cheltenham, Shrewsbury, Eastleigh, Carlisle, Oldham, Hartlepool, Leyton Orient, Brentford etc etc would bite your arm off to have a striker like David McGoldrick in their sides (if they could afford him)? Edited 26 June, 2011 by Matthew Le God
NickG Posted 26 June, 2011 Author Posted 26 June, 2011 so.. 1) Maynard 2) Sharp 3) CMS 4) rest of world 5) McGoldrick
egg Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 Did you go to many games over the last two years? Do you not think the managers of Dagenham & Redbridge, Stockport, Walsall, Tranmere, Wycombe, Torquay, Northampton, Yeovil, Southend, Cheltenham, Shrewsbury, Eastleigh, Carlisle, Oldham, Hartlepool, Leyton Orient, Brentford etc etc would bite your arm off to have a striker like David McGoldrick in their sides (if they could afford him)? Much as I find Mlg more irritating than a dose of the clap, he makes a fair point. Still not sure what it has to do with the thread though.
Matthew Le God Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 (edited) Mlg makes a fair point. Edited slightly because it looks good coming from you. Still not sure what it has to do with the thread though. It is a slight tangent, I'll give you that. But it shows how (some) Saints fans either have rose-tinted glases and ex-players are the best thing since sliced bread, or are the worst player they have ever seen. Little middle ground. Edited 26 June, 2011 by Matthew Le God
SuperMikey Posted 26 June, 2011 Posted 26 June, 2011 Of course those clubs would take DMG, but for me he wouldn't be good enough as a first-choice striker for our current squad (basically last season's squad). The Forest fans think he's absolute gash.
Crazy Diamond Posted 27 June, 2011 Posted 27 June, 2011 Edited slightly because it looks good coming from you. It is a slight tangent, I'll give you that. But it shows how (some) Saints fans either have rose-tinted glases and ex-players are the best thing since sliced bread, or are the worst player they have ever seen. Little middle ground. If you're going to start categorising people based upon what they say on this forum, then allow me to return the favour. There are some who believe that they MUST comment on everyone else's posts, believing their own opinion to be more valid and 100% correct. A wise man once said; 'No one likes a smart arse'. He was quite right. So to round up, David McGoldrick is one of the worst players I have ever seen and you are a trifling bore. Let that be the end of the matter, because quite frankly, you've taken up enough of my valuable time. I bid you all good night. Of course those clubs would take DMG, but for me he wouldn't be good enough as a first-choice striker for our current squad (basically last season's squad). The Forest fans think he's absolute gash. I prefer what you said before. He's just plain ****e.
saint lard Posted 27 June, 2011 Posted 27 June, 2011 It is not surprising with our squad in League 1 Adkin's rating is good This was excactly the point i was making.
saint lard Posted 27 June, 2011 Posted 27 June, 2011 but did better than well. he out performed every manager in the country. no doubt players will come if money is offered. This is so out of context it beggars belief. He did what was expected,no more no less.with a bloody superb squad for the division we were in. Don't get me started again on the quality of the majority of performances.
saint lard Posted 27 June, 2011 Posted 27 June, 2011 rubbish and you know it. It is my opinion,our opinions differ.We are entitled to them. You say he did 'excellent' in a previous post,i totally disagree. Much more of a level playing field this season,we had huge advantages over others last season. This will be the acid test,i hope the outcome is positive.
rooney Posted 27 June, 2011 Posted 27 June, 2011 Maynard would be a good signing. He has a bit of height, very pacey and scores goals. If we signed McGoldrick we would be going backwards. Tyson looked to have all the attributes a few years ago but to me, he seems to have stood still and I have not been impressed in the few times I have seen him. Likewise his manager as he did not start very often last season. I would go along with Super Saint's allocation.
NickG Posted 27 June, 2011 Author Posted 27 June, 2011 This is so out of context it beggars belief. He did what was expected,no more no less.with a bloody superb squad for the division we were in. Don't get me started again on the quality of the majority of performances. I don't remember you posting when he as appointed that you expected him to achieve this.. 20 wins and 2 draws and 2 defeats from all of the home games (including playing Man U), or saying that (with injuries to Barnard and Ox-C) he could get consistency, when under pressure to get promotion of 13 wins, 1 draw, 1 defeat in last 15. Absolute rubbish to say he only did as expected and you are trolling saying otherwise. Yes we started season as favorites -but we were adrift to good squads when he came in. He did outstandlingly well. No one in football looking at his performance would knock it like you do. Appreciate what he achieved for us. He did what you expected, no more...lol
saint lard Posted 27 June, 2011 Posted 27 June, 2011 I don't remember you posting when he as appointed that you expected him to achieve this.. 20 wins and 2 draws and 2 defeats from all of the home games (including playing Man U), or saying that (with injuries to Barnard and Ox-C) he could get consistency, when under pressure to get promotion of 13 wins, 1 draw, 1 defeat in last 15. Absolute rubbish to say he only did as expected and you are trolling saying otherwise. Yes we started season as favorites -but we were adrift to good squads when he came in. He did outstandlingly well. No one in football looking at his performance would knock it like you do. Appreciate what he achieved for us. He did what you expected, no more...lol I appreciate what he did,he got us promoted...albeit with a squad that should have gained promotion.Job done in my eyes. I expected us to be promoted at the start of the season....we crossed that line. He will have to get alot more out of this squad this season to compete with much stronger opposition. I don't agree with much of the post i have quoted. Anyway, this is a differing topic from the thread title.
slickmick Posted 27 June, 2011 Posted 27 June, 2011 Did you go to many games over the last two years with Saints in the 3rd tier? Do you not think the managers of Dagenham & Redbridge, Stockport, Walsall, Tranmere, Wycombe, Torquay, Northampton, Yeovil, Southend, Cheltenham, Shrewsbury, Eastleigh, Carlisle, Oldham, Hartlepool, Leyton Orient, Brentford etc etc would bite your arm off to have a striker like David McGoldrick in their sides (if they could afford him)? All sh1t teams, so yeh he would fit in well with that lot.
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